NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 59 minutes ago, jaclaz said: The method Firemin uses to decrease Firefox memory usage is not proven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 Like I said, Snake Oil. There really is never any "debate until the end of time" over something that REALLY WORKS! ie, Placebo Effect. So yeah, use it if you want to, don't use it if you don't want to. "Brilliant" marketing! I think you know which side I fall on To each their own. Just don't get all hostile towards me just because I have a different opinion in that "debate until the end of time" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 The idea of posting the reference to that page was exactly to avoid any debate (which besides being endless would also be meaningless), if you need a better endless one, meet over vs. under: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_paper_orientation And it is over[1]. jaclaz [1] pun intended 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroSkipper Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: Like I said, Snake Oil. There really is never any "debate until the end of time" over something that REALLY WORKS! ie, Placebo Effect. So yeah, use it if you want to, don't use it if you don't want to. "Brilliant" marketing! I think you know which side I fall on To each their own. Just don't get all hostile towards me just because I have a different opinion in that "debate until the end of time" Browsers like Chrome, Firefox, and unfortunately, Mypal 68, too, all of them have a lot of problems in their memory management. Nowadays, the developers do not matter at all how much memory is used by their programs, unfortunately. New computers are equipped with a huge amount of RAM. For running those browsers on my old, slow, and beloved computer, I have to do a lot to reduce RAM consumption because a RAM extension was and is not possible due to its motherboard layout. I am a logically thinking person , and I don't believe anything at all due to my mathematical, technical, scientific, and philological background. Trial and error is the main principle! What you called pejoratively "snake oil", helps me a lot in very special situations, but not in general. I am not a friend of such common and rather meaningless statements. Truth be told, most of all memory manager I tested in the past are crap and don't do anything reasonable at all. But, there are exceptions. On my computer, low on RAM, I can perfectly observe how programs behave and what they do if the system runs out of free RAM. Mypal 68 in combination with Firemin Portable 6.3.1.5105 works much better than without it. The browser behaves more fluently while loading websites. Its memory consumption and releasing of occupied RAM can be improved in this way, "but cannot work miracles" which you forgot to quote from me (That, I don't like, either. Full quotation or nothing, but no selecting in one sentence!). Here is the full quotation of my statement: Quote It permanently reduces the browser's memory consumption in the background, but cannot work miracles. And, just to complete it, I do have another "snake oil" for you which is able to work system-wide in Windows. It's the program CleanMem Pro. Many years ago, I bought a license for it. A free version is available, too. Here is the link: https://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem. I only use this on my old Windows XP computer. But you have to configure it very carefully! Anyway, all these measures and many others I don't want to list here lead to an improvement in regard to the RAM consumption in my system. No more and no less! Greetings from Germany, AstroSkipper PS: I don't know what hostility you are talking about. I can't see any such one. You are a good guy! Anyway, there is a nice saying in the German language: "Wer im Glashaus sitzt, sollte nicht mit Steinen werfen!". Translated: "Who sits in a glass house should not throw stones!". BTW, it's just a metaphor, of course! Edited August 23, 2022 by AstroSkipper Update of content 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampei.Nihira Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) Hi to all, Those with memory problems in addition to the various tricks that can be used in the browsers settings try using a DNS even with ad blocking (remember that cosmetic filtering is not provided). Excellent is ControlD with full OISD: https://kb.controld.com/3rd-party-filters https://oisd.nl/includedlists/full/0 list (which has a huge number of lists) and does not slow down browsing. Eliminate all included lists from your aAdBlocker. Edited August 23, 2022 by Sampei.Nihira 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 9 hours ago, jaclaz said: if you need a better endless one, meet over vs. under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 8 hours ago, AstroSkipper said: I can't see any such one. If English were your first language, you would see it. Doesn't matter. The horse is already dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msfntor Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) Hmm, for your RAM problems, try (is portable, free) DTaskManager - and if you click on process, you have two possibilities: Trim RAM Usage, and Trim RAM to all processes. But my PC works good already, so ... "this never improved process performance apparently, here. I didn't see any improvement." Edited August 24, 2022 by msfntor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADMM Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Can multiple processes be disabled in 360 chrome v13? If it can,how?I'm new to chrome browsers having never used one in the past other than briefly trying one many years ago that was horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPerceniol Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 14 hours ago, ADMM said: Can multiple processes be disabled in 360 chrome v13? If it can,how?I'm new to chrome browsers having never used one in the past other than briefly trying one many years ago that was horrible. I don't believe so, and V13 is very greedy and you have to tame it and pretty much kill off anything not needed on the background to use it. I have put in my 500MB and now 2.5 GB is ram is a (little) better, but my ram sticks are VERY old an unreliable. I also use Wise Tray by itself to free ram. On 8/24/2022 at 3:42 PM, msfntor said: Hmm, for your RAM problems, try (is portable, free) DTaskManager - and if you click on process, you have two possibilities: Trim RAM Usage, and Trim RAM to all processes. But my PC works good already, so ... "this never improved process performance apparently, here. I didn't see any improvement." is this what you are mentioning? https://www.softpedia.com/publisher/Dimio-36857.html I will try it today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mina7601 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 34 minutes ago, XPerceniol said: is this what you are mentioning? https://www.softpedia.com/publisher/Dimio-36857.html I will try it today In my opinion, there wasn't a need to download it from Softpedia, here's the download link from it's homepage: http://dimio.altervista.org/eng/#DTaskManager I'm not saying downloading it from Softpedia (or other websites than the software's homepage) is bad, I mean, I prefer downloading it from the original page if it's still available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 FWIW, I've been using DTaskManager for many years, and it is very good, but I found the latest current version 1.57 to be very unstable on my XP system. Give it a try, but if you have problems, I have a copy of the previous version 1.53 which works fine for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dave-H said: I have a copy of the previous version 1.53 which works fine for me. Do you have the .paf version by chance? If not, I'll take the non-paf to test. Tried 18 different versions of Firemin and they all CRASHED 360Chrome v13.5 on a 1GB RAM system. edit - just tried 1.51 .paf and 1.57 .paf, you have to MANUALLY trim RAM and it didn't really seem to do anything. Guess I'll keep experimenting... Edited August 26, 2022 by NotHereToPlayGames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Not a paf version I'm afraid, but let me know if you'd still like 1.53. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADMM Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 12 hours ago, XPerceniol said: I don't believe so, and V13 is very greedy and you have to tame it and pretty much kill off anything not needed on the background to use it. I have put in my 500MB and now 2.5 GB is ram is a (little) better, but my ram sticks are VERY old an unreliable. I also use Wise Tray by itself to free ram. is this what you are mentioning? https://www.softpedia.com/publisher/Dimio-36857.html I will try it today That sucks.Multiple processes can be disabled in Mypal 68 but not 360 chrome.Maybe someone else will chime in on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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