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The October 2020 version works if it is set to "big picture" mode. You will see store information and everything. But sometime after that, the login window switched to being rendered by CEF (Chromium) so it is not possible to sign in as there is no text, graphics or buttons on the login screen now. As for the Intel drivers, I have a couple of systems that can use them but they are in very poor shape. Various differences in rendering quality are known to exist between Vista and 7 and I don't want Vista to be compromised by any changes I do. So I'll try to do something that doesn't "change" Vista to its detriment. Also, the Vista extended kernel will be able to run Chromium 110 and 111, at least with --no-sandbox. I will try to get the sandbox working in time for the main release of Chromium 110 in February. I am adding the appropriate functions to kernel32 and userenv. I just checked the Chromium source code and discovered that the version nags are persistent now because they are not calling GetVersionEx* or similar to check the version, but they are checking the version number of kernel32 instead.

@legacyfan, could you post the links to articles you post, please? Always post the links, don't forget these, of course... Thank you!

Since 0x3e1c0000 seems to work for everything I've thrown at it (one x86 XP laptop, one x86 XP desktop, one x64 XP desktop, two Win10 x64 laptops), I'm getting ready to repackage everything, upload, and start a new thread dedicated to 13.5 build 1030. There still could be a "better" base address, not really sure. I literally just tacked via trial-and-error until I hit one that worked.

Just an off-topic thank you. That worked perfectly! I've also removed the Standby button, as that doesn't work as it should either, it goes into standby, but then you can't get it back out of it! Finally, no more having to force it off with the power button because I've forgotten that it doesn't standby or restart properly! Cheers, Dave.

10 years ago or more, I used to have both Firefox 3.5.x and 4 installed, in their own "Program Files" directories of course , each assigned its own separate profile via the method you detailed above ... The move by Mozilla from Fx-3.5.x/3.6.x to Fx-4.0 (and higher) introduced major profile incompatibilities in a way that whenever a Fx-3.x.x profile was (even once) touched by Fx-4.0+, it became corrupted beyond repair and could no more be used by Fx-3.x.x ... Launching the browser(s) via the dedicated shortcut(s) (pointing to the right profile) worked as expected, but... when I clicked a link inside a document (Word, PDF, etc.) or e-mail, often times catastrophe would strike ... Depending on which Fx version was configured as the system default browser (associated with these links), Fx-4.0 would open the link in the Fx-3.x.x profile (thus corrupting it), because the plain document/e-mail links don't contain the "-no-remote -p" options... So, I had to always keep a back-up of the Fx-3.x.x profile in case s**t happened (pardon the language ) ... Fortunately, in a later stage, I migrated to using the two different Firefox versions inside their dedicated "PortableApps.com" format (PAF) installations and had made IE9 the system browser - no "accidents" happened since, that is until Fx-3.x.x was ditched altogether and the "newer" Firefox was adopted permanently ... (Happy New Year to the frequenters of these threads )

Hardware firewall has been my best performing option. Also makes it so I don't have to tool around in the OS changing a bunch of things.

That Dr. Who character is the best portrayal of "vanity of vanities". Her name is Lady Cassandra. She claims to be the last "pure" human. But she's had so many surgeries performed over the years that she is nothing but the skin of a face stretched in a frame. The world revolves around Cassandra. Every other human still in existence is at her becking call to spritz her with a spray bottle of water so that she doesn't dry out. She reminds me of people on this forum. We are all just here minding our own business and yet some here are so into themselves that any and every move any of us makes is somehow turned and twisted into revolving around their own little universe. I'd say it's fun to watch. But it isn't. Dr. Who, on the other hand, that is fun to watch!

It supposed to ! This topic tells not working on Windows 7.

ive blocked him for good this time (please no more fighting @D.Draker)

It is random.org not .com Anyways, sites with Cloudflare DDOS protection have has a pre-loader message for a few years now. It is only recently that 1) random.org has had it (it appeared shortly after that large cookie notice that takes up the top 1/4 of the page) and 2) the Cloudflare message changed the text to checking if secure. It is also possible that websites that are using the Cloudflare service are not aware that some browsers can't pass this message. But I also wonder if these same browsers were able to pass the old pre-loader message that Cloudflare used to use.

New regular/weekly KM-Goanna release: https://o.rthost.win/kmeleon/KM76.4.7-Goanna-20221231.7z Changelog: Out-of-tree changes: * update Goanna3 to git 83a04cbfb3..9af8eeaf15: - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1202386: Add logging macros for HAL IPC, r=shuang (246eb96f38) - Bug 1202386: Output clear HAL IPC errors, r=shuang (eaba0dc9a8) - Bug 1202704: Move Bluetooth IPC pack functions to generic HAL IPC, r=shuang (4c745de79c) - Bug 1202704: Move Bluetooth IPC unpack functions to generic HAL IPC, r=shuang (4f8600030b) - Bug 1202704: Move Bluetooth's |UnpackPDUInitOp| to generic HAL IPC code, r=shuang (345f21c637) - Bug 1209085: Add 6-argument operator () to |UnpackPDUInitOp|, r=joliu (f5f8cf2dd9) - Bug 1123760 - make autocomplete dropmarker in the urlbar actually work when activated through a11y APIs, r=surkov (eee42195f4) - Bug 1123760 - bustage follow-up: remove unused variable, rs=bustage on a CLOSED TREE (6de8519b23) - Bug 1152836 - QR Decoder: Let everywhere, style nits: 580ms -> 400ms r=past (92a7fd6a15) - Bug 1212430 - Remove CrashAtUnhandlableOOM() and replace with AutoEnterOOMUnsafeRegion r=jandem (f595b87951) - Bug 1175755 - Only clear GC statistics aborted flag at the end of the outermost nested GC r=bbouvier (ca73f34c69) - reapply Bug 1221385 - Handle OOM during JitRuntime (e7def65b78) - No bug: Clarify documentation for js::NewObjectMetadataState. DONTBUILD r=fitzgen (41022b4137) - Bug 1211164 - Collect JS deprecated language extension telemetry for Add-ons. r=till,bsmedberg (eacd40ad66) - Bug 1212296 - undo a state change on OOM. r=till (6e272353d0) - Bug 1214006 - Take account of the fact that JSScript::atoms may be null while tracing r=terrence (19f61d7494) - missing bits of Bug 1208665 (c31173b0d4) - Bug 1221891 - "Fix a typo in TraceLoggingGraph.h". r=hv1989 (e1fc11f8df) - Bug 1221460 - "TraceLogger: Enable several new optimizations in 'TLLOG=IonCompiler'". r=hv1989 (ab3398646e) - Bug 1204365 - Repair external view source file name and extension. r=mconley (f033e55a0e) - Bug 1163693 - Fix View Source external editor fallback. r=jryans. (9c8becc93b) - Bug 1207629 - Don't assume that viewSourceUtils.js has Services in scope. r=jryans (07977953c0) - add back some telemetry (1e3b5bde5b) - Bug 1186785 - Replace nsBaseHashtable::EnumerateRead() calls in toolkit/ with iterators. r=froydnj. (e93e098dd8) - add back some crashreporter (80e325b3be) - Bug 1220035 - Fix -Wimplicit-fallthrough warnings in xpcom. r=mccr8 (2ef9ecad5f) - Bug 1215629 - Remove nsDebug logger. r=froydnj (46784f05fd) - Bug 1137963 - Use a spin lock for TraceRefCnt. r=waldo, r=froydnj (b2420c97c0) - Bug 1196430 - part 1 - rename serialNumberRecord to SerialNumberRecord; r=mccr8 (933670070d) - Bug 1196430 - part 2 - give SerialNumberRecord a proper constructor; r=mccr8 (3ddf3d5e69) - Bug 1196430 - part 3 - remove unnecessary nsString.h include from nsTraceRefcnt.cpp; r=mccr8 (034954e692) - Bug 1196430 - part 4 - record allocation stacks for classes in XPCOM_MEM_LOG_CLASSES; r=mccr8 (366b612807) - Bug 1196430 - part 5 - dump allocation stacks for leaked objects in XPCOM_MEM_LOG_CLASSES; r=mccr8 (dce7b9cca2) - Bug 1180745 - Fix logging test screenshotting errors. r=jgriffin (a589f0d322) - Bug 1091285 - move dumpScreen in a new mozscreenshot package. r=jgriffin This also completely remove build/automationutils.py. (6e633359ef) - some crashreporter stuff (2d0bc9c95d) - Bug 1196430 - part 6 - move cut-and-paste stack fixer code into mozrunner; r=wlach (ffc7ccd521) - Bug 1196430 - part 7 - teach process_leak_log how to symbolicate leaked object stacks; r=mccr8 (0b5a4ace7c) - Bug 1196430 - part 8 - use less reinterpret_cast in nsTraceRefcnt.cpp; r=mccr8 (758cfca0aa) - Bug 1196430 follow-up: Hide the usage of gCodeAddressService behind #ifdef MOZ_STACKWALKING (e8d62dd73e) - Bug 487494 - Add an xpcshell selftest for readable stacks from assertions.;r=ted (ea15cf3cbb) - Bug 1156977 - Assert when aClassName is empty in BloatEntry. r=froydnj Bug 1116550 - Part 1: Turn HaveLeaks and Clear into methods. r=froydnj (8d7f88f498) - Bug 1116550 - Part 2: Print out negative values for leaks when there are more dtors than ctors. r=froydnj (7c9e3e7848) - Bug 1190483 - Add a way to record a DMD log late in shutdown. r=erahm (df7c22e64d) - Bug 1174344 - make error message for mismatched leak log entries more helpful; r=mccr8 (7f969e72c0) - Bug 1190483 - Followup to address review comment. (d3873f76fd) - Bug 1186025. Optimize the usage of regions. r=mstange (263080a66e) - Bug 1211841 - Style off the main thread markers differently, r=jsantell (1a183c5d3e) - Bug 1211839 - Don't allow off the main thread markers to nest under main thread markers, r=smaug, jsantell (f4d4b7ccf1) - Bug 1207161 - fix run-by-dir leak in test_bug846906.xul; r=mccr8 (5511752103) - Bug 1205348 - Always do shutdown CCs when NS_FREE_PERMANENT_DATA is defined. r=smaug (7fd7a7455c) - Bug 1208157, part 1 - Add and use nsCycleCollector::IsIdle() predicate. r=smaug (a06c2bd1db) - Bug 1208157, part 2 - Make the fields of nsCycleCollector private. r=smaug (494637fbef) - Bug 1207368 - Use swap() instead of forget() to remove MessageElement::mMessage. r=froydnj (8c58d38a55) - Bug 1181520 - Remove support for passing in reftest arguments via the command line, r=jmaher (75e9440e40) - Bug 1196814 - Fail Android mochitest, robocop, reftests when Fennec is not installed; r=jmaher (6ec15636eb) - Bug 1183717 - Increase default timeout for Android Debug reftests; r=jmaher (1b07fc1c9b) - Bug 1181516 - Allow reftests to take paths to multiple directories containing tests on the command line, r=jmaher (1e27ef0d69) - Bug 1198944 - remove vmware recording support from mochitest; r=khuey (06e79556fb) - Bug 1162003 - Enable run-by-dir mode on Fx desktop opt builds. r=jmaher (0ef288a33c) - Bug 1087629 - Add two new test cases for ICE connection states. r=ekr (374112f2d0) - Bug 1186551 - [mozlog] add structured action process_start/process_exit. r=jgraham (13ce88dbf7) - Bug 1154111 - Colorize SKIP in test logs. r=jgraham (85910e0f8b) - Bug 1191267 - Fix mozlog log buffering command line option, r=chmanchester (2bd6592f9b) - Bug 1185244 - Improve mach support for running mochitests on Valgrind. r=jgraham, njn. (7f5a830fa0) - Bug 1219870 - [mozlog] ensure correct suite state when logging suite_start/suite_end via StructuredLogger.log_raw, r=chmanchester (21710387a4) - Bug 1198257 - Better support for providing a directory name and discovering reftests under that directory, r=jmaher (f6255fc44c) - Bug 1208220 - Remove test of manifest filename that breaks my workflow. r=jgraham (ae4e45946d) - Bug 1186888 - [mozlog] Ability to use a pre-existing logger with commandline.setup_logging(), r=jgraham (80dfa2a8a8) - Bug 1042998 - Use StructuredLog.jsm for mochitest logging, r=chmanchester (8851b1b6f9) - Bug 1218010 - Shorten the polling interval when waiting for httpd.js startup in mochitest. r=ahal (a1f2c81a8e) - Bug 1224305 - Add an option to the mochitest harness to provide a copy of the extra chrome manifest it writes. r=ahal (e617971f41) - Bug 1170342 - Don't disable XInput2 for mochitests on GTK3, off by default now. r=karlt (05d53439da) - Bug 1145375 - Don't kill the debugger if the user Ctrl-C's as running a mochitest; r=ted (6c310500b8) - Bug 1199241 - Average runtime data across platforms instead of keeping it distinct, r=jgriffin (cd497f509c) - Bug 1157852 - Mochitest DevTools test directories run multiple times. r=ahal (415ab41a3a) - Bug 1186791 (part 1) - Replace nsBaseHashtable::EnumerateRead() calls in storage/ with iterators. r=mak. (84f6f1f566) - Bug 1186791 (part 2) - Replace nsBaseHashtable::EnumerateRead() calls in storage/ with iterators. r=mak. (9c67504d0c) - Bug 1186791 (part 3) - Replace nsBaseHashtable::EnumerateRead() calls in storage/ with iterators. r=mak. (02f472c197) - Bug 1219238 - remove AutoArray from mozStorageSQLFunctions.cpp; r=mak (45e751d2b7) - Bug 1166931 - JS Warning in MobileIdentityManager.jsm r=ferjm (2022d4cccd) - var-const (b7800ec532) - Trivial, no bug: add missing semicolon to nsBlocklistService.js to avoid a strict warning. (ee6b8a7593) - Bug 1208242 - Part 1: hook up the blocklist service to b2g web extensions r=mossop,ferjm (d0ad653af4) - Bug 1208242 - Part 3: don't ship things that should not ship r=me (cd75e88080) - Bug 1009795 - Use toLocalString to format download size instead of the decimalSymbol hook; r=mak (a4b4442d2c) - Bug 1009795 - Part 2: Revert to the old gDecimalSymbol hack if the Internationalization API is not available; r=mak (465e23f2c3) - Bug 1116385. r=Mossop (f0a7b7d450) - let-var (cb5d9d1d07) - Bug 1210459: Add originAttributes for tests that implement nsILoadContext. r=bholley (ea6be1490a) - var-let (d7d4533b53) - Bug 1034724 - Fixed Unicode values of prefs in about:support. r=adw (1c8253ac5b) - Bug 1153381. Add a D3D11 ANGLE blacklist. r=mstange (9008483ca5) - add back some WIn XP and 2k3 stuff (896a4a7e9b) - Bug 1141783 - Correct user message for mismatched drivers. Don't mismatch if the DLLs are missing. r=jrmuizelaar (872d0c3aff) - missing members version (4771ff5f24) - bug 1170987 - Fix gfx/2d to build on iOS. r=jrmuizel (1e555cb6b3) - Bug 1201937 - push transform onto cairo context when evaluating path bounds. r=eihrul (6a4d8d98ec) - Bug 1165900 - Make MaybeSnapToDevicePixels return a boolean to indicate whether snapping occurred. r=Bas (8f33f6cf7d) - Bug 1190705 - Add crashtest for canvas 2d. r=Bas (bf3afb2acc) - Bug 1161277 - verify SkPath is finite before doing ContainsPoint queries. r=jmuizelaar (c56f9ef322) - Bug 1218900 - Make shell function startTimingMutator() fail with an error rather than asserting when called at the wrong time r=sfink (856e8678ce) - small type fix (b36cfdf416) - Bug 1214846 - Make SPSProfiler::enter() report OOM to the context r=terrence (6086f60d17) - Bug 1218637 - IonMonkey: MIPS64: Add support into vm. r=arai (ae22538418) - gfx: add back `AddCrashReportAnnotations()` prototype (c13f61cd8a) (a51002fbca) - restore some configure.in changes to restore old vendor name (8823358c83) - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1125514 - Use jemalloc's metadata statistics to compute bookkeeping. r=glandium (541dbcfc6f) - Bug 1201462 - Don't count arena allocated metadata once per bin. r=glandium (57e7c31081) - back some warnings (377df69d65) - Bug 1219501. In imagelib, initialize the number of cores to at least 1 in case of error. r=seth (3d7d1635f0) - Bug 1219501. Limit total number of image decoding threads to 32 regardless of number asked for. r=seth (829a7a623d) - Bug 1213744 (Part 1) - Support zero-size frame rects and detecting the end of the frame in Downscaler. r=tn (05e29075cc) - Bug 1213744 (Part 2) - Clamp the GIF frame rect to the visible rect for DDD and don't decode outside it. r=tn (8a25e10a3e) - Bug 1194837. Don't use the inverse orientation matrix when computing the image space invalidate rect. r=seth (cb5e4c2643) - Bug 1214054 - Don't fire DECODE_COMPLETE in VectorImage::OnSVGDocumetError(). r=dholbert (bb7c34e46f) - Bug 1195878 - If we detect animation during a full decode, drop the results of the full decode on the floor. r=tn (a765af2b68) - Bug 1210553 - Remove the alternate flags arguments from SurfaceCache's Lookup functions. r=dholbert (15c6124f98) - Bug 1217320 - Remove more XPIDL signature comments in .cpp files. r=froydnj (411ac93047) - Bug 1186796 - Replace nsBaseHashtable::EnumerateRead() calls in image/ with iterators r=njn (665773ae6d) - Bug 1186792 - Replace nsBaseHashtable::EnumerateRead() calls in hal/ with iterators. r=dhylands. (d57c6b11da) - Bug 1187142 - Replace nsBaseHashtable::Enumerate() calls in hal/ with iterators. r=dhylands. (ec05c5b125) - Bug 1186793 - Replace nsBaseHashtable::EnumerateRead() calls in gfx/ with iterators r=njn (9b3cdd92ce) - Bug 1215900 - Fix clang's -Wimplicit-fallthrough warnings in gfx/ipc/ GfxMessageUtils.h. r=mstange (f55605f1fe) - Bug 618898 - Part 1: Add WGL_NV_DX_interop. r=jgilbert (73390398ed) - Bug 618898 - Add D3D11SharedSurfaceInterop. r=jgilbert (3dde956b85) - Bug 1208513 - Resurrect SharedSurface_GLTexture for use on iOS r=jgilbert (b0fdc90414) - Bug 1150760 - Don't call workaround unless necessary. - r=kamidphish (9bdd135931) - Bug 1151106 - let debugger stop on each iteration of a "for(;;)" loop; r=jimb (b1b921c3a7) - Bug 1223652 - Remove redundant else block after return statement in CGBlockScopeList::findEnclosingScope. r=arai (f1368bfc73) - Bug 1219515 - IonMonkey: Fix ThrowIfNotConstructing was not declared. r=evilpie (1d6cedad10) - Bug 1224044 - Use stable hashing in SavedFramePtrHasher r=terrence (4389cf1b70) - Bug 1206596: Change js::SavedStacks to use mozilla::FastBernoulliTrial. r=fitzgen (1c4a8d1929) - Bug 1206357: Add mfbt/FastBernoulliTrial.h, implementing efficient random sampling. r=waldo (7143e53dba) - No bug: Fix comment in mfbt/FastBernoulliTrial.h. DONTBUILD r=me (e3343f8d9d) - Bug 1217919 - Separate dynamic module scopes from those of function calls r=shu (521f6826e5) - Bug 1202568 - Cherry-pick warning fixes from upstream double-conversion. r=Ms2ger (ef738f753b) - add back some disabled android stuff (0351b0c518) - Bug 1135261 - return new window from window.open in desktop runtime; r=marco,smaug,junior,wesj (fa4d8f2468) - Bug 898075 - Remove the mozbrowserasyncscroll event from Gecko. r=botond,kanru,sicking (b1fdcb7630) - namespace (91374d2db8) (9af8eeaf15) * Notice: the changelog above may not always applicable to XULRunner code which K-Meleon uses. A goanna3 source tree that has kmeleon adaption patch applied is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/tree/kmeleon76

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20221231-3219d2d-uxp-120ac6d55-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20221231-3219d2d-uxp-120ac6d55-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20221231-3219d2d-uxp-120ac6d55-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20221231-d849524bd-uxp-120ac6d55-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20221231-d849524bd-uxp-120ac6d55-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20221231-d849524bd-uxp-120ac6d55-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win64-git-20221231-d849524bd-uxp-120ac6d55-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Follow-up #2060 - Correctly handle \k in non-unicode expressions (904ddfa28) - Issue #2063 - Ensure a floated ::first-letter inherits from ::first-line. (09cbcd341) - Issue #2065 - Part 2: Expand pattern when track file is created rather than read (b67d7520b) - Issue #2065 - Part 3: Process install manifests with --track in the recursive make backend (558b83975) - Issue #2065 - Part 4: Revise comments and remove parts dependent on hybrid FasterMake/RecursiveMake backend (b1b4c7d0e) - Issue #2065 - Part 5: Fix incorrect inclusion of base file name in destination path for generated FasterMake track files (9c5136872) - No issue - Replace use of deprecated GetPreventDefault in GTK menu bar (704a1bcfa) - Issue #2068 - Only wrap the last line of inline elements when positively padding to the right. (ca3361fb5) - No issue - Fallthrough attributes must be terminated with semicolon. (5c505b86c) - Issue #2070 - When multiple HSTS headers are received, only consider the first. (c95a80207) - Issue #2053 - Disable DOM Performance API navigation timing. (9958e387d) - Issue #80 - Fix deprot in dom/base. (ba1887ff4) - Issue #80 - Fix deprot in js/src/irregexp. (507ed86ef) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt58l.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Build 1030 will be discussed in a separate thread -- https://msfn.org/board/topic/184266-arcticfoxienotheretoplaygames-360chrome-v135-build-1030/ Download links will be provided shortly.

Better late than never, sometimes just something silly to play in the background helps and you don't need to pay attention.

thanks! this would also make a good guide for anyone new to using the extended kernal (the pin request has been put in)

Yes, it is possible to get latest Firefox version working with extended kernel. Make sure you have the latest Extended Kernel. First, download the latest Firefox x64 installer from here. Then, to install Firefox, there are 2 ways: The first way (IMO, it is the easiest way to install Firefox, since you are spoofing its installer after unpacking it only ): 1- Extract the Firefox x64 installer with WinRAR (or 7-Zip) by right clicking on the installer and selecting Extract. 2- Open Notepad and put the following contents: [C:\Users\<username>\Downloads\Firefox Setup X\setup.exe] BuildNumber=7601 (replace <username> with the username you used on your computer, and replace X with the Firefox version that the installer will install, e.g. if the version of Firefox the installer will install is 108, replace X with 108.0) On File menu, click Save As, and save the file as osver.ini on the Desktop (you have to change the "Save as type" to "All Files" to save it as .ini, otherwise, it will save as osver.ini.txt), then move it to Windows folder in C:\ drive. 3- Open Firefox setup (named setup.exe) from the "Firefox Setup X" folder and follow the instructions. Once setup finishes, untick "Launch Firefox now". The second way (I use the first way, it's better IMO, than spoofing the entire OS just to run the installer unpacked ): 1- Open osver.ini (which was created Desktop, then moved to C:\Windows) and add the following contents: [Global] Enabled=1 MajorVersion=6 MinorVersion=1 2- Open Firefox setup (named Firefox Setup X.exe) and follow the instructions. Once setup finishes, untick "Launch Firefox now". If you followed the steps carefully for one of the above ways, congratulations, you have installed Firefox successfully! But, if you open Firefox immediately, you will notice that the font of Firefox isn't displayed properly! To fix this, open osver.ini and add the following contents: [C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe] Enabled=1 BuildNumber=7601 Done! You now have the latest Firefox working on Vista with extended kernel!

I have: RAM used after Windows boot (without browsers): 272/3071 MB (8%) RAM with 360Chrome 13.5 regular: 455/3071 MB (14%) (and with my 3 extensions for now....) 455-272=183 MB for 360Chrome... RAM with DCBrowser (ancient v.): 512/3071 MB (16%) (and with my all 11 extensions...) 512-272=240 MB for DCBrowser... I've NOT rebased...

I use different profiles for all my browsers. No sharing of profiles anymore for years. In the past, I made bad experiences with shared profiles which became suddenly corrupted. And I always keep backups of important profiles to be on the safe side. Happy New Year, too

Sorry, I made a mistake. I posted this here, cause I thought it could be helpful for developers who make extended kernels and such things. If someone would backport something to Windows Vista/7/8.1 (something that requires Win10) it should be easier to start from 1507 (2015) instead of 22h2/21h2 (2022/2021). Both versions of Windows 10 are really diferent despite of the name.

I suppose I could run with a default that work on x86 even though it will not work on x64. I have a strong hunch that MOST folks here on XP are all on x86. I think me and @UCyborg are the only two on x64.

Me too! With the original file, my RAM usage went from 48% to 75% when 360Chrome was run, with no tabs open. With the rebased file, it goes from 48% to 52%!

Sorry for the late response, Yes, I was able to see the movie, thank you.

Sorry if i wasn't clear enough, i didn't mean to I want to prevent this. What i would like is for both browsers to not interfere with each other, to behave like really separate browsers. The issue until now was that they share the profile index file profiles.ini - whichever profile is set as default in there loads regardless if you started NM27 or NM28. I mostly use NM27, and start NM28 only to test something, if i have an issue with some site, or if i want to quickly check a page and close the browser (here both NM27 and Serpent52 have over 150 tabs and start pretty slowly). The way i start NM28 is by using the -P parameter, which brings up the profile manager. This also means that i have to do the same the next time i start NM27. If the wrong browser gets launched accidentally, it will (most likely) mess up the current default profile. Last builds fixed this by making each browser have its own profiles.ini file. Now @roytam1 says this will be reverted in the next builds (if i didn't misunderstand something). Ugh... As i said previously, one way to have your cake and eat it would be to allow a copy of profiles.ini in the same folder as palemoon.exe to take priority over the file buried in "C:\Documents and Settings\". Hopefully, Roy gets the time (and desire) to implement this. The only issue is if Palemoon is in "C:\Program Files\", on newer Windows you would need to start it as admin to let it modify that file. But, since this is optional (and not needed for a single NM2x browser), you can just let the browser use the regular file in "C:\Users\".

@jaclazI did not block you it was D.Draker that i blocked (for his trolling of topic) and if I made it sound like I blocked you I'm sorry for the confusion you are my friend and I would never ever block you thanks-legacyfan

But I wasn't quoting DD this time (I blocked him for real this time), I only replied to jaclaz saying that I don't think legacyfan would block him, especially when he's a very wise member with a lot of helpful sources of information. You're not wrong about this, though. Have my upvote.

There's a tutorial that allegedly lets you run 16-bit apps on 64- bit. I don't know if it works but there are some comments below that say it does.

Best to use the Direct Link option instead of BBCode. The forum does not fully support BBCode anymore unfortunately, the editor will parse it but it gets stripped from posts after submit. Future IPB updates may remove it entirely.

@AstroSkipper - I think you kind of missed one of @UCyborg's main points. There is literally nothing to gain in this community by jumping through your normal hoops to always prove yourself correct and everybody else incorrect. We can all be "equals" even if we all have very different IQ's. Masters learn from their students. Here is my suggestion. Can we post this "issue" on a WiseVector StopX forum and gain some insights from its own user-base? Even without ASLR, a computer can run twenty different programs that all "default" to the same exact base address and all twenty of those programs will run without any BSOD's despite NONE OF THEM being able to land on their "default" base address. There is something else amiss with your computer if you are getting BSOD's. Posting on a WiseVector StopX forum should in the very least IMPROVE the product for future versions.

"make the L and the F capital" is too long .... jaclaz

You don't have to pick up the right profile with each start - just create two shortcuts with the right targets and put them to your desktop / start menu / quick launch bar, f.e.: target: C:\program files\NewMoon27\palemoon.exe -no-remote -p default target: C:\program files\NewMoon28\palemoon.exe -no-remote -p default2 So you still have a choice, but I don't see a way to circumvent different profile folders and still use the same profile in NM27 and NM28. kind regards soggi

It has to support rebasing due to Windows executable design, which is not position-independent. ASLR on Vista+ is just implemented in a way that when the DLL is first used (same should apply for EXEs), it will reuse the same random address in subsequent processes. Though looking at my Win10, this doesn't always seem to be the case, choosing two processes for comparison, one native executable and one .NET executable, the .NET one had differing addresses in two instances of the process. DLLs had to have relocation tables in any case due to possibility of conflicts, old EXEs did not have them, they're always first inside the address, but since ASLR is the thing, EXEs have the relocation table well so they can be relocated freely inside address space by the ASLR feature. Edit: Perhaps .NET executables/images are different, but native .NET images might behave the same as normal native images, not sure.

Based on my experience with Vulkan on Vista-compatible NVIDIA drivers, I would not be so quick to pin the issues on user-mode components. I'm not sure if there were any major changes to D3D9 since Vista brought in D3D9Ex. I would have to do a binary diff of the Vista SP2 and 7 SP1 D3D9 binaries...

I have them all set to default.

Well, I meant that the OS will rebase in memory/pagefile when it's loaded if there's a conflict, that causing BSODs is really strange. I tried WiseVector StopX really quick in a VM, couldn't install in that old messy XP x86 SP3 VM, the installer crashed, but I could load it on XP x64. Seems to put quite a strain on the CPU when Chrome does something, though I couldn't crash the system. Maybe I'll try again at some point with fresh XP SP3.

Standard 32 bit Chromium works as well, including extensions. But Steam and Discord do not work properly yet. Steam can connect to the Internet again, but the Chromium parts of it don't display anything and logs are not very helpful at this time. They are continuing to add functions to Chromium 111, and I was able to run that with --no-sandbox, but not with sandbox yet.

@UsefulAGKHelper Original razzle is ideal to compile anything from leaked sources, just cd to directory and build any .sys/.exe/.dll To show BSOD info on UEFI screen i think a lot of things need to rewrite or create from scratch, technicaly BSOD screen is text screen rendered by bios fonts, so in win8/win10 no more text mode, only hires screen with bsod code

I just wanted to put my final reply to you in this subject, thank you. Doesn't matter to me, I love reading from that website, as it is one of the best websites for tech news. Again, me being unable to understand things like this doesn't really relate with my English. I just didn't understand them. I wasn't writing to you for this reason. Also, no thanks, I would rather continue studying English than being charged for lessons. Anyway, this is my last reply to this subject. You can reply with what you want, but I won't reply any further to this to avoid derailing this topic. Have a nice day.

I mostly remember 1977/78/79, no earlier years. I was at a concert with my grandmother in 1979, yes I think it was 1979 or 78, maybe . The band called Rockets, they were French, but sang in English, nice band, the accent is heavy though. But they aren't Disco, more like space rock style. I mean the original French Rockets, not the later para-Rockets with a very weak Italian singer. And Disco came here mostly in the eighties, and I didn't like it, sorry.

Thank you @roytam1

... As I added later, it's because of: with Goanna versions being different between Pale Moon (5.2.1, but recently changed to 6.0.0 in official UXP master) and the UXP forks (4.8.6) discussed in this thread...

Off-topic, but you can actually use Dropbox to share these things (rhetoric question)? I used to share something using it, but after some time, my link errored that the account's public links are generating too much traffic. I wonder if the limits these days are the same than they were few years back. On-topic, is there a changelog for official builds? What's the difference between 1030 and 2022 and why would one be slower than the other, both being Chrome 86?

Same in official Pale Moon, works in SeaMonkey.

It is NOT an intentional change, upstream pushed some changes that removing some PM changes which effectively/finally changed vendor name in resulting binary. a fix that reverts such changes is pushed to tree and will be available with old vendor name in next build.

Sorry, a bit late due to Christmas... The mirror of latest ArcticFox 40, BNavigator 0.9, Firefox 45ESR, IceApe 52, IceDove 52, K-Meleon 1.5.x/74/76, MailNews 52, New Moon 26.5/27/28, RetroZilla, RZ browser and Serpent 52/55 builds by @roytam1 has been updated -> soggi.org - tools. changelog: - added latest BNavigator 0.9 20221224 build - added latest IceApe 52 20221224 build - added latest IceDove 52 20221224 build - added latest K-Meleon 76 20221224 build - added latest MailNews 52 20221224 build - added latest New Moon 27 20221224 builds - added latest New Moon 28 20221224 builds - added latest Serpent 52 20221224 builds - added latest Serpent 55 20221224 builds To don't lose track of things I want to update too someday... todo: - add various flash player versions - add FlashFix for WinXP - add VLC 2.2.8 (WinXP non-SSE2) - add polyfill addons ------------------------------------------- OMG - even inside the most casual correspondence this is unacceptable! The first impression counts - so the check of the first word is extremely important! LOL I had no problems using the same profiles with NM27 and NM28 (beside some expected due to different code base). Hm... have to check if this doesn't work anymore now!? I always just replace the program folders. Edit: OK, I just tested NM27 right now and it couldn't access the profile which it's shortcut was linked to before because it now links to ..\Moonchild\Pale Moon\.. instead of ..\Moonchild Productions\Pale Moon\.. - see screenshot below. kind regards soggi

I've blocked him as well (for good reasons)

Updated DCBrowser: - Applied delcert and libase to several DLLs and to the EXE file (detailed list on TXT file). - Added a custom launcher for DCB (BATCH file for the browser) (needs to be in the same place the "DcBrowser.exe" is). - Changed location of DCB download (Now Internet Archive) Download --> https://archive.org/download/360EE_Modified_Version Regarding the launcher ("DCB-Launcher.bat"), it forces the browser to create the user data folder in the same place as the executable of the program, if you don't want this you can easily remove the flag "--user-data-dir" in the launcher. The launcher is a separate download. This is also a test, if it works well for the people using this browser I will do it to the rest of the browsers I share. I want to know if everything goes well. Cheers.

It is done

Were you able see this movie, mina? Just silly flick, really. Enjoy

It occurs when the component object model of Microsoft Update or Windows Update (mainly ActiveX, etc.) is not available for some reason. So if it's blocked and cannot be downloaded, the error occurs.