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March the 4th now, is it? I'd like to think you'll have something to showcase by then. Otherwise, stop clogging up these information rich threads with vaporware. It's not right for those that utilize this platform for real, flesh and bone projects, nor to those checking back here to track how said projects are developing.

There are instructions out there how to patch latest Flash to disable EOL restriction. I was the first to bring it up on MSFN. Some even opt to use Flash version that continued to be developed for Chinese market (only security fixes I guess) after it was EOL for the rest of the world, but I didn't follow that. In my most recent experience, NPAPI version for Mozilla-based browsers and other browsers implementing NPAPI was most performant, the worst was ActiveX in Internet Explorer, though for some reason it was much better in the pre-Chromium Edge, a bit better than NPAPI even. Of course, standalone version keeps it simple by not being tied to the web browser's plugin architecture.

I see nothing shocking regarding native Web Components as far as YouTube load speed is concerned, it's about as fast as with Firefox 42 user agent that gives polyfill. Trying out official Pale Moon 32.0.1b3, it's actually a bit slower, comparing 32-bit vs 64-bit though since official beta is only 64-bit. 64-bit Pale Moon was always slower on my PC. Not related to current developments, but I suspect we're still far away from decent scores on Speedometer 2.0.

Yes, Windows XP and 7 were great OSes in terms of design, features, functionality and customization.

I would upgrade to Vista x86.

Yes I know tnat, also for all people reading that should this thread have discord? Its quite big project and its hard to have everything there on msfn, also the live support will be great.

The osver.ini file isn't created automatically when you install Extended Kernel. It has to be created manually.

Any OS modification can be talked about but only if the instructions to create such modification are the primary method of doing this modification. Distribution of OS files or complete OS ISOs is not permitted, nor the promise of making them available to either the public or in private.

@legacyfan I think there is some misunderstanding going on. The present thread is perfectly fine, and you need not to apologize for your posts in it, you had a (real) technical problem and asked for help, which led to some related discussions on the methods used or usable. This is exactly the main scope of MSFN, to exchange ideas, knowledge, opinions mainly on (computer related) technical themes. jaclaz

Is fixed (for now...) in yt-dlp. Updated my build. [Edit] youtube-dl fixed as well.

@Antonino Online capture uses VSS, properly you broke that or optimized it away. Anyways there should be an error message.

It doesn't install.

At this point, I would like to say thanks for all your efforts in building XP- compatible versions of youtube-dl and yt-dlp. I use your builds for a longer time, and they are great. Hopefully, this permanent throttling issue can be fixed again. For that, I totally agree with @VistaLover. I hate Google for all these unnecessary changes.

Portions of my job used to be WFH (work from home) so I've always had the advantage of running corporate OSs. My Win7 was Win7 Enterprise and my Win10 is 2016 LTSB. I never really liked either compared to XP x64 so I would run them from within a VM whenever working from home. Win10 always felt much better then Win7 and I could never see myself reverting to 7. Even more so nowadays because as you mentioned, 10 should be much MUCH MUCH more future-proof - I will not run any "extended kernel" in 7 just to use a web browser and it's starting to look like that is the only "future" for Win7.

Windows XP Thru 7 Are Definitely The Best Versions Of Windows With Windows 10 As The 2nd Best Windows Version On My List

I do recall testing that version and enjoying it a lot. While 10 does have its annoyances, and keeping in mind what you and others have shared, I've migrated yet again, settling on what I think is the best compromise: LTSB 2016. This version of Win10 will still get extended support until October 2026, which isn't too bad...maybe I'll look again at LTSC 2019 and IoT 2021 when the time is right. I'm getting much better performance (actually, surprisingly close to 7), and less noticeable bugs, compared to later versions of 10. THIS is the version I would recommend to anyone who wants to use 10, without having to deal with some of the BS of later releases. It seems to be the best possible compromise (updates are only security/stability-based, no telemetry, and all the benefits of the 10 kernel). At this point I'm pretty much squared away, and plan to stay with 10 as my 'main' OS (though I'm not opposed to returning to XP/7 on a temporary basis, to test software that seems interesting--luckily, my PC has full driver support from Win2000 to Win10). If I were to sum it up, I'd say Windows XP was the greatest OS Microsoft ever made, Windows 7 is the last great OS from Microsoft, and Windows 10 (all versions up to/including 1709) was the last good Microsoft OS. Love it or hate it, it may be better to get used to 10, and for what it's worth it's definitely the most future-proof option. The most bleeding-edge motherboards on the market still have full support for 10. LTSB 2016, however you may obtain it, is a good way to get acquainted with 10 and have a good experience while using it, and even my old HP S5-1020 is doing just fine with it. LTSC 2019 definitely felt slower than 7 on this machine, but LTSB 2016 is actually pretty close to 7 in performance on the same hardware. So it should be snappy on old PCs.

And also, rule 1.a. This is not a warez site! Links/Requests to warez and/or illegal material (e.g., cracks, serials, etc.) will not be tolerated. Discussion of circumventing WGA/activation/timebombs/license restrictions, use of keygens, or any other illegal activity, including, but not limited to, requests for help where pirated software is being used or being discussed, will also not be tolerated. Offenders may be banned on first violation.

... It seems most evil Google have again patched this ; I now get: yt-dl -f 140-1 "p7FCgw_GlWc" => [youtube] p7FCgw_GlWc: Downloading webpage [youtube] Confirming age [youtube] p7FCgw_GlWc: Downloading API JSON [dashsegments] Total fragments: 1 [download] Destination: Kanye West - Famous-p7FCgw_GlWc.m4a [download] 7.7% of ~9.83MiB at 50.70KiB/s ETA 01:06 ERROR: Interrupted by user Terminate batch job (Y/N)? y ... Was fine earlier today, with a patched youtube-dl build of mine... yt-dlp is also affected now ... Had you been a fan of SNL's "Church Lady" in the mid-80s to 90s? Google are indeed "SATAN" (and are obviously keeping a keen eye on the yt-dlp/yt-dl repos) ...

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Ive been working on installing windows xp x64 on my desktop but any flashdrive tool ive used so far seems to not detect the harddrive during setup or just blue screens before it gets there it been getting really annoying and would be much appreciated if someone could help.me find a workaround or fix for this issue-legacyfan

I only started using Win10 seriously with version 1809, though I ended up with 20H2 on home desktop, mostly 'cause I was curious about 1909, then installed it, then later I got curious again about 20H2, now I'm just holding position here. Besides MS continuing to make questionable changes that are either difficult or impossible to undo, just overall less time that I'm willing to spend messing with Windows. I suppose there were the least surprises with 1809, after it got some patches. Interestingly, a bit off-topic, but another MS product from the time, SQL Server 2019, is supposedly very popular version of SQL Server these days and it will also be supported for the longer period. I ended up turning off a bunch of scheduled tasks, so things don't get fired left and right, reducing disk activity. Bells and whistles should still be functional. Still using plain HDD, interestingly, the one data disk being written to the least was the one that ended up developing few bad sectors there and there while the other two disks are OK for now. SuperFetch behavior seems to be a lot like Vista's, I don't remember Windows 7 preloading as much data. Loading user profile takes several seconds though, significantly slower compared to previous versions, all seems good when things settle.

An excellent choice, friend...feel free to let people know your thoughts on it! To me it's a great OS. You really can't go wrong with the LTSB/LTSC versions of Windows 10 in general. For now, I've gone back to 7...and before the admins get mad (I apologize for the multitude of posts--I have tried to keep them at least tangentially relevant) & other users start raising their flaming torches, this time it's pretty much final until I'm on a newer computer that doesn't properly support 7, upgrade from a HDD to a SSD, or am basically 'forced' to upgrade due to browser needs. Besides the fact that 7 just gives me better overall performance anyway, the biggest problem I've found is that 10 seems to write to disk a lot more frequently than 7 does...both tend to write to disk quite heavily at times but it's a lot worse with 10 than it is with 7. It wouldn't be an issue with a SSD, but I'm still using a HDD, and don't want the performance on that thing to suffer due to constant writes (after all, if it ain't broke you shouldn't fix it, and that old HDD is still working fine). So here's my final summary for now: if you are on a machine with a SSD, by all means go with 10 or whatever you're comfortable with running...you're pretty much good to go. If you're like me and still using a HDD, my best advice is to stick with 7 because it is much, much friendlier with older hardware in general, and with hard disk drives (and properly supports SSDs, so you're fine both ways). If your heart is set on using 10, stick to an LTSB/LTSC version--they're much more stable and 'sane' than regular 10 has ever been. If you care about performance, you may get better results with 7 on older hardware, but there should be little noticeable difference on much newer hardware, and assuming you're on a machine with full 7 driver support and a SSD, the choice is yours. I speak only from my own experience, and as others have probably figured out I'm not the most 'stable' source of information...but then again, all of us are constantly learning!

If I had to choose between Windows XP x86 and x64, I would always go with x86. The driver support is much better in x86.

I'm actually looking into ltsc 2019 (ver 1809) now as a new option going forward (it has support until 2029) and is less bloated compared to normal windows 10

Currently using today's 55.0 and it looks like the web components was already added to these versions. What a massive improvement. Disabled the polyfill addon and github is rendering. A few sites that were previously not coming in like a utility site now are so must have been related to web components (Spectrum still isn't). But the real good news is youtube and twitter are vastly improved. The most up to date Firefox user agent unlike before works and the sites come in and render fast. Looking forward to continuing updates.

@Cocodile I think, his board has only Sata connectors. And when you are lucky, your Bios offers you the possibility to use them as IDE-drive Dietmar

Just resize the taskbar, google how.

Follow this issue regarding throttling being back again in a number of cases.

I need disks to be able to Install it that's why I'm waiting

... "a strange game" in which "the only winning move is not to play." jaclaz

BTW, there is additionally the possibility to update MWAV - eScan Antivirus Toolkit offline. On their homepage, an weekly offline updater can be downloaded. To update offline an offline AV scanner is a bit funny, but in any case simply great. Here is the link: https://www.escanav.de/german/content/products/generic_eScan/escan_mailscan_weeklyupdates.asp Cheers, AstroSkipper

So your „Extended Kernel“ won‘t even be based on Windows 8.1 but rather on Windows 10‘s Technical Preview? All you would have to do is to debomb it and than you want to call it Windows 8.1 Extended Kernel? Doesn‘t seem right to me. You should rather focus on Build 9600, as I think most of the Windows 8.1 users wan‘t to stay on that version for a reason. Furthermore, is there any news about how to get Chromium 113 on 8.1 ?

I already explained in the topic why I can't share the ready-made modded Opera versions here. It's illegal. Maybe you need to use some form of machine translation. https://msfn.org/board/topic/184249-chrome-110-based-opera-i-ported-it-to-vista/?do=findComment&comment=1233297 The link to the official Opera is here. You would need to mod it, but I no longer share the info on how to do it, due to a recent incident of its misuse/abuse. Now I can only share with the moderators, if they are interested. So your choice would be to download and wait for the Vista Kernel to be released (it will include my Opera hacks, also). https://get.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera-developer/96.0.4674.0/win/Opera_Developer_96.0.4674.0_Setup_x64.exe

I forgot to list in my previous post the game where people post truisms, my bad, though it may well belong to the "something else" category. Next one will likely be about RIS installation ... jaclaz

Dupe topic. Other one is here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183446-windows-81-extended-kernel/

While researching for an antivirus program which still works under Windows XP, I came across an interesting offline virus scanner that is still fully XP-compatible. The program is called MWAV - eScan Antivirus Toolkit. It is free for private and home use. MWAV provides the ability to scan for any virus, spyware, adware or other dangerous software on your computer. MWAV requires no installation and can be run directly from your computer, on whatever media. It can also run when other antivirus software is installed on your computer. The database is continuously updated to detect new spyware and adware, and the scanning engine is constantly improved for faster and smarter detection. Their homepage is in German. Use a translator if German is not your native language. Here is the link: https://www.escanav.de/german/content/products/MWAV/escan_mwav.asp

De-bloat, de-crapify Opera, these are the only files that it needs to run trouble free. EDIT : updated screenshot. @NotHereToPlayGames, for you ! I know you will appreciate (in contrast to some others).

97 (4711) released, for you to have fun. https://get.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera-developer/97.0.4711.0/win/Opera_Developer_97.0.4711.0_Setup_x64.exe

Eventually it would be either Win7 or Win10/11 look, don't see the need to invent something in the middle. Would you show your All Programs looking after and before?

High contrast. Try that: https://www.startisback.com/StartAllBack_setup.exe Yes, it's in elevated dllhost now

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Yeah, wrong setting but it all works now. Vista has been really good to me so far with this hardware as a daily driver along with the extended kernel

Same here.

I have them. See below and bookmark this post, so that you can always see them when logged in. [Edit] The link to yt-dlp doesn't change any more. It is hosted on GitHub for quite some time now.

Also don't forget to mourn for no more Chrome for Windows Vista with Extended kernel - unless Win32 manages to run the W10 versions of it. Also don't be happy that early - eventually a Chinese fork (just like 360chrome) will allow us to get newer Chrome versions running on Windows 7 - which I don't care since it's going to drop Manifest v2 support in 2024 (can go and ---- itself with it) and I'm currently on Firefox (using Slimjet only for things like Discord and YT Music).

if mozilla really does this, it will mark their end. Seriously, they learned their lesson when ending support for xp and vista

Then it would appear that M$ has not actually discontinued SHA-1 based endpoints, but is merely discriminating against Vista/XP/2000.

I don't know. I just installed Windows 7 x64 on my computer. After installing SP1 from DVD and installing the Update Rollup from disk, I attempted to install Nvidia 452.06. It refused to install until after I had installed the SHA-2 updates: KB4474419 & KB4490628. Nvidia was kind enough to provide direct download links in the error message. Edit: Upon further research, it turns out I had installed the Servicing Stack April 2015 Update (KB3020369), which is required before installing the April 2016 Convenience Rollup (KB 3125574-v4).

Well, most of my knowledge of learnt from many sites so i'll list a few for ya http://www.pscode.com - The mother load of all programming languages tutorials and examples http://www.freevbcode.com - Another good site http://code.box.sk - another multi-lang programming site http://www.allapi.net - Site discontinued but still a mine field of info