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I wasn't misleading anyone. I said "pluck some 100 Euro notes", not pluck ONE 100 Euro note," or even "pluck a few 100 Euro notes!" We're all well aware that the cost of a modern PC is more than a few 100-Euro notes. I figured the reader would know how many notes would have to be plucked! But quibbles over adjectives aside, I think we actually agree! My whole point was that there's no such thing as a money tree! Most of us actually have to work quite hard to earn enough money to buy a modern PC; thus it was quite arrogant for someone to respond to a complaint about a Web site being deliberately blocked from working on an older PC with "just go out and buy a new one," as if that were a trivial thing for anyone to do!

Hello Leokids123. You asked: "Can you disable your adblocker and enable Javascript?" Answer: Javascript is enabled in St52 when visiting Paypal. And this is the result when trying to sign in my Paypal account with ST52 and - hosts file adblocking disabled - DNS server adblocking disabled It is as NotHereToPlayGames said: "the SECURITY CHALLENGE CANNOT BE LOADED."

Hmm... Must have made a mistake. Try this.

Updated yt-dlp_x86 for Vista: link.

Under the BIOS PCI devices listing, both are shown as having IRQ 5. In Win98 device manager too, both still have the same IRQ 5. And yet now everything works perfectly. Very strange and I don't have the first idea what's going on. Another interesting thing - before when I played Hitman Contracts with EAX enabled (SB Audigy 2 ZS), after a while the sound would start tearing and repeating (as if some sound buffer underflow or overflow happened). After this IRQ steering related change, even that sound problem went away. As I said, very weird..

@SweetLow Hey man, thank you so much for giving me the hint of IRQ Steering. I looked it up online and found that IRQ steering settings can be found in PCI Bus device settings. So I went to pci bus properties in safe mode, then in settings tab, under Device enumeration, changed from "Use Hardware" option to "Use BIOS" option. Left the "Override Bridges" check box unchecked. Then in the IRQ Steering tab, I just unchecked the "Use IRQ Steering" check box (this also disabled all the sub-options: Get IRQ table using ACPI BIOS, Get IRQ table using MS Specification table and Get IRQ table from Real Mode PCIBIOS 2.1 call). Then after restarting, both the VGA driver and SMB via LAN access works perfectly. I admit I don't have the least bit of idea what those options meant. Maybe I only had to disable one or two things or suboptions. I'll test with games further and update here if anything got broken after my changes

Since I don't make changes directly in the source tree of my fork (I apply a few changes after cloning), I could try to apply 2 diff's with your proposed changes. Could you check if this is what you want (I left out the changes in README.md)? GvsPoTokenPolicy only set to false for HLS. StreamingProtocol.HLS: GvsPoTokenPolicy( required=False, recommended=True, ),

Do you have working PCI IRQ Steering? Do you use jumbo frames on this device,? And yes, I have to note that you didn't share the results of your previous problem solving...

I'm still working on this. I found my old Pentium 133 Windows 95 system and have downloaded some alternate builds of Pidgin and GTK+2. The rev-a version seems to be the mistake; the original GTK 2.6.10 was the last build for 95 except for a special build of 2.14.4. Google "gtk+2 win95-compatible version" AI Overview:

Not me. I've never understood that. I'm still using a 10-year old 4G phone. People like you describe act as if they actually have money trees, throwing away an over-$1000 piece of equipment every 2-3 years just because there's an even more expensive version out! Because that's how the World Wide Web was designed to work, that's why! The original idea behind HTML was that, no matter how many fancy bells and whistles were added later on, a Web page should still look the same to folks using a browser that didn't support the new bells and whistles. The page may be slow and look like one of those ugly pages from the '80's, but it's still supposed to work. (And for the most part, the WWW really did work that way for its first couple of decades.) I know we got away from that ideal long ago, but I still think it's an ideal worth striving for, rather than Discourse (or whoever) shutting you out of their sites completely because your browser/OS doesn't support all the HTML features they think they might want to use someday. Someone once told me there's a difference between dealing with organic change like the shifting seasons, and the change forced on you by someone who is whipping you forward like a drover, toward a destination of their choosing, not yours. You misunderstand the situation. We don't get to choose whether to use "old school" or "new school" methods! If the Web designer used the "old school" method of sniffing the UA (e.g., chase.com), then we have to use the corresponding "old school" method of spoofing the UA just to get in! Of course, we often have to use "new school" methods as well, like those built into a Web browser like R3dfox or Supermium, or the site will likely not work well (see above) but that doesn't mean we can ignore UA spoofing just because it's considered "old school."

Thanks! My dads StartAllBack is now licensed.

I kind of have to "disagree". We live in a world where everybody above the age of SIXTEEN or so (except me, I do not own a mobile phone!) will "upgrade" their PHONE every two to three and a half years, IF NOT MORE FREQUENTLY! Seriously, why in *H#LL* should we, the consumer, "demand" a web site function on a PC that is MORE THAN FOUR OR FIVE TIMES OLD when the owner of that web site KNOWS D#MN WELL that the consumer ALSO OWNS A PHONE ???

I can confirm that the IOS formats still work to this day without supplying a PO Token string, at least for non-live YT content: yt-dlp --extractor-args "youtube:player_client=ios" -vf 270+234 -N 6 "O5TS2CbBhKo" [debug] Command-line config: ['--ffmpeg-location', '<redacted>\\youtube-dl\\FFmpeg', '--downloader-args', 'ffmpeg:-v 8 -stats', '--extractor-args', 'youtube:player_client=ios', '-vf', '270+234', '-N', '6', 'O5TS2CbBhKo'] Deprecated Feature: Support for Python version 3.9 has been deprecated. Please update to Python 3.10 or above [debug] Encodings: locale cp1253, fs utf-8, pref cp1253, out utf-8 (No VT), error utf-8 (No VT), screen utf-8 (No VT) [debug] yt-dlp version nicolaasjan/yt-dlp@2025.08.20.060440 (win32_dir) [debug] Python 3.9.13 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 (OpenSSL 1.1.1w 11 Sep 2023) [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg n6.1-dev-2615-N-112499-ga76b409 (setts), ffprobe n6.1-dev-2615-N-112499-ga76b409 [debug] Optional libraries: Cryptodome-3.23.0, brotli-1.1.0, certifi-2025.08.03, mutagen-1.47.0, requests-2.32.4, sqlite3-3.37.2, urllib3-2.5.0, websockets-15.0.1 [debug] Proxy map: {} [debug] Request Handlers: urllib, requests, websockets [debug] Plugin directories: none [debug] Loaded 1839 extractors [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Providers: none [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Cache Providers: memory [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Cache Spec Providers: webpo [youtube] Extracting URL: O5TS2CbBhKo [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading webpage [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading ios player API JSON [debug] [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: ios client https formats require a GVS PO Token which was not provided. They will be skipped as they may yield HTTP Error 403. You can manually pass a GVS PO Token for this client with --extractor-args "youtube:po_token=ios.gvs+XXX". For more information, refer to https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/PO-Token-Guide . To enable these broken formats anyway, pass --extractor-args "youtube:formats=missing_pot" [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading m3u8 information [debug] Sort order given by extractor: quality, res, fps, hdr:12, source, vcodec, channels, acodec, lang, proto [debug] Formats sorted by: hasvid, ie_pref, quality, res, fps, hdr:12(7), source, vcodec, channels, acodec, lang, proto, size, br, asr, vext, aext, hasaud, id [info] Testing format 270 [download] Sleeping 6.00 seconds as required by the site... [hlsnative] Downloading m3u8 manifest [hlsnative] Total fragments: 45 [download] Destination: <redacted>\2025.08.20.60440[VistaEoL]\yt-dlp_py39_x86_Vista_onedir\tmpefmf2acs.tmp [debug] File locking is not supported. Proceeding without locking [download] 100% of 684.80KiB in 00:00:03 at 190.65KiB/s [info] Testing format 234 [hlsnative] Downloading m3u8 manifest [hlsnative] Total fragments: 45 [download] Destination: <redacted>\2025.08.20.60440[VistaEoL]\yt-dlp_py39_x86_Vista_onedir\tmpklhwl68j.tmp [download] 100% of 85.49KiB in 00:00:00 at 240.81KiB/s [info] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading 1 format(s): 270+234 [debug] Invoking hlsnative downloader on "https://manifest.googlevideo.com/api/manifest/hls_playlist/expire/1758487269/ei/hQ7QaPO9LYWahcIPjPHD0QM/ip/redacted/id/3b94d2d826c184aa/itag/270/source/youtube/requiressl/yes/ratebypass/yes/pfa/1/sgovp/clen%3D70853892%3Bdur%3D240.833%3Bgir%3Dyes%3Bitag%3D137%3Blmt%3D1746948976091491/rqh/1/hls_chunk_host/rr3---sn-4vguioxu-n3bl.googlevideo.com/xpc/EgVo2aDSNQ%3D%3D/met/1758465669,/mh/yJ/mm/31,29/mn/sn-4vguioxu-n3bl,sn-nv47lnsr/ms/au,rdu/mv/m/mvi/3/pl/18/rms/au,au/initcwndbps/1235000/bui/ATw7iSV_YS72GHNfobiXeJrmuWQRFLz3FoDYouFmm2Q9wIreg41H4rztQjVAmpYzwLmz_VnwsxtPkDaO/spc/hcYD5XitMHHlZg_xF73VMUq2RrPkDtQdXPmkW8Hhn2SLNLZwydZk-Dmz07CrUTO7/vprv/1/playlist_type/DVR/dover/13/txp/5319224/mt/1758465242/fvip/4/short_key/1/keepalive/yes/fexp/51552689,51565115,51565681,51580968/sparams/expire,ei,ip,id,itag,source,requiressl,ratebypass,pfa,sgovp,rqh,xpc,bui,spc,vprv,playlist_type/sig/AJfQdSswRQIhALhXdXZkAmE7g4Z4_EgcYMniOkFycU5zuN3mEWILkAbPAiASJbP8PiIRLGXkmasLAYlV3cGalnknZdkAcTafLg0YAg%3D%3D/lsparams/hls_chunk_host,met,mh,mm,mn,ms,mv,mvi,pl,rms,initcwndbps/lsig/APaTxxMwRQIhAJ8DVEKSmJcwfp_UhLuA5TWdA76-8hLfzmwlCDAft8HjAiAiremKIHE528NiUf2bzY1vHmTE6qTE09cnwnt18SlVNw%3D%3D/playlist/index.m3u8" [hlsnative] Downloading m3u8 manifest [hlsnative] Total fragments: 45 [download] Destination: Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].f270.mp4 [download] 100% of 69.69MiB in 00:01:29 at 795.36KiB/s [debug] Invoking hlsnative downloader on "https://manifest.googlevideo.com/api/manifest/hls_playlist/expire/1758487269/ei/hQ7QaPO9LYWahcIPjPHD0QM/ip/redacted/id/3b94d2d826c184aa/itag/234/source/youtube/requiressl/yes/ratebypass/yes/pfa/1/goi/133/sgoap/clen%3D3899667%3Bdur%3D240.907%3Bgir%3Dyes%3Bitag%3D140%3Blmt%3D1746948952157345/rqh/1/hls_chunk_host/rr3---sn-4vguioxu-n3bl.googlevideo.com/xpc/EgVo2aDSNQ%3D%3D/met/1758465669,/mh/yJ/mm/31,29/mn/sn-4vguioxu-n3bl,sn-nv47lnsr/ms/au,rdu/mv/m/mvi/3/pl/18/rms/au,au/initcwndbps/1235000/bui/ATw7iSV_YS72GHNfobiXeJrmuWQRFLz3FoDYouFmm2Q9wIreg41H4rztQjVAmpYzwLmz_VnwsxtPkDaO/spc/hcYD5XitMHHlZg_xF73VMUq2RrPkDtQdXPmkW8Hhn2SLNLZwydZk-Dmz07CrUTO7/vprv/1/playlist_type/DVR/dover/13/txp/5318224/mt/1758465242/fvip/4/short_key/1/keepalive/yes/fexp/51552689,51565115,51565681,51580968/sparams/expire,ei,ip,id,itag,source,requiressl,ratebypass,pfa,goi,sgoap,rqh,xpc,bui,spc,vprv,playlist_type/sig/AJfQdSswRQIgdPOwtK4mbupwqiZ8pv2k9eOssn0NAajOdnMgB6ALDoACIQCadC6_b_5p64mwprXLRObgdNlTj2TQyIoBklDsdnPP9w%3D%3D/lsparams/hls_chunk_host,met,mh,mm,mn,ms,mv,mvi,pl,rms,initcwndbps/lsig/APaTxxMwRgIhAN16Z2-BpuDH8V9O3omjAFdhR7QMOi3pZAE4cBURjoE1AiEA-cqkk5eJf1-9TIR-1FPMUC1sIYujyXNiqgg8uYFr9Dc%3D/playlist/index.m3u8" [hlsnative] Downloading m3u8 manifest [hlsnative] Total fragments: 45 [download] Destination: Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].f234.mp4 [download] 100% of 3.75MiB in 00:00:05 at 758.19KiB/s [debug] ffmpeg command line: <redacted>\FFmpeg\ffprobe -show_streams "file:Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].f234.mp4" [Merger] Merging formats into "Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].mp4" [debug] ffmpeg command line: <redacted>\FFmpeg\ffmpeg -y-loglevel repeat+info -i "file:Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].f270.mp4" -i "file:Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].f234.mp4" -c copy -map 0:v:0 -map 1:a:0 -bsf:a:0 aac_adtstoasc -movflags +faststart "file:Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo].temp.mp4" Deleting original file Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo]. f270.mp4 (pass -k to keep) Deleting original file Love and Money - Halleluiah Man (HQ Audio) [O5TS2CbBhKo]. f234.mp4 (pass -k to keep) ... whereas in more recent yt-dlp versions, the IOS formats are skipped without supplying a PO Token string: [debug] Command-line config: ['--ffmpeg-location', '<redacted>\\FFmpeg', '--downloader-args', 'ffmpeg:-v 8 -stats', '--extractor-args', 'youtube:player_client=ios', '-vf', '270+234', '-N', '6', 'O5TS2CbBhKo'] [debug] Encodings: locale cp1253, fs utf-8, pref cp1253, out utf-8 (No VT), error utf-8 (No VT), screen utf-8 (No VT) [debug] yt-dlp version nicolaasjan/yt-dlp@2025.09.17.084413 (win_x86_dir) [debug] Python 3.11.4 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 (OpenSSL 3.5.2 5 Aug 2025) [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg n6.1-dev-2615-N-112499-ga76b409 (setts), ffprobe n6.1-dev-2615-N-112499-ga76b409 [debug] Optional libraries: Cryptodome-3.23.0, brotli-1.1.0, certifi-2025.08.03, mutagen-1.47.0, requests-2.32.5, sqlite3-3.50.4, urllib3-2.5.0, websockets-15.0.1 [debug] Proxy map: {} [debug] Request Handlers: urllib, requests, websockets [debug] Plugin directories: none [debug] Loaded 1833 extractors [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Providers: none [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Cache Providers: memory [debug] [youtube] [pot] PO Token Cache Spec Providers: webpo [youtube] Extracting URL: O5TS2CbBhKo [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading webpage [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Downloading ios player API JSON WARNING: [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: ios client https formats require a GVS PO Token which was not provided. They will be skipped as they may yield HTTP Error 403. You can manually pass a GVS PO Token for this client with --extractor-args "youtube:po_token=ios.gvs+XXX". For more information, refer to https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/PO-Token-Guide WARNING: [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: ios client hls formats require a GVS PO Token which was not provided. They will be skipped as they may yield HTTP Error 403. You can manually pass a GVS PO Token for this client with --extractor-args "youtube:po_token=ios.gvs+XXX". For more information, refer to https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/PO-Token-Guide WARNING: Only images are available for download. use --list-formats to see them [debug] Sort order given by extractor: quality, res, fps, hdr:12, source, vcodec, channels, acodec, lang, proto [debug] Formats sorted by: hasvid, ie_pref, quality, res, fps, hdr:12(7), source, vcodec, channels, acodec, lang, proto, size, br, asr, vext, aext, hasaud, id ERROR: [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Requested format is not available. Use --list-formats for a list of available formats Traceback (most recent call last): File "yt_dlp\YoutubeDL.py", line 1668, in wrapper File "yt_dlp\YoutubeDL.py", line 1824, in __extract_info File "yt_dlp\YoutubeDL.py", line 1883, in process_ie_result File "yt_dlp\YoutubeDL.py", line 3023, in process_video_result yt_dlp.utils.ExtractorError: [youtube] O5TS2CbBhKo: Requested format is not available. Use --list-formats for a list of available formats I'm a proponent of the "The more the merrier" adage , so perhaps @nicolaasjan could partially revert the upstream commit 895e762 (e.g. re-instate the IOS player_client into the default set (reverting GvsPoTokenPolicy to False), but also keep the new tv_simply client - affords ONLY dash formats), to keep his esteemed compatriot (and, possibly, others) happier? This modification (shouldn't be that hard, I feel) can be revisited if/when YT actually, completely, block IOS format download without a POT; just my 2 eurocents, ofc ...

I'd estimate that upwards of 75% of new CSS and Javascript features fall into that category. I wish I could say "unbelievable," but the arrogance of some folks is totally believable. Just go out to your money tree and pluck off some 100 Euro (or whatever your local currency is) notes, and hand them to your local PC dealer. Doesn't everyone have a money tree? And even if you're willing to spend the money, does anyone have any idea how much work goes into making your PC, well, personal? No, they want you to just throw that old PC in the rubbish and start customizing your new PC from scratch - with a new OS version that removes support for much of the personalization that Win 7 lets us do. You will have the Win 10/11 "look" whether you like it or not! Because Micro$oft says so!

I do apologize, I'd love to follow the path jumper has started, and or research rebuilding/test alternative run-times/applications. I don't need Pidgen (prefer IRC/BBS[Mystic]/Hotline/KDX), but I enjoy working this kind of thing out. Access to my.... Retro machines? is limited, and free time is gobbled up. Supposedly, this winter will improve the situation (for awhile). @jumper has again stepped up as an upstanding member of the community. Several members here are quite inspirational to me; and I am glad they so willing help other.

https://www.startisback.com/#buy-tab - Below the ‘Buy Now’ button, there is a ‘pay directly by card’ section that redirects you to the Gumroad site for the purchase transaction. -> https://startisback.gumroad.com/l/sib1

Curious how to do it. Winntsetup keeps failing when I try.

Yes, form the user perspective it does the same thing, it works a little bit different however as it doesn't replace system files and instead injects custom extending files into processes. And is available for Vista and 7, instead of just Vista as the original extended kernel was

No. I just took the time to find it. It is Intel VMD (Volume Management Device), which is directly related to VROC on servers but Intel has been including this feature in their mobile chipsets where it really doesn't serve a purpose. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000101179/memory-and-storage/datacenter-storage-solutions.html

98, SE, and ME do have VirtualAllocEx, only 95 doesn't. Use ImportPatcher or Dependency Walker to find all missing functions. If there are only a few, I can write a wrapper.

NotHereToPlayGames said: "Both results are TECHNICALLY THE SAME! ie, the SECURITY CHALLENGE CANNOT BE LOADED." Hello roytam1, when trying to access my Paypal account with the latest St52 (2025-08-21), I have to confirm NotHereToPlayGames: And now for NM28 (2025-08-21) with the same PC and the same system settings: That's obviously a difference ! NM28 works with Paypal and St52 won't. WHY ?

I now get this with both of my ISP's. ie, both land on the slide mouse page, both get the green box that the slide mouse page PASSED, but then both end up being blocked with "We couldn't load the security challenge."

Okay, well, I can report that the Restore Session page **IS** working in the most-recent version of Serpent v52. I terminated via Task Manager ten consecutive times and ALL TEN presented a populated windows/tabs table. In the past, two or three of those ten would *NOT* present the table, it would just open/restore my last session **WITHOUT** presenting the table - this is not a "functioning" feature. But I can not replicate this behavior with most-recent version, ALL TEN terminations function properly.

Hello NotHereToPlayGames, You said: "Newer versions of Serpent *do not work* on my end because Session Restore is a **MUST**. I have noted these Session Restore issues in the past and intermittent as they are in newer, I have *ZERO* problems with Session Restore in my older version." ------------------------------------------------------------ I have *ZERO* problems with Session Restore in my latest version of Serpent St52.

I'm afraid that I will have to decline from that experiment. My apologies. Newer versions of Serpent *do not work* on my end because Session Restore is a **MUST**. I have noted these Session Restore issues in the past and intermittent as they are in newer, I have *ZERO* problems with Session Restore in my older version. I have had way WAY too many updates over the years only to REVERT to the version that WORKS for me. Sorry, my version has to remain where it is. When I can no longer text and email from it, then I'll have to cross that bridge when I come to it. Until then, "long live my OLD Serpent". This version WORKS for me and NEWER versions do NOT. Not to sound too blunt, but I have lost interest in newer versions of Serpent all on account of SESSION RESTORE table of tabs/windows NOT POPULATING in newer versions. Again, intermittent as it is, the version that I use always ALWAYS **ALWAYS** populates the Session Restore table, so this is going to be my last version of Serpent until I see changelogs reflect Session Restore fixes.

For Palemoon/Newmoon maybe try the UnMHT extension (legacy extension): https://services.addons.thunderbird.net/en-gb/firefox/addon/unmht/versions/ Direct download for UnMHT: https://addons.thunderbird.net/firefox/downloads/file/662569/type:attachment/unmht-8.3.2-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi?src=version-history For Chromium/Chrome/Brave Browser/etc just save the webpage as MHTML. This option may have to be enabled inside the chrome://flags settings page. If you don't have the option to save a webpage as MHTML, then search for 'MHTML' in chrome://flags.

@awkduck Well, in theory it is possible if we had a team of expert software engineers and system programmers who know 9x in depth, who would dedicate their time to this problem. It is not a simple problem and would require modifying some vxds and dlls and adding new functionality. At first glance it may not look like that, and it may seem simple, but just look at kernel32.dll it is only 460kB, but its assembly code when disassembled is about 5.5MB. Also VMM.VXD is about 450kB but when disassembled it is about 2.5MB of assembly code. Similar applies to VWIN32.VXD and others. There would also be a problem with the shell, User32.dll and GDI32.dll and others which are not fully 32-bit but most of their most important functionality is actually 16-bit because 9x systems are hybrid. And many other important files that would have to be modified. And not just a small modification but a complete reengineering is required. That is a MASSIVE task and therefore it is not realistic to expect such a thing to happen in practice. But we can still use multiprocessors/multicores for, some calculations and such things...

Working at the now bankrupt captcha company that hired low wage poor educated individulas, and we see the result. But like I already wrote, they allowed me to get in only by guessing the word! It's strange to see people having troubles understanding simple sentences, even with the screenshot attached. Now I get a standard Google captcha (very simple!), But I only tried from work.

Just like Supermium, others have a huge memory leak and crashes, so I tested this one, no leak! Most likely due to the 32bit nature. https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Chromium-for-windows-7/releases/tag/136.0.7063.0 More info about the leak. https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/issues/1566

Thanks for the info! So you bought this patch from win32 ss? How fo you know it somewhat works? Or it's just rumours, hearsay?

Colour is spelt as colour in all countries, except one. You wrote, this forum is based in Europe, France to be precise, as we all know, and I always read what you write with attention. No one spells "color" in Europe, apart from (maybe, just my guess) some oldish people, like 90 or more, from the period of US/USSR occupation of Europe in 1945. But they can't join the forum, obviously, and any other generations of Europeans had learnt British English at school, like the rest of the World. "I mentioned but MSFN is based in Europe" https://msfn.org/board/topic/184809-alternative-location-for-discussing-msfns-status-if-msfn-is-offline/page/6/#findComment-1280862 Addition, the absence of articles points out to a foreigner working there.

Tripredacus, the user could be from a troublesome location, Nigeria, Russia, Uganda, whatever. I tried to make an account, they simply asked me for a word. I didn't even have to solve captchas. Though, there is an error in the word colour, a misspelling.

Wow! Then in just 3 days they've pushed some pretty significant changes. One of which is "[ie/youtube] Replace ios with tv_simply in default clients (#14123)", which is a real pity, because I prefer the ios HLS formats. They've now flagged these formats as requiring a PO token, which (as far as I can tell) isn't true, because the 2025.08.20.232911 version I was using still works just fine for these formats. Now I have to snatch a PO token for these to work.

Avidemux - https://avidemux.sourceforge.net/ Free program to work with video and audio. It is a free video editor designed for simple cutting, filtering and encoding tasks. The last XP version of it is hidden - avidemux_2.7.7 r210228_win32.exe Windows Executable 23 MB Feb 28 2021 2:43 PM You can download it here: https://avidemux.org/nightly/win32/ I tested it today with re-coding FullHD videofile of Saturday Night Live S50E20. The problem was that audio is E-AC3. And it need to be usual AC-3 or AAC for my TV and Blu-Ray player. With simple interface it recoded audio to AAC and didn't change video. And i got new saved file with same h.264 video and AAC audio. Took only several minutes. Good program.

@jumper Is the source code for these newer versions available? It's been over a year. KernelEx is supposed to be an open source project, and having the source is crucial to continue development.

I don't know about AI in search engines, but AI in general seems like one of those things that will corrupt already too corrupted mankind even further.

No, definitely not. You can' t use IE 6. IE 8 is needed exclusively to access MU web site. Or use WSUS server method if it is working in your system. Unfortunately, there is and will not be another solution. I gave you a lot of tips how to solve your problem. There is no more to say. IE 6 is outdated, unsupported and crap. Sorry, truth has to be told!

If IE 8 doesn't work in your XP system, then you have to reinstall from scratch. Usually IE 8 works in every XP system. If not, your Windows XP installation is faulty. Restoring access to MU needs updates relating to IE 8. Maybe the WSUS server method works, but I don't think so. Reinstall XP and use an offline update pack. Then restore MU and let it look for missing updates.

Welcome to the forum! At first you should provide information about your system. Which OS do you use i.e. from which operating system do you want to access WU using IE 6? And why IE 6? You should install the more recent version IE 8 if possible!

If you take the title of this thread so precisely, then your posts are logically off-topic. But as far as I can see, programs are also posted here that are still Windows XP compatible. But to be on-topic I have found a web site of Tracker Software containing the "latest" versions of their programs PDF-XChange Editor and Editor, PDF-XChange Standard Printer, PDF-Tools and PDF-XChange PRO. All programs are version 7.0.328.2. Version 8 and higher do not support Windows XP anymore. Here is the link: https://www.tracker-software.com/knowledgebase/399-Microsoft-has-Ended-Support-for-Windows-XP. Kind regards, AstroSkipper

You're welcome! Nice to hear that you liked it.

@Dave-H Maybe your Internet Explorer installation is faulty. Just a guess!

Here the DNS servers I suggested: Google Public DNS. 8.8.8.8. 8.8.4.4. and Cloudflare. 1.1.1.1. 1.0.0.1. Try them! And here's another fix referring to error code 0x80072f8f I have found while researching: Open in a registry editor the key HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\LastRestorePointSetTime. Here you can see a date and a time (that's my idea to find a suitable point in time). Now go back to this date and time plus for example one hour. Try to access MU. Reboot. Then adjust clock to current date and time. Do a synchronization. Reboot. Then try again! The idea is to go back in time to the last successful update on MU web site and try to access the MU server. Some people had success with turning back time to solve error code 0x80072f8f. And here a screenshot of my Internet Options - Advanced referring to HTTP settings: https://imgur.com/EHW7rix

@Dave-H Ok, thanks for further details! I have compared our lists of certificates intently. If you had compared our lists of certificates intently too you would have realized that only one of them is identical. And that is the list of certificates referring to Microsoft in Third Party Root Certification Authorities. But in my list of Intermediate Certification Authorities I have 8 certificates referring to Microsoft and you only 3. Have a look! That's a big difference. If wanted I can upload these missing certificates via PM so that you can import them under Intermediate Certification Authorities. As I told you two posts above expired certificates can still be required and in use too. At last I have analyzed your Windows Update Log once again. Here the interesting lines: 2022-02-01 22:53:27:781 1856 9b0 PT +++++++++++ PT: Synchronizing server updates +++++++++++ 2022-02-01 22:53:27:781 1856 9b0 PT + ServiceId = {7971F918-A847-4430-9279-4A52D1EFE18D}, Server URL = https://fe2.update.microsoft.com/v6/ClientWebService/client.asmx 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 Misc WARNING: Send failed with hr = 80072f8f. 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 Misc WARNING: SendRequest failed with hr = 80072f8f. Proxy List used: <https=localhost:8080> Bypass List used : <<local>> Auth Schemes used : <> 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 PT + Last proxy send request failed with hr = 0x80072F8F, HTTP status code = 0 . . . 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 PT WARNING: GetConfig failure, error = 0x80072F8F, soap client error = 5, soap error code = 0, HTTP status code = 200 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 PT WARNING: PTError: 0x80072f8f 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 PT WARNING: GetConfig_WithRecovery failed: 0x80072f8f 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 PT WARNING: RefreshConfig failed: 0x80072f8f 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 PT WARNING: RefreshPTState failed: 0x80072f8f 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 PT WARNING: Sync of Updates: 0x80072f8f 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 PT WARNING: SyncServerUpdatesInternal failed: 0x80072f8f 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 Agent * WARNING: Failed to synchronize, error = 0x80072F8F 2022-02-01 22:53:28:796 1856 9b0 Agent * WARNING: Exit code = 0x80072F8F As we already know Microsoft Update 0x80072f8f error code means ERROR_INTERNET_SECURE_FAILURE ErrorClockWrong. What does it really imply in your case? You can see it in your Windows Update Log. Look at bold text! A client fails to contact its server. In your case client is your computer and server is Microsoft Update Server. Request sent from your computer to MU failed. Synchronizing of client and server failed. Getting configurations failed. That' your problem. What is the conclusion? The connection and synchronization failures between client and server have to be fixed. At first we have to think about what we've already restored and fixed. The Windows Update Agent looks fine and you have reported that all steps of my post "Manually reset Windows Update components (KB971058)" have been performed: Have you performed step 4 too or have you skipped it as recommended? If you skipped step 4 then it should be catched up. Furthermore I added another registering of a DLL component: in step 6: Perform this registering to complete step 6. Now some settimgs: Go to IE Internet Options, Advanced and click to select the Use HTTP 1.1 and the Use HTTP 1.1 through proxy connections check boxes if not already selected. Next check if system service HTTP-SSL has system been started. If not start it and set it to Auto Start. Now reboot your computer, try to access MU again and post your Windows Update Log. If these tips don't solve the problem I have another one: Change your DNS servers to Cloudflare or Google and check if it helped. I use often DNS servers of Cloudflare but at the moment the servers of my provider. So far from me today!

@Dave-H I've read an interesting article of a person who had same error code and the solution was a missing certificate in a chain of certificates. Check if following certificate exists under Trusted Root Certification Authorities: GTE CyberTrust Global Root valid until 14.08.2018. I know it has expired but I've read that such expired certificates can still be in use. It's just a try. Furthermore I've found another tip that obviously others had helped: And one more question: Do you have a normal installation of XP or are you running it in a VM? Is your computer a clent or server in a network or a stand-alone one?

@Dave-H Yesterday I had trouble to access Google and other web sites using HTTPSProxy. What had happened? I checked and found out that HTTPSProxy's cacert.pem was faulty. I downloaded a new one manually from this link https://curl.se/ca/cacert.pem and copied it in HTTPSProxy's program folder. I deleted all certificates in certs folder and after starting the proxy I could access all sites without any problems. Updating cacert.pem in SysTray menu is working again. So what is the teaching of that? You have to check and deeply too. Comparing two files only due to size and date is not enough. A binary comparison is necessary or comparing hash values. You can do it for example with Total Commander. So download a fresh cacert.pem from link above and compare it to yours just to be sure your certs are valid and proper in your HTTPSProxy's program folder. Here is a screenshot of my Intermediate Certificate Authorities (there are Microsoft related certificates too): https://imgur.com/G2ogHnj I don't know if they are relevant, they seem to be expired. And here my Third Party Root Certificate Authorities: https://imgur.com/vY3dnq8 What is your current time server? And please upload a new WindowsUpdate.log! Maybe something has changed. A lot of Windows users have reported getting error code 0x80072f8f due to activation problems. So my next question. Is your Windows XP Professional properly activated? Do you have Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) Validation Tool installed and what is your version? As far as I know the latest version for XP is 1.9.40.0. And I know a lot of questions. Sorry!

This is very disturbing ... Don't mind my dark theme in the notepad . Got a good Vista aero theme from a kind MSFN member .

Jeez !! Just checked , it does the same for me !!! Keylogger in the browser !! Does it have something to do with MSFN ? Remember we both found NSFN tracking scripts ? BTW , I started to notice slowness when I type in the reply box . (keylogging, definitely !) Perhaps we need to ask the moderators , no ?

I think something's really wrong with your setup and choice of flags, settings (maybe even extensions?) . I don't observe such kind of behaviour in mine , no logged posts there ! I think you need to check.

I'm very touched you think of me , but honestly , don't bother and please don't waste your time . I have it already . I don't even remember where I got it . Some of the members gave it to me ? But it's working very good. So your powers could be saved for something more important like telemetry and speed. Thanks.