ArcticFoxie/NotHereToPlayGames -- 360Chrome v13.5.2022 rebuild 3

[AstroSkipper]

44 minutes ago, msfntor said:

Which "actions and accesses"? I've none.

Of course, you have none. Because you don't seem to use WiseVector StopX. For example, Avast which I used before didn't detect anything when starting one of these 360Chrome browsers. In contrast, WiseVector StopX detects and analyzes much more and deeper. It is a modern piece of software and is based on artificial intelligence.  Without any evaluation, these 360Chrome browsers seem to perform unusual disk accesses or other actions that WiseVector StopX tries to intercept and ends in a BSOD.  

Edited December 11, 2022 by AstroSkipper
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[D.Draker]

3 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

360Chrome browsers seem to perform unusual disk accesses or other actions that WiseVector StopX tries to intercept and ends in a BSID.

Thank you for the explanations! I also confirm this, now I tried several different HDD enclosures !

 

3 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

WiseVector StopX detects and analyzes much more and deeper. It is a modern piece of software and is based on artificial intelligence.

That would perfectly explain why others didn't notice. I have no AV at all. But my firewall screams with "incoming traffic detected".

[msfntor]

@AstroSkipper, I repeat to you, I have no bad connections with 360Chrome, too latest version, my software doesn't show me anything bad, no bad traffic, OK? And I have confidence in my personal intelligence, which is more than enough for me. 
You don't answer my question: "which "actions and accesses" you have, why?...Why you don't answer?

This "discussion" is already boring me, so I'll let myself go...

[AstroSkipper]

1 hour ago, msfntor said:

@AstroSkipper, I repeat to you, I have no bad connections with 360Chrome, too latest version, my software doesn't show me anything bad, no bad traffic, OK? And I have confidence in my personal intelligence, which is more than enough for me. 
You don't answer my question: "which "actions and accesses" you have, why?...Why you don't answer?

This "discussion" is already boring me, so I'll let myself go...

You do not have to repeat anything to me. Try WiseVector StopX yourself or leave it! If you want to know which actions and accesses are performed by the 360Chrome browsers, you have to check and analyze it yourself.  

Edited December 11, 2022 by AstroSkipper
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[D.Draker]

6 hours ago, msfntor said:

I have confidence in my personal intelligence, which is more than enough for me. 
You don't answer my question: "which "actions and accesses" you have, why?...Why you don't answer?

What's there so hard to understand ? You're trying to catch it with your eyes or simple software that is not meant for such tasks,

while our dear @AstroSkipper , whom I never doubt, is using  a modern piece of software and it is based on artificial intelligence.

360Chrome browser performs spinning (scanning) of any connected HDD/USB/SSD disks and/or accesses

(scans) them ! Why ? We assume to track your info!, and these actions WiseVector StopX (clever software) tries to intercept and ends in multiple BSOD.

Will you still use this browser after you know this, is up to you ! 

[D.Draker]

If I was @Dave-H or @Tripredacus, I'd at least put a warning in the title . But I'm neither .

How to put it politely and not to offend some sensitive folks ? Well, smth like : 

Beware, this browser has suspicious behaviour, confirmed by multiple users and the most advanced AV with AI.

And who the hell knows what else is going on inside that enormous amounts of RAM this browser uses ?
@AstroSkipper , remember the old topic where we made several screenshots and compared to an ordinary Chrome version ?

It was like 10x times more , very weird.

[Dave-H]

As far as I'm concerned, as a user, not a moderator, all that matters to me is that this browser works on almost all sites, and runs fine on XP.
If it's still sending telemetry to foreign servers, despite all of the efforts of @NotHereToPlayGames, then so what?
I bet it's still no worse than using the 'latest and greatest' browsers on Windows 10 and 11, which millions are doing, sending masses of usage data to servers in the States and elsewhere. If 360Chrome is sending it to China and/or Russia, they can fill their boots as far as I'm concerned.
I hope they choke on it!
Unless and until anyone proves to me that 360Chrome can legitimately be considered to be any form of serious malware, I will continue to use it without a thought. There's a very fine line between legitimate security concerns and paranoia.

[mina7601]

37 minutes ago, Dave-H said:

As far as I'm concerned, as a user, not a moderator, all that matters to me is that this browser works on almost all sites, and runs fine on XP.
If it's still sending telemetry to foreign servers, despite all of the efforts of @NotHereToPlayGames, then so what?
I bet it's still no worse than using the 'latest and greatest' browsers on Windows 10 and 11, which millions are doing, sending masses of usage data to servers in the States and elsewhere. If 360Chrome is sending it to China and/or Russia, they can fill their boots as far as I'm concerned.
I hope they choke on it!
Unless and until anyone proves to me that 360Chrome can legitimately be considered to be any form of serious malware, I will continue to use it without a thought. There's a very fine line between legitimate security concerns and paranoia.

This is a well thought opinion in my opinion! Completely agreed with all of your points!

[verta]

On 12/9/2022 at 2:20 PM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Not possible.

A new loader could be compiled that parses the Local State file and clears session-restore tabs in the event of a crash flag.

But I save that project for somebody else to pick up.

Is the loader open source?

[we3fan]

ArcticFoxie has sacrificed a lot of his free time to make all these builds, he doesn't have to share it with us but he chooses to do so.
We should all be grateful for his work.
I personally trust his judgement.
We are not forced to use his builds, if someone doesn't like his builds, he is welcome not to use them.
If someone thinks there is something bad about his builds, he should use constructive criticism, but please no bad remarks, ArcticFoxie doesn't deserve this.
We should all consider ourselves lucky to have someone like ArcticFoxie.
I am sure most of us would agree.

[XP4ever]

14 hours ago, Dave-H said:

Unless and until anyone proves to me that 360Chrome can legitimately be considered to be any form of serious malware, I will continue to use it without a thought. There's a very fine line between legitimate security concerns and paranoia.

Sorry, I personally do not agree.

If I see someone starts searching in my bedrooms and cabinets - I do not need any additional "proves" for "legitimate security concerns", even if I myself let him in on my porch. Nope, even the police has to present "proves" for such action or ask for permission.

So that's why we are talking that this suspictious behaviour should be at least mentioned.

2 hours ago, we3fan said:

ArcticFoxie has sacrificed a lot of his free time to make all these builds, he doesn't have to share it with us but he chooses to do so.
We should all be grateful for his work.

Oh, really? Should we be grateful for ANY work?

Virus and malware makers spend a lot of efforts to infect our PCs "for free", should we thank them as well?

[Humming Owl]

To be honest the only way to not get your data filtered to anything is to not use digital technology at all. There will be always something that can be extracted from us as long as we use a computer.

That being said, when I first started modding this browser I was very scared of my data being sent to china and all that stuff. At the end I losed that fear because it is useless (and also maybe because I have nothing to hide). I reduced all the outgoing traffic of the browser to the internet I could see in the extended amouth of period I was testing the browser. AFAIK, the only thing that matters is the outgoing traffic as it is the data that can be sent to the internet, requested by servers out of the computer. With this I am not saying that you should not be afraid of your data being filtered but to address that being extremely fearful about data being filtered its not correct (its bad for health as well), we all have a level of comprehension with which we can tell if something is dangerous or not.

Also, IMO malware/virus detection software is as paranoid as a person that is afraid of black cats because they are bad luck entities. In Linux OSes there are not such things (and if they are, they are very unpopular) because it is the OS itself that should be able to protect himself from external stuff.

Regarding the loader of the browser of this thread, I believe it can be written in a BATCH file completely, if it loads the browser with arguments and deletes several folders at the end of execution then that can be acomplished with a BATCH file. I don't know about registry edits in BATCH but I know BATCH allows registry editing.

Cheers.

PD: Sorry for my english, I have not practiced in a while.

[Tripredacus]

15 hours ago, Dave-H said:

I bet it's still no worse than using the 'latest and greatest' browsers on Windows 10 and 11, which millions are doing, sending masses of usage data to servers in the States and elsewhere. If 360Chrome is sending it to China

If the external servers that the browsers send info to are known then the IPs or domains should be listed so that people can add them to any firewall or proxy they happen to have.

As a small example, in my Dev environment, it is completely isolated however I have a set of 10 IP addresses outside of the DHCP scope that allow internet access, but the firewall is configured to block all access to Microsoft websites from those IPs.

People can choose for themselves whether they want to use the browser or not, and how involved they want to be in using it.

[mina7601]

4 hours ago, we3fan said:

ArcticFoxie has sacrificed a lot of his free time to make all these builds, he doesn't have to share it with us but he chooses to do so.
We should all be grateful for his work.
I personally trust his judgement.
We are not forced to use his builds, if someone doesn't like his builds, he is welcome not to use them.
If someone thinks there is something bad about his builds, he should use constructive criticism, but please no bad remarks, ArcticFoxie doesn't deserve this.
We should all consider ourselves lucky to have someone like ArcticFoxie.
I am sure most of us would agree.

Yes, I mainly agree with you. I didn't use ArcticFoxie/NotHereToPlayGames's (as well as Humming Owl's) builds immediately after they shared it (but I was still viewing the topics regarding them), but started using them this year at mid-almost the end of November, And they are working well to me, I am very grateful for both of their work, and I consider myself lucky to have such people as well. You should remember that the Chinese created the main browser itself (360Chrome). We wouldn't have the browsers without them. (as originally said here by @UCyborg)

Edited December 12, 2022 by mina7601

[Wunderbar98]

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Dave-H wrote:
If 360Chrome is sending it to China and/or Russia, they can fill their boots as far as I'm concerned.
I hope they choke on it!
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A detailed telemetry analysis would be more productive. In older browsers some IP addresses may no longer connect or redirect.

On topic because you made it on topic:
Racist hate speech from a moderator in an international forum, wishing harm on others, for shame. Hate begets more hate, stop the cycle to create an environment where we can all co-exist peacefully.

This incident has not (yet) been reported, let your conscience be your guide.

My posts may drift off topic but i'm not in the business of promoting hate. In most modern workplaces, including USA, your comment would promptly trigger a security escort out the door. If your lucky, maybe paid or unpaid leave until the incident is investigated.

Background, both my parents and spouse's parents come from authoritarian countries (Asia and Europe). I can assure you there are good and evil people everywhere. Most citizens, for obvious reasons, do not choose to live in an authoritarian environment. Some were fortunate enough to leave (escape) but the hate and racism continues for them regardless where they live.

Off-topic:
Most Asian and Russian hackers would quickly make a mockery of our abilities.

Post-script:
Relevant screengrabs archived as current moderators have created an environment of mistrust by deleting undesirable posts.