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It would be the latter, just like how they tried to remove Aero Glass from Chromium on Vista. Everything going forward is to target Windows 10. Honestly if they want to break it properly on Windows 8.x, they just have to move some of the DPI functions from being delay-loaded to the main import table.

Hi all and merry X-mass, I got bored and with the help of @Dixel and some amount of inspiration I sometimes get from @win32, I butchered the latest Opera 96 (110) to make it run on our beloved Vista ! This chinese browser Opera is based on the newest Chrome 110, which is officially supported only on Win 10 +. Also, I forced it to use its native hardware Skia engine 110. (which is now blocked on win 7 by default). For those who still drive their Sd.Kfz.8, Opera 95 and Chrome 109 are the last for win 7, so as of now, win 7 and the extended kernel for Vista are not able to run the 110 Chrome version. Please don't ask me about running it on WIn 7, I don't know (or won't tell) anything. In theory, it's possible for win 7 to run it. But only if you edit the browser code. (which is forbidden). Only Vista related questions. Thanks. Opera EULA says we can't edit their code, so I shall share my hacks/findings with @win32 and maybe he will be able to implement this in his next kernel release, so all of you could run it without the editing hacks.

Thus far, I'm kind of "mixed" on rebasing chrome.dll. I believe that we have to look at the entire picture and not base "everything" off of reducing RAM consumption. I've seen people jump up-and-down with ecstatic exuberation over saving a mere 3 MB of RAM - I don't understand that, at all, to be honest. Make no mistake, RAM consumption is cut drastically when we "rebase" chrome.dll. BUT it also comes at a COST. On my Intel Core2 Quad Q6700, my first launch coming out of hibernate or full-shutdown increased from 4 to 6 seconds (already too high but inline with Mypal, NM, St, and BNav!) to over 14 seconds (simply unacceptable!).

Install Edge on a Windows 7 computer and then copy the files from Program Files to the Program Files on Vista. Be warned, it is buggy. It will most likely start on the first try, but subsequent tries may not be successful.

I guess what I was getting at is how much work is there in the background for providers to set things up. Because maybe where PlayReady is supported, it'll last longer before it stops working on Windows 7. I also saw those functions you mention and they're definitely not in vanilla kernel32.dll of Vista SP2. So Widevine can't work on vanilla Vista since they're hard dependencies and the lack of those functions would result in failure loading Widevine DLL.

OMG ... sadly you're too young, I was a child (73) when Disco was starting to downfall and I got to see my parents and grandparents dance it. The music was so awesome and (not fiction) I got to see 'the the late great' Donna Summer in concert and she was so great even way way after the era ended. Till this day I never get sick of: Dim All The Lights youtube.com/watch?v=2Glgzy_q2Zc Was so funny, very sweaty times LMAO. Ok and okay ... will be turning everything off shortly

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Oops, mea culpa , you're correct ; DCBrowser v4.0.1.4 was the first based on Ch75, and next v4.0.2.4 was the first based on Ch75 to run under XP SP3; DCBrowser did not change its Chrome Core to v86 until v5.0.1.48, but that one required Win7SP1+ to launch ... I must've confused DCBrowser with another Chinese browser based on Ch55 and popular with the XP community ... My deepest apologies (previous post of mine shall be edited ) ...

hi. Google OAuth 2.0 was worked. http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/2027057.html

Merry Christmas! The tree in this gif looks like a disco ball spinning.

Merry Christmas @sunryze, @Nerdulater, @D.Draker, @mina7601, @msfntor @legacyfan, @UCyborg, @xpw10

Can confirm. 7.0.0 installs normally but unfortunately it shows "This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem." error upon launch. The latest test build of 6.1.x (6.1.41) does still work though.

StartAllBack 3.5.7

That's an impressive accomplishment!

Thanks for the clarification ; because the quote by @Humming Owl in your previous post was specifically referring to the WidevineCDM, not the underlying browser engine of DCB_v4.0.7.22 ... Χρόνια Πολλά και Καλή Χρονιά!

Does it works in Vista without the extended kernel?

See if --disable-windows10-custom-titlebar changes it.

the WidevineCDM does not work the browser works. That is i am talking about

Perhaps you all still have some hope, I ported chinese browser Opra 96 (Chrome 110) to Vista. https://msfn.org/board/topic/184249-chrome-110-based-opera-i-ported-it-to-vista/

Well, times have changed , looks like it. I tested a long time ago , and it had a separated "free" IP section.

@Dietmar I got it:

This improvement is rare. I have a plan to make an addon for multiple languages based on the original ricktendo addon. Anyone have this update for multiple languages? I am now finished building windows xp tablet pc edition 2005 addon for multi language. and works fine If you want, the link is on the My Discord Server. Support for : RVM Integrator https://discord.gg/Q9dsSZQRAp

Its has been so long since I used My Toshiba Tablet. That Tablet received a lot of work hours, The Styler, "pen".. I repaired it at some point and gave it to someone I know, who made use out of it. Looking for the picture of it to post here. If I find the picture I'll update the post. * Found it.

I actually thought (as I've seen how much knowledge you have in JS and in browsers stuff/components in general) that you checked its JS engine or something like that and discovered it was a faked Chromium 75 (IIRC it has happened with some Chromium browsers that they are disguised as newer versions but they are in reality an older version).

Back home from travels. Very limited testing thus far, but I cannot seem to be able to isolate any system gain or system degradation with comparing compressed loader to uncompressed loader. Only tested on x64 tonight, will revisit on another low-end x86 within the next day or two. Reminder that UPX (and PE) is an "in-place" decompression. UPX (and PE) is not like .NET assembly compression where the file is decompressed and that decompressed file is used "instead of" the compressed file. For UPX (and PE), the COMPRESSED file is being used DIRECTLY by the OS. It isn't decompressed on-the-fly and the decompressed exists side-by-side with the compressed and the OS uses the decompressed instead. Rather, the OS is using the COMPRESSED file DIRECTLY.

Looks like Humming Owl has a modified version that OP @WinClient5270 omitted.

Are you talking about the browsers themselves? If so, yes, I know they're both Vista SP2 compatible... And I believe both are supplied in 32-bit flavours ; my original query was for the latest WidevineCDM v4.10.4557.0 (32-bit) transplanted into either one; does it then work in the linked test page under a fresh browser profile? Extrapolating from my findings in Vista SP2 32-bit tells me it should not work in Vista SP2 64-bit without the Extended Kernel (aka "vanilla x64") ... @UCyborg, time permitting, could you be able to shed more light on this? Thanks ...

There are four separate directories, not two: New Moon 27's profiles go under "Moonchild\Pale Moon" New Moon 28's profiles go under "Moonchild Productions\Pale Moon" Serpent 52's profiles go under "Moonchild Productions\Basilisk" Serpent 55's profiles go under "Moonchild\Basilisk" As crazy as that sounds, it actually works! In this case credit for discovering the workaround goes not to Moonchild but to kris_88. More info here: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=234631#p234631 Does make me wonder, though, why the heck the Goog added performance navigation timing function calls to Google Translate's Javascript! On suspicion that it's yet another sneaky way to fingerprint Web browsers, I'd recommend turning it off even if it didn't break anything! Moonchild said he'd make the default "false" in the next PM release. Anyone needing it (probably just Web developers) can always turn it back on.

Dito!

Thank you, will toggle it to false and merry Christmas.

The worksround for translate.google.com is to set the dom.enable_performance_navigation_timing preference to false.

Seems videos originate from YouTube, at least that's what it seemed after checking few. You just reminded me of my previous computer, it was all sluggish 'til it warmed up. Seems to be Chromium 75 based indeed. I guess update URL was cleared from the binaries, so browser doesn't pick the current version, but latest Widevine from Chrome 108 works with it on recent enough OS. I wonder if Netflix and such require Widevine specifically. Would PlayReady CDM also work or does it have to be supported specifically (from little searching it could be the case)? Because on that test site, PlayReady from Edge 94 still works.

I do. MS Spyware; period! ESENT.dll Have a look under: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ESENT\Process] ....and you'll get the creeps at how much it is tracking and spying ... we did address this quite some time ago and it was (sorry, memory faulty, not computer RAM, maybe their recollection is better then I) @D.Draker and @NotHereToPlayGames that detected this and we were (ATTEMPTING TO) replace the native firewall in XP with Comodo Firewall, but I'll admit I reverted back and away from Comodo and just delete the processes on that reg key. Too much hassle. Server Database Storage Engine Sorry, maybe I can locate our old posting, but a search here in the search box pulled nothing. EDIT: If you axe it, your firewall won't start and you'll need to find an alternative. Maybe I'll revisit it again.

Relevant upstream support forum thread: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=29165 @Mathwiz ...

No idea what these are Can't do that, the first reason being because I don't know how and also because I believe it is hardcoded. You should be able to change the default search engine on the settings of the browser. AFAIK, I thought it was based on Chromium 75

The last version of the Google WidevineCDM that was compatible with Vista SP2 (32-bit/64-bit) was v4.10.1196.0 (digitally signed on 20181009); all later versions contained one (or more) call(s) to APIs that are only found on Win7 SP1 and up... v4.10.1196.0 originally shipped with Chrome 70; that version, of course, wouldn't launch under Vista SP2, but the CDM could be transplanted into 360EEv11/v12/v13 and there it worked until it got deprecated/revoked by Widevine Licence Servers on 20190814 (FWIW, that was the same date on which WVCDM v1.4.9.1088 - that ships with Serpent 52.9.0 - was also revoked ) ... Currently, the only supported version of the CDM that is "whitelisted" by the Lic Servers is v4.10.2557.0 (digitally signed on 20220923); the immediately previous one, v4.10.2449.0, has been recently revoked ... Probing the 32-bit widevinecdm.dll v4.10.2557.0 with DW reveals two calls to GetThreadGroupAffinity TryAcquireSRWLockExclusive which are not available inside Vista SP2's kernel32.dll system file... @shelby : If you're using Vista's Extended Kernel (by win32) on Vista SP2 64-bit, you should clarify that, because a "generic" claim like the one I quoted may lead to misunderstandings... DCBrowser 4.0.7.22 (discussed in the posts above yours) is based on Chromium 75; WVCDM v4.10.2557.0 demands at least Chromium 68: { "manifest_version": 2, "update_url": "https://clients2.google.com/service/update2/crx", "name": "WidevineCdm", "description": "Widevine Content Decryption Module", "version": "4.10.2557.0", "minimum_chrome_version": "68.0.3430.0", "x-cdm-module-versions": "4", "x-cdm-interface-versions": "10", "x-cdm-host-versions": "10", "x-cdm-codecs": "vp8,vp09,avc1,av01", "x-cdm-persistent-license-support": true, "x-cdm-supported-encryption-schemes": [ "cenc", "cbcs" ], "icons": { "16": "imgs/icon-128x128.png", "128": "imgs/icon-128x128.png" }, "platforms": [ { "os": "win", "arch": "x64", "sub_package_path": "_platform_specific/win_x64/" }, { "os": "win", "arch": "x86", "sub_package_path": "_platform_specific/win_x86/" }, { "os": "win", "arch": "arm64", "sub_package_path": "_platform_specific/win_arm64/" } ] } (you can grab WVCDM v4.10.2557.0 from within a Google Chrome 107+ installation) Testing site: https://bitmovin.com/demos/drm ... Sadly, the DARK side is that Google's DRM is spreading like metastatic aggressive cancer cells, it's EVERYWHERE now (when before it used to be only in paid-for media services); have a look inside youtube-dl/yt-dlp issue trackers and you'll see what I mean ... DRM is really EVIL (more so for users of "legacy" browsers on "legacy" systems); Google have recently abandoned Win7/8/8.1 in their browser, a not-so-distant WidevineCDM updated release will only run under Win10+ ...

He's referring to New Moon, also, the first time he wrote about this issue was here:

Dc Browser works fine in Vista

You forgot to mention which browser you are referring to.

Glad it finally worked for you! But in terms of Windows XP, my guide "General and specific solutions for problems regarding AU/WU/MU in Windows XP" is completely sufficient. And by the way, I personally have a complete, offline update archive with all updates for Windows XP. For the German edition, of course! I don't like relying on Microsoft's update servers, where everything concerning abandoned Windows operating systems could be deleted at any time.

Tested OK with ST52, 55 and NM28. Might break something else. Merry Christmas! --- dom.enable_performance_navigation_timing = false --- Thanks to wolfbeast... http://www.wolfbeast.com/about.html

Now Serpent and New Moon are going under the same directory. If you have 4 versions and only two names, you can't fit everything. Doesn't the randon number subdirectory underneath wary? (NM28: 4kpw3dp8.default, Basilisk: c6fz7ylx.default)

Yes, I agree; it's most likely that Google changed something, not a recent browser bug. Thanks for checking anyway!

tested some previous builds and same issue occurs, I think this is google-side problem. someone may check against official version to see if same problem will occur or not.

Enjoy Christmas.

This is the same for me on DCBrowser, one process first launch and nothing typed in the address bar (not even move the mouse into the text bar. Should this be in orange? Am I using the right Normaliz.dll. 23.0 KB Unicode Normalization DLL V 6.0.5441.0

Hi, I use WindowBlinds to skin my window borders but it seems to break with startisback. Applying a windowblinds theme will make all startisback elements glitch, the taskbar is all glitchy, windowblinds skins the taskbar and it seems like they conflict, but the start menu is just text and some very glitchy black boxes where the menu textures are supposed to be, the jump lists on the taskbar are black box where the text is supposed to be. I am wondering if this can be resolved, as I love windows 7 look and I don't want to buy start10 from same developer as I like startisback more. Any way to stop the glitches or disable one of the programs from skinning the taskbar. No process is there for startisback so I can't exclude it in windowblinds. I posted on windowblinds forum but decided to post here too if anyone can help.

Yeah, I remember giving WindowBlinds a try with StartIsBack relatively recently. Far as I can tell there's nothing you can really do unless one side or the other patches support for the other. My recommendation is to go with another Stardock application, Curtains, which is similar in concept to WindowBlinds but way more configurable and compatible with things. I'm using it and it works perfectly with StartIsBack. Your best bet if your set on using WindowBlinds is to use it with their start menu replacement software, Start10. You could also try your luck with Open Shell, but iirc that had the same issues with WindowBlinds as StartIsBack. Naturally it'd be nice for support between the two to be added. However, for now, my advice is to seek out a different combination of software, as these two applications just plain aren't going to work with one another in their current iterations.

OP needs to install (or upgrade to) a higher edition of Win2000 such as Windows 2000 advanced server, which does support 4 cores (though up to 8 CPUs or 8 cores) unlike the Pro edition blackwingcat is using Win2000 advanced server edition on one of his computers as I noticed on his web site Only server editions of Win2k will handle at least a quad-core CPU; Win2k Pro is only good enough for 2 CPUs or 2-core CPUs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2000 server = 4 CPUs w/ up to 4Gb of RAM advanced server = 8 CPUs w/ up to 8Gb of RAM datacenter server = 32 CPUs w/ up to 32Gb of RAM