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SM-2.53.x is based on gecko56, and SM-2.57.x is based on gecko60.

Most of my precious time has been devoted to the Chromium issue, which is continuously unfolding as they gradually remove legacy codepaths. The job object server is nearly functional (right now it isn't, but Chromium seems to be OK with it, in --no-sandbox at least). Then I need to add some things to NtQueryInformationProcess and that should get Chromium 111 100% functional. Some more functions will need to be added for Chromium 112.

C'mon, guys, get a grip! If you bothered to read my entire post, you should've known I was speaking tongue-in-cheek: @NotHereToPlayGames, you in particular should be ashamed! The whole point of the post was that MCP's so-called "ancient" browser was enhanced so that NextCloud did work - and then a few weeks later, it stopped working again! No, I don't think NextCloud deliberately broke Pale Moon. But the coincidence was so striking, I think one could be excused for being a little suspicious in this case. Not "each and every time a web site is discovered not to work on our 'ancient' browsers" as you wrote. Next time, try to read what I actually wrote, and give me the benefit of the doubt. OK?

No.

The first website has a big problem to be displayed here... I didn't manage to display it completely, but from what I could understand from some of the sentences displayed, they seem to be pro-abortion, poor guys... I am against killing babies, period, so this site is right not to be displayed as it should be, probably out of shame they hide... maybe the communist site is trying to scare the readers... so I couldn't see your article at all! The second site displays correctly, but here they say it's "cruel" - "to deny women full control over their bodies" as MAGA's would like... so cruel not to kill the babies??? The world is turning upside down... Maybe it's time for people to turn away from this fear propaganda... to wake up... I'm really well inoculated against the propaganda, really... "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

A Black Man Tells the Truth About Racism in America Vasko Kohlmayer May 4, 2022 Here: https://vasko.substack.com/p/a-black-man-tells-the-truth-about

Agreed. I suspect it has to do more with "ad revenue". (ps, the narcissism reply was NOT directed at you specifically or I would have quoted you directly... just saying MSFN likes to "always" think developers are "out to get them"... moving on...) I'm not quite sure how the "ad revenue" works. But the web sites that you have written (it's been several years since I have), I suspect they don't use third-party "resources"? I've often wondered why my BANKING web site (if I allowed it to!) pings FACEBOOK. Then there's the obvious googleanalytics ping (again, if I allowed it to). Then there's the countless dozen of "cdn" web sites that are also attempted connections (that my banking web sites work even without). Another common one of late is "techlab-cdn".

Sorry for the late response, but thank you, but it isn't over yet, there's still a second term for 2nd secondary, and there's also 3rd secondary!

AGREED! It's actually quite narcissistic of the MSFN Community to "always conclude" that each and every time a web site is discovered to not work on our ANCIENT browsers that "developers" are out to get us. I assure you that they have much more important things to do than maintain compatibility for ANCIENT browsers.

thanks for the new builds! @roytam1 you always bring good quality browsers to the forum and i appreciated what you do here

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360 Extreme Explorer Screenshot of the browser: (360 Extreme Explorer, Ver: 13.0.2250.0, "Chrome" Theme) Modified Version download links: v9 --> (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 9.5.0.138 Based on Chromium: 63.0.3239.132 v11 --> (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 11.0.2251.0 Based on Chromium: 69.0.3497.100 v12 --> (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 12.0.1592.0 Based on Chromium: 78.0.3904.108 v13 --> (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 13.0.2250.0 Based on Chromium: 86.0.4240.198 (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 13.0.2310.0 Based on Chromium: 86.0.4240.198 Archive with all versions --> https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version See: https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2019/05/360-extreme-chrome-browser.html https://web.archive.org/web/20210925152949/https://xpforever.miraheze.org/wiki/360_Extreme_Explorer Note: The changes I made are so many that maybe some little errors related to translation and/or the building of the modification notes can be present so please tell me if you find any. Also, if you want to propose something else, please be aware that I do not have a lot of free time and that at any moment, I could be gone for a while for whatever reasons (I do not intend to be rude with this comment, feel free to speak yourself). If anyone wants to help, it will be truly appreciated. Kafan Mini-Browser Another Chinese Chromium-based browser that seems to be pretty much like a standard Chromium build. Official Page --> https://browser.kfsafe.cn/ Forum --> https://bbs.kafan.cn/forum-298-1.html Screenshot of the browser: Modified Version download link: v1 Version: 1.0.0.121 --> (22/03/23) Version: 1.0.0.127 --> (22/03/23) Based on Chromium: 87.0.4280.66 Folder --> https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version Observations: - On startup the browser will connect to the website of the search provider selected as default because of the search bar provided on the new tab. - Browser crashing when inserting a USB drive? --> Disable the "Enable new USB backend" flag in "chrome://flags/" (Thanks to @realisty). - Only natively compatible with XP-32bits. It can be used on XP-64bits thanks to @Matias Groen (see XP x64 folder). - Very heavy for old computers. - Doesn't have NPAPI support. Original download link (you can unzip the EXE file with 7zip): http://browser-download.kfsafe.cn/MiniBrowserSetup.exe (currently down) Internet Archive alternative link --> http://web.archive.org/web/20221201234530/http://browser-download.kfsafe.cn/MiniBrowserSetup.exe DC Browser A Chinese Chromium-based browser. The only version compatible with XP is v4 (Chromium 75). Official page --> http://dcbrowser.cqttech.com/home Screenshot of the browser: Modified Version download link: v4 --> (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 4.0.7.22 Based on Chromium: 75.0.3770.100 Folder --> https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version Observations: - On startup the browser will connect to the website of the search provider selected as default. Similar to Mini-Browser. - All default extensions were removed (the PDF Feature and Screen Capture will not work). You can get them out of the browser's interface through the settings. - Doesn't have NPAPI support. - Has DRM support (Win7+) --> https://bitmovin.com/demos/drm Original download link (you need to install to get the browser files, fortunately you can set the location of the installation): http://file.cdn.cqttech.com/dcbrowser/DCBrowser_1261_4.0.7.22.exe Patcher to retrieve the translation function for all browsers modified --> https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version Usage: - Inside the "trans_patch.7z" there is a "trans_patch" folder. Extract it. - Copy and paste the folder in the same place the browser executable file is. - After that, enter the folder and execute "trans-patch.bat". - A command-line interface will show up. Depending on the browser you are trying to apply the patches a small question will be promted on CMD. If everything goes correctly the program will show you at the end "Press any key to continue". Press any key, open the browser and check if the translation function was restored. After all that you can delete the "trans_patch" folder. It should work without errors. If anything else happens tell me. Thanks to all the following for the information I could gather for the modification of these browsers: @Windows 2000, @VistaLover, @Sampei.Nihira, @win32, @DragonSC7601, @redapple0204, @blackwingcat, @404notfound, @Cixert, @thebuildone, @ArcticFoxie, @Dixel, The Russian Repackers, @dmiranda, @we3fan, @athlonxpuser and @Greyfox77 I really hope this can help someone, Cheers. - Humming Owl

Some thing I have been work on in my very little free time. You know "Browservice" project right? He made a software that pushes endless stream of JPEG images to the browser that contain a website rendered by Chromium engine. Complete with fake address bar and front end JavaScript to capture keyboard and mouse. The idea sounds so ridiculous, so crazy, but it actually works on almost every OS and almost every old browser. Problem of "Browservice" is it doesn't feel convincing. IE constantly downloading images and status bar goes crazy (it appears that the memory leak exists). Also very slow when website has a animating. I did something similar but using RDP. Only for IE5 and IE6. Should work Win98/ME/2000/XP<SP3. I develop in XPSP2 IE6 and WinME IE 5.5 for now. Since it's ActiveX control, I am inside of IEXPLORE.EXE and have full control (that's how drive-by downloads installed spyware and virus back in the days). I use the power to intercept the menu, toolbar, address bar, status bar, etc. IE becomes only a bit of GUI under my control. All commands are redirected to remote server running Chromium engine there. RDP has the feature "Virtual Channel" to send messages (WTSVirtualChannelOpen etc.) My implementation so far browsing experience feels 99% like using real Internet Explorer because RDP protocol is much faster and get clipboard support, access to local hard drive, sound, video streaming, etc. for free by Microsoft. Unfortunately still very early in development. Downloads not yet work. History not yet work. Popup window not yet work (very difficult). But I hope that in a few months from now good old Win9x and Win2000 can join a modern Internet again. Backend in C#. Frontend in Visual Basic 6 with OLEEXP and patched SSUBTMR (just to prove it can be done, but it is painful). Maybe you will say that's the fake screenshot. Okay, you can do it. I don't have the argument at the moment. But soon I hope to show it running on real hardware.

The Windows 7 install on my T430 corrupted itself and deleted many files out of System32 for seemingly no reason, luckily I had a copy of XP on the laptop and used it for a bit as I was away from home and had no ISOs or sticks with me. I am working on a MC server so I decided I wanted to play MC. I remember 1.12.2 with a resource pack ran somewhat ok under 7 so I figured 1.16,5 with Sodium and whatever would work fine, but it would just freeze the entire laptop requiring me to either reboot or get the end task prompt ready and press enter while it was frozen. I found that if I deleted my settings it would open, but when I joined the server, I got 3-4 FPS on the lowest settings with no shaders and no resource packs. I'm wondering if anyone else has had a experience like this and if they know a fix or a workaround. I'm using the newest drivers I could find for the HD 4000.

Eruption of the Fuego volcano (Guatemala, January 17, 2023). ...and thank you Manuel!

26.01.2023⚡️Thunderstorm in the province of San Luis Argentina (0:30) Thanks to Manuel for this one too, from: https://strangesounds.substack.com/p/wait-wait-whats-this-yes-its-just

Global warming - the continuation (RARE snowfall in Oman)

Payday Loan Center Sets Up Shop In Egg Aisle U.S.·Jan 30, 2023 · BabylonBee.com BRANSON, MO — The cost of groceries has continued to rise, despite the Biden Administration's concerted effort to reduce inflation by printing money. In fact, prices have now increased to the point that a Payday Loan Center was seen setting up shop in the egg aisle of a local grocery store. The store graciously made room for the new enterprise by throwing out all of the Beyond Meat™. "Shout out to Joe Biden for providing much-needed employment for loan sharks like me," said Payday Loan Center franchisee, Dirk Greedsniffle, while lighting a Cuban cigar and flicking grocery dust off his bright blue pinstripe suit. "By wringing every penny out of vulnerable families, I'll be able to afford eggs myself!" A young mother then approached the shiny, oak desk of Greedsniffle and took out a short-term loan with a reasonable 75% interest rate, compounded daily, then carefully placed a single egg in her shopping cart and, ever-so-gently proceeded to checkout. At publishing time Republican lawmakers had proposed a bill aimed at helping working-class families who suffer from rampant inflation by providing Payday Loan Centers in every home. Here: https://babylonbee.com/news/payday-loan-center-sets-up-shop-in-egg-aisle

Watch as a fired Twitter employee applies for her first *actual* job:

the way it is here alot of the stuff there doing everywhere else in america is being reversed recently

I recommend integrating all updates to your installation

StartAllBack 3.6 Preview

Steam (newer version) Works but you need to have it preinstalled from diffrent pc or just os and you need to be disconected from internet

NONE of the extensions tried so far actually work to make YouTube play inside VirtualBox without the HORRIBLE choppiness. I do find it hillarious that the test video is the exact video used in the screencap of this extension -- https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/play-with-mpv/hahklcmnfgffdlchjigehabfbiigleji?hl=en

WinRedecuerEX100 -- https://www.winreducer.net/ex-series.html Your only TRULY EFFECTIVE method is to remove all of the unneeded apps and telemetry BEFORE even installing to your hard drive!

Believe it or not, I sort of agree. Certainly with the "slow" part. It's especially ironic given that Pale Moon started out as simply Firefox optimized for performance on Windows. I may not like that Mozilla mostly started over with Quantum, but I have to admit that MCP is pushing FF 52's Javascript engine to the limit to get it to handle all the latest "Googlisms." It's surprising that it works as well as it does. From the Web developer's standpoint though, I've written a fair number of very simple Web pages, and I absolutely cannot understand why any Web developer would rely as heavily on JavaScript as most do for tasks the Web server itself would be much more suited to do. It's almost (have to emphasize those disclaimers now, apparently) as if they were trying to make their Web pages as slow and inefficient as possible!

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/15/how-i-became-homeless-three-peoples-stories How I became homeless: three people's stories The number of families affected by homelessness is expected to double by 2041. We asked people to share their experiences ‘Thankfully I never slept rough or on the streets but I was close to sleeping in a park.’ Photograph: Alamy Sarah Marsh and Guardian readers Tue 15 Aug 2017 07.00 EDTLast modified on Wed 20 Sep 2017 14.00 EDT The number of families affected by homelessness is expected to more than double in the next two decades, with a further 200,000 households affected by 2041, according to a report. Those sleeping rough will soar by fourfold to more than 40,000 in the same period, according to research by Heriot-Watt University, commissioned by Crisis, the homelessness charity. Number of homeless in Britain expected to double by 2041, Crisis warns Read more ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I didn't post all details because it is too long and would lose people, but I'll just us my own words, its been said people are 1 kitchen appliance away from homelessness and out on the streets in 1 month this can happen and I'm included as I've been close but my Dearly Departed Father made sure this *shouldn't* happen according to him desire but if the MAGA's take away my rights I'll have nowhere to turn. My be good to read a few people testimonials (real) and determine that we can just kill off the scum or let them rot.

It's probably out of their radar sight rather than breaking Pale Moon deliberately. I suspect most devs in general, if they were to look into the browser, would dismiss it as being slow and archaic. I just figured out I can actually check the version through my user on the instance running at workplace, apparently it's updated to the latest 25.0.3. Source code is here: https://github.com/nextcloud/server I found there are 4 files, each containing 2 incompatible class definitions (can't find them on the above link though), running the snippets through Babel and adding Palefill rules to do some search and replace fixes the errors and can now refresh the page without crashing, but I couldn't figure out the CSS magic required to make scrolling work when there are too many files to show at once.

And, knowing his posts, he wants to stay on Vista with ExKernel than getting a PC with newer Windows to run newer apps. @WinCare We know you want more Windows 10 and later apps to run on Vista, but you must understand a few things. Making an Extended Kernel for an OS isn't as easy as you think. it actually involves requiring much knowledge and experience with IDA Pro, see here as an example. (although it's about NT 4, but it still stands generally). You should be grateful and thank God that someone knowledgeable like @win32 decided to take his time to work on an ExKernel for Vista (even if Vista was badly hated!), and that you are able to run apps with ExKernel that you otherwise, couldn't run on vanilla Vista. All of this wouldn't have been possible without @win32's effort. And maybe, if you mentioned a few examples of the Windows 10 apps that you want to install on Vista, you could maybe get information regarding them, like if it's possible to run them on Vista or not, and reasons why they can't run, etc. That's the purpose of this topic, hence the [WIP] at the topic title (which stands for Work In Progress). But, keep in mind that not all apps run perfectly on Vista with ExKernel. Some apps can run, but with visual bugs or graphical glitches (and require workarounds to run almost perfectly), some apps crash upon running, or doing specific actions inside the apps, Hope this helps. I hope I cleared out everything you need to know. Best regards.

Yeah, it was @burd's attempt:

You could always buy a Windows 11 PC.

Did you spoof Windows 7 or Windows 10?

@win32, please kindly help me to use Windows Vista in 2023 or beyond such that all apps compatible with Windows 10 or above must run on Windows Vista. D Draker, I do request Win32 to install Windows 10 apps on Windows Vista otherwise if Win32 cannot do, that will make me cry 😭!

... You're probably mixing it up with WaterFox Classic , which is indeed based on Fx56 ... SM 2.53.x branch is forked from a Firefox ESR 60.x code snapshot, specifically SM versions > 2.53.4 are based on FxESR 60.8 ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey Feodor (a one-person "act") has managed to port FxESR 68 to WinXP/WinVista via his MyPal 68 project, though that involved using a custom, XP-compatible, version of the Rust coding language ... If the SM project are to take a similar route, then backporting SM 2.53.x (FxESR 60.x-based) to WinXP/Vista doesn't "sound" unfeasible... But I seriously doubt they'll be interested ...

Version 8.0.0.0 (as written in the properties of the exe) from 2012. It is listed as an option under "rebuilder".

@win32, btw , you wrote you don't have that file when you install the driver , right ? So I installed 456.71 on a spare Win 7 PC with GTX780Ti, just to look what files are created, so here I made an export : 456.71 filename full.txt nvDevTools.dll nvDevToolsR.dll nvdisps.dll nvdispsr.dll nvgames.dll nvgamesr.dll nvlicensings.dll nvLicensingSR.dll nvmccss.dll nvmccssr.dll nvmobls.dll nvmoblsr.dll nvsmartmax.dll nvsmartmax64.dll nvsmartmaxapp.exe nvsmartmaxapp64.exe nvsvs.dll nvsvsr.dll nvui.dll nvuir.dll nvvitvs.dll nvvitvsr.dll nvwss.dll nvwssr.dll nvxdapix.dll nvxdbat.dll nvxdplcy.dll In reality , one can delete everything except these : nvdisps.dll nvdispsr.dll nvgames.dll nvgamesr.dll nvsmartmax.dll nvsmartmax64.dll nvsmartmaxapp.exe nvsmartmaxapp64.exe nvui.dll nvuir.dll nvvitvs.dll nvvitvsr.dll nvxdapix.dll nvxdbat.dll nvxdplcy.dll

Mine doesn't . That's why I included the manual patching process with WinHex in the tutorial. Which version do you run ? I guess I was wrong when I thought it would eliminate questions like from the above.

You defo need to read before you post, all of that was tested by me a long time ago (including the 391.35). The NVCPL in the 39x.xx does NOT work.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20230128-485bba73-uxp-fd45d6324-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20230128-485bba73-uxp-fd45d6324-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20230128-id-656ea98-uxp-fd45d6324-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20230128-id-656ea98-ia-93af9a0-uxp-fd45d6324-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild for UXP changes please see above.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230128-3219d2d-uxp-fd45d6324-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20230128-3219d2d-uxp-fd45d6324-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230128-3219d2d-uxp-fd45d6324-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230128-d849524bd-uxp-fd45d6324-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230128-d849524bd-uxp-fd45d6324-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230128-d849524bd-uxp-fd45d6324-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win64-git-20230128-d849524bd-uxp-fd45d6324-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - No issue - implement js::NativeDefineDataProperty helper (2db0386e6) - No issue - reformat GlobalObject::skipDeselectedConstructor (7d2b83faf) - No issue - Remove "code" from jsprototype.h macros (41c2b3454) - No issue - Cleanup unused function exports to self-hosted global (123080858) - No issue - add API to tell Profile Timeline Recording state to JS engine (531906eb8) - No issue - Throw error when resolving or rejecting promise returned by async function with testing function (021610819) - Issue #2089 - Use JS engine stack if necessary when reporting errors (6b50dd5d0) - Issue #2089 - In Promises, use a C++ version of SpeciesConstructor when calling from C++ (8322304fb) - Issue #2089 - Avoid copying/recreating iterator result, AsyncGeneratorRequest and GeneratorObject expression stacks (ece049698) - Issue #2091 - Parse \p{Extended_Pictographic} too. (849523139) - Issue #2093 - Trace HeapPtr<RegExpShared::groupsTemplate_> for GC move/compact events, regression from #2072 (70279e1eb) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt58l.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Did you actually try it yourself ? Does NVCPL work ? Is@win32aware of this driver ?

Port us that driver to Vista then. Will ya ? Maybe ask Compa to help ?

No, it's not . I already told you, I ran it on my GF's PC with DX11 on Win 7, and there's no such thing as DX12 with win 7. It even shows FPS in D3D11 mode, even though I have a fully featured DX12 card. BTW, this topic is about Vista, in case you hadn't noticed.

Vulcan is more like an alternative method, it works off of DX11, officially. Got that game on my GF's PC , where Volcano wasn't even installed, it ran fantastically. Did I miss something ? When did you port that driver to Vista ?

For older browsers try this user script. Add it (text) to the greasemonkey extension. There are two inconveniences. Sometimes you need to refresh the page. And for all the links to be displayed, go to the release page.

@feodor2's Mypal 29 was abandoned years ago. There will be no further development of this browser anymore. I removed this version completely from my system long time ago. Anyone who is still wondering why certain websites no longer work in this version can honestly no longer be helped. Sorry to say that! But, that's the truth, unfortunately! We all know, there are other browsers like for example New Moon 28 which can be used in combination with palefill to get access to GitHub. And, these browsers are updated and fixed on a regular basis.