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Well yoltboy01 gets the prize! After months of radio silence on the issue, Mozilla finally wrote back to my question on Bugzilla, that they WILL allow Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 to run Firefox ESR 115. This was up in the air as to when support was going to get yanked. For awhile, it seemed that maybe ESR 102 spelled the end of the line for these versions of Windows. I cannot speak for "release" versions of Firefox though. Anyway, here's our correspondence (at the bottom of the page) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1594270

I'll upload this evening. I wouldn't suspect the rebase to cause errors with other programs but doesn't hurt to verify.

But at least they made a decision. I had to ask to even get that. As for release versions though, who really knows. I suppose this is also good news for Vista Extended Kernel users.

... Dear Astroskipper , my true goal was not to prove you were wrong, especially on such a trivial matter, what good would that do in the broader scheme of things? It was more a proof to myself actually , because (I thought) I had a very vivid recollection of your post in question... As I wrote recently, "I may be wrong as much as anybody else", and I have been wrong in the past, and, no doubt, I'll be wrong again in the future - it's human nature, of course, to be wrong sometimes ("errare humanum est"), more so as age progresses , and it's something I deal with constantly in real life; errors/misjudgments committed either by me or my immediate circle (of relatives/friends, etc.); as long as someone else, preferably impartial, exists to point us towards the "right", we should learn from our mistakes, philosophise a bit and move on ... But I'm going off-topic... Cheers

@yoltboy01 I made it! Even on Windows 7, although I had to swap a fair amount of functions. On Windows 8.1, in the libcef.dll file, replace the missing imports from NETAPI32 with NetGetJoinInformation. And add --no-sandbox of course

Links for Rebuild 6. Not rebased. But will also be missing other miscellaneous changes made along the way as I do not document "change logs" for such a niche project. https://www.dropbox.com/s/bwtlmyoebk4j0hc/360ChromePortable_13.5.1030_rebuild_6_ungoogled.zip?dl=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sn3s4ra40gby6cp/360ChromePortable_13.5.1030_rebuild_6.zip?dl=1

Hi Nico ; I run St52 as my daily driver basically, "File upload" via the VT modern GUI works fine here in my "dirty" profile: I then launched latest NM28 in an almost fresh profile (no extensions, only slight GUI customisation ), and "File upload" via the VT modern GUI also works as expected there: So I believe it's something in your current NM28 configuration that prevents the VT File upload from functioning as expected ... Kindest regards

No worries here, too ; but I can assure you it did not contain that screenshot "when it went live the first time"; as I've posted in the past in this thread, I'm subscribed to this thread and have the MSFN forum software configured in such a way so as to send me e-mail notifications whenever new posts are being published in this thread - the software sends an initial e-mail ONLY when a post goes first "live", later edits by a post's author do not trigger further e-mail notifications ; thus, I have to visit the thread through my browser to become aware of additional in-same-post content... FTR, below is a screenshot of your post the very first time it went live, as it appeared inside my e-mail client: That e-mail was received at 202303280017GMT; and I'm extremely lucky, dare I say , that Bing's cache has saved your initial post just two minutes after it went live, https://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=https%3a%2f%2fmsfn.org%2fboard%2ftopic%2f184051-my-browser-builds-part-4%2fpage%2f74&d=3263078889977&mkt=en-WW&setlang=en-US&w=ur8pG3tLReOOvMj2Ov9a9kvf_SOCrEvI and it indeed first appeared without an image attachment: "Case closed" for me ... As ever, best wishes!

Looks to me like an "identity crisis" web browser. Intended customer is the "gamer" crowd that want their web browser to look like a "game". Not for me, but "to each their own". All it's missing is a machine gun at the bottom that you aim at your mouse-clicks using a "game controller" instead of a mouse.

... Did you remember to also toggle "dom.getRootNode.enabled" to "true"? These prefs are actually a "wedded couple", so to speak - if one is set to true, the other has to be set to true, too - and vice versa ... ... FWIW, both I and @UCyborg mentioned, here in this thread, it's not the case ; my own advice came after the recommendation issued by upstream not to simultaneously enable both (i.e. palefill+nativeWC): UCyborg (a "hobbyist" coder, BTW by profession ) later posted additional input: ... He specifically cites GitHub above, but palefill does also include code pertaining to VirusTotal, e.g.: https://github.com/martok/palefill/commit/657b2b1 https://github.com/martok/palefill/commit/6001e31 Kind regards

But back then on XP/Vista, when you upgraded from Release 51.x, you were forced to upgrade to ESR 52.0. You could NOT install Release 52.0 (even though they were the same initial base release)

Thank you for this - need to ground myself because I'm dealing with a lot right now. Yeah, I said I wasn't going to return to the funny farm but as I put in my sig line, I'm going to walk alone as It appears I'm the only one left in this section. I don't mind my own company and being my own audience on a computer forum because there is no place left for me to go to write, and even if something I say helps 1 person out there it was worth it. So, today, right now, just going on auto-pilot and this is ok because our mind can take over when our spirit and body is missing in other aspects. Listening to your video @legacyfan and what you wrote @UCyborg did make me feel less alone as its all too easy to alienated in a society with false and unrealistic expectations. I know staying in the house for long lengths of time in decreases the desire to take part in the game but the weather is getting nice and I'm looking forward to walking alone on the sidewalk and feeling connected to the earth without interference from other jaded and conflicted wondering people to drain one of what energy they've left. Things are changing and not in a good way imo and its becoming even more difficult for those struggling to just get through day-by-day. No need to reply or react (like or upvote) to anything going forward that I write in here, I'm fine and grateful I have this space and I'll be true and kind till my last breath even to adversaries. Hopefully I'm start to find a way to be more positive and optimistic (hopefully), but sometimes hard to see thought the endless tunnel sometimes. EDIT: I also don't attempt to fix typos or grammar errors in this section as that would be disingenuous because those mistakes reflect how I am and was feeling when I wrote and posted.

That's awesome to know you have that working on your system. Thanks! And yep! It's been a couple of years now that I couldn't get Malwarebytes Premium 3.5.1.2522 to work in my Windows XP system. And even MBAM's support couldn't help to fix this issue. Today I thought to try it the last time. I had to dig deep into my system and removed all the remnants of old security programs and others, including a manual cleaning of my registry. Apparently, it did something.

That's awesome to know you have that working on your system.

Yes, your posts describing your experiences with Avast are historical to me.

Hello @Dave-H! I finally got Malwarebytes Premium 3.5.1.2522 working in my second system partition. I updated it, and the version of its definitions is 1.0.29410 I received today, 28-03-2023. Do you have the same version in your installation? Is that the most recent? I had a look at the MBAM forum and read some comment (also some of yours ). There I found this topic: https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/295844-legacy-3512522-sudden-red-triangle-your-updates-are-not-current/#comment-1558895 It seems that Malwarebytes wants to completely discontinue support for version 3.5.1.2522, even under Windows XP. No further update of the definitions!? What do you know and think about this? Cheers

Lets just hope that 115 won't be the last for 7/8.1 (or that newer versions won't require a lot of patching)

... Noted and original post of mine edited accordingly... It was just the level of your coding expertise that probably made me think you're coding for a living ... This thread (and the forums in general) needs more "coding-apt" members, beyond the "average mass" of just "browser users", of which mass I, too, constitute a part ... Hence, your erudite contributions are always welcome here ...

Not by profession actually, it was just a casual hobby so far. Schools I attended did give a very superficial overlook of coding in C#, but things I did for me required other languages.

And now there's another, confirming that at least ESR 115 will run on Windows 7 and 8x https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1594270

Ah alright, I havent thought about that. If you try that out, I would love to hear if it works

thanks to everyone and yeah, the extended kernel is just the best thing i've seen in a while, even if it's not perfect it's still impressive

Unless if there are any alternatives (free, and not commercial) for me to try other than Panda Dome, I'm staying with AVG Antivirus for now.

My guess: Firefox 115 will be the last major update. From then on 7/8.1 users will only receive Security Updates till August/October 2024.

Valve dropping support for 7/8 , enjoy Steam while you can. https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

You know that 52 ESR is based on 52 release, right? 52 (up to 52.0.2) release runs too on XP and Vista, but it will auto-update to 52.9.0 ESR.

I don't think people recycle enough - just seems to be the right thing to do than just create bigger garbage bags. Gonna take ages for most of the waste to degrade.

Not so fast - ESR 52 ran on XP and Vista - but NOT the release version.

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it is a great project! it even got a new release this year

You're welcome!

Even if that's the case, it's still a true life fact. Otherwise, I agree with the other points you made.

hope to have positive news

Honestly, I don't know what you mean, sorry about my bad english,Even if the translation extension is used...

Hi @Danfuy, hello from Belgium and welcome to MSFN! I wish you to enjoy the forums! Have a nice day. hpwamr

I personally prefer the SQUARES. Why install a font that I can not read?

Agreed!

I don't see anything! If the web site loads and functions, then who cares if it throws up some "banner" saying they don't "support" your browser. Those "banners" citing "support" despite the web site "working" is about as usefull as the web site owner plastering a banner on what sports team s/he "supports".

I believe you can just use a user-agent switcher extension and you will be fine. That's just a little notification Google does to scare you to be honest (at least for now).

Glad to know that everything worked out for you! It just goes to show why Revo is such a trusted program after all of these years. I couldn't commend the developers more highly...with so many sketchy pieces of software out there, and with how much programs tend to change and decline over the years, Revo has stayed reliable with its functionality and performance even on very old PCs. Old school functionality in a new school world. Here's hoping the freeware version will continue to support XP for the foreseeable future!

Hello @Davide0033, Welcome to MSFN!

Correct. I think it's beneficial for Serpent users here and for developers of Windows XP UXP applications to have a direct line of communication with people involved in upstream development. There have been very negative interactions between MSFN members and Pale Moon forum members in the past. I think it is time to move past that and embrace the fact that we all are using code that comes from a shared history and to work towards a common goal of creating browsers that break away from Google's monopoly of the web, regardless of if that code runs on Windows XP or Windows 10 or Linux. This was a consideration when I took over the Basilisk project. I eventually decided that it would not be feasible to do this. Basilisk is an application built upon the upstream Moonchild Productions UXP platform. The upstream UXP platform has no XP support and the UXP development team have no interest in XP support, therefore Basilisk will not have XP support. That being said, if you need Basilisk on XP you can consider Serpent an officially recommended option from my perspective. I appreciate roytam1's work in maintaining Serpent and try to be active in this thread since Serpent is a fork of Basilisk. It is very likely that Serpent bugs will also affect Basilisk. Two reasons: 1 - It was removed from the UXP platform. 2 - There were multiple security vulnerabilities in the multi process implementation that Mozilla was using around the time Firefox 52 was released and UXP was created. Mozilla's current implementation is in Rust so the fixes cannot be backported. There is no plan to add this back at this time.

CS 2 on Windows 7 runs without any issues ( Sorry for the image compression, MSFN allows a limited size )

Please Sir, do not jump to unfounded conclusions. I do not use hacks. Updated within the last supported opera 95( chrome 109 ) Kind Regards

No ! last opera is 95. There was an update within version 95. From 95 something to 95.0.4635.80.

I don't know what the heck happened yesterday, but Windows prints today, though I rebooted at least two times yesterday. And TBH, I forgot a lot of trouble with current printer was due to using extension cable, which I used in the past and took a while to pinpoint. Linux somehow had better time communicating using that cable.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2022/10/24/common-charger-eu-ministers-give-final-approval-to-one-size-fits-all-charging-port/

Tesla seems to be all-the-rage in Europe. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/best-selling-cars-europe-2022 https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2022-september-europe-car-sales-and-market-analysis/

I've heard about this technology: https://web.dev/gpu/ and it seems to be only available to windows 10 only. Do you think that this is the final nail in the coffin?