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Nice to see that UXP based browsers becoming a bit more useful again. Discord works to a big degree, pages like Github and Youtube work out of the box good enough and even the webmail page Tutanota can be accessed again. Hopefully some of the recent UXP killers can also be implemented, as there was recently a clear massive improvement in web compatibility again. UXP needs much more of that capable contributers to stay relevant! Let's see how long this will last

A reminder-link for those that may be interested -- https://msfn.org/board/topic/183484-polyfill-whats-all-this-then/?do=findComment&comment=1216125 Thanks again, @UCyborg

<OT> Yeah, I'm back and never intended to leave just needed a little break to clear the cobwebs and be a little less sensitive to certain threads and postings especially in the off topic. <OT>

... I used it there in the sense of "Opening/Original/First Post"; see e.g.: https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/op-meaning

And it means Original Poster, too.

Fine, sorry!

K7 and Seqrite have significant present in Eastern Europe specially Hungary , Greece and Poland & Japan USA and South East Asia as far my knowledge

Only window.structuredClone, but I don't think that version is spec compliant. MDN links to a more complex version, but it probably takes more than copy-paste to put in the browser.

Seems a rather simple polyfill gets this one going: if (typeof self.structuredClone !== "function") { self.structuredClone = function (value) { if (Array.isArray(value)) { const count = value.length; let arr = new Array(count); for (let i = 0; i < count; i++) { arr[i] = self.structuredClone(value[i]); } return arr; } else if (typeof value === "object") { let obj = {}; for (const prop in value) { obj[prop] = self.structuredClone(value[prop]); } return obj; } else { return value; } } } https://www.gloomycorner.com/javascript-troubleshooting-structuredclone-is-not-defined/ It's been added to my palefill-1.25.4.xpi (it's newer than martok's...also gets Facebook's messenger to load again with another fix...until it breaks sometime in the future). The polyfills like above also work when installed in the form of user script, just need the metadata, template is suggested by your favorite user script manager, just tell it to run on the problematic site and it should probably run at document-start.

... And I never implied you did anything wrong (thought to self: Why "web people" of this "era" are so "touchy" ? ) - I was directly replying to @Humming Owl, but I neglected (/deemed it superfluous) to tag him - well, now I have ...

Lol ....

Thank you, Mina, good to be back. Still not at my 100% yet but getting better every day I think.

@XPerceniol welcome back to MSFN

I'm sorry to hear that and I liked your posting but of course that sucks. Sometimes a break helps when things get out of focus. Also sometimes outside factors cause low moments but as you can see they do pass.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230318-3219d2d-uxp-85f6a4929-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20230318-3219d2d-uxp-85f6a4929-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230318-3219d2d-uxp-85f6a4929-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230318-d849524bd-uxp-85f6a4929-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230318-d849524bd-uxp-85f6a4929-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230318-d849524bd-uxp-85f6a4929-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win64-git-20230318-d849524bd-uxp-85f6a4929-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2135 - Follow-up: Check for aElement not being null (2249fbdf4) - Issue #2137 - Part 1: Modify :not() selector to accept a complex selector list (82fa9fb80) - Issue #2137 - Part 2: Implement SelectorParsingFlags and use it to pass info around (3bb3c193d) - Issue #2137 - Part 3: Don't always use the internal pseudo-class for handling negations (b257a71cc) - Issue #2137 - Part 4: Fix namespace regression (ef36c5659) - Issue #2135 - Destroy the host frame and restyle when there are content changes (18e693464) - Issue #2078 - Follow-up: Ensure empty selector lists aren't iterated when serialized (2be0261d5) - Issue #2046 - Follow-up: Fix deprot in RelativeTimeFormat. (77b618055) - Issue #80 - Fix deprot in js/ipc. (261dc37ad) - Issue #80 - Fix deprot in js/xpconnect. (0b039ff7a) - Issue #80 - Move implementation of CPOWTimer::CPOWTimer to header. (c2c95eff9) - No issue - Make content-type on JAR channels behave the same as HTTP channels (091a2aab8) - Issue #2046 - Follow-up: Fix deprot in builtin/intl (a2d6260cd) - Issue #2160 - Initial support for notarizing during DMG package. Added --with-macbundle-idenity configure option to set a codesign identity. If no identity is set or cross-compiling from Linux no codesigning will be done. Currently doing a full deep bundle v2 sign, instead of limited v1. (3d2a4f406) - Issue #2148 - Don't null out RegExpObject -> RegExpShared pointer on GC. (ad8d9639a) - Issue #2148 - Discard RegExpShared data tables when discarding regexp JIT code. (cdd91edd7) - Issue #2148 - Make Vector not use AlignedStorage for its inline element storage (0365f940f) - Issue #2148 - Shrink Vector from (usually) four pointers in size to three when no inline storage is used. (481069044) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. Official Basilisk changes picked since my last build: - [Basilisk] Add useragent override for instagram port of MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon commit d641959f15cb1172f6f39130b579ccf6111a6f2f and 6d41a6139440a9c396308deca1725b0db823e127 (76cd3dfac) - [Basilisk] Port Pale Moon version of Tab fading Backport of roytam1/UXP commit https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commit/2a32b18f465a8d068d1b1866d027374b4706cd5a.patch (4abf53728) - [Basilisk] add tab caption fading to CtrlTab backport of roytam1/UXP commit add tab caption fading to CtrlTab (78bb7159e) My changes since my last build: - Reverting rev b7e45308 and 9824659d again as I can still get a crash in `RegExpShared::finalize(FreeOp* fop)` (bb547a1b5) - Revert "Reverting rev b7e45308 and 9824659d again as I can still get a crash in `RegExpShared::finalize(FreeOp* fop)`" (0bfc6e378) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt58l.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Windows 2000 x64 Datacenter removed.

Revo Uninstaller is a great piece of software. I use it for ages. The last XP-compatible version was Revo Uninstaller Pro 3.2.1. You could get it for free in several giveaways in the past. Use Google, and you will still find it easily! I can't link it here due to our forum rules.

Well, II suppose if the admin or someone is annoyed they can move the MAME posts to a new thread. If you want to talk about MAME in general this may be a good place. Vogons: Console & Arcade Emulation https://www.vogons.org/viewforum.php?f=11 As for me, I don't really have more to say about it, I am afraid. I don't have actual arcade nostalgia. Just that some old games were told to have their best version on some arcade platform, whilst the DOS/Sega/Nintendo versions were inferior ports.

I don't think I ever tried Keplar in dual view mode. I wish I could remember the last NVIDIA card I used that I used in dual view mode. But it seems to me that even though the newer drivers worked and did mostly what they needed to do, I never got dual view to work. If possible, use anything pre-200 to start with, although it seemed one of the versions around 197 didn't work correctly either. I'm not sure if you could install older drivers, enable dual view, and then upgrade them to later drivers, if that would work or not. Like I mentioned, somewhere before the pandemic, I upgraded my dual monitor setup to a 28in monitor so I didn't need dual view anymore. It seems to me there was a 286 driver that was modified to work with Windows 2000, you could start there as well. Find anything that's closest to that release number since I can't remember if that was one that blackwingcat modified or not.

You commented on this in another thread. I don't remember the method I used to partition this hard drive. But I only use Windows 2000/XP and compatible programs. It is a mini notebook without CD ROM. I did it via external USB. Until now I was working with XP and I did not modify the partitions to install Longhorn, except to format the 2nd partition to NTFS and convert the 1st partition to NTFS from FAT32. On the 1st partition I don't install operating systems, I only have the boot files. I will try to see the MBR partition machine code, I remember some old tools. What I can contribute is that it is possible to fix Longhorn to only boot with ntldr by disposing of bootmgr with the Windows XP recovery console. And I seem to remember that I also did it in a test with Windows Vista RTM. I'm going to try Windows Seven now. Greetings

"Segrite" is the brand name of the corporation that targets the Enterprise market ; Home Users are being targeted through Quick Heal: https://www.quickheal.co.in/home-users All these are paid-for products, because dedicated coders do need to make a living ... Some free tools are also offered: https://www.quickheal.co.in/free-tools Best regards

lol Though not sure I'd really brag about three tiny months. Firefox v94 was released on November 2, 2021. Chrome v98 was released on February 1, 2022. I suppose if we want to play that game, shouldn't we dig deep into any other have/have-nots between the two versions? And shouldn't we then call this a "Mozillaism" since everything else is always called a "Googleism"?

If anyone noticed, Firefox got structuredClone before Chromium did. BTW, PerformanceObserver is implemented in UXP, but MCP thinks it's evil so it's disabled by default - search for performance in about:config, I don't recall the exact pref name and I'm not at computer ATM. Edit: It's dom.enable_performance_observer.

thanks UCyborg for the palefill xpi and the structuredClone script. works well in NM28 and 360chrome 13.5 with violentmonkey. ( default template ) had a question about setting this for all sites ( // @match *://*/* ) from the polyfill link NHTPG posted i think that is correct. test can be done here : https://www.measurethat.net/Benchmarks/Show/18967/0/structuredclone-test thanks again UCyborg for the valuable input and also NHTPG for the additional info.

Roy or anyone: Just curious about why the Google agent was overridden? I substituted the latest Firefox string and don't see any problems but maybe there's something I'm missing. Edit: a few other sites that don't seem to need the override are Amazon and Bing. Is this related to Pale Moon more so than Serpent?

we could never forget what you have done for the both of us (you helped us realise we are needed)

I know , I never said it's wrong, just saying its other meaning, which is: "the person who first started a conversation about something".

Welcome

Yeah, I'm gonna be cautious with what I read going forward as well here and likely stay in this thread and try to stay on topic more.

Works also in mailnews. EDIT: it works with Mypal68 too.

Good to see ... will test and start using. Glad he is able to still continue his project given the circumstances over there. Sending well wishes.

Interesting. I don't think I have quite the expertise to do this, but I know someone who may. Would this also apply to post-Ivy Bridge Intel graphics drivers such as for Haswell and later?

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 http://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20230318-d5e530bc0-xpmod.7z Win64 http://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20230318-d5e530bc0-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from UXP: Issue #2135 - Follow-up: Check for aElement not being null (2249fbdf) (46178281d) - ported from UXP: Issue #2137 - Part 1: Modify :not() selector to accept a complex selector list (82fa9fb8) (e4c4f6a98) - import from UXP: Issue #2137 - Part 2: Implement SelectorParsingFlags and use it to pass info around (3bb3c193) (d85ee7571) - import from UXP: Issue #2137 - Part 3: Don't always use the internal pseudo-class for handling negations (b257a71c) (14afecdb0) - import from UXP: Issue #2137 - Part 4: Fix namespace regression (ef36c565) (6ba842009) - import from UXP: Issue #2135 - Destroy the host frame and restyle when there are content changes (18e69346) (e8b80ad7c) - import from UXP: Issue #2078 - Follow-up: Ensure empty selector lists aren't iterated when serialized (2be0261d) (49cf067e6) - import from UXP: [Basilisk] Add useragent override for instagram port of MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon commit d641959f15cb1172f6f39130b579ccf6111a6f2f and 6d41a6139440a9c396308deca1725b0db823e127 (76cd3dfa) (16be7b5fb) - Reverting rev b1214c8d and 1d47bb34 again since I can still get a crash in `RegExpShared::finalize(FreeOp* fop)` (1b968eb1a) - import from UXP: Issue #2046 - Follow-up: Fix deprot in builtin/intl (a2d6260c) (6f4f99b6f) - Revert "Reverting rev b1214c8d and 1d47bb34 again since I can still get a crash in `RegExpShared::finalize(FreeOp* fop)`" (3cfac3f0f) - import from UXP: Issue #2160 - Initial support for notarizing during DMG package. Added --with-macbundle-idenity configure option to set a codesign identity. If no identity is set or cross-compiling from Linux no codesigning will be done. Currently doing a full deep bundle v2 sign, instead of limited v1. (3d2a4f40) (cac5e1f4c) - import from UXP: Issue #2148 - Don't null out RegExpObject -> RegExpShared pointer on GC. (ad8d9639) (ebab231f1) - import from UXP: Issue #2148 - Discard RegExpShared data tables when discarding regexp JIT code. (cdd91edd) (a2edee56f) - import from UXP: Issue #2148 - Make Vector not use AlignedStorage for its inline element storage (0365f940) (965181305) - import from UXP: Issue #2148 - Shrink Vector from (usually) four pointers in size to three when no inline storage is used. (48106904) (d5e530bc0)

I've been reselling StartIsBack ever since Windows 8 came out. I've sold thousands to my customers. The last time I made a bulk purchase, I had to buy 500 at $1,500. Is that still the standard procedure? If do, is that still through this link? https://startisback.com/resell/

Yes

If you are talking about these, I would advise against checkmarking these two options. You essentially INTRODUCE a man-in-the-middle to "check" if you have a man-in-the-middle.

Also, going to see when I have the time to update all browsers with chrome.dll and (chrome_child.dll for the ones that use it) with a different preferred base address (probably 0x10010000) as RAM consumption gets reduced a lot when doing that. I will preserve the non-rebased DLLs in case something goes wrong. PD: Thanks to @NotHereToPlayGames for pointing it out.

Thanks, it worked! I don't know how and why, in addition it's interesting that compatibility mode gets removed after the browser gets launched, really strange, but when a site refuses to cooperate I can just re enable compatibility mode and relaunch.

@Chuck : Also take note of the "workaround" posted by @rereser: https://www.xpforums.com/threads/360-extreme-explorer-chrome-69-for-windows-xp.934574/page-3#post-3269734

I don't understand this.

A small glitch arises though, with the background-color: rgb(232,232,232) tweak in the userChrome.css: if a line with a altered color in the mail-list is selected, it turns nearly unreadebale! No white script on on a strong blue background, but it's light grey on white. Strange enough: if i change to the background-color: rgb(255,255,255) - which means white, as in the standard odd lines - such a selected line is displaying white on white.... Edit: The solution is as simple as adding 2 additional lines in the .css: #threadTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row(odd, selected) { background-color: Highlight !important; }

Yes, I could've written 0x01c30000, but what difference would it make? Old Chromes can still be downloaded from some places to check.

When Chrome was still developed for XP, chrome.dll's base address was 0x1c30000.

great job @Humming Owl on this project! we have good dedicated members here that really support each other and I appreciated that (In also followed this topic)

Unless he has a good GPU. In such a case, the heavy lifting is shifted to the GPU, and not the CPU. I was using Vista x64 Ultimate on an HP xw8200 (a dual Xeon system, based on Netburst P4), I had 7 GB of DDR2 RAM in it, and my PCI-e slot was knackered, so I put in a nicely accelerated PCI dadapter. Aero sang sweetly on that, and I had no issues with Vista. This was especcailly the case with SP2 built in and the Platform update. On an XP-era computer? Sure disabe Aero.

Hello @Mark-XP! Thanks for your nice words! Much appreciated! The solution you linked in your comment works without any modifications. Here is my detailed instruction to get the "Alternating row highlighting" working in MailNews right away: Create a folder called Chrome in your profile folder. Copy the file userChrome.css containing your linked CSS code into the created folder Chrome . Open about:config, create a new Boolean variable toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets and set it to the value true. Restart MailNews. That is exactly what I did. And it worked right away. Please note that toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets is a Boolean, and not a string variable! And the file userChrome.css must be copied into the Chrome subfolder of your profile folder. That's simply all. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Also a new release by Feodor2 just 14 hours ago. MyPal68.13 nightly build https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/issues/160 It is supposedly even less stable but has better JS engine, I suggest to check it out.

Well, I am afraid that my happiness didn't last for long as you expected.

Here's the latest comment from Feodor2 in GitHub for people who are worried about him: https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/issues/186#issuecomment-1434682001 Feodor2 is still alive!

My essential tools for solving problems in Windows XP — Part 3 — Text, hex, resource, and registry editors Notepad++: Notepad++ is a text and source code editor for use with Microsoft Windows. It supports tabbed editing, which allows working with multiple open files in a single window. For me, one of the best text editors ever! The last version which has been compatible with Windows XP is Notepad++ 7.9.2. Download link: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/downloads/v7.9.2/ HxD: HxD is a carefully designed and fast hex editor which, additionally to raw disk editing and modifying of main memory (RAM), handles files of any size. The easy to use interface offers features such as searching and replacing, exporting, checksums/digests, insertion of byte patterns, a file shredder, concatenation or splitting of files, statistics and much more. HxD is free of charge for private and commercial use. The last version which is compatible with Windows XP is HxD 2.5.0.0. Download links: Installer version: https://mh-nexus.de/downloads/HxDSetup.zip Portable version: https://mh-nexus.de/downloads/HxDPortableSetup.zip WinHex - Computer Forensics & Data Recovery Software, Hex Editor & Disk Editor: WinHex is in its core a universal hexadecimal editor, particularly helpful in the realm of computer forensics, data recovery, low-level data processing, and IT security. An advanced tool for everyday and emergency use: inspect and edit all kinds of files, recover deleted files or lost data from hard drives with corrupt file systems or from digital camera cards. Features depend on the license type, among them: Disk editor for hard disks, floppy disks, CD-ROM & DVD, ZIP, Smart Media, Compact Flash, ... Native support for FAT12/16/32, exFAT, NTFS, Ext2/3/4, Next3®, CDFS, UDF Built-in interpretation of RAID systems and dynamic disks Various data recovery techniques RAM editor, providing access to physical RAM and other processes' virtual memory Data interpreter, knowing 20 data types Editing data structures using templates (e.g. to repair partition table/boot sector) Concatenating and splitting files, unifying and dividing odd and even bytes/words Analyzing and comparing files Particularly flexible search and replace functions Disk cloning (under DOS with X-Ways Replica) Drive images & backups (optionally compressed or split into 650 MB archives) Simple scripting 256-bit AES encryption, checksums, CRC32, hashes (MD5, SHA-1, ...) Erase (wipe) confidential files securely, hard drive cleansing to protect your privacy Import all clipboard formats, incl. ASCII hex values Convert between binary, hex ASCII, Intel Hex, and Motorola S Character sets: ANSI ASCII, IBM ASCII, EBCDIC, (Unicode) Instant window switching. Printing. Random-number generator. Supports files of any size. Very fast. Easy to use. Extensive program help. More The latest version WinHex 20.6 is compatible with Windows XP. The program do not need any installation. It's portable. You can try out WinHex for free, it's not limited in time, but functionally restricted. Download links: Portable version: https://www.x-ways.net/winhex.zip User manual: https://x-ways.net/winhex/manual.pdf Resource Hacker: Resource Hacker is a resource editor for 32bit and 64bit Windows® applications. It's both a resource compiler (for *.rc files), and a decompiler - enabling viewing and editing of resources in executables (*.exe; *.dll; *.scr; etc) and compiled resource libraries (*.res, *.mui). While Resource Hacker™ is primarily a GUI application, it also provides many options for compiling and decompiling resources from the command-line. I think Resource Hacker is one of the best in this category. The last version compatible with Windows XP is Resource Hacker 5.1.8. Unfortunately, the installer (exe file) of this version doesn't work anymore under Windows XP, but the portable version (zip file) does. Resource Hacker 5.1.7 is the last XP-compatible installer release. Resource Hacker 5.1.8 is the last XP-compatible portable release. Download links: Resource Hacker 5.1.7 installer: https://web.archive.org/web/20200902234826/http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/reshacker_setup.exe Resource Hacker 5.1.8 portable: https://web.archive.org/web/20230629014912/http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/resource_hacker.zip Registrar Registry Manager: Registrar Registry Manager 9.20 is a registry editor which is still supported in Windows XP. Hompage: https://www.resplendence.com/registrar There is a Free Home Edition: https://www.resplendence.com/download/RegistrarHomeV9.exe and a commercial Professional Edition. Registry Workshop: My favourite registry editor is Registry Workshop (current version is 5.1.0). Link: http://www.torchsoft.com/en/rw_information.html It is still supported in Windows XP, but it's commercial. This program is definitely worth its money. You can try it 30 days for free. Here are the download links of the English and German version 5.1.0 (other language versions are also available): English version: http://www.torchsoft.com/download/RegistryWorkshop.exe German version: http://www.torchsoft.com/download/RegistryWorkshop_deu.exe PCRegedit: PCRegedit is a Linux Live CD based, easy-to-use tool to create, delete, edit the Windows registry key-values due to your needs without booting from Windows. You can use it to fix Windows Registry key-values when it is maliciously altered by virus, when you are going to edit key-values, inaccessible in your Windows system, or when it simply doesn't start anymore. In a nutshell, using PCRegedit, you can get full access to your Windows registry from outside if necessary. Download link: https://raymondcc.r.worldssl.net/PCRegedit-51.iso A list of all parts of my My essential tools for solving problems in Windows XP can be found in my post of Additional Resources. Link: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183498-general-and-specific-solutions-for-problems-regarding-auwumu-in-windows-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1216513