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I was under the impression that this topic is about using software that requires Win7 or above on Vista with the aid of win32’s extended kernel. It has become clear to me that you are not particularly interested in security software, and therefore see no reason why others wouldn’t be content with a legacy version of Malwarebytes. Personally, I am not very interested in gaming, but I would never presume to declare all discussion of PC games as being OT in someone else’s thread.

SP1 DOWNLOAD LINK

MS has created additional inconvenience lately. They broke selfupdate of the Windows Update Client. The good news is there is no need to mess with version 7.6.7600.320 anymore. Give KB3138612 a shot. https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB3138612 Regards, VZ

Better to get direct from Nvidia http://uk.download.nvidia.com/Windows/344.11/344.11-desktop-winxp-64bit-international.exe http://uk.download.nvidia.com/Windows/344.11/344.11-desktop-winxp-32bit-international.exe

This isn't a blog.

I will likely use Windows 8 until the late spring 2024. During that time (between October 2023 until I pull the plug), I hope that Edge is at least supported, so that some sort of current browser is used. Beyond that, my tentative plan is to migrate to an iPad Pro and Bluetooth keyboard combination. Major strides are taking hold in order to make tablets (well iPads) more productive as a PC replacement. I hope that in three to four years from now, those strides will appreciate and make the iPad a suitable make shift workstation. As time goes by, there is less that I need a dedicated workstation for. If I wanted to, I have an older Windows XP x64 workstation that I could use (disconnected from the Internet of course) as an audio editing workstation. That was my old HP xw8200 PC. Time will tell.

The 980 TI, Titan, Quadro, and lower end cards are newer than the driver, so there's no way it could support them without driver modification

i tested the exe version of sp1 and it worked! also windows update is running now!

@Dixel Excuse me, but I would like to ask who D.Draker is.

SP1 is a prerequisite for KB3138612, so the update may be “not applicable” because you are not running SP1. Other possibilities: The update is already installed, or you downloaded the wrong file. (The 32-bit version is of course the one that does NOT say “for x64-based systems”.)

Yeah , thanks , but those are international (much larger file-size with unneeded languages) . Though I somewhat like them since they have proper English spelling , like display colour , etc . In any case, let them be here.

If this is a new installation of Windows 7 RTM, then your very first step is to manually install KB976932 (a.k.a. Service Pack 1). The following Microsoft link might also prove helpful (although I doubt it): https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/windows-update-sha-1-based-endpoints-discontinued-for-older-windows-devices-10b58bd9-5ba2-b23d-498b-139ce5c709af

You need to have the SHA update to Windows 7. It does not work before that SHA update (meaning anything older than 2019)

i have now moved to windows 8.1 and i plan to stay on It

Some more links to 344.11 ( XP and server 2003 ) in case the preivious are down. https://drivers.softpedia.com/get/GRAPHICS-BOARD/NVIDIA/NVIDIA-GeForce-Graphics-Driver-34411-for-XP.shtml https://drivers.softpedia.com/get/GRAPHICS-BOARD/NVIDIA/NVIDIA-GeForce-Graphics-Driver-34411-for-XP-Server-2003-64-bit.shtml

You said "...nVidia ... didn't intend the high-end and enthusiast 9xx cards ... to work with the Windows XP...". Nothing personal , but this may be misleading for people , esp. with limited skills in modding . I'm saying: top cards from GTX 900 series do work without modding > out of the box < if using this driver 344.11. Here is the proof, a small section from .inf file: NVIDIA_DEV.100C = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN Black" NVIDIA_DEV.1005 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN" NVIDIA_DEV.13C2 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970" NVIDIA_DEV.13C0 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980" And here they are : the official drivers for 32 and 64 bit Vista and XP from a reputable source. https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/geforce-344-11-whql-driver-download.html I had discovered these rare drivers quite a long time ago and have had enough time to test them. Despite the common belief, these drivers do work as intended with 900 series . And are problem free, in my opinion. Much faster and more reliable than the latest XP drivers , @UCyborg pointed that out too. So I think it may be a good idea to add "and 900 series" to the name of this topic , for those who are looking for them. Or just create a new one . That's up for our dear moderators to decide. @Dave-H , maybe it needs your attention. P.S. They do not work with cheap/low end 900 series cards.

I got a RX 5700 XT last July in fact for better driver support, oddly. NVIDIA drivers like to force you onto the latest version of 10, or otherwise just reduce your options. With the newer nvidia cards, its Windows 10 1709+ and no other alternative (the linux ones just generally suck). I got my AMD card so I could have more freedom in my driver (i can now use Linux, macOS) and plus use every version of Windows 10 if I feel like it (works all the way back to 1507). The only problems I have with it, is that the non-WHQL drivers are pretty unstable (which is why I stay on the WHQL ones), and that they broke Windows 8.0 support too. Windows 7 though, being 1 year out of support and they are still developing for it.

Well I like amd but lets be honest their drivers sucks even on 7 and 10. And the fact that they skipped 8/8.1 all together makes it even worse. How can you explain to customers which bought rx 480 which had OFFICIAL 8.1 support that they will no longer offer them driver updates. I think it is against their own EULA. I like nvidia cause their drivers are super good and stable. I use geforce experience and shadow play. nvidia dropped their support for 8.1 with rtx 30 xx but they still continue to release drivers for rtx 20xx and older.

And then just days later ...... He goes to Windows 7 ..................... Bam Bam BAAAAAM (dramatic music and voice ....lol)

Excuse me , that's not entirely true . I really didn't like what Nvidia had done to AA , they are being punished by me , so I boycott them . But top tier 900 series do work with XP and officialy supported . I had tried this driver (a long time ago) and it worked without any modding with GTX980. I don't have the card anymore , so I can't provide the screens , sorry. But please check for yourself. https://drivers.softpedia.com/get/GRAPHICS-BOARD/NVIDIA/NVIDIA-GeForce-Graphics-Driver-34411-for-XP.shtml

Here , lemme hep you with the topics , don't thank me , just enjoy. "Software compatible with Windows Vista Extended Kernel". By WinClient5270, July 19, 2020 in Windows Vista https://msfn.org/board/topic/181696-software-compatible-with-windows-vista-extended-kernel/page/ "Best windows vista anti-virus". By winvispixp, January 14, 2021 in Windows Vista https://msfn.org/board/topic/182285-best-windows-vista-anti-virus/ Refusing to use KGB software doesn't necessarily mean one is not interested in security . On the contrary. And here are no reports about non-KGB software "crashes" with this Kernel. Only Kaspersky has this problem.

Device Manager indicates that he used the MPS Multiprocessor HAL, which doesn't use ACPI. I just tried that HAL on X58 (which also works fine with ACPI) and confirmed that it does kill hyperthreading, along with Enhanced Intel SpeedStep.

An awful experience. I have and AMD 7890K APU with integrated graphics, which require a driver. It has Windows 8.1 driver. But RX550 has a driver for Windows 7 and Windows 10. The only way to make it work for me - install Windows 8.1 driver for my APU and then install the driver for RX550 via Device Manager. However, after installing it overwrites my APU driver and I lost access to AMD Radeon Settings Center - it just crashes immediately after I open it. Also, I enabled "AMD Dual Graphics" in my motherboard UEFI, it works, but again - no AMD Radeon Settings app. So, It is a good idea to buy GTX 1650 for this build if you don't mind using Nvidia's GPUs. As for me - I am an AMD Fanboy, so my way is a lot harder here. P. S. sorry for Russian on my screenshots..

Can I ask you how is your experience with rx 550 drivers on windows 8.1? I had terrible experiences with amd drivers on 8.1

Oh yeah but Idk if I will be able to have it on my main pc. nvidia, intel and amd are doing ther best in cooperation with microsoft to eliminate everything below 10.

if those extensions have proper seamonkey support, then they will work on iceape did you try installing "GitHub Web Components Polyfill" extension?

I know that I already called it a Dead Horse - but I've come across a REPEATABLE test if you WANT to CRASH your browser. A word of caution in advance, this *will* CRASH your browser and you *will* have a TON of error dialogs to clear. But the computer does remains responsive - I'm only crashing the browser and not the OS. I did this in a WinXP VirtualBox with 2GB RAM - the numbers would vary plus or minus 5 or so with consecutive runs. v11 crashed with only roughly 58 about:blank's opened. v12 crashed with roughly 74. V13 crashed with roughly 97. Note that I"m only loading "about:blank" tabs but this test DOES demonstrate that newer versions don't crash as early as older versions with a "ton of tabs" open. Here's how (I use the "portable repack", so these instructions will need modified if you use the "installed" version versus the "portable") - Create a "crash.bat" file (without the quotes) in the same folder that contains "360Loader.exe". When you execute crash.bat, several about:blanks will open and *will* eventually CRASH -- the command prompt will stop incrementing when no more about:blanks will load - ie, you crashed your browser. The crash.bat contents follow -- @echo off for /l %%i in (1,1,1000) do ( echo Tab Count: %%i start 360Loader.exe "about:blank" ping 127.0.0.1 -n 1 > nul ) Happy Crashing

I don't think that I will continue to use it. It is not my favorite OS. Yes, one of them, but not the most favorite. I'll upgrade my second PC to Windows 10 when the time comes...

Just FYI.. https://support.malwarebytes.com/hc/en-us/articles/360039022313-Malwarebytes-for-Windows-v3-support-for-Windows-XP-and-Vista "Malwarebytes is committed to continue support for Windows XP and Vista for as long as Microsoft allows us to" I would never ever use KGB software under any circumstances.

I don't really use Windows 8.x (tried 8.0 yesterday but AMD really doesn't want you to) but I did use it for a fair bit of time (2012 - 2015) on my laptop. Once Windows 7 goes away I will probably move to Server 2012 R2 / Windows 8.1 and then eventually Linux or Windows 10 afterwards.

You can translate extended kernel language. See the method here :

Nice to see some of the old guard still around here - hi folks! xpclient, I have Not found that anything about Win 10's virtualization logic has been helpful since I've been using VMware for a long time. I get all the virtualization I need from VMware - which works quite well. As far as I can see all Win 10's virtualization tech has done is make the system much less efficient at other, normal things. Honestly, other than a bit of polish here and there (e.g., Win 10's tendency not to make you reorganize all the icons on your desktop quite so often when monitor layouts change) I can't say it's doing more for me in any part than Win 8.1, which in turn just tidied up and polished what Win 7 did, ad nauseum. I have a pretty good feel for how much computing it takes to get whatever done, having lived and used computers since the 1970s. I did an instruction execution count / MIPs comparison not long ago. Back around 1980 a big PDP-11 minicomputer booted up in a few minutes as I recall. Given the power difference between that system back then and a modern microprocesor now - not even counting multiplicity of cores - to execute enough instructions to boot up that PDP-11 would take much less than 1 second. And in fact I know some folks who, for whatever reason, have software emulators for those ancient systems, which run the old RSX-11M Plus OS MUCH faster than back in the day on purpose-built hardware. We should be getting a LOT more done with these modern machines. Yet we can all feel the sluggishness in the desktop. Just dragging files around (or e.g. unzipping a big archive) in WIndows has gotten horrendous. Delete one file on solid state storage and get a progress bar? In my day job I move 2 GB zip files around a fair bit. It's how we package things. To unzip one of these big files (yes, I still think of 2 GB as big) with Windows Explorer takes something like half a minute. 7-zip from the command line takes literally 1/10 that - i.e. 3 seconds. No lie. And that's running in Windows 10 with a file system so bloated that it can't even read/write files at anywhere near the speed my hardware can actually support. Since when did I/O storage get faster than CPU/RAM? Ridiculous! Win 8.1 delivered some rearchitecture of the desktop, and sure enough things got less "sticky" than with Win 7. If you started something long - oh, I dunno, maybe an unzip operation - you could do something else useful instead of the desktop just getting stuck. But now we seem to be back to that. I've had several cases where Explorer just became unresponsive - on this monster workstation. It's sickening. I need to be able to multitask freely - it's the nature of my work. And... From the Is the Grass Really Greener department, part of my job responsibilities involve using Macs also. I've received Big Sur updates on several of my systems. MacOS is going the same way - loaded down with gunk, it turns a reasonably fast system into a slower one. Ugh! Sorry for any Unix/Linux afficionados out there, but that architecture has NEVER been better than Dave Cutler's VM system design, yet the commercial companies using both seem to be layering on so much BS that neither seems like it will hold the weight. And for what? So they can sell client-server model computing again? I was comparing some benchmarks made on my circa 2012 high-end workstation with PCIe 2.0 running Win 8.1 vs. this big new 2019 tech model with PCIe 3.0 running Win 10, in which I have a seriously powerful GPU... Even though I had resurrected Aero Glass with Big Muscle's tool on that older system - and NOT on the newer one, see for yourself which did Fonts and Text rendering faster... Red is the old system. No way 9 year old tech should be able to outpace modern tech. The OS is the problem.

If it was a question of the best free antivirus for vanilla Windows Vista SP2, then Avast Free 18.8 would be my recommendation. (For more information and official download links see End of support for Windows XP/Vista at Avast Forum.) However, the original post states, “including the extended kernel,” which might break Avast for all I know. Avast system requirements formerly specified SP2 (and of course no longer mention Vista at all), so I wouldn’t suggest Avast for those who feel that service packs slow down boot time too much. (I believe Malwarebytes only called for SP1 or above in those days.) Avast 18.8 had a BSOD issue with build 6.0.6003 which I mentioned here, but Avast released a micro-update to resolve it. If installing Avast on build 6003, it might be best to use an online installer rather than offline due to the micro-update. Avast 7.x no longer receives definition updates (see Versions 8 and lower no longer supported at Avast Forum).

Not AV, but I suggest you take a look at Malwarebytes Free 3.5.1 which I use on my Vista system (I use it instead on AV). You can automate scans via Task Scheduler. Also, I used to use Avast Free AV (it still receives definition updates on Vista and XP), but it suddenly became glitchy at a point of time. Don't know whether it's just my issue though. One more suggestion: take a look at Clamwin AV, a wonderful, open-source AV that supports Windows 95 (yes 95!) through 10.

As you all will see I have changed my profile to show Windows 10 x64. And yes...most of you know why I started this thread...but because of restrictions för bank tasks via older versions of Windows I was forced to update.... But it is still CRAP!

Anecdata: Yesterday came in a telephone technician to fix/replace the central unit of an old (but not exactly "ancient", this particular one was installed 2004 or so and was in production until 2014 or so) telephone switchbox/PBX, manufacturer Bosch/Tenovis/Avaya . The thingy is programmed/configured via a serial through a proprietary configuration software. The technician had a (high end) HP notebook running Windows 10 that was used only to run an XP virtual machine in which the Avaya software ran. He told me that he has also a 7 VM on the same netbook because other proprietary software was too new for XP, ran in 7 just fine, but for some reason didn't run well directly in 10. So basically he had this (I repeat, very high end) powerful machine running 10 only to be able to run either XP or 7 in virtual machines. jaclaz

Hi Noel! Thanks as always for your updates... I still look for something that I can find positive with Windows 10....but sadly I can't...Windows 10 has shown so many things that do not work and it varies from version to version what (if anything) has improved (or got worse). I have seen such simple things as "plug and play" not work at times....One aspect of Windows I have never liked is One Drive. People start there new computers and come to connecting to there network and nearly everyone connects to their Lan or Wifi and then you have to log in with a Microsoft account....it causes so much problems for the elderly that have short term memory problems. Even if you don't connect to your network and create a local account...Microsoft is forever asking us to finish off our settings and create a Microsoft account....as soon as folks do this and get conned into One drive...it ***** up their system folders and it is a pain to fix...Never liked One Drive and if I want to use it I login to my Microsoft account to transfer stuff I want on line for support. I had a customer the other day that had forgotten their login password and had no Idea of how to fix it....most of my pensioners are just not any good at writing up passwords etc ...and even if they do...they forget where they have written them....Of course I fixed this now with a local account and no password so they do not have to try and remember them... My partner likes Microsoft Teams and thinks that works well...several other customers have commented about that ...but I won't even waste energy on Microsoft and stick to third party software..... I upgraded my work computers to Windows 10 a while back and that is 1909. I froze all updates...removed all apps....and it has been OK...still prefer Windows 7 over this rubbish! The downside of this is going to the next update and going through the procedure again....just wish Microsoft could respect their users settings and leave them alone....

IMO games, not bloat, have driven the need for more powerful hardware, For a long time bigger software came with actual benefits. We didn't need giga- or tera- sized disk drives at one time, but then we didn't keep thousands of music tracks or videos or digital camera images with tens of megapixels. Now as of e.g., 2010 we can store those and play them in high fidelity. Ask yourself: What MORE can we do in 2020? We were told things like Virtual/Augmented Reality would become commonplace. Newsflash: It didn't happen. I'm observing specifically this in the last 10 years: With the hardware now twice as big, the OS has expanded to be even more than twice as bloated. Perhaps as much as four times. To the point where current hardware doesn't run the same software as well as the last generation. I was looking over some old data I had accumulated... I had made a spreadsheet from some testing. Back in 2015, Photoshop CC 2015 would start in 3.5 seconds on my WIndows 8.1 workstation. Now the latest Photoshop starts in 6 seconds on my much more powerful Windows 10 workstation. I thought that some of that may be the latest Photoshop getting less efficient, but even the older versions don't start as quickly as they did on lesser hardware. There is no excuse for this. We are not getting more reliable disk storage, nor better integration, nor a better computing experience. If anything, all of that has gotten worse. It's no wonder people pine for Windows 7. It got things done, even if less efficiently than XP. Earlier today I was trying to open a number of VNC windows to servers I need to manage, so that I could monitor them. The OS didn't provide features - and I haven't found a 3rd party add-on, so far - that would just allow me to open a group of VNC windows in the exact same locations and sizes they were in before. I have to write a custom script to do it, using an old tool that's been around since the 1990s. Where is the advancement? Even station-keeping would be fine; not regression! -Noel

I tested update search from RTM, and it works too. I'm impressed Do you see the picture this time?

Thanks again. I've tried the new URL (the original one you gave didn't have the "nf:8530" bit) but still no joy. It seems a bit different now, sometimes it fails almost immediately, sometimes it scans for ages and then fails, but always ends up with "An error has occurred: 0x8024400A".

No, still no joy at all here I'm afraid!

It's normal. Just retry again and again, after a while it works.

Thanks! I tried with your proxy, and WUMT is just failing with error 0x8024400A all the time.

New method found ! Thanks to abbodi1406 https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/restore-windows-update-for-windows-xp-server-2003.82538/page-3#post-1628508 /!\ Restricted to french IPs Or if your're lazy, you can use my proxy that I have made available to everyone : http://wsus.update-old-wins.fr.nf It should be specified in gpedit.msc : Computer configuration > Administrative templates > Windows components > Windows update > Specify intranet Microsoft update service location, and enter in the two fields : http://wsus.update-old-wins.fr.nf/? In this case a simple update of WUA to 7.4.7600.226 or 7.6.7600.256 is required. This proxy also restore the updates for Windows 2000! It just need two requirements : -double update of WUA : http://download.windowsupdate.com/v7/windowsupdate/redist/standalone/WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/windowsupdate/redist/standalone/7.4.7600.226/windowsupdateagent30-x86.exe -Root certificates : http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/cabpool/rootsupd_a153023b66d29034420aa227ccc2164cff75229e.exe You should also add the Specify intranet Microsoft update service location GPO in gpedit, for this : right click on Adminisitrative template : Add/remove template > add wuau.adm The Windows update section should be appear in the list. Finally, scan with WUMT.