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@joe92 Welcome to the MSFN forums ... It's the new UXP-killer "Googlism" I mentioned several pages back, the very reason all the discourse-based forums broke in UXP... The name of that "killer" is nullish coalescing assignment ... This operator was first implemented in Firefox 79 and Chromium 85; it's unknown if/when "upstream" can come up with an implementation in UXP, but what's certain by now is it's the "new" 2023 trend followed all the more by the well known "villain" sites (i.e. those that don't care in the slightest for "legacy" platforms and are eager to adopt the latest Google "shiny" ASAP ) ... BTW, "*.notion.site" and "*.notion.so" URLs are currently broken in UXP for that very same reason ...

... But they didn't bother updating the copyright dates ... https://www.escanav.de/german/index-new.asp => Copyright © 2020 MicroWorld Technologies Inc. - Anti-Virus und Content Security https://www.escanav.de/german/content/products/MWAV/escan_mwav.asp => Copyright © 2021 MicroWorld Technologies GmbH - Unternehmenssicherheit They do support Vista/WS2008, so ; I'm rather curious, though, why Win8.1/10/11 aren't mentioned/supported?

Now my installers works for any OS from 2000 to 7 SP1. Download your from https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsVjtW11rJfA3FQANrgg_QXRMgfx?e=lCF2lV and run it (follow eventual prompts). It restores WU, MU and AU (including website on Vista and 7). Notes: 1)On Windows 2000, you need SP3 or SP4 and IE6 installed before you run this 2)On Windows XP RTM, SP1, SP2 AU doesn't work if MU is enabled (unsolvable) 3)On Windows Vista and 7 already used installations run the fix before installing 4)On Windows 7 SP1 error 0x8007000A is related to wuaueng.dll and cannot be solved. If you have it, install SHA-2 support 5)The installer can be run multiple times if you need

You have your own thread about this in the Windows 2000 section, where it should be. You can tag any contributor to this thread in that thread. The same will happen with Windows 2003 should the contributors here deem it to be necessary.

Yeah, Chromium can't use GPU for rendering on XP. Mozilla-based browsers may be able to use Direct3D 9, but get this, it's rarely mentioned, Direct3D 9 on XP DOES NOT WORK WELL ACROSS MULTIPLE MONITORS...well, it only does with A LOT OF LAG, the performance is only as it should be (within drivers'/OS capabilities) as long as the browser window is entirely on the primary monitor. Talk about waste of good hardware!

Exactly! Even the newest supported Chromium (109) is still going to work fine for a long time to come. Luckily Firefox is still supported, which is fantastic. There are many options for 7 at this moment, and while it may eventually end up where XP is at now, the future is much brighter right now for 7 users. (It's even brighter than that if you're on 10/11, but I'm staying with 7 for now because I prefer the old-school interface and the speed).

Mozilla still supports Firefox on Windows 7 (they didn't announce an EoS date yet), that's why you can still use it on 7 until now.

Careful with Debian. It's thought by some that it's more suited to those that are sure they need Debian specifically. Debian is outdated by design, which is not necessarily a good thing. I'm experimenting with it on my laptop since it's sill quite familiar choice if one has been acquainted with another Debian derived distro and is looking for 32-bit one...and at the same time wonder if the reason for Firefox crashing when trying to make it use hardware accelerated video decoding capabilities on the GPU is due to GPU drivers / Mesa from 2020.

Checking back in, this time from 7 x64. At this point there's nowhere to go but forward from here, as much as I hate to say it. Unless I'm on a PC so old that I need to use XP for full driver support, I'm pretty much sold on 7 for the foreseeable future. Though in some ways it was a regression from XP, it managed to improve in many ways that are important to me. Download speeds out of the box are MUCH better, so there's no serious need to keep a download manager around unless you are dead set on getting every last kilobyte your router is capable of routing. The kernel is significantly better too...besides being able to run a much wider range of browsers (and having much more modern options available), browsers seem to be much snappier and perform a lot better. I've currently settled on Waterfox G3 (Firefox 78-based). It's very fast, still has the now-deprecated Flash support, and just seems to be a good 'base' browser to put on a 7 build...and of course you can still download and experiment with other browsers too. I figure that I can download and try a newer version of Firefox, or a modern Chromium build, if a site gives me trouble in Waterfox. It seems 7 is on the road to taking the torch from XP as the new 'superstar' of legacy OSes and I predict that there will be many, MANY browser options for 7 users as time goes on. In general, it's good to be able to look at your options and see what works best. It was impressive to see the Mini Browser working so well in XP, but the aging XP kernel is being pushed to its limits, and of course the performance of Chromium 87 in Win7, both x86 and x64, just blows it out of the water. The fact that Chromium 87 even works in XP is amazing in itself, so I wasn't expecting miracles performance-wise.

Well, good luck with that.

It's not easy to make the switch when you're accustomed to Windows way of doing things and specific software. I've been keeping Linux around for years, just not as the main desktop OS. I don't know about the future (if there is such a thing), Win10 currently suits me the best, pre-Win7 versions don't suit me at all, I have grudges about every Windows version I used though and Win11 is way too alien.

Will do!

A blue screen is blue, usually it comes with some white text on it, including a STOP code, see example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_screen_of_death#/media/File:Windows_XP_BSOD.png Besides, WinSetupFromUSB behaviour might depend on the settings you chose. The fact that you tried other tools obtaining similar failures leads me to think that there may be issues with the source, like some driver (missing or "wrong"). jaclaz

Had a feeling that was the reason, as in regular windows, embedded images display fine.

(Admins) this can be locked now

How about we stop the bickering and move on with life? What a dumpster fire this thread has become. Remember, what you post not only in here but in other threads as well is a direct reflection of yourself. I can hand out content moderation if we can't handle the responsibility of following the rules and being nice to each other.

I bite my tongue.

@WinWord2000 Off-topic posts moved here. You have already been warned once about posting off-topic Windows 2000 related posts in this XP/2003 specific thread. There is a thread for this issue on Windows 2000, please use it in future.

At least in Serpent 52, that behaviour depends upon the user setting in about:preferences#general => Downloads The default is: "Save files to: Downloads" and that generates the behaviour depicted in your screenshot... But when "Always ask me where to save files" has been selected (my preferred choice ), then when the browser is about to save a file inside a directory with a pre-existing file with an IDENTICAL filename, you are presented with a confirmation dialog where you're asked to confirm a file overwrite or, if you decline, you're back at the "Save As" window to type a new, custom/different, filename to save the new file under...

Or, maybe, they didn't (or don't at all) test it on these OSes yet. That's my guess.

Maybe, the most recent version also works under Win 8.1+, and they simply forgot to update their homepage. I can only say that this tool works as advertised and does its job. Not so easy to find XP/Vista-compatible antivirus tools nowadays.

Specify the time in UTC so we can decide for ourselves, no matter where we are.

Hope it's not some baggage IRL, but that was my first thought as bad news just keep piling up.

I forgot to list in my previous post the game where people post truisms, my bad, though it may well belong to the "something else" category. Next one will likely be about RIS installation ... jaclaz

@legacyfan Install XP bit64 via real CD in an CD-Rom Sata drive, this works Dietmar

Which game is this? The one where other users suggest something and you reply saying "Yeah, I tried that but it doesn't work." and that goes on for several posts until it ends nowhere or the one where you post the EXACT description of your hardware, the EXACT description of what tool/method/whatever you tried using to install XP from USB AND the EXACT description of the error(s)/issue(s) you had and for which you may receive (hopefully) some advice or something else? jaclaz

is ETA in the morning or in the afternoon? jaclaz

Dupe topic. Other one is here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183446-windows-81-extended-kernel/

WinNTSetup 5.3 - compiler updated to PureBasic 6.00 C-Backend - updated wimlib to version 1.13.6 - right-click on apply mode combo opens Tools\Compact\WimBootCompress.ini - fixed errors with native 4K drives - fixed VSS error not displayed - fixed Bootice Mod always starts in darkmode - fixed capture problem with OneDrive On-Demand files - fixed error message on FormatEx failures - fixed inaccessible devices were listed in drive combo boxes - fixed offline windows scan may not detect Windows 10/11 builds correctly - fixed internal VHD boot files option may create duplicate BCD entries - fixed auto format may not work if drive is in use - fixed loading ISO with relative path may create duplicates in source combo box - added commandline switch for VHD-CREATE -uuid:{UUID} (simular to VBoxManage internalcommands sethduuid) - added WinCopy option (copy Windows from one partition to another) - added WinCopy and WinCopy-CLI command line - added ReFS support for Windows 11 23H2 - added combobox script selection to diskpart window - added -diskpart command line switch to bring up diskpart window - added WIM_MSG_ERROR and WIMLIB_PROGRESS_MSG_HANDLE_ERROR Messagebox choice - added Remove OneDrive tweak - added DISM feature enable/disable and APPX removal - added possability to disable SFX detection with file: "nosfx" next to WinNTSetup_x64.exe - new right-click on tweaks button to quickly disable all tweaks - changed wimlib is the default compression engine - changed Unattend: Win7-11-Select.xml disables 42 days password expire - changed rearrage folder layout - MinWin: support inline comments (//) - MinWin: grant full admin access to files - MinWin: fixed VCRuntime 2008 installer needs sxsstore.dll and config\TxR - MinWin: fixed diskpart shrink needs defragproxy.dll - RegImport: added support for [?HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\...] (only processed if key exists) - workaround windows 7 Dism /add-driver bug 30 (AMD, NVIDIA drivers with LZSS compression) - workaround EFI NTFS driver bug

Here are two screenshots of MWAV - eScan Antivirus Toolkit, one of the program's main window, the other of the updater, both taken from my installation: The installer file is about 300 MB in size. To install MWAV on the computer, I recommend extracting the installer manually to the target directory and calling the executable file mexe.com or MWAVL.exe there. Reason: If the installer is called directly, all files are extracted to the system's temporary folder. For me, this is not an option. The program is compatible with Windows XP/Vista/7/8 and 2008, comes from Germany and is currently available in version 22.0.52 (DB). Don't worry, the program's interface is in English if this is your system language! Getting a second opinion in case of doubt or checking the system quickly, offline, is a good idea in any case. I have therefore integrated it into my system. Kind regards, AstroSkipper

While researching for an antivirus program which still works under Windows XP, I came across an interesting offline virus scanner that is still fully XP-compatible. The program is called MWAV - eScan Antivirus Toolkit. It is free for private and home use. MWAV provides the ability to scan for any virus, spyware, adware or other dangerous software on your computer. MWAV requires no installation and can be run directly from your computer, on whatever media. It can also run when other antivirus software is installed on your computer. The database is continuously updated to detect new spyware and adware, and the scanning engine is constantly improved for faster and smarter detection. Their homepage is in German. Use a translator if German is not your native language. Here is the link: https://www.escanav.de/german/content/products/MWAV/escan_mwav.asp

Linux is great and can be very helpful, especially if problems occur which can't be solved in Windows. And Linux is especially valuable if you are an Android user like me. Android is based on the Linux kernel, so Linux is predestined to communicate with Android devices. No driver problems in Linux when an Android device is connected to the computer, as is unfortunately very often the case in Windows. Of course, you should choose the Linux distribution that is best suited for you. There are so many, and it is not so easy to find the right one. It should therefore meet your needs and fit your hardware. Greetings from Germany, AstroSkipper

FYI, real, independent booting of OSs is only possible if the OSs have been installed independently and completely. How this can be done and checked is described in this article "Check independence and completeness" here: https://www.boot-us.de/eng/tips_i02.htm Cheers, AstroSkipper

and I did not ask to lock it because of you mentioning it

Ok, I deleted part of the text since I don't know if it's allowed. _ This seems interesting: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/enhanced-h264ify/omkfmpieigblcllmkgbflkikinpkodlk?page=1&hl=en&itemlang=en Choose what video codec YouTube should play for you enhanced-h264ify is a fork of well-known h264ify extension for Firefox/Chrome which blocks VP8/VP9 codecs on YouTube, so that you can use H264 only. This may be useful because there are lots of devices on the market which support H264 hardware decoding and do not support VP8/VP9. This extension has new features such as manual blocking of H264, VP8, VP9, AV1 codecs and 60fps video. By default it blocks everything but H264 and 60fps video. It works only on YouTube. GitHub: https://github.com/alextrv/enhanced-h264ify but it's only for YT and for old hardware I guess.

Interesting, I compared chrome://gpu of these browsers & versions all running on windows 8: IRON 104: Video Decode: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled CHROMIUM 112 (bp): Video Decode: Hardware accelerated GOOGLE CHROME 107: Video Decode: Hardware accelerated 1440p60 it's smoother on chromium 112 - I have also found these extensions when I tried to get hardware acceleration on IRON 104 first: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/h264ify/aleakchihdccplidncghkekgioiakgal/related https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/magic-actions-for-youtube/abjcfabbhafbcdfjoecdgepllmpfceif/related _ Ok, I made some more tests after I read about how to enable Chrome hardware acceleration [DELETED] (I don't know if I can post this) Long story short, I enabled acceleration on Iron playing with [DELETED] Anyway, I not discovered the wheel (the wheel was discovered by blackwingcat ), so comparing this to chrome on w10, I want to have the best video playback experience on w8, at least as smooth as in VLC, so I'll continue investigating... I knows this -maybe- doesn't bring anything new to the table, It's more like a personal appreciation about how accelerated video playback works these days on different chrome versions and windows oses... but I remember an old HP laptop from 2009 in which I installed 10 1511 10586 (wddm 2.0) and youtube on iron worked better than in Windows 8. This is what always kept me curious trying to understand...

It's Bulgarian - but that shouldn't matter! I use v4.3 intentionally despite newest being v4.5.

I observed this (new) behavior the last year too: even with Firefox 78 it wasn't possible to upload (the Elster certificate) for login. My solution was to install version 102; i suppose the newest hypermodern upload-technics of google used in Elster.de to be the culprit...

Found the reason, they're blocked by built-in tracker blocking feature, but can still see them when clicking the link to them, By default, blocking only happens in "private" windows. Not new in this particular version. I'm not much of a talker, plus tired from working and composing posts may take me significant chunk of time. I don't know about others, maybe they don't want to talk about other things here, maybe they go elsewhere for other topics, maybe they don't want to talk about other things at all...who knows. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/feb/22/laibach-to-become-first-foreign-band-to-perform-in-kyiv-since-invasion https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/slovenia-band-laibach-concert-ukraine-canceled-amid-rift-97491115 What the hell is Laibach all about? (it's in English) PS: Life is Life

StartAllBack will use same language taskbar does. You may try deleting %localappdata%\StartAllBack\Cache to reset names cache

You could try this -- https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/downloads-overwrite-alrea/lddjgfpjnifpeondafidennlcfagekbp

What was the problem with Windows 10? It’s nearly 8 years old now, isn’t that “legacy” enough to suit you?

I'm kinda mixed, to be honest. I was accustomed to the great deal of flexibility with NM27 and then NM28. I only ran one of them! I only upgraded from NM27 to NM28 when one of my banking sites couldn't me made to work, despite all the flexibility. It was ONLY when NM28 could no longer be made to work on my banking sites that I migrated to Chromium-based. I continue to monitor the Firefox Forks and my fingers are crossed that I may someday return.

Ha, my PC is also over a decade old, 14 years to be exact, it was bought with playing games in mind though while not breaking the bank. But the cheap laptop from 2014 is much slower, though I can still browse with handful of tabs open, even with Firefox 109.0.1. I've been recently experimenting with 32-bit Debian 11 with KDE on that laptop, so trying to save RAM while still being functional. I could probably get by even if that laptop was the only option since I'm one of the more patient folks while most seem INCREDIBLY impatient. It's been a while since I've been experimenting with Chromium more thoroughly, in the past I've been messing with Vivaldi and Edge, most recent was Edge 94, which I've setup when it was new and I still occasionally update extensions or their settings. But in the end, I always stick with Mozilla-based browser since Chromium is just inflexible in places where I'm used to more flexibility. Even Vivaldi doesn't let you move those extension buttons wherever you want, it's either all of them in one spot or another. At this point, I'm not sure if Chromium is even worth bothering with again. What sites don't work with Firefox that can't be fixed with user agent override, besides maybe some specialized apps needing Web Serial or WebUSB? My Firefox looks like this:

Also a new release by Feodor2 just 14 hours ago. MyPal68.13 nightly build https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/issues/160 It is supposedly even less stable but has better JS engine, I suggest to check it out.

Here's the latest comment from Feodor2 in GitHub for people who are worried about him: https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/issues/186#issuecomment-1434682001 Feodor2 is still alive!

Chinese forks have their own codecs, so you don't need any codecs at all. One exception is chinese Opera that doesn't have its own H264. But then again, MP4 is not a codec per se, it's a container (somewhat similar to MKV, etc). Inside of it you will find H265, x264, H263 etc.

User can't do it for themselves. As a general rule we do not delete accounts but rather recommend that people just logout and not come back if they don't want to be here. We make this recommendation instead of complying with a deletion because of the countless times that people have returned to MSFN after years of not using it. Also consider this: if we delete your account, your posts will remain. However since this server is hosted in EU, we will respond appropriately to a properly worded GDPR Right to Erasure request, which anyone from EU (or UK since they retained this law after Brexit) can send in a PM to a Supervisor and we will delete your account.

If "no luck" is the complete, detailed, exhaustive description of what happens on your machine, I guess that we can end here our conversation, as it is pretty much pointless. Go trying helping people ... But if you have a friend that writes .bat files for you, and they "work great", ask him/her to write a new batch capable of starting IE the way you want, you may have better luck . Have fun . jaclaz

seems like Microsoft has just declared the 1809 version "business ready" and is now available in the SAC channel. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Windows-IT-Pro-Blog/Windows-10-version-1809-designated-for-broad-deployment/ba-p/389540 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10/release-information and there are new refresh ESDs & ISOs of 1809 available that contain build 17763.379