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Hmm.. let's see. "Not doing a good job" could easily be defined as "breaking things that already work." For example existing code support for older operating systems. Nice and simple. I fail to see how roytam's software is "abused," give that he is actually fixing things you or Moonchild have broken, on purpose. See above. No one claimed they are official. In fact the About dialog in these builds clearly states they are not. "Not doing a good job" again..? See above. I'd like to see some proof of this supposed "massive confusion." If there is any confusion, it must come from those who are clueless in the first place. You cannot fault roytam for users who are too ignorant to read the About dialog or to deal with any issues here, where the builds are linked, rather than going to you or to the official PaleMoon forum. Also I'd love to see even one example where you or Moonchild or anyone else in your "group" has "cleaned up a mess when something goes wrong" that addressed the first single issue that affected these older operating systems or users of the unofficial builds on these systems. It sounds more to me like you're just a butthurt jerk who is having a tantrum because someone is making your toy work in places where you don't want it to. If you don't like it, write your own closed source program and stop "abusing" Mozilla's existing code. Without Mozilla's existing code, which once again I will remind you already provides compatibility for the systems roytam is targeting, and which you have intentionally broken, your pet projects would be nonexistent.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rths.cf/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.1.win32-git-20190302-e64dae886-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rths.cf/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.1.win64-git-20190302-e64dae886-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-28.5.0a1.win32-git-20190302-e64dae886-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-28.5.0a1.win64-git-20190302-e64dae886-xpmod.7z Official repo changes since my last build: - WIP fix 1 (c962e2051) - Move default-enable pref to application. (c08b490c5) - Update Basilisk FE code with HTTP Auth DoS protection. (f227feb6e) - Make the Auth prompt DOS protection a browser-element opt-in feature. (c1ece93c2) - Improve the http basic auth DOS protection heuristics. (e64dae886)

@roytam1 I would like to start this post by saying that I believe SOME of my interpretations from you and reactions to me have been partly hampered by cultural and language issues.. That isn't to say I don't have my moments of being a complete a s s h o l e or anything.. Everyone knows this but perhaps we can start to correct some of that going forward. I hope you get a chance to go through your website soon but if you are working at your job and are loosing sleep over this then do take your time. Your good faith efforts will be enough for me. As for your rebranding efforts.. I want to renew my offer to help you work out all the branding points you need to deal with in the actual codebase. The one specific issue is the navigator codebase.. SeaMonkey never fully separated out branding from the rest of the main application code as Firefox and Thunderbird did over time so I have to completely rework how branding works in Navigator to accommodate that for not only my project but also people who do rebuilds and forks. As well as consistency sake. I want to help you make your selection of products for Windows XP unique to you and to be as successful as possible. You do seem to want to do your own thing past simple rebuilds and I can very much respect that.. So let's work together to make sure you and your users have products they can be proud of. @LoneCrusader As an aside, Lunaris and Draconis are AWESOME names and I am jealous I didn't think of them.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20190309-e8e433a-uxp-7e0d3b80f-xpmod.7z Browser-only Suite Win32 https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20190309-e8e433a-uxp-7e0d3b80f-xpmod.7z source patch (excluding UXP): https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/boc-uxp-src-xpmod-20190223.7z Official repo changes since my last build: - [COMMUNICATOR] Platform Services (a541fcb) - README.md edited (b3047cb) - [CALENDAR] Remove Sunbird code (ed7fb2f) - {CENTRAL] Export current git branch from mach stub (ce3cb98) - [MAIL] Reinstate license wizard page in installer (8798702) - [MAIL] Remove unused unstable branding (093410b) - [COMM] Add a helpful readfile command to Communicator.jsm (d554bc0) - [COMM] Do error handling with Communicator.readfile (4ad210d) - [COMM] Add the basic UI for the eula component (4a8024e) - [COMM} Init Communicator.jsm in the eula component (3647b6e) - [COMM] Remove errent dtd from eula.xul (08121c2) - [COMM] Complete EULA (c5307fd) - [MAIL] Add EULA (c6c62f9) - [COMM] Remove init from Communicator.jsm (742680b) - [PLATFORM] Update commit pointer (d387e7b) - [MAIL] Make license branding dependent (3ac11c0) - [COMM] Include toolkit.mozbuild in communicator.mozbuild (eda9260) - [NAVIGATOR] Do /some/ unofficial rebranding (adfb407) - [NAVIGATOR] Add EULA to navigator (7ecdbbf) - [COMM] Fix remaining style issues with eula (3b8908a) - [PLATFORM] Update commit pointer (9148795) - [COMM] Set pref to false onCancel for eula (c76f3bf) - [COMM] Use a common function in Communicator.jsm to invoke the license window (42359ba) - [COMM] Fix license window (85dfa8f) - [MAIL] Add final EULA (0f5e33a) - [MAIL] Use the unwrapped version of the license (c994e32) - [NAVIGATOR] Add about:logopage (3fd8195) - [NAVIGATOR] Upgrade nsAboutRedirector js component (de8980d) - [NAVIGATOR] Part 2 (c8d2e85) - [NAVIGATOR] Maybe hopefully finish unofficial branding (4b9d0ad) - [NAVIGATOR] Fix preprocessing and config fallout from unofficial branding (26965bb) - [PLATFORM] Update commit pointer (3a8c4c9) - [NAVIGATOR] Make license branding dependent (3ecf640) - [COMM] Move download manager to communicator toolkit (17c459e) - [PLATFORM] Update commit pointer (ef2b12b) - [COMM] Downloads Manager stuffs (e8e433a) For UXP changes please see above.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rths.cf/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.1.win32-git-20190309-7e0d3b80f-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rths.cf/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.1.win64-git-20190309-7e0d3b80f-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-28.5.0a1.win32-git-20190309-7e0d3b80f-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-28.5.0a1.win64-git-20190309-7e0d3b80f-xpmod.7z Official repo changes since my last build: - Add hover state arrow images. (c8ef59dae) - Remove updater gunk from the about box. (a61164a88) - Replace about box backdrop. (7f6137983) - Update about box design. (f0c57ac5f) - Fix dynamic addition of build date. (97be0f65c) - [Basilisk] Add Netflix SSUAO to work around blocking behavior for EME DRM-enforcement for later Firefox versions. (fd3692657) - Remove texture layout endian-ness check for Moz2D. (b55a0dd24) - Tweak the about box layout a bit. (a7bca40ad) - Tweak the about box styling some more and clean up styles. (403605efb) - Adjust Pale Moon™ wordmark for better contrast (a49d052af) - Merge pull request #985 from MoonchildProductions/aboutbox-redesign (5dba1ebe8) - Remove e10s code from browser widget. (083d322b7) - Don't include nsDownloadManagerUI if the Communicator version is used (853fe00ba) - [PALEMOON] Fix updatesSeparator id mismatch (baeec92b6) - Revert "Don't include nsDownloadManagerUI if the Communicator version is used" (011610259) - Don't include nsDownloadManagerUI if the Communicator version is used (7e0d3b80f)

While I'm already also a Win 7 SP1 user, and sometimes even provide it support, my main, day-to-day OS is XP SP3, and I'll cling to it until it becomes nearly impossible to use (I've used 98SE from late 1999 to about 2014, so ca. 14 years as main day-to-day OS, and I hope to use XP SP3 like that for even longer, but my 1st XP install was from late 2007, so I'm not even 12 years on it, yet). I doubt I'll transition fully to 7 SP1 much before 2021 !!!

@dencorso I had my rant and anger spell.. Time for something more constructive so ye. @Dibya Vaguely. I still think using Windows XP in today's world outside of very extreme and edge cases is a bad idea but this stuff exists so I may as well be constructive rather than destructive. Obviously, @roytam1 is doing more than the shameful rebuilds for XP leeching off our names or whatever it was I said.. He is creating something unique as we have done.. SO I am committing my self to helping him succeed in whatever way I can contribute toward. That way we all get what we want and it isn't just an angry Tobin busting down the door looking for logos or whatnot. A real project or projects such as these deserve their own name and support from others just as ours do.. So that is why I am changing gears here. However, and you won't like this but if I feel the person in question is a moron I am gonna call them a moron regardless.. Call it a personality flaw. Though, that status can always be re-evaluated

Plus isn't Matt just using SeaMonkey and altering it into a browser-only product? By the way, everyone knows I'm not stuck on the continued use of XP. BUT .... BUT .... as it stands, native Seamonkey can still run on XP, can't it? Now if Borealis can't, then isn't Matt doing the same thing to the Mozilla code that he accuses Roytam1 of doing to Borealis and Interlink? Here's the way I see it. Even if I shake my head at those still using XP, I'm not going to put up intentional road-blocks, just to make life miserable for those people. So Matty Boy, why not just let Roytam1 continue compiling these applications for XP and Vista compatibility? Forget about "following the agreement to the LETTER"; what about exercising the spirit of the license. Think about it - other than your arrogant and hostile attitude, they ACTUALLY LIKE your work, and want to use it. How much bigger of a compliment can you get?

My school uses XP on their POS machines. Everything else is 7 or 10. And yes, the ThinkCentre is old enough to be (co-)branded IBM. There are still plenty of IBM POS systems floating around my area, but the screens were out of my sight.

I didn't. @WildBill is/was a very careful and thorough reverser, who took for himself the mission of porting to 2k all the patches MS was (and remains) denying it. He studied carefully each pach until he fully understood it, then made the port. His ports are safer even than MS's originals. He went even further and reversed kernell32.dll to the point he had a working compilable source he then made public, thus providing a precious source of information regarding what he found out about kernell32.dll to anyone carefull enough to read and meditate about his soure code. And also gave people his free PE tool. But you're wrong about one detail: @blackwingcat had been extending the 2k kernel some time before @WildBill began to release his own work, and IIRR, the 1st ever to extend the 2k kernel was @OldCigarette (whom, I'm sad to say, I'm even surer isn't among us anymore).

Ok, I've had time to update the repository with the January and February updates. Just in time, before Microsoft unleash the March ones. Replaced Monthly Rollup with the new KB4487023 (located on the root directory of the repository) Added Security Only Updates, KB4480957 and KB4487019 (located in the folder "/Security Only (Post August 2018)") Replaced Internet Explorer Cumulative Update with KB4486474 (located in the folder "/Security Only (Post August 2018)") Replaced .NET Framework Security and Quality with: -KB4483457 for .NET 2.0 SP2 (located in "/NET 2.0 SP2/Security and Quality Rollup") -KB4483455 for .NET 4.5.2 (located in "/NET 4.5.2/Security and Quality Rollup") -KB4483451 for .NET 4.6-4.6.1 (located in "/NET 4.6-4.6.1/Security and Quality Rollup") Added .NET Security Only Updates with: -KB4480084 and KB4483482 for .NET 2.0 SP2 (located in "/NET 2.0 SP2/Security Only") -KB4480076 and KB4483474 for .NET 4.5.2 (located in "/NET 4.5.2/Security Only") -KB4480072 and KB4483470 for .NET 4.6-4.6.1 (located in "/NET 4.6-4.6.1/Security Only") Added Extra updates KB4486459, KB4487354 and KB4490514 (located in "/Extras") with an updated readme file Funny enough, the timezone update KB4486459 does not replace the previous KB4468323. Also worth noting that KB4487354 in the extras folder is not needed if you install the Monthly Rollups. That is all for now https://mega.nz/#F!txxRyLzC!1vBMGzMHiL864f3bl1Rj1w EDIT: I've rearranged the repository for easier navigation. Now the pre-Monthly Rollup Security Updates are in a folder named "Security Updates (May 2017-August 2018)"

Thanks for the information, @Vistapocalypse! I think you'll enjoy today's changes... SUMMARY OF CHANGES TO THE LIST FOR MARCH 4, 2019: Added new link for the last version of Yandex Browser for Windows Vista and XP (thanks to @i430VX for providing it), as visiting the vendor's site no longer delivers a compatible installer for XP/Vista users. Added new category: DVR/PVR software. Added Windows Media Center with TV Pack 2008 and NextPVR to "DVR/PVR software" section. Added Piriform Recuva to "Hard Drive Utilities" section. That's strange; I have just updated to the latest definitions on my system today with no problems

Microsoft has shut down the Search Assistant. "ie.search.msn.com" now redirects to "bing.com" which doesn't support "srchasst\srchasst.htm" (or "srchcust.htm"). Scan your registry for the string "ie.search.msn.com" or "srchasst" and replace that URL with a new one of your choice such as "http://ie.search.yahoo.com/{sub_rfc1766}/srchasst/srchasst.htm". See: &tab; answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006043010329 (Alternately, you can install some mid-2000's malware and let it hijack the search assistant for you!)

New New Moon 27 Build! 32bit https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.6.win32-git-20190302-d0444154b-xpmod.7z 32bit SSE https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.6.win32-git-20190302-d0444154b-xpmod-sse.7z 32bit noSSE https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.6.win32-git-20190302-d0444154b-xpmod-ia32.7z 64bit https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.6.win64-git-20190302-d0444154b-xpmod.7z source repo: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27 repo changes since my last build: - import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1129223 - Remove local mozAfterRemotePaint events (a9aec8f51) - override -> MOZ_OVERRIDE (2de5b532c) - Bug 1129223 - Introduce new, more efficient mozLayerTreeReady event (9a363c950) - Bug 963921 - Clients of the JS API should use JS_DefineElement where appropriate (912f064c0) - Bug 1133746. Allow DOMProxyShadows to communicate to the JIT whether the shadowing is done by the expando object or not. (dbe537f12) (301eae9eb) - aboutDialog: always show build date (e2ac38931) - import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1112164 part 0 - PrintUse: Use AnyRegister::name method for printing the name of Fixed register uses. (996f68005) - Bug 1112164 part 1 - x86/x64 lowerForFPU: Do not reuse the input register if the MIRType are different. (8722bfc62) - Bug 1112164 part 2 - Rename ReturnSimdReg to ReturnInt32x4Reg and ReturnFloat32x4Reg. (158171a74) - Bug 1112164 part 3 - Add {Float,}Register::Encoding to represent what can be decoded from the assembly. (64a7488e8) - Bug 1112164 part 4 - SimdReinterpretCast: Do not use redefine as the MIRType of the input & output are different. (441077b2b) (e9a10fb1a) - configure: remove restriction of redist DLL location (ba8924b6e) - import changes from rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - add X11 flags to allow building on NetBSD (72667df53) - Bug 1122856 - OdinMonkey: Split out the flag that says "bounds checks are unneeded because of signal handling" (36bb96c9e) - Bug 986981 - OdinMonkey: Optimize addresses with constant offsets on x86 and x64 (e0fd22c6e) - Bug 1138205 - use a reinterpret_cast instead of a static_cast after bug 986981, fixes build on OpenBSD/amd64. (5e1dd72a1) - Bug 1138180 - Make --disable-ion compilable again. (f835126ba) (d0444154b) * Notice: Due to a rewrite of git history, old git commit hashes are not matched. Please use corresponding commit message to search back the hash. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

+1 I certainly would not be in any hurry to appease anyone who comes in here making ever-more ridiculous demands and who displays such overt hostility toward your projects and this community on other websites. But you do as you see fit; if you feel that it's best to do whatever you can to settle the issue then by all means proceed as you have been. The absurdity of all of this is mind boggling. Most normal people who write a piece of software or code wish to be credited for their work, and here instead we have Matt Tobin who is so disgruntled by the fact that someone else dares to revert some changes he made to a piece of open-source software that he didn't even write in the first place that he throws a temper tantrum, removes his project code from the public, and screams like a child until someone gives him what he wants. And what does he want? His "name" removed from these forked builds, because he might accidentally have his name associated with "us", the unwashed, the untouchables, the Luddites; in other words those who dare to disagree with his worldview. Sad.

@roytam1 Personally, if I were you, I would remove all references in your packages and compilations to Matt A Tobin and his work. He's not worth your aggravation!!!

With all due respect to the author(s) of the Binary Outcast source code and the Trademark holders of related application names and artwork, the referenced "site" provides binaries compiled from forked code, code forked from the official Binary Outcast one; even in GitHub, when you fork a repository the forked repository contains at least one reference to the original repository in the form of a link to that one... So, in practical terms, what's the great harm if the original author/official brand name the derived product is based on is mentioned just once just to inform consumers of the products they're about to download? You mentioned in one of your earlier posts the possibility of "confusing" users; I'd certainly be confused under that scenario (i.e. when no info is provided about the hosted product). Under your same logic, the Waterfox browser people should make no mention whatsoever to Mozilla and/or Firefox, the platform/app they forked from; but they do, in fact, include the following disclaimer in all of their website pages (including the download page): Are they too acting in bad faith and/or in an illegal fashion? How is this different to @roytam1 having the following disclaimer: Apologies, I am not a native English speaker, so i had to look up "snarky" : https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snarky How you'd go and describe Roy's "actions" as "snarky" and "backhanded" is completely beyond me (???) ; all that was done was to comply to the wishes/suggestions expressed in the linked MSFN forum post; well, the screengrab of that post was added for "posterity", you know, because posts can always be edited (just like "your coneys" was subdued to "your people"; BTW, I am noone's "people", I pride in not following "flocks" but make my own mind on things in both real and digital life...). I acknowledge several legal issues were raised with regards to the BinOC forked products (this is all very apparent to me now) and, as unpleasant as legal issues may be, these DO have to be addressed properly; this should have been conducted in an amicable manner, instead it has escalated into a Cold War Era confrontation, where each party is wary of the other and one party in particular is trigger happy, ready to push the "Nuke'em All!" red button... At the end of the day, while the lawyers might be satisfied, all that remains for mere mortals is the hostility and bitterness in the atmosphere - in the long run, this is detrimental to everyone... Regards

Just saying ... https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-new-study-shows-home-edition-users-are-baffled-by-updates/ https://insider.windows.com/en-us/articles/were-listening-to-you/ Mission Status: FAILED jaclaz

Nope. Delusions of grandeur. Guess what. A judge or jury would be the one "deem reasonable" in this case if it ever came to court. Aside from that, given in this case that you are already perfectly able to and actively "digitally distributing" the executable form, then I don't believe any judge or jury would look favorably on you purposely creating arbitrary "obstacles" in the way of accessing the source code, which could be construed as an "attempt to alter or restrict the recipients’ rights" as prohibited in Section 3.1. Also, returning to the first point, given that literally thousands of open-source programs (and even entire operating systems) today are perfectly capable of providing digital distribution of their sources, I see no reason why a judge or jury should entertain the idea of providing an exception for you. And, even in the end, if you were somehow able to pull that off, I'll pledge $100 right now toward the cost of creating more work and annoyance for you. Remember me when you're making trips to the post office.

If you and moonchild did a better job, then there would be no need for unofficial versions... Step your game up or get out of the wayyyyy.......

Hi. Now 2.9f and 2.9g (perlhaps test version 2.9h, too) have critical problems. * Certain security softwares collide with extended kernel. (It is almost resolved) * Chromium and Firefox based web browser will freeze. Regrettably I don't release English version untill fixed them. You may believe that Japanese only version is Beta Test :3 It may be released in March. You know the following article comes for correction problem reasons http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1979072.html

@FranceBB @jumper @someguy25 @i430VX @VistaLover @rloew @Dibya @I41Mar @Mathwiz @aviator @RED-CHAMBER @Tamris @CoRoNe SOLVED! Thank you all for your troubleshooting and input. After installing a fresh Dell OEM copy of Windows XP on my Inspiron 1420, and "one step at a time" trial and error, I discovered the missing culprit: Visual Studio 2013 (VS2013): https://download.microsoft.com/download/2/E/6/2E61CFA4-993B-4DD4-91DA-3737CD5CD6E3/vcredist_x86.exe I tried several different things, one at a time. Once I installed this package, Audacity 2.3.1 immediately began working. I'm thankful for this Audacity thread which helped me FINALLY discover the culprit: https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?p=272186#p272186 Note, my Dell XP copy is SP3 RTM with IE6. So, no further updates to Windows XP or IE are needed.

2.2 is out! https://github.com/rn10950/RetroZilla/releases/tag/2.2 Edit: It turns out that Github is refusing connections from RetroZilla 2.1, so it is impossible to download RetroZilla 2.2 using RetroZilla 2.1 (and I assume any official Mozilla release for 9x and NT4 as well as IE6). This issue will only affect 2.1 and below, as the security suite was updated in 2.2 (thanks @roytam1). I will look further to see if there is a way to access github using HTTP, or find an alternative host for the 2.2 binaries. There will be no way to change this in existing 2.1 installations, so consider the updater for 2.1 a notifier. Edit 2: Link that works in RetroZilla 2.1: http://www.filedropper.com/retrozilla-22en-uswin32installer

Sorry for the delay, but here is a new BCrypt.dll I wrote three days ago with a fully functioning BCryptGenRandom: From http://www.geocities.ws/jumper: BCrypt.dll replacement library (with C source) [7z] BCrypt.7z - 4KB (C) BCryptGenRandom calls RtlGenRandom (aka SystemFunction036) as implemented by the KernelEx project.

One thing I still use my vintage Vista system for is watching and recording TV, and I wonder if the list needs a DVR/PVR category. (Of course there are hardware requirements: a suitable TV tuner of some sort, but hardware is OT here.) Vista Home Premium and Ultimate included Windows Media Center, which in most cases was not really different from Windows XP Media Center Edition. Some later Vista systems shipped with TV Pack 2008, which was almost equivalent to Windows 7's Media Center. (The first page or two of a 2015 Green Button thread might be of interest to some Vista users.) Of course Media Center with TV Pack is only supported insofar as Microsoft/Rovi are still providing electronic program guide data, which might end when support for Windows 7 ends. For those who are running Vista Basic or Business, or who wouldn't dare to download TV Pack from a third party, or who have TV Pack but are dissatisfied with Rovi's North American EPG data, or who want something that can be used as a "back end" for Kodi (formerly XBMC), one alternative is NextPVR. I recently installed the current 4.2.3 version of NextPVR on Vista, and I'm very satisfied with it. This was the first time I had a reason to install .NET Framework 4.6, which is now a prerequisite. The 4.2.3 installer will install Visual C++ 2017 for you. Newbies may find this software to be not very user-friendly, but MSFN members generally seem to be the kind of users who could handle it. You may have to download one or more decoders, e.g. in North America you are going to need an AC3 audio decoder (perhaps AC3Filter or LAV). Unfortunately there is no free guide data for North America beyond the several hours' worth that can be obtained from over-the-air ATSC broadcasts, so a Schedules Direct subscription is highly desirable.