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No versions of Windows are abandonware.

I'm sure it will. Hope is never lost for such OSes like these.

To answer this, yes. Just like XP and Vista (and 2000 I guess), 7 will still be usable and will continue to go strong (well I hope). And ESU support for Windows Embedded POSReady 7 ends on October 14, 2024. So idk if those updates will install on 7.

Very impressive! I was able to tweak my LTSB down to 29 processes and 290 threads. It's been a while since doing my tweaks but I seem to recall that the "default install" had somewhere between 48 and 60 processes! Don't recall the exact number, but it was a far cry from only 29

@vinifera @UCyborg @Jody Thornton take a look at my customized LTSB 2015 for a low profile fanless laptop with NVME ssd. I used files from windows 8.1 and windows beta 10.0.9888 (First beta with w10.0 kernel version & last beta with w8.1 theme style in taskbar & windows): uxtheme uxinit themeui shellstyle from 9888 & windows 8.1 theme folder c:\windows\resources\themes Only StartIsBack is used for the taskbar. Yes, processes and threads tweaked by me. Also take a look at the explorer without ribbon and explorer navigation arrows and icons... (imageres.dll from 8.1) caption buttons can be tweaked to make it look smaller like windows 8.1, titlebar font is the same as 8.1 button and dialog style can be changed too to be more like 8.1 but wasn't done in the screenshot. (you can see inactive window black border... w10 dwm? ) No patches. All files are MS original from other builds:

here is the place to post your favorite wallpapers for christmas (kind of like the old wallpaper thread but Christmas themed). anyways here are some cute christmas time wallpapers I found (all credit goes to the creators)

@WinWord2000 Try tagging some of the people who are posting in the XP thread, as I've tagged you above. That will draw this thread to their attention. They may say that they have no interest in working with Windows 2000, but at least then you'll know!

(update) I have now turned this into a Christmas wallpaper thread so please post your favorite wallpapers here! (phone wallpapers are welcome also)

4K Beautiful Christmas Wallpapers: https://newevolutiondesigns.com/4k-beautiful-christmas-wallpapers ...and this one I like:

That's completely impressive!

Btw @msfntor, sorry for not responding to your posts, I've been away from my laptop for a day, so I didn't get to see your replies here and reply.

Welcome back @XPerceniol, good to see you here again!

That's my techno brother ! I was worried sick, you know !

Hi, Thank you, and I will stay, and thank you to all that reached out to offer insight. I think a much needed break is exactly what the doctor ordered and gives me time to reflect and not react on emotions alone. Be well everyone, I'm fine just getting back to real life matters. I kid you not, part of an addictive personality involves even online forums and I need to recognize it before it takes over.

Let's not start talking about upvotes and likes again. That thread was closed for a reason, do not hijack another thread just to resurface its discussion.

Some thing I have been work on in my very little free time. You know "Browservice" project right? He made a software that pushes endless stream of JPEG images to the browser that contain a website rendered by Chromium engine. Complete with fake address bar and front end JavaScript to capture keyboard and mouse. The idea sounds so ridiculous, so crazy, but it actually works on almost every OS and almost every old browser. Problem of "Browservice" is it doesn't feel convincing. IE constantly downloading images and status bar goes crazy (it appears that the memory leak exists). Also very slow when website has a animating. I did something similar but using RDP. Only for IE5 and IE6. Should work Win98/ME/2000/XP<SP3. I develop in XPSP2 IE6 and WinME IE 5.5 for now. Since it's ActiveX control, I am inside of IEXPLORE.EXE and have full control (that's how drive-by downloads installed spyware and virus back in the days). I use the power to intercept the menu, toolbar, address bar, status bar, etc. IE becomes only a bit of GUI under my control. All commands are redirected to remote server running Chromium engine there. RDP has the feature "Virtual Channel" to send messages (WTSVirtualChannelOpen etc.) My implementation so far browsing experience feels 99% like using real Internet Explorer because RDP protocol is much faster and get clipboard support, access to local hard drive, sound, video streaming, etc. for free by Microsoft. Unfortunately still very early in development. Downloads not yet work. History not yet work. Popup window not yet work (very difficult). But I hope that in a few months from now good old Win9x and Win2000 can join a modern Internet again. Backend in C#. Frontend in Visual Basic 6 with OLEEXP and patched SSUBTMR (just to prove it can be done, but it is painful). Maybe you will say that's the fake screenshot. Okay, you can do it. I don't have the argument at the moment. But soon I hope to show it running on real hardware.

Hey there! So, I want to install Windows 7 Pro or Ultimate on my Surface Go. I just don't know how to install it. The specs are: CPU: Intel Core i5 1035G1 GPU: Intel UHD Graphics RAM: 4 GB (3.60 GB usable) SSD: Hynix hC8aP> with 64 GB of storage So, yeah, if anyone knows, I would love to install Win 7. Goodbye!

I still use one of those "natural keyboards" But I also feel like I had to teach myself "two ways" to type - one way for at home, another way for at work. And I had to teach myself to use the left hand for #6 versus the right hand - which probably only means I was always using the wrong finger for #6 to begin with. I haven't shopped around for one of the "natural keyboards" in years though, don't think they make them with the short-stroke-depress keys like most keyboards nowadays. The short-stroke-depress keys is probably much more of a fatique-preventative ergonomic advancement than the angled "natural keyboard" was/is.

Sorry been busy. @Dave-H. Yes i remember the natural keyboards, query very early 2000s. Some of my coworkers liked them, supposed to keep better wrist alignment. I worked in healthcare back then when RSDs (repetitive strain disorders) were trending. Personally i type well when needed but cross over fingers too much when gaming, never got used to the split layout. Good quality keyboard. @UCyborg. Thanks for your computer history and experiences. Since i use Windows 9x, 2000 and XP it can be confirmed that i resemble that (grumpy old dinosaur). Why not, there's lots to be grumpy about. Anyone who used good old hardware and software back in the day can see where things have led. Not to pick on you personally, Windows 10, for example, is not much more than an advertising and closed source spyware platform that happens to run hardware, requiring a multitude of additional CPU cycles to perform essentially the same tasks. @XPerceniol. Thanks for posting, i wish you well on your journey, thanks for supporting @Drugwash, we all need support these days. I read some of your posts and see how you struggle, you are not alone. @marco_a. Thank-you for taking the time to post a picture of your keyboard. Very nice, i've never seen one labelled specifically for Windows 98. @jumper. Dig up a 5 year old post and request a thread title change. My Windows 98 SE test systems are part of the Windows 98 family and i can't know what Windows 98 releases other contributors are running, the thread title is accurate. Safe to say 99% of the software versions and OS tweaks discussed also apply to Windows 98 FE. To make the thread title Windows 98 SE specific is equally misleading, sure enough the next poster will indicate 'hey software versions abc and xyz work on my Windows 98 FE too'. Impossible to keep everyone happy, as recent forum drama can attest. @Kiriko Takemura. Your posts have been moved by admin to it's own project page. Seems to have been well liked, all the best with your project. My rendition of the "Browservice" project https://msfn.org/board/topic/184179-my-rendition-of-the-browservice-project/ @Tommy. Thanks for creating a project thread for @Kiriko Takemura. The post indicates it may work with Windows 2000 too, if that matters for project page placement. To me a project that requires external hardware, OS, web browser and software to spoonfeed Windows 9x is not vanilla. @Tommy. Kindly restore my SpellForce post (about 2-3 weeks ago), query inadvertently deleted when you created the project page for @Kiriko Takemura. If not accidental deletion, please clarify rational for removal.

True, it doesn't have that option, you get 60FPS if available. Yup, also would be interesting seeing someone duplicate YT's stats for nerds. I wonder about the percentage of YT users whose hardware actually runs AV1 at decent resolution well in the browser.

https://thecollectionbook.info/gallery/?f=/spotlight-99

You don't know what a person might be going through. You don't know what he can bring you or how he can inspire you. I always prefer to be kind and polite. When I want to hear something unpleasant I turn on the news. After all these years since w10 release, I have been testing and tweaking it trying to get it as fast as w8.1 on the same hardware and noticed what really makes it better in memory usage and laggy in general use (ui lag). I searched for tweaks year by year... and I can say the os CAN be faster than w8.1. I even know at which beta build the os makes a difference in terms of slowness compared to early builds and 8.1 but I don't want to go offtopic here. Just remember how fast 98 and 2000 (even XP) were on normal hardware and you will understand how losing cpu cycles has been normalized these days. Don't believe me? You still think w10 it's "always" faster? Ok, just take a look at Windows 7 market share percentage and ask yourself why people is still interested in an "old" OS. MS optimizes the kernel/OS as much as they can so that Telemetry and Metro running in the background does not penalize the general system peformance (that's why they recommend you a list of the minimum required cpus to run it) but once you get rid of these and other things you have an OS faster than w8.1... cause you won't release an os slower than its predecessor, right? Do you still don't believe it? I'll maybe release a software someday to really optimize windows considering all these tweaks here and there... it's really a different OS once you heavy tweak it. Well, sorry for going offtopic and thanks to everyone who liked my customized w10 with w8 theme. Edit: Anyway I'll always love Windows 8.0, but I can't completely ignore Windows 10 when Intel isn't releasing iGPU drivers to run w7,w8 on new hardware...

The right video link, as the video in itself is "wrong", the first thing they say is that they are not going to actually install windows 7, but rather that they are going to install the Windows 7 inside a VM (Virtual Machine) running on Windows 8 or 8.1. Anyway the OP has seen people installing 7 on modern hardware, so possibly he could ask those people how they installed it, though I have to remind that modern hardware is not a synonym of a Microsoft Surface, and particularly not of a Surface Go. I don't think it is possible at all, due to the peculiarities of Surface's (generally) hardware (namely the UEFI only and - if I recall correctly - GOP only video[1]), but additionally the Surface GO is a relatively recent model and I doubt that - even if *somehow* you can get past the two mentioned roadblocks - appropriate drivers can be found for it. jaclaz [1] there are actually workarounds for these - though complex and risky - that may apply to some "modern" hardware, but I doubt specifically to the Surface

No, Bruno. You can. I've seen people install Windows 7 on modern hardware.

thanks for all the input everyone its much appreciated!

The question is , does he own a gazillion bucks licence to able to use them !

Must be exclusive custom made !? Here's a casual cheap (popular) mobile i5 CPU from March 2016, almost 7 years old. No Win 7 drivers at all, not even old ones! https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/95443/intel-core-i57200u-processor-3m-cache-up-to-3-10-ghz/specifications.html

Well, my applications still work, my hardware still works, and it does everything I need it to do, so in my case, yes. The beauty of things like this, is that something is only really usable for what you need it for personally (I know someone in person who still daily drives w2k just fine!), so if you need newer hardware or applications for your daily needs, probably not. There are some risks associated with sticking with 7, but I accept those risks and worries, as Windows 10/11 and Linux don't really do all that I need them to, while 7 still works just fine. I can see myself using it for the foreseeable future, and probably beyond as well. ヽ(・∀・)ﾉ

This is somehow ridiculous statement - I have Dell laptop with Intel integrated graphics and last version of drivers for it was released in April 2021! Btw, I recall also drivers for network card and USB released around 2020 and 2018.

Such a nasty disposition. Perhaps someone else may care.

According to what is reported by TrimCheck, O&O Defrag v17.5.559 seems to perform the trim in XP also for the NVMe drives: before trim: running trim: after trim:

OK, something still wrong with emulating Processor(), if you can dump acpi logs from this board, i think i will find solution. But it may require more time because i don't know where is problem, so it is try&report way

Windows 7 is abandonware, dropped by Microsoft almost 3 years ago. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-7-support-ended-on-january-14-2020-b75d4580-2cc7-895a-2c9c-1466d9a53962 Hell, it's not even supported by the famous MKV cutting programme MKVToolNix, for almost a year now. And like the above orator said, the drivers are terribly out of date, Intel dropped Wiindows 7 eight (8 or 9!) years ago ! Nvidia and AMD dropped Win 7 approx. 2 years (or so) ago.

I felt I had to share this here.

Firefox 14. Sound support when using the VxD driver was discontinued in one of the nightly builds between versions 14 and 15. Among all the nightly builds of version 14 that I checked, I came across both supporting sound, and where there is no sound anymore. In version 15, it is no longer completely (Although I did not thoroughly check the nightly assemblies 15 - there are too many of them).

With all due respect, tt is interesting that you, a person that has zero use for this browser, would dare comment on some of the most helpful persons in this thread, presuming they do it to gain... what? I agree with a previous fellw here in that most of comments in the last three pages could go somewhere else, yours in particular.

The only updates that really matter are those that deal with security certificates.

i really don't understand why is everyone so obsessed with these "security updates" ? i use 7 sp1 with patches untill 2015, later when they started integrating telemetry i didn't install a single update and my OS runs perfect ... why all the paranoia ?

This is some devastating news, he was very active over at the Win9x section and others, he will be missed. Rest in Peace.

Anyway, been using DC Browser for a while, it's performing smoothly and good so far.

After a good night's sleep, I see what the issue is. That link is not direct, but goes through another site, should read like: https://img.picturequotes.com/2/52/51597/how-i-feel-when-my-computer-is-broken-quote-1.jpg

Right, this personal bickering has gone on long enough, again! If you want the 'reputation' system changed, I suggest that you PM @xper who is the owner of this forum. It will not be changed without his decision. This thread is now locked.

Oh, so "we"'re no longer speaking for the entire MSFN, are "we"? That was fast. Now "we"'re just doing more drama, "public shaming" and pretending that I didn't already say what I want or more importantly what my friend would like to see. It's totally your fiction that me and my friend are "angry" with these people or don't have enough empathy or want whatever your clean techno forum is supposed to mean. I've seen no one saying that people can't talk and support each other through life problems here but it makes no sense to gut the rep system in the process. Anything they can "say" with giving rep they can say with words during their chatting. The reason those boards are called general discussion is because they're peripheral to what this forum is about. There's so much social media everywhere and it's a waste to turn this board into that too. If rep from this periphery overwhelms rep for merit from all technical boards, something is seriously wrong with the system. If these people deliberatly seek to overwhelm the rest of the board in this way then they're not as gentle as you say because then it's like a coup. If it's not deliberate but they honestly think they're entitled to many times more rep than people like @Humming Owl or @NotHereToPlayGames or @roytam1 and many others who do very importand work here for free then I think something is wrong with their value system. I just mentioned some names my friend gave me as examples and there are many others. If they don't think they're entitled to more rep than those people then they can at least stop giving it to each other for saying the sky is blue. You do understand that, don't you? It's very magnanimous that you're not willing to be a moderator when no one is willing to make you one. I know you didn't miss the point of "wannabe moderator". I can't wait to hear details about how I would stab the mods in the back after apologizing for making impossible demands. You can get extra points if you can do it without name calling and buzzwords like agenda or Communism or ChinoRussia. @AstroSkipper Well said!

Wait, for real? I never talked with him personally as far as I remember, but for the short year or two I've been on this site, I've seen him *everywhere*. I didn't even know anything was wrong. Definitely did a lot and I pray him and his family peace.

God rest his soul

I even had him help me with a few problems on here especially when I was a younger member on here he showed me how to do good on here and was a good friend

dancorsio will definitely be missed greatly on here but his legacy will live on as one of the greatest kindest moderator on here I hope hes r.i.p

Agreed. That has been a big nuisance of late. But I am also reminded of a year or so ago when we had "two" forum members that always liked each other's posts, no matter how "useful" or unuseful the posts actually were. It was rumored that the "two" forum members was actually only ONE PERSON "liking" their own posts just for the sake of that USELESS "reputation". To the point of even "yelling at" OTHER forum members for not "liking" their posts when this "person" liked any other forum member's posts. It's a "generation thing", I suspect. I have no interest in "social media" web sites but MOST of them all "thrive" on the "like" button and how many "followers" the user is able to "collect". So yes, unfortunate, but we have members here at this forum that carry that "Instagram", "Twitter", "Facebook", et cetera "look at me, I have 2000 followers" mentality herein and falsely think it "means something".

I am so sad. He was a great person. I knew him since my first days on MSFN, many, many years ago, and besides the public interactions on the board we had a lot of correspondence via PM's, both on computing and on a whole range of different topics, from cinema and TV to art and linguistics (he could read and understand very well Italian and I can understand a very little Portuguese, we had a common interest in Latin - as root of both languages - and we often exchanged opinions on these and many other things), I considered him a friend. I will greatly miss him and our exchanges. Besides his great work in helping and advising other people on technical matters, he was always polite and just (as a moderator), while often managing to keep a veil of humour in his posts. He told me about his illness, describing it as a "a quite mean cancer", from the tone of his latest messages he was fighting fiercely against it, and was hoping to defeat it only one month before, at the end of september. May he R.I.P. jaclaz

I found out here that there's a way to fix WU being stuck on checking on updates after installing SP2 for Office 2010 on Vista (and XP, well kinda, read at the end for more info). Note: This problem is unique to Windows XP and Vista, 7 and newer don't have this issue. First, install SP2 for Office 2010 if you don't have it installed yet (you should see it on WU already): For x86 (32-bit): SP2 for Office 2010 x86 For x64 (64-bit): SP2 for Office 2010 x64 If you now have SP2 installed or already had it installed beforehand: To fix the WU issue, you'll have to download and install these two updates for Office 2010 SP2 prior to checking for updates (Office 2010 SP2 must be installed already!): For x86 (32-bit): Security Update for Microsoft Word 2010 (KB4493218) 32-Bit Edition and Security Update for Microsoft Excel 2010 (KB3017810) 32-Bit Edition For x64 (64-bit): Security Update for Microsoft Word 2010 (KB4493218) 64-Bit Edition and Security Update for Microsoft Excel 2010 (KB3017810) 64-Bit Edition After installing the two updates, it's recommended to restart your computer. If you installed the two updates: Open Windows/Microsoft Update and check for updates, you should see updates for Office 2010 SP2 after waiting a while. Yay! You should now update Office 2010 to its final updates. But if you're on XP, read below (hint: it's not good news). This has been successfully tested on a Vista VM with Office 2010 SP2 installed. If you're doing this on XP, be aware that the newer updates for Office 2010 SP2 break the Office 2010 programs (Word, PowerPoint, etc.) on XP. Go here for more info Personally, on XP, I stick with Office 2007 because those newer Office 2010 updates break Office, as stated above.