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The last time I tried building SDL2 was: SDL2_v2-0-22 (25-04-2022) with MinGW 8, on actual Windows XP x86. That worked fine. I have not tried building SDL3 that way. There is also a MinGW 10 build environment on that system, if need be. But I don't have any spare time in the two weeks to come, I need to travel...

I just noticed this: https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL3/README/windows States: "All desktop Windows versions, back to Windows XP, are still supported." So something is not as intended. Posted an issue here: https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/issues/12128 EDIT: AND... FIXED (by Sam Lantinga)

Portable KernelEx is the most simple. I have not yet tried it though. Preferably I build a version of SDL3 without these dependencies. I did build SDL2 before. But only when the API is stabilized. Even better would be for the SDL3 team to add XP back as a supported platform, as it was for SDL2.

There was mention of a major SDL 3 release. This one: https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/releases/tag/release-3.2.0 So far, most open source games use SDL2. Which has a history of supporting Windows XP just fine. But this v3.2.0 unfortunately does not: Two Windows XP incompatible calls in SDL3.dll (from package SDL3-3.2.0-win32-x86.zip): kernel32.dll - SetWaitableTimerEx kernel32.dll - CreateWaitableTimerExW Any ideas?

Small update on this: That same 22H2 install media on USB stick, when booted from it, then selecting install and pointing it to an existing partition. It failed. Says the system partition is too small. (There was no system partition). So in this 22H2 installer they added a check, which was absent in version 1903. But the check was bypassed in the scenario of my previous post. Either way, I kinda gave up in trying to keep Windows 10 portable and backed-up as a single partition. Just give it a 1TB unformatted SSD, let Windows 10 setup format that SSD how it wants it. Then afterwards split the main data partition in two parts, to my own liking. Do some software installation and configuration. Let things update. Then keep that whole SSD as a "reference", and copy it over to the exact same bunch of 1TB SSDs. With Harddisk cloning software. Then fight a bit tho get these bootable again. Then enter the MS product keys for each final system.

I was looking for QT5 dll files to maybe make some software XP compatible. In several places it is told that QT5 v5.6.3 is the last properly XP compatible version, but only if it is build in a specific way with MSVC 2013. Some mention that QT5 v5.7.0 and v5.7.1.may also work like that. Anyways, with some searching I found pre-build QT5 v5.7.0 dll files, working fine on XP. It is part of SQLiteStudio v3.1.1. Here: https://github.com/catcherochek/Bucketmgr1/tree/master/tools/SQLiteStudio or here: https://archive.org/details/sqlitestudio For completeness, here are XP compatible libs of QT5 5.6.3, which are only useful when developing/building software: https://github.com/lighterowl/qt563xp/releases (Still, If someone knows about a newer XP compatible version, I would love to have a copy.)

Back to check. No, there is no case fan or any other fan blowing at the card. There is only the CPU fan (stock intel) and PSU fan.

It is a passive GV-N710D5SL-2GL. Details in post no.3 of this topic. Big heatsink. The Lian-Li case can actually take a full size ATX PSU. But I don't like how that blocks airflow, so I offset the ATX PSU to protrude 50mm at the backside. I may have added a small case fan near the GPU. I am not sure, and cannot check now...

That is the case I am using, yes. Graphics card goes at the bottom. Heatsink pointing down. Back then, when I assembled it, I checked the temperature by touch. It was within reason. 90 degrees as you mentioned, would not be acceptable for a build of mine. I don't know why you are getting these high temperatures.

An image of the Lian-li mini-ITX case is om page 2 of this topic. Don’t remember whether or not I added a small fan. Not home to check now…

I only have time for a brief test this week. I get 53 degrees C. After 20 minutes on Desktop with GPU-Z render test running that whole time. It is a fanless GT 710 in a small case. Light duty GPU temperature was 25 degrees C. See Image. Edit for completeness: OS Windows XP SP3 x86. Driver 344.75. The card is a Gigabyte one with 2GB GDDR5 memory.

"unlike GT 710" with a newer driver you mean? Tiny bump in OpenGL version or PhysX is irrelevant unless you have a specific use for it. IMO Practical observed stability goes above any trivial features or small benchmark gains. There is no "GPU health" as such. How would that be measured? Only thing I can imagine is obviously overheated cards and/or cards which show artifacts on screen. Or of course, 'dead' cards. If you are worried, buy a spare, that is what I do. I mean, I am not worried, but I still bought a spare. You could test GPU-Z display of "Bus interface". I found on older motherboards this may get stuck in a certain power saving mode, after warm reboots. Which then decreases GPU performance a bit, until it is 'woken up again'.

Epson All-in-One ET-16650 printer and scanner, A3 format. As sold new 03-2024. The currently offered drivers still work fine in Windows XP SP3 x86, for both printing and scanning. Tested through Ethernet connection. No tweaks or hacks necessary. Unbelievable...

I don't see how hardware PC health could be negatively affected. Not in general and not with this particular modification. If some essential part of the driver would be a mismatch with the hardware, then it would hang the system as soon as that mismatched code path was ran. Also, if people would have dying hardware because of such, it would be reported. My GT 710 system still runs fine.

Surely people at Vogons have tried similar things. I just did a quick search with the terms: ""site:vogons.org "windows xp" 486 cmpxchg8b"" See for example post from KCompRoom2000 here: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=82914 EDIT: Also the link to the POD tests at winhistory.de here: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=75778 PS, this is my 486 system, With DOS and Windows 95: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1117089#p1117089