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First, I don't break it. If someone must take responsibility for this, then it should be Mozilla and Moonchild Productions, not me. Second, you should study whats the difference between gecko 38 and 52, and how many changes do Moonchild people changed that enhance speed and security, and changes that prevents running in old windows, and how much effort I put to restore functionality on old windows. If you failed to do this, then please leave this thread.

Java has been updated today October 16, 2018 to Version 8 Update 191. First, download the last known working XP installer (http://sdfox7.com/xp/sp3/EOL/jre-8u152-windows-i586.exe), then download the latest updated tar.gz file here https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html or my FTP http://sdfox7.com/xp/sp3/EOL/java/. Installer packages after Version 8 Update 152 do NOT work correctly on XP, so to manually update to the current version follow the instructions here: Or here:

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mozilla-firefox-esr-consider-extending-windows-xp Please sign it. We need a revolution now.

Matt A. Tobin spewing, once more, poison against Vista users and against the New Moon fork: #817#issuecomment-433252852 The fact is I got prior clearance from Moonchild himself to report bugs (found in New Moon 28 on Vista) in the GitHub issue tracker, if: 1. The bug has been also reported in the Palemoon forum by users of the official PM builds 2. I could replicate the bug I found by using an official build on Win7+ So that is why I got involved in #817#issuecomment-427697783 Honestly, I find all that hostility from Tobin to be totally unwarranted... Mind you, I refuse to even dignify his response by trying to argue with him; we all know by now he's a nut case... I will accept his code contributions to PM but am not prepared, nor willing, to accept his attitude (rant over...)

EDIT: Yes Audacity 2.3.1 Running on Windows XP x86 @sdfox7 Link

roytam1,I did not want to offend you!I apologize!

@roytam1 Thank you for the tremendous effort and time you put forth in providing me with a fast and secure browser to run on my XP machine. I just want you to know there are many like me who certainly appreciate all you do.

New build of basilisk/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rths.cf/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.1.win32-git-20181020-56eb74dbe-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rths.cf/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.1.win64-git-20181020-56eb74dbe-xpmod.7z diff: https://o.rths.cf/basilisk/UXP-xp-gitdiff-20180606.7z PM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-28.2.0a1.win32-git-20181020-56eb74dbe-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-28.2.0a1.win64-git-20181020-56eb74dbe-xpmod.7z Official repo changes since my last build: - Issue #832 Part 1: Remove modules, chrome, and preferences. (98bf92215) - Issue #832 Part 2: Remove styling and images. (7dbe6a3b4) - Issue #832 Part 3: Remove strings. (69afcc4f1) - Update HSTS preload list (b927e0d5c) - Remove unused import from AboutReader module. Tag #361. (f6db3fa90) - Update Readability from mozilla-central release branch (FF 62.0.3). Tag #361. (f696173b4) - Merge pull request #836 from Ascrod/translation (46eab94c0) - Merge pull request #837 from Ascrod/readerview (c423bdaf0) - Fix a test (#670) (8c3d0aaca) - Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/UXP (56eb74dbe)

Latest changelog is available here as well: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser basilisk/UXP browser (MCP reforked 52ESR as new base), and PM28XP releases: Binaries are moved to here: (I'm lazy to edit all previous posts) https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/?sort=date&order=desc FAQ: Q: Having audio distorted when watching Twitter/etc.? A: Please try turning on "Firefox compatibility" in options dialog or either "general.useragent.compatMode = 2" or "general.useragent.compatMode.firefox = true" in about:config and reload the page. Q: Can't play H264 clips? (for PM27/KM76) A: Download following packages for your browser edition(32bit/64bit) and extract DLLs to same place as palemoon.exe lives. 32bit LAV dlls are in separated package (extracted from K-Lite codec pack 13.5.5) https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/lav.7z Just in case if you have an older processor which has no SSE instruction set support: 32bit NoSSE (ffmpeg 3.1.1 lite build) https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/lav-dll-lite-mmx.7z 32bit No ASM (ffmpeg 3.1.1 lite build, if build above doesn't work on your processor) https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/lav-dll-lite-noasm.7z 64bit LAV dlls are in separated package (LAV Filters 64bit 0.70.2) https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/lav64.7z Q: VP9 Support? (for PM27) A: VP9 works if async MSE option is unchecked and "Enable MSE for WebM Video" checked in options. Q: Extensions/Themes not working after updating binaries. A: If you encounter extensions not show icon, clicking options button of extension causing browser unresponsive, etc. please try following actions: 1.a Killing palemoon.exe process 1.b Copy whole extensions folder out of profile folder (to somewhere else for example, desktop) 1.c Restart browser without restoring previous sessions 1.d Goto about:addons page 1.e Drop XPI files from the copied-out extensions folder to about:addonss page One-by-One. 1.f After all XPI files are dropped and installed/updated, restart browser Q: Virus detected? A: Tell your anti-virus program to exclude palemoon.exe and/or plugin-container.exe. Some anti-virus heuristic engines (for example symantec's sonar engine) is too sensitive to palemoon.exe/plugin-container.exe network activities. Q: Where's your patches for compiling my own? A: Please visit the link above "FAQ:". Latest source patch files are named "sources_patches_YYYYMMDD.7z" in that page. Q: basilisk browser showing basic pages in GMail? A: set these to "ture" in about:config general.useragent.compatMode.firefox general.useragent.compatMode.gecko Q: How to change User Interface language? A: Please see this post: Q: Portable Loader? A: You can always use official portable launcher with my binaries, or you can use my simple portable loader written in NSIS: ------------------------------------- Palemoon 27 build: ------------------------------------- basilisk/moebius browser (deprecated by MCP, forked by me), and also 26.5 as playground : And Palemoon 26.5 and K-Meleon 74 with Goanna 2.2 (palemoon-26.5) for vanilla Win2000 build: ------------------------------------- K-Meleon browser with Goanna/Tycho engine: It has its own sub-forum in K-Meleon official forum! http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/list.php?19 Latest build: ------------------------------------- Firefox ESR 45 with TenFourFox fixes for SSE-only machines: ------------------------------------- K-Meleon Original cross-post is here: ----original post message belows---- Today's build with portable LAV libraries. Place LAV dlls (av*.dll) in same place as palemoon.exe lives. Official repo changes since my last build: -Clobber for Brotli/WOFF2 update -Fix some comments (no code change) -Enable Brotli content-encoding by default (https only). -Pull woff2 upstream update. -Update Brotli decompressor. My changes since my last build: - Upgrade Mozilla NSPR and NSS to 4.16 and 3.22 for (hopefully) faster AES operations 32bit: https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-27.6.0a1.win32-git-20171002_2-e68ab5b3d-xpmod.7z 64bit: https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-27.6.0a1.win64-git-20171002_2-e68ab5b3d-xpmod.7z

Project Name : ExtendedXP(Extended Kernel for XP) Current Version : 2017/05/22 Production Stage :: Public beta KernelEx or ExtendedKernel was invented long ago by loyal MSFN Member Xeno86 to run XP/2000 application on 9x .Further reflected by rloew in his unicow wrapper project for windows 98 second edition .The idea was carried after long time by BlackWingCat of Windows 2000 community and WildBill of windows 2000 community . This my attempt for coming up with similar kernel extension for windows xp in time so that when in future most programs will stop working on XP that time we can use it . Updated System Components :- Functions added to advapi32.dll:- Function added to kernel32.dll:- Added function to ntdll.dll:- Added function to shell32.dll Note: Most of the functions are stub so i have future plans to remove them Added functions to User32.dll :- KnownIssues :- *VLC media-player always crash (Though Skinned mode work) *Resource hacker setup crashes always .(inno setup ) ( Bug found with CryptoLibrary )(thanks to heinoganda) *Avast free 2017 & esed does not work (Something wrong with Shell32 )(thanks to heinoganda) LINKS ARE REMOVED DUE TO NEW RELEASE OF HOT FIXES WITH KERNEL32.DLL & NTDLL.DLL This Post is my request to knowledgeable persons to help me to fix the known issues . Thanks in advance THIS VERSION IS ONLY FOR TESTING PLEASE KINDLY USE ANY VIRTUAL MACHINE OR ANY PC THAT NOT IMPORTANT . THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING. !!Windows XP Forever!!

That's why I said "don't mention any forks' name in their territory". Just doing a regular bug report using official builds and environments will be good for both sides.

Wow. I do have to admit that I am very impressed with what everyone is able to accomplish. @MrMateczko: I had given up on trying to run 98SE on modern hardware a long time ago. I guess I never could justify purchasing new equipment for that purpose, but given that I had kept around so many old pieces of equipment for a long time, including some PCI graphics cards, I suppose I probably could have done it if I had been targeting it. Unfortunately, so much of that stuff has made its way to the landfill since then. HOWEVER, since I do make regular trips to the landfill and often see old 98/XP era machines laying around there, perhaps I could rummage for some precious items in your spec list. @DougB: Thanks for giving me the faith that this actually was a worthwhile endeavor. I am actually typing this post now on the 128MB Pentium III laptop in Pale Moon 3.6.32, and it is performing quite decently here on MSFN, which had been crushing poor Opera 12.02 for me yesterday evening. I have to imagine that you are an x86 assembly developer, if you are booting to DOS 7.1 on a regular basis! If I were to be using this laptop on a regular basis, it would likely be to be reading the NIV84 on the one remaining site on the Internet that I have found that contains it, as well as using Acrobat Reader 6 to pull up PDFs for my Bible Study. @LoneCrusader: I am very similar in liking to prove that computing tasks can continue to be done on machines that have long since been written off by others. Part of it is my built-in annoyance that software has become so ridiculously bloated these days, because developers frankly just don't need to be optimal anymore. Sloppiness can still unfortunately achieve acceptable results with today's ridiculous amount of horsepower most people have at their disposal. Like you, another part of my passion is just simply the technical challenge of proving it can be done. And with everyone else's help here on MSFN, you have helped me get a LOT done with a meager 128MB of memory. Just imagine how much more virtual computing could be accomplished if we simply made the effort to keep our VMs operating with minimal resources consumed. Before DougB showed me the Pale Moon 3.6.32 light, i was experimenting with Tiny Core Linux and was actually starting to make progress running even more modern browsers on this same hardware. But so far here on MSFN, I have not gotten anything to perform better than 98SE with PM 3! @rloew: Once I get strapped into a particular workstation, I try to stay there as long as possible to prove that I can keep on functioning without pulling the parachute. One of my "bail out" (or "bail sideways") tricks is to pull up Microsoft Remote Desktop and start controlling other modern machines on my network. Of course, I have to admit that I really am a Mac guy, so I probably need to figure out what is the most modern VNC software available for 98SE and cross my fingers that I can get through the security protocol modernization that Apple has been pushing out over the past few years. @all: Thanks a lot for keeping all this rolling. I believe there is still a future for squeezing the most life out of the fewest system resources possible. I have a Xen Hypervisor running on one of the stray machines on my network, and am wondering if any of these tricks we've been coming up with might have some use in that space. Thanks for the quick responses to my posts, gentlemen. I am praying many blessings on you all!

First install the updates from this topic, to make Windows Update search for all of the updates you need faster: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-update/why-has-vista-stopped-automatic-updates/42c98c78-157b-44b7-858a-3ba92933cb90 Then run WU and install all it offers (no telemetry is contained in any update, so it's all good). Then download my repository and use the script I included at the root of it to install updates (if I recall correctly, you have to open it and change the directory it uses to install all of the updates in a folder). After all that you should have an up to date Vista install with no vulnerabilities whatsoever (in practice, anyway)

@dencorso You were faster than me, but still it would be good to include this information in the first post of this topic. That could be updated by the "resident supermegaüberhyper-ultraparanoid" from time to time!

Knock on wood! Yes: MU/WU still use TLS 1.0. So you've got to keep it enabled or to enable it just before searching for updates, which is more of a PITA. Don't you see these settings in "Internet Options"? If you don't you have to delete a couple of settings in the registry, as described in this post.

Now, if you need it in Italian, for instance, that's OK, because @heinoganda created the workaround in all languages. Do PM him.

VistaLover ,I understood you !

Indeed ... And for that you deserve all the praise there is! Technically, even they can't be held responsible for issues on the XP platform, as they - since long ago - do not target that (so they can't test on XP) and do not care if their code, patched only to the extent it will allow it to run satisfactorily on XP/Vista (and this is only where Roy steps in) creates issues for XP/Vista users... @zipandlips: My dear Russian friend, you should stop sounding demanding, impolite, disrespectful; this attitude will not get you far, not only here, but probably in other places where you'd arrive to seek help ... I sense you are just overly frustrated and not meaning to insult people, still... In any case, read what I wrote previously in this (long) trhead: If you can reliably reproduce some of your issues with the official Pale Moon 28.1.0 build (perhaps on a borrowed Win7+ machine), then post about it (in mild language, please) in the official forum, else take what you're offered and be glad about it... This is a one-person effort, don't expect that wonders can be worked for an OS now 4.5 years EOL'd

Just wanted to report back... Since the 1479 experimental release, I have experienced 0 crashes and system seems to run smoothly...as if it is taking no impact on performance (AG extension loader=0.2MB/DWM=22MB) Thanks for the hard work bigmuscle and looking forward to the final release (Ha...final, that is the wrong word. It'll never be final because MS keeps jacking it up) ...but thanks for the continuing efforts towards the game of cat-and-mouse.

I do, but I announce them on Zeranoe's forum. I try to release a new build every 4 months or so. I'm using 3DYD's LAV Filters fork for WinXP. Maybe their code/changes can help you with that.

We have success. I have updated Windows Defender. and attempted running a manual update. BITS and Windows Update come on as needed, and then go back off eventually. Both services are set to Manual. But most importantly, the Scheduled Task entry never regenerates or starts. It has remained "Disabled" I want to thank everyone for their help. @UCyborg, @dencorso and @HarryTri, I appreciate all of your help.

just got the v1479 exp update...will try and report back. Thanks in advance **UPDATE** No crashes on taskview launch now...working great so far. Thanks for the super fast exp release!!!

RIP Paul Allen. In your time, MS did rock!

Ideally yes, but in practice I've found a few sites still using TLS 1.0 (!) and at least one (www.fedex.com) which only supports weaker cipher suites. So you may find you need to keep a few that SSLLabs marks with orange. Try to keep them to a minimum, though.

It was only a matter of time before older Chromium versions are no longer supported by μBlock (last version which supports Chromium 49 is version 1.16.20). For this reason, you can download an older version from Github in the following link and run it in developer mode under Extensions. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases