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Vistapocalypse

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  1. Kodi can reportedly serve as a "front end" for NextPVR and other DVR software, among other uses. I never used Kodi before, and frankly don't know of any reason why I would want to, but curiosity recently got the better of me. The download link for Kodi 17.3 under Content Consumption Software in the list appears to be broken. Kodi has stated that 18.x does not support Vista, but there is a 17.6 at http://mirrors.kodi.tv/releases/windows/win32/, so I decided to give it a try. The installer soon gave me an error message: Some of you are probably thinking, "Vistapocalypse never installed Platform Update, LOL. Probably doesn't know how to solve why has vista stopped automatic updates, LOL." Not so fast: True, if I search for KB971644 in Installed Updates, it cannot be found; but that is because Platform Update's four components are listed separately there: Could it be that Kodi's last Vista-compatible installers were never tested on Vista? There are numerous Kodi "support" threads indicating that hapless Vista users were the beta testers. and that this issue affected all 17.x versions. The solution was found here: run the installer in compatibility mode for Windows XP SP2, and it works! Here is a screenshot of Kodi 17.6 playing a .ts file: Of course I could have played that old recording in NextPVR or VLC anyway. I did not take the time to figure out how to send live TV from NPVR to Kodi, but I have no doubt that it could be done. The developers devoted a great many words to saying Goodbye Windows Vista, but I dislike long goodbyes. Goodbye Kodi. Thanks for making an uninstaller that does not require Platform Update.
  2. One thing I still use my vintage Vista system for is watching and recording TV, and I wonder if the list needs a DVR/PVR category. (Of course there are hardware requirements: a suitable TV tuner of some sort, but hardware is OT here.) Vista Home Premium and Ultimate included Windows Media Center, which in most cases was not really different from Windows XP Media Center Edition. Some later Vista systems shipped with TV Pack 2008, which was almost equivalent to Windows 7's Media Center. (The first page or two of a 2015 Green Button thread might be of interest to some Vista users.) Of course Media Center with TV Pack is only supported insofar as Microsoft/Rovi are still providing electronic program guide data, which might end when support for Windows 7 ends. For those who are running Vista Basic or Business, or who wouldn't dare to download TV Pack from a third party, or who have TV Pack but are dissatisfied with Rovi's North American EPG data, or who want something that can be used as a "back end" for Kodi (formerly XBMC), one alternative is NextPVR. I recently installed the current 4.2.3 version of NextPVR on Vista, and I'm very satisfied with it. This was the first time I had a reason to install .NET Framework 4.6, which is now a prerequisite. The 4.2.3 installer will install Visual C++ 2017 for you. Newbies may find this software to be not very user-friendly, but MSFN members generally seem to be the kind of users who could handle it. You may have to download one or more decoders, e.g. in North America you are going to need an AC3 audio decoder (perhaps AC3Filter or LAV). Unfortunately there is no free guide data for North America beyond the several hours' worth that can be obtained from over-the-air ATSC broadcasts, so a Schedules Direct subscription is highly desirable.
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    Latest Version of Software Running on XP

    The last version of NextPVR compatible with XP was 4.0.5, released in December 2017. (You would need a suitable TV tuner to make much use of this software, which is similar to Media Center.) Beginning with 4.1.0 (March 2018), it requires .NET Framework 4.6. If anyone posted this news at the time, it would have been lost due to the MSFN server crash at the beginning of June 2018.
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    Can Office 2013 somehow be ported to Vista?

    Some details were given in a November 2018 thread on the same topic: https://msfn.org/board/topic/177934-install-office-2013-on-windows-vista/?do=findComment&comment=1156349. If OP has Win7+, problem solved.
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    IE9 doesnt play youtube videos anymore???

    Cooperation from XP enthusiasts might be helpful in many cases, but in this case has resulted in confusion. IE9 does at least support HTML5 (but not MSE), IE8 of course does not. I can't seem to find an official YouTube statement regarding final deprecation of Flash Player, but know of no reason to disagree with the OP of this thread. Support for Chrome Frame ended 5 years ago. When it comes to my own vintage Vista system, Chrome Frame would be as unwelcome as an Alien facehugger. The obvious workaround is to use a different browser for YouTube, but +1 for wishing this wasn't necessary.
  6. Welcome to the wonderful world of Windows Vista, sdfox7. Certainly anyone who follows Server 2008 Updates on Windows Vista is aware that the cumulative updates for IE9 are compatible with Vista, although we probably have members and visitors who haven't bothered with all that, Did you get Windows Update to deliver all the post-SP2 updates for Vista as explained here? IE9 kinda needs Platform Update, and there were circa 200 security updates. As you know from your expertise with XP, it is possible to add support for TLS 1.1 and 1.2. VistaLover wrote a tutorial: Enabling TLS 1.1/1.2 support in Vista's Internet Explorer 9 . However, if that Inspiron is running Vista x64, then VistaLover's instructions might be missing something (see here).
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    Is it possible to get Adobe Reader DC working on Windows XP?

    Dave-H, would you mind testing the 11.0.23 plugin with IE8, if you haven't already done so? Looks like @jumper scrutinized the Changes to base system requirements link I posted earlier and is concerned about support for IE8. If there really is an issue, then a slightly earlier 11.x version might be advisable for IE diehards. (Note: 11.0.22 was noncumulative, so one would have to apply 11.0.21 first.)
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    Is it possible to get Adobe Reader DC working on Windows XP?

    That's good to know. (It also works on Vista.) OP should note that the 11.0.23 patch in your link was released in November 2017, so "2016 or newer" is satisfied; and Acrobat Reader DC has been less popular anyway.
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    Is it possible to get Adobe Reader DC working on Windows XP?

    Support for Windows XP was dropped beginning with Adobe Reader 11.0.09 (Changes to base system requirements). WinClient5270 posted a YouTube tutorial explaining how to install Acrobat Reader DC on Windows Vista, but unfortunately stated in a pinned comment, "Note: this does NOT work with Windows XP. The DLL wrappers are compatible with Windows Vista or Windows Server 2008 (original release) only, making this method unviable on Windows XP" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkjzWT3uEa0).
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    IE10, Chrome 51, Firefox 54, WMP 12, Office 2013....

    Your link basically says that Slimjet is as bad as Chrome (perhaps a bit worse). If Chrome contains "spyware," then a browser containing spyware now has 63 percent market share. OP yoltboy01 evidently likes Chrome very much, and would go to great lengths just to use a slightly different but still obsolete version released in 2016. Personally, I would never recommend "Advanced Chrome."
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    MSE For Vista Now Shows XP Nag Screens

    If Microsoft announces a grace period for MSE users on Windows 7, as they once did for Windows XP (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15344/microsoft-antimalware-support-for-windows-xp) but not for Vista, that would of course be useful information to anyone hoping to use MSE 4.4 on Vista or XP for more than one year. Otherwise, I would still assume that MSE definition updates will end on January 14, 2020. Meanwhile, MSE users on the supposedly unsinkable Windows 7 should expect to see the amber warnings that were originally the topic of this thread beginning in October - unless they downgrade to MSE 4.4 to avoid that indignity.
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    MSE For Vista Now Shows XP Nag Screens

    Unwanted MSE client upgrades are only possible if Windows Update is set to "Install updates automatically," hence no real need for any registry change on Vista. If you check for Windows updates manually and are offered an MSE upgrade, you can simply Hide the update. I don't think there will ever be another MSE upgrade: version 4.10.209.0 is already more than 2 years old and support for Windows 7 will end in January 2020. I would presume that MSE definition updates will also end at that time, although some bright person might perhaps devise a way to convert Windows Defender updates.
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    IE10, Chrome 51, Firefox 54, WMP 12, Office 2013....

    Hello yoltboy01, I share your fondness for Windows Vista, but the obvious answer to your desires is to buy a Windows 7 product key and upgrade (except the browser versions you mention are very old for use on Windows 7). Chrome is not a developer's project. As you already know, developers were able to backport a few open-source Chromium versions that did not support Vista. I tried Slimjet 11 and 12 (based on Chromium 51 and 53 respectively) on Vista x86 when they were new, back in 2016. If no developer's project is satisfactory to you, then you could always become a developer yourself. Regarding IE10 for Vista, see https://msfn.org/board/topic/176927-internet-explorer-10-on-vista/. Regarding Office 2013, see https://msfn.org/board/topic/177934-install-office-2013-on-windows-vista/. Regarding Firefox forks that are still being actively developed (including a build of Basilisk based on Firefox 55): https://msfn.org/board/topic/177125-my-build-of-new-moon-temp-name-aka-pale-moon-for-xp/.
  14. I'm not a Steamer, but this thread in the Windows XP forum has more to say: https://msfn.org/board/topic/177702-steam-for-xp-in-2019/.
  15. Regarding AV for Windows Vista: I never used it myself, but Vipre posted a Notice in February 2018 that version 11 would not support Vista, and their system requirements have since been modified to exclude Vista (support for XP having been dropped much earlier). If I believed in paying for antivirus protection, I might consider ESET or Webroot for Vista - but I wouldn't consider buying more than a 1-year license at this late date.
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