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Well yoltboy01 gets the prize! After months of radio silence on the issue, Mozilla finally wrote back to my question on Bugzilla, that they WILL allow Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 to run Firefox ESR 115. This was up in the air as to when support was going to get yanked. For awhile, it seemed that maybe ESR 102 spelled the end of the line for these versions of Windows. I cannot speak for "release" versions of Firefox though. Anyway, here's our correspondence (at the bottom of the page) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1594270

I'll upload this evening. I wouldn't suspect the rebase to cause errors with other programs but doesn't hurt to verify.

But at least they made a decision. I had to ask to even get that. As for release versions though, who really knows. I suppose this is also good news for Vista Extended Kernel users.

... Dear Astroskipper , my true goal was not to prove you were wrong, especially on such a trivial matter, what good would that do in the broader scheme of things? It was more a proof to myself actually , because (I thought) I had a very vivid recollection of your post in question... As I wrote recently, "I may be wrong as much as anybody else", and I have been wrong in the past, and, no doubt, I'll be wrong again in the future - it's human nature, of course, to be wrong sometimes ("errare humanum est"), more so as age progresses , and it's something I deal with constantly in real life; errors/misjudgments committed either by me or my immediate circle (of relatives/friends, etc.); as long as someone else, preferably impartial, exists to point us towards the "right", we should learn from our mistakes, philosophise a bit and move on ... But I'm going off-topic... Cheers

@yoltboy01 I made it! Even on Windows 7, although I had to swap a fair amount of functions. On Windows 8.1, in the libcef.dll file, replace the missing imports from NETAPI32 with NetGetJoinInformation. And add --no-sandbox of course

Looks to me like an "identity crisis" web browser. Intended customer is the "gamer" crowd that want their web browser to look like a "game". Not for me, but "to each their own". All it's missing is a machine gun at the bottom that you aim at your mouse-clicks using a "game controller" instead of a mouse.

... Did you remember to also toggle "dom.getRootNode.enabled" to "true"? These prefs are actually a "wedded couple", so to speak - if one is set to true, the other has to be set to true, too - and vice versa ... ... FWIW, both I and @UCyborg mentioned, here in this thread, it's not the case ; my own advice came after the recommendation issued by upstream not to simultaneously enable both (i.e. palefill+nativeWC): UCyborg (a "hobbyist" coder, BTW by profession ) later posted additional input: ... He specifically cites GitHub above, but palefill does also include code pertaining to VirusTotal, e.g.: https://github.com/martok/palefill/commit/657b2b1 https://github.com/martok/palefill/commit/6001e31 Kind regards

Links for Rebuild 6. Not rebased. But will also be missing other miscellaneous changes made along the way as I do not document "change logs" for such a niche project. https://www.dropbox.com/s/bwtlmyoebk4j0hc/360ChromePortable_13.5.1030_rebuild_6_ungoogled.zip?dl=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sn3s4ra40gby6cp/360ChromePortable_13.5.1030_rebuild_6.zip?dl=1

yeah, it should be still working fine

That's awesome to know you have that working on your system. Thanks! And yep! It's been a couple of years now that I couldn't get Malwarebytes Premium 3.5.1.2522 to work in my Windows XP system. And even MBAM's support couldn't help to fix this issue. Today I thought to try it the last time. I had to dig deep into my system and removed all the remnants of old security programs and others, including a manual cleaning of my registry. Apparently, it did something.

That's awesome to know you have that working on your system.

Hello @Dave-H! I finally got Malwarebytes Premium 3.5.1.2522 working in my second system partition. I updated it, and the version of its definitions is 1.0.29410 I received today, 28-03-2023. Do you have the same version in your installation? Is that the most recent? I had a look at the MBAM forum and read some comment (also some of yours ). There I found this topic: https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/295844-legacy-3512522-sudden-red-triangle-your-updates-are-not-current/#comment-1558895 It seems that Malwarebytes wants to completely discontinue support for version 3.5.1.2522, even under Windows XP. No further update of the definitions!? What do you know and think about this? Cheers

Hi Nico ; I run St52 as my daily driver basically, "File upload" via the VT modern GUI works fine here in my "dirty" profile: I then launched latest NM28 in an almost fresh profile (no extensions, only slight GUI customisation ), and "File upload" via the VT modern GUI also works as expected there: So I believe it's something in your current NM28 configuration that prevents the VT File upload from functioning as expected ... Kindest regards

I totally agree! Errare humanum est! One of my favourite Latin sayings! BTW, I do and did not have any problems to be proved wrong. As a mathematician I see evidence for what it is. And this is never about sensitivities or subjective feelings, and it doesn't matter what kind of matter. In any case, you could see in my screenshot what I did. And that was important to me. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Not so fast - ESR 52 ran on XP and Vista - but NOT the release version.

Looks like there might be another revision of European vehicle emissions standards - Euro 7.

Not by profession actually, it was just a casual hobby so far. Schools I attended did give a very superficial overlook of coding in C#, but things I did for me required other languages.

As I wrote in another topic, I managed to get it working BTW I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the latest version of VS Code works.

I'm sorry , but you're mixing up two different matters. Font Fingerprint Defender has nothing to do with remote fonts, it protects against websites that scan your system fonts. It makes a random font fingerprint, which is very good ! For remote fonts I just use the flag --disable-remote-fonts (so no extension neded at all). The flag is old, but it still works, try it.

Wow - great work! Very nice to see actually I totally forgot that you have to put --no-sandbox on Spotify as well. Good to know tho

And now there's another, confirming that at least ESR 115 will run on Windows 7 and 8x https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1594270

No worries here, too ; but I can assure you it did not contain that screenshot "when it went live the first time"; as I've posted in the past in this thread, I'm subscribed to this thread and have the MSFN forum software configured in such a way so as to send me e-mail notifications whenever new posts are being published in this thread - the software sends an initial e-mail ONLY when a post goes first "live", later edits by a post's author do not trigger further e-mail notifications ; thus, I have to visit the thread through my browser to become aware of additional in-same-post content... FTR, below is a screenshot of your post the very first time it went live, as it appeared inside my e-mail client: That e-mail was received at 202303280017GMT; and I'm extremely lucky, dare I say , that Bing's cache has saved your initial post just two minutes after it went live, https://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=https%3a%2f%2fmsfn.org%2fboard%2ftopic%2f184051-my-browser-builds-part-4%2fpage%2f74&d=3263078889977&mkt=en-WW&setlang=en-US&w=ur8pG3tLReOOvMj2Ov9a9kvf_SOCrEvI and it indeed first appeared without an image attachment: "Case closed" for me ... As ever, best wishes!

Ah alright, I havent thought about that. If you try that out, I would love to hear if it works

Steam to drop Windows 7 and 8.1 on January 1st 2024. They say it's because Chromium no longer supports Windows 7. It looks like a lot of Chromium dependent apps will drop support soon. Announcement on Steam's FAQ page.

... Well, I commented very shortly after your own post went "live" , then put the laptop to "Sleep" and went myself to bed ; when I first read your post and composed my own comment/reply to it, your post hadn't been edited yet, no screenshot had been attached at that time ...

... Did you remember to also toggle "dom.getRootNode.enabled" to "true"? These prefs are actually a "wedded couple", so to speak - if one is set to true, the other has to be set to true, too - and vice versa ... That's why I provided a screenshot in my post above. Didn't you see my preference settings in the extra window? The image actually speaks for itself. Additionally, I had inserted red arrows. Since we have discussed here the settings of dom.webcomponents.enabled and dom.getRootNode.enabled, I do control them that way. If both are set to false, the lamp goes on. If both are set to true, the lamp goes off. The lamp is in the toolbar to the right of my red CSP button. Don't let the many buttons confuse you! My browser configuration is very special and also a little more complex than usual. Here is my screenshot once again: I've already tested it again. Now both, Web Components and Palefill enabled, are working on VirusTotal. Very strange! Anyway! Thanks for summing up all essential facts! You know I read this thread as attentively as possible. And your posts in particular! And @roytam1's and @UCyborg's ones, too, of course!

Tracking Token Stripper 2.6.2.6.0.0 Font Fingerprint 0.1.0.1

I'm sorry to disappoint you, your readings of my mood are wrong, it's on the contrary, I was not satisified with one of the chinese browsers not deleting cookies. Spent a couple of hours and found no solution.

I have just tested VirusTotal in my New Moon 28 (2023-03-24) with dom.webcomponents.enabled set to true. But It only works properly if Palefill is disabled. If not, the homepage renders correctly but a file can't be uploaded. I thought Web Components and Palefill would not harm each other, but reality speaks a different language. Or was it just a coincidence? I'll have to check that the next days. If you're looking for problems, just turn on your computer!

Thanks to extensive coding work carried out by upstream developer FranklinDM, "Web Components Slots" are now supported in UXP natively ; last Saturday's UXP-builds by Roy come with that support backported ; as such, now the "modern GUI" version of VirusTotal can be successfully rendered and used in NM28/St52 without disabling the native WC implementation and without excessive CPU consumption (YMMV, here it was OK ) : https://www.virustotal.com/gui/home/upload

If one site hosts multiple domains, the certificate will typically include a Subject Alternative Name for each domain hosted at that site. As long as the domain you're accessing is one of the certificate's SANs, the browser shouldn't give a warning. But if the domain isn't listed as a SAN, a warning should appear. @luweitest : Mathwiz is right ; below is a capture of the "SAN field" of the server certificate on "forums.internetfreedom.org":

Create a bookmarklet with (or type into the address box) the following script: javascript:document.body.innerHTML.split('https://').join('http://')

Glad to know that everything worked out for you! It just goes to show why Revo is such a trusted program after all of these years. I couldn't commend the developers more highly...with so many sketchy pieces of software out there, and with how much programs tend to change and decline over the years, Revo has stayed reliable with its functionality and performance even on very old PCs. Old school functionality in a new school world. Here's hoping the freeware version will continue to support XP for the foreseeable future!

Hello @Davide0033, Welcome to MSFN!

Welcome to MSFN

Correct. I think it's beneficial for Serpent users here and for developers of Windows XP UXP applications to have a direct line of communication with people involved in upstream development. There have been very negative interactions between MSFN members and Pale Moon forum members in the past. I think it is time to move past that and embrace the fact that we all are using code that comes from a shared history and to work towards a common goal of creating browsers that break away from Google's monopoly of the web, regardless of if that code runs on Windows XP or Windows 10 or Linux. This was a consideration when I took over the Basilisk project. I eventually decided that it would not be feasible to do this. Basilisk is an application built upon the upstream Moonchild Productions UXP platform. The upstream UXP platform has no XP support and the UXP development team have no interest in XP support, therefore Basilisk will not have XP support. That being said, if you need Basilisk on XP you can consider Serpent an officially recommended option from my perspective. I appreciate roytam1's work in maintaining Serpent and try to be active in this thread since Serpent is a fork of Basilisk. It is very likely that Serpent bugs will also affect Basilisk. Two reasons: 1 - It was removed from the UXP platform. 2 - There were multiple security vulnerabilities in the multi process implementation that Mozilla was using around the time Firefox 52 was released and UXP was created. Mozilla's current implementation is in Rust so the fixes cannot be backported. There is no plan to add this back at this time.

CS 2 on Windows 7 runs without any issues ( Sorry for the image compression, MSFN allows a limited size )

Please Sir, do not jump to unfounded conclusions. I do not use hacks. Updated within the last supported opera 95( chrome 109 ) Kind Regards

No ! last opera is 95. There was an update within version 95. From 95 something to 95.0.4635.80.

Any Chrome up to 109 will work on 7/8/8.1. It's official, and had been said many times. The point of the topic is to discuss newer versions.

Chromium 114 on Windows 8.1 (thanks to @mjd79) Pic: imgur.com/a/k0WiIKa

The latest Chromium 113 build runs on Windows 8.1.

I believe what this means is that improvements were made to the JavaScript core compared to the 'stable' Mypal68. If I was reading what Feodor wrote correctly, 68.13 improves it to Firefox 76 standards, which seems to mean improved nullish coalescing & optional chaining implementations along with other important back-end upgrades. Of course, I could be completely wrong on this one, but that's what I got out of it.

I don't know what the heck happened yesterday, but Windows prints today, though I rebooted at least two times yesterday. And TBH, I forgot a lot of trouble with current printer was due to using extension cable, which I used in the past and took a while to pinpoint. Linux somehow had better time communicating using that cable.

My guess: Firefox 115 will be the last major update. From then on 7/8.1 users will only receive Security Updates till August/October 2024.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2022/10/24/common-charger-eu-ministers-give-final-approval-to-one-size-fits-all-charging-port/

Tesla seems to be all-the-rage in Europe. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/best-selling-cars-europe-2022 https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2022-september-europe-car-sales-and-market-analysis/

Mine has a button to turn it off, though it defaults back to on each time the ignition is turned on. I've seen on a video on YouTube that eg. older Audis can be recoded to remember the state. Though for newer cars of the last 2 years or so that are manufactured under one of the VAG brands, the surest thing seems to be a small memory module plugged into the wiring below the button. I don't know, not sure if official personnel around these parts would be willing to do any mods in that direction. Obviously, memorizing the setting would be the best, though default off and keeping the ability to turn it on would also be fine.