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I think there is more to the old operating systems than just internet. These machines are resources of creativity with the tools, that run on them. Writing programs, graphic programs, music programs, programming tools... even if there would be no internet at all, the old computers are capable of plenty of things. I can work best with the tools that I know best, which are the old tools. Okay, the resolution may not be the highest. But as long as the hardware runs (whose spare parts cost 0 money on the scrapyard)... it would be an uneconomic choice to switch. Consider the time you need to l

@Dixel Excuse me, but I would like to ask who D.Draker is.

For me using xp is not just the internet. It is lot more too. I got adobe photoshop, gimp2, paintdotnet, illustrator for photo editing. Then pinnacle 12, adobe premiere, avidemux for video editing. For listening radio/scaning radio freqs I got SDRsharp with RTL-SDR dongle. For tv I got happauge wintv soloHD DVB-C/DVB-T/DVB-T2 tuner that I use with DVBviewer to watch/record free tv channels. Then I got lot of films/videos/music/other contect on my hdd and windvd to play ones I got on dvd. For remote management of computers I got putty (latest build). Then I got old visual studio,

I wouldn't consider myself to be a hardcore diehard; I just enjoy it, and for me, it's a challenge to keep it running. When somebody says you 'can't' do something, that makes me want to prove them wrong even more! I intend to hold on to it so long as my aging hardware continues to grow old gracefully :)

for people who can't register here, there is another place you can create post for asking/help besides in github and blog: https://forum.eclipse.cx/viewforum.php?f=33

I was under the impression that this topic is about using software that requires Win7 or above on Vista with the aid of win32’s extended kernel. It has become clear to me that you are not particularly interested in security software, and therefore see no reason why others wouldn’t be content with a legacy version of Malwarebytes. Personally, I am not very interested in gaming, but I would never presume to declare all discussion of PC games as being OT in someone else’s thread.

Thus far.. @roytam1 has done our community an enormous service with his proficient browser builds. So, between Firefox 52.9.1 ESR; Serpent, and New Moon, I'm able to do everything I need to. When I do have to use Chrome, regrettably, Vivaldi/Opera/Iron are all only based on 49, so I only use it when I truly need to because of 5 years of gaping security holes. Otherwise.. I'm basically on a 'Rickroll'

This has been known for years. And this is obviously a years-old article, too... as Windows XP does NOT have 27% market share since probably 2014. And, Windows 8 is cited as "new". You did give credit to the site and author of the article, but a direct link (no shorteners) would be very handy, and reccommended to include should you share another article. Also, it is considered weird and somewhat annoying by many to capitialize the first letter of every word in English. Only the first word of a sentance, names (Microsoft, Bob, Ontario, etc.), and acronyms (Such as M.A.D.D.) would typic

I got similar issues in KM forum and that it always traced into same rev range: http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,145699,154398#msg-154398 I'm surprised that why the problem floating on water right now but not in Nov. EDIT: after some debug, guilty commit is found and workaround is committed, it should be fixed in next build.

This is one of the worst threads I could think of to have pinned. Pinned threads are reserved for important information that generally affects everyone using the OS. If there was a crucial fix that applied to everyone or just about everyone, then it warrants a pin. But pinning a thread will not give it more attention. I don't even know what the original post said but even then, this is more of a per user basis issue and not a widespread problem. I mean, you don't even have much explanation about what's so slow about it or when it occurs so how does that help anyone?

@XPerceniol @sparty411 @roytam1 @VistaLover @XP-x64-Lover @RainyShadow @Win10-Hater Thank you all for the beautiful words written.

privacy.firstparty.isolate was added with FF55 so it does not work with NM28. Also privacy.userContext.ui.enabled is not available in NM28. In order to clean StartupCache you could make the modification that I have inserted some time ago in CCleaner: https://msfn.org/board/topic/178378-ccleaner-mailnews-new-moon/?tab=comments#comment-1163230 [Mozilla Startup Cache *] The setting works with the initial requirements of the topic. I did a cleanup with CCleaner for Pale Moon (which is seen as Firefox) to default values. Then I activated Startup Cache:

Below is my guide on how to convert some of the Chinese still present in 360Chrome. Also includes a few tweaks to reduce/eliminate privacy risks. I'll unfold the guide a little at a time over a few weekends or so and have inserted "placeholder" posts to keep them all at the top of the thread. I use the Russian Repack from here (version 13 build 2206) -- https://lrepacks.net/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html Run the "_Unpack Portable.cmd" and it will create a "360Chrome" folder - we will be modifying files inside that folder.

We'll see what the future holds, but like most of the other responses so far, I've no intention of giving up Windows XP for my daily driver computer. Even when I had decided to stick with XP back in the Vista days I knew that would mean eventually needing other machines for certain tasks. After all, Microsoft first tried to force gamers into upgrading to the newest Windows OS with Halo 2's release (and with deciding to make DX10 Vista-only, a tactic they've repeatedly used since). So I knew even back then I'd need a dedicated gaming PC not running XP at a certain point. Yet here I am, sti

If you're going to make these polls, they should actually make sense (bonus points if they were to have a purpose). Obviously, one could not use XP "forever" (as a main, i presume that is what you are talking about). At some point it will become too difficult/impossible to use it for modern things, for even the most hardcore diehards. So that pretty much takes the first option off of the table for everyone. And presuming one didn't plan to use XP "forever" (or 2025, or 2023...rather inconsistent), switching to Linux is not the ONLY option. One could move to a newer Windows OS, they could

Hi all, I've followed MSFN on and off for a few years as a lurker, but finally decided to join as I'm building my first bare-bones old-school Windows/DOS system and wanted to share the experience and get some tips too I'm hoping to build a dual-boot DOS/Win3.11 and Windows 98SE system. Let's see how it goes! Stay safe everyone Jasmin

I did not tell you to use the official Pale Moon build. I suggested downloading the portable and THEN COPYING THE BUILD THAT YOU DO USE INTO THE BIN FOLDER. We only want to use the "portable loader", NOT the "official Pale Moon build". ps - not for the faint of heart, but I wouldn't run antivirus software if you PAID ME TO. Never been hit with a virus (and would put money on it that I never will be). Click-Savvy. Know what you are clicking, use a good HOSTS file, use NoScript and only allow white-listed .js, use a good uMatrix list, et cetera. But again, I wouldn't ru

One of the many reasons why having a chrome based browser monopoly is bad. Feels like we are back in the bad old ie6 days.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210206-2e28c2d-uxp-bd9fdeccc-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20210206-2e28c2d-uxp-bd9fdeccc-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210206-2e28c2d-uxp-bd9fdeccc-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github

No.

Welcome to MSFN :) Oh.. the memories of DOS/Win3.1 and my IBM Thinkpads. Have fun !

This isn't a blog.

You gave the same advice earlier in this thread. Are you recommending Malwarebytes Free (with no real-time protection) or Premium (with real-time protection that does not perform very well in testing by independent labs)? Of course 3.5.1 supported vanilla Vista and is nearly 3 years old. Is there no hope of using current versions of Malwarebytes for Windows 7 and above with extended kernel? To his credit, winvispixp sought advice before selecting an antivirus to use with extended kernel, but unfortunately not much good advice was available. If I understood correctly, Kaspersky didn’t cras

hi I'm user of forum msfn , i don't like windows 10 becuze it spyis on me , and I use windows xp

Why Windows 10? You just could install Windows 8.1 X64 and dual boot it with your XP X86. Windows 8.1 is much better than Windows 10.

First of all. What is point of this post? And second you should never ever declare yourself as hacker proof. That is like asking someone hack your system. I am not hacker proof but try reduce attack surface best I can

^this. Also it is your life not someone else. If you want live it way you like do it while you can. Nobody else can desire what you should like or do. Something I learnt when grew up. I do not have to please anybody. And if live way you want no need regret in 40 years why did not enjoy life. No reason to stop.

For me, remembering the past brings me great pain if I'm to be totally honest. Actually, there is a difference, though, between Nostalgic and Wistful. Speaking computers and legacy items from the past ... nothing wrong with 'digging up bones' ' / 'blast from the past' - so to speak. We get a chance to appreciate what others were seeing as brand spanking new and fresh at that time in history. Sometimes it bring lots of us comfort to seek out what is familiar, it seems, at times, just when we get the 'hang' of it ... boom - things are already obsolete; its frustrating. So, being nostalgic is fin

@Mr.Scienceman2000 Maybe you could have a look at an Invidious instance (https://instances.invidio.us/) to watch Youtube videos. It allows you to watch Youtube videos but in a much more efficent way. It's like a real-time third-party hosted Youtube video index. The videos itself are loaded from Google servers, but what makes Youtube.com a bloated website nowadays is missing. Horray!

I have to agree with this! A few years ago, I needed to install Visual Studio for a class I was taking, and since my daily driver laptop was (and still is) a 2012 MacBook Pro (Ivy Bridge i7-based), I figured I'd install it to a VM for convenience. Well, that was a mistake, as it took over three hours to install, and it was so slow it was worthless. So instead, I used an older version of Visual Studio on my Dell Latitude D630 running Windows 2000 or XP (or maybe it was Notepad++ with a standalone compiler?); the instructor kept looking at me funny for doing this, as he was a big fan

I said i will stick with xp , but i didnt , i tried switching to newer versions , linux distros , but none of them filled my needs , So xp is the best

Even if I cannot use Windows XP for modern activities (websites that require the newest browser), I'm definitely never getting rid of XP. It's a great OS and isn't overly bloated like Windows 10. So, I'll be sure XP stays on the older machines with Linux, and Windows 10 can stay on the hardware XP isn't compatible with. Not completely XP-related, but I'm annoyed how much Microsoft has bloated Office 365 and Visual Studio. Both have become stupidly slow for simple tasks on a i5 haswell PC from 2015.

Leak for leak, the 2k code has been leaked so long ago nobody even talks about it anymore... so what?

I still use XP as my default OS, and hope to continue to do so for a very long time yet. I have to have Windows 10 as well now because I have programs I need, like Adobe editing and web publishing programs, which now will only run on 64 bit Windows 10. For general use I still much prefer the UI of XP though.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210220-d9301c4-uxp-2b6effbf2-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20210220-d9301c4-uxp-2b6effbf2-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210220-d9301c4-uxp-2b6effbf2-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github

I would to use WinXP as far as I can. I even can run Windows 10 vms inside Windows XP, and the experience is better using PAE (my pc have an I5 processor with 4 cores and 8gb of ram). I expect the One Core API/Extended XP will make XP able to run modern software. I'm also thinking that there will be XP bassed operating Systems, maybe with the addition of Linux shell and dlls. So, I still will be using XP, but I don't know if that will be forever. I just expect there will be alternatives to Windows 10, Linux and Mack.

No, I used to say also that I will use WinXP forever too, but it became unusable for my everyday needs, so I switched to q4OS Linux with xpq4 theme and from then I never looked back at it. Of course I still keep an XP VM around, If I need software that does not work with wine...

To each their own, but since you bring it up and seem to be requesting feedback -- my feedback is this, I DON'T GIVE A RATS ARSE ABOUT "UPDATES". The very FIRST thing I do whenever I install ANY operating systems is to DISABLE UPDATES !!! !!! !!! However, I do SLIPSTREAM updates before every installation - so I do "update". And one of the things I *LOVE* about Win XP is that I don't have to WASTE THE TIME slipstreaming MORE updates. I stopped slipstreaming and patching SO-CALLED "risks" in June 2017 on this computer (WinXP x64) and in January 2018 on my SIX computers runn

WinNTSetup 4.5.0 Final - Dropped 32-Bit version, system requirements are now Windows 7x64 + - VHD functions no longer uses diskpart.exe - VHD Attach / Detach supports ISO files - VHD Creation supports GPT Partitionsttyle - VHD Install will always create internal boot files depending on partition style - new default VHD creation type MBR - BIOS/UEFI - added VHD command line options /gpt and /mbr - fixed instant VHD creation cylinder bug - fixed iso mount does not select install.swm - Fixed open file dialog pattern not working on default WinPE 3.x + - Fixed wimgapi captu

Speaking of that, has anyone seen MattKC's video where he deliberately tries to infect Windows 98 with viruses? He went into it expecting to get viruses immediately, but got more and more frustrated that he couldn't no matter what he did. Granted, Nostalgia Nerd was able to mess up Windows 10 with DOS-era viruses, 7,000 of them, ultimately. Though unlike MattKC he actually went and deliberately downloaded a huge bunch of "zoo viruses" rather than just trying to be a particularly careless about his Internet habits. Either way, it does show that there is an element of security through

It's sad to see legacy support dropped yet again for legacy hardware. Although I agree PC's older than 2005 are pretty slow, cutting them off will make it hard for those who can't afford new PCs...

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210213-d9301c4-uxp-9ca880e20-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20210213-d9301c4-uxp-9ca880e20-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210213-d9301c4-uxp-9ca880e20-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github

A counterargument to that is there are many poorer countries like China and India where the people simply can't afford newer boxes. They're going to use what they got regardless and so it does everyone a great service to at least provide them with a working browser with some security protections. Now I get that browser developers can't do this forever but Goggle has the money, although they do what they feel like because they have the power. This is where Roytam and others deserve a good deal of credit for keeping the older versions of Firefox patched and up to date as best they can since

That is probably auto-updated via a bit of javascript so I wouldn't read too much into it. From my point of view it had a good run and i got value for money for the small amount it cost. I have moved to Curtains now which in many ways is better. I have done the bare minimujm with it at present, messed around with a couple of different transparent title bar styles (one with a gradient and the attached one with an attempt at replicating the acrylic look as I described above) and made my explorer semi-transparent when not in focus but it offers far more in terms of personalisation.

UXP core is 29-ish (without using NSS SQLite (i.e. keeping NSS using DBM for better over-network-drive performance), preserving marquee, keeping old user agent override key name, etc.) PM front-end is kind-of 29-ish, but due to above changes, it is more 28-alike. (like keeping old omni.ja format)

The DLL is signed only as SHA-2, but I don't believe that is the reason as Vista doesn't normally block execution of user-mode code with "invalid" signatures, and the other runtime DLLs packaged with PM are cut from the same cloth and work normally.

Delete api-ms-win-core-memory-l1-1-0.dll from the Pale Moon folder and then it will run, falling back to Vista-compatible binaries in system32 installed by the VC++ 2015-19 runtime. This is the second program broken by Windows 10-derived runtime libraries (Code::Blocks was the first). Though in this case, there are no missing functions, but apparently that DLL delay-loads some functions that are certainly valid, but have ".dll" attached to them, making them invalid.

Direct links from vendor: XP SP2 64-bit https://download.visualstudio.microsoft.com/download/pr/566435ac-4e1c-434b-b93f-aecc71e8cffc/B75590149FA14B37997C35724BC93776F67E08BFF9BD5A69FACBF41B3846D084/VC_redist.x64.exe XP SP3 32-bit https://download.visualstudio.microsoft.com/download/pr/566435ac-4e1c-434b-b93f-aecc71e8cffc/0D59EC7FDBF05DE813736BF875CEA5C894FFF4769F60E32E87BD48406BBF0A3A/VC_redist.x86.exe Credit goes to @abbodi1406 (from content originally posted on MDL) . These are the last VC_redist.x*.exe packages that have been DUAL-signed by M$ (SHA-1[XP/Vista readable] + SH

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210130-5fdeb2a-uxp-e1daeef18-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20210130-5fdeb2a-uxp-e1daeef18-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210130-5fdeb2a-uxp-e1daeef18-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github