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Was wondering why he was away from the forums. Dencorso was such a nice person, may he rest in peace.4 points
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A truly portable program would not write anything on its own in the registry in the first place, though. And naturally, it's expected you can put a portable program on a USB flash stick, launch it on any computer while retaining all user data.4 points
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Yep! You're absolutely right! Unfortunately, the 360Chrome browsers have never been truely portable and 360Chrome v13.5 build 2022, either. Therefore, the designation 360ChromePortable_13.5.2022_rebuild_3_ungoogled_MSFN.zip is rather a little misleading.3 points
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Thank you very much @rereser, for your calming news...so all is good, normal.3 points
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360chrome is portable as in : it removes regedit entry's when closed. and all data is retained in the 360chrome folder. encrypted data ( passwords and such ) are not "portable" from one pc to another. that is a chrome / windows security "feature". some reading : https://portableapps.com/node/21266 as for chrome waking sleep drives : more reading : https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=68655 old chromium bug could still be present. no data is send anywhere and no unwanted connections are made.3 points
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Technically speaking, there is an extended kernel for Windows 7, but it's in development, also, it works in a different way ---> https://github.com/vxiiduu/VxKex2 points
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Inflammatory and sneering remarks about other people's work are not welcome here. Please desist from this.2 points
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--disable-infobars has been deprecated since Chrome version 76, so it doesn't work unfortunately.2 points
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Excuse me, why should I force such a terrible experience with "modern" apps on me ? I don't quite get it.2 points
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Thank you so much for your news, I feel relaxed now.2 points
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Makes no sense at all... very sorry this happens to you Wunderbar98.2 points
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Quite by accident, I got it to work! I went back to IceDove and suddenly, it started working. I had the protocol just set to "Normal Password," so there must be something about the interaction with the Office 365 mail server that automatically triggers OAuth2. Then I went back to IceApe, set it up there, and it worked there too! I haven't gone back and tried MailNews again, but I bet the trick is simply to select "Normal Password" rather than explicitly selecting "OAuth2," which I assume is only needed for things like Yahoo Mail. Here are the settings I used in IceApe/IceDove that worked: The user name needs to be the full email address, including the domain, so Office 365 knows which server to direct the client to in order to validate my password. At the moment, neither do I. My XP system is at work, so I've been downloading and testing these email clients on my Windows 7 home system. Obviously the "acid test" will come Monday when I return to work and try to set it up on IceApe on Windows XP.2 points
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Thanks for getting back to me @Dave-H. I enjoyed this thread and it helped me very much but i probably won't post much anymore. Seems strange to lock an on-topic thread in a slow forum. Thread lock requests, closed door discussions, arbitrary post deletion and title renames without comment or consultation. Seems underhanded but nothing surprises me anymore. If this thread doesn't meet someone's needs, it's pretty easy to ignore. It's also pretty easy for another member to start a new topic catering exactly to what they require. Sad, leaves a sour taste. To the thread lock requester, shame on you, please learn to share space and co-habitate with fellow humans. Feel free to lock the thread it doesn't matter anymore, but please have the decency to keep this post. Thank-you to all who participated here in the last few years. I learned a lot and have some very good running Windows 98 systems.2 points
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I'm in the US, and it isn't illegal if MS has the ESU updates public via Microsoft Update Catalog1 point
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What's there so hard to understand ? You're trying to catch it with your eyes or simple software that is not meant for such tasks, while our dear @AstroSkipper , whom I never doubt, is using a modern piece of software and it is based on artificial intelligence. 360Chrome browser performs spinning (scanning) of any connected HDD/USB/SSD disks and/or accesses (scans) them ! Why ? We assume to track your info!, and these actions WiseVector StopX (clever software) tries to intercept and ends in multiple BSOD. Will you still use this browser after you know this, is up to you !1 point
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Thanks for your kind reply ; obviously, I wasn't aware ... Today, with more free time on my hands, I searched this further and it seems it was first removed in Chrome 65, then reinstated in Chrome 66, to be permanently removed, as you wrote, in Chrome 76 ; what a mess ; of course, all was done to cater to "user security", the usual "excuse" when useful features are being removed:1 point
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All 360Chrome browser editions (including 360Chrome v13.5 build 2022) I have tested on my Windows XP system cause BSODs due to my AV program WiseVector StopX which seems to try stopping strange accesses and behaviour of these browsers. I had to add them completely to both exclusions lists (general and advanced) in WiseVector StopX what I usually do not need to do with other browsers, otherwise these 360Chrome browsers would continue generating BSODs and would be unusuable for me. Frankly, I am not happy with that and use them only if necessary. Not to mention the enormous consumption of system resources, especially with regard to the browser edition of this thread, 360Chrome v13.5 build 2022.1 point
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Because sometimes they will be needed for something you don't know yet but you need it if you use Vista as a main OS, and you will don't need to be reported for the missing functions anymore. That's just like "Everything at Once" so the users will not have to wait another few years to enjoy their beloved modern apps or the newer version/updated daily apps. I don't mean to run it. You just have to obtain the MS Store apps and their data files, dynamic link libraries, and other PE-formatted dependency files from the Windows 10 VM/another PC and check for their missing needed functions using Dependency Walker.1 point
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I don't think it's possible to run Microsoft Store apps on Windows Vista Extended Kernel and/or on Windows 7.1 point
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I wrote, I get the same spinning discs like you . I used this browser (old version) for some time but tried this one only after your reply just out of curiosity ! Also my firewall sometimes told me "incoming traffic prevented".1 point
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Not really. Portability has nothing to do with leftovers that are not affecting the functionality. The first one is called "standalone". The portable is the second one. The word "portable" is then misleading: that is STANDALONE installation. And it has nothing to do with "windows security "feature"", since all really portable browser installations (such as old firefox and opera) do not have this pervert "security feature". Though it may leave registy entry, for instanse, if you assign it as default browser. Very strange reaction from developers: it is difficult to reproduce, really? And then just silently closed as "obsolete", huh... looks more like intentional "feature", and very few people actually care... No, really: how many users do actually care about botnet on their PCs, if it does not overheat the CPU more, then antivirus-spyguard-blah-blah-security-feature, that reports nothing?1 point
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Nicely said ! Unfortunately it seems impossible to get here since it's still based on the old russian sterter app that simply removes the registry entries and does nothing to prevent them in the first places.1 point
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Just joined and thought I would introduce myself I don't work in IT sector, but I guess you can call me the go to guy, whenever friends have computer issues. Anyway, glad to be here.1 point
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no clue from me in the moment since my left hand is still in a splint so it is not very feasible to do some serious development. (thats also why my porting progress from pm26 to my fx28-vc8 repo is stopped since 12 Nov) EDIT: check out this bugzilla entry: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82346 and for the issue that classilla/phoenix doesn't show up main window in win9x, I don't have any ideas for now. OT: I think I'm still lucky that my left hand had a cast for only about 48 hours then replaced with a splint so I can remove the splint and clean my left hand during my shower time.1 point
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VC5 knows nothing about PDB, so you have to remove those switches from makefiles.1 point
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So you must try more newer modern apps that are released beyond 2019, or apps with version/build newer than 2021, in which they are currently popular and have aesthetic-minimalist UI with rounded corners and eye-catchy effects and animations e.g. Spotify, Dropbox, Netflix, etc., and use Dependency Walker to check for the missing functions. Please try also the Microsoft Store apps on Windows Vista Extended Kernel if possible.1 point
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Well, sorry to be telling this, but it does not seem to be neither portable nor free of some "spying" features. First, when I start it from different drive on different system - it loses all cookies (=all settings and registration on sites). And when I move it back again - the same, it loses all new and does not find old ones. Second, I have a "cold storage" drive in my system, which is almost all the time in "sleep" mode. When I start this browser - it wakes up that drive. What for? None of other browsers neither other SW I use does not do so. Very strange behaviour.1 point
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@msfntor, interesting posts , I'm glad you decided to stay !1 point
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It appears MCP is working on adding it to UXP (New Moon 28, Serpent 52). It's partially implemented and @roytam1 has been adding the fixes to Serpent 55 too. This was from just two months ago: So CustomElements may get finished. That said, it's a big job and there's no guarantee it'll be complete anytime soon. In the meantime, you can turn to the Palefill add-on to fill in some of what's missing for some Web sites. On your Win 7 system(s) you have more options: in addition to Edge, you have Chrome, modern Firefox, official Pale Moon, official Basilisk (now under new ownership), Waterfox and Waterfox Classic, etc. I assume Chrome and Edge are both going EOL but the last Win 7 version will still work with modern web sites for some time.1 point
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I just registered for this thread. First I want to express my highest respect and gratitude for the work you're doing in keeping older OSes alive and somewhat compatible to the modern web. I'm using you're builds many years on nearly all of my machines, mainly XP and also on older CPUs. Due to javascript demands I was forced this year to switch to edge on my main PCs using win7 to use some important sites. Just now I was greeted with the prospect of EOL for Edge on win7 and I find myself again hitting the obsolence wall. F**k M$. So back to the basics and this let me here again trying to find out what it would take to improve usability of your builds. I checked using F12 and found "CustomElements not defined" Long story short: What would it take to implement CustomElements in JS? More and more sites use it and let our browsers falter. Thanks so far.1 point
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Vista and 7 are currently at the same level of Chrome, so I'd say , you'd be quite fine up to at least May-June.1 point
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There will be some updates and new dll functions soon, as more users reporting the missing functions from the new modern softwares and drivers. But unfortunately the development takes so long time so that you will spend too much time to wait for it. I would contribute for the Vista Extended Kernel, but I want to report the new functions from Windows 7, 8, and 10 at once instead of the missing needed functions from Dependency Walker of the each software only. But I'm rejected because of this way. @win32 I'm so sorry.1 point
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I didn't remove it from tree or disable it with compile-time switch so OAuth2 should be still available in MN and IA/ID. for ID/IA, OAuth2 front-end code is unimplemented so only MN can do OAuth2.1 point
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Hello @Mathwiz! MailNews is based on Interlink Mail & News from Binary Outcast. I read on their website that they seem to have removed the protocol OAuth2 from their email client. Here is the respective link: https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/release-notes/ Of course, this does not necessarily mean that MailNews no longer supports this protocol, either. It's just a theory! I don't know what @roytam1 exactly did when he built his latest releases of MailNews. Some weeks ago, I was also looking for an email client and found the program OE Classic which is supposed to support the OAuth2 protocol as well: https://www.oeclassic.com/ This is the one I'll try the next time. Maybe, it is what you are looking for. Kind regards, AstroSkipper1 point
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360EE 11.0 has the same problem,may be the Chromium kernerl version was too old1 point
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Aye, it works for me here. Thank you very much @Sampei.Nihira! I hope it works for you too.1 point
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Oh my, I have over 2 000 power on count ony my 5 year old wd blue. Sorry for going off topic, but very cool.1 point
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https://msfn.org/board/topic/180440-hard-disk-reliability-leaderboard/ Not if I can help it.1 point
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I will try this weekend, but if it requires a restart, we may never know if it works.1 point
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and for builds using NSS-Retrozilla are updated as well: http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/gecko17-vc6-new-nss.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/ns9-nss-update.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/CometBird-9.0.1-new-nss.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/CometBird_11.0-new-nss.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/Firefox8-new-nss.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/Firefox10-new-nss.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/phoenix-0.5-cl933-tls12.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/classilla-9.3.3-win32-tls12.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/rzbrowser-tls12-20221208.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/retrozilla-suite-tls12-20221208.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/K-Meleon1.5.4en-US.tls12.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/fx36vc71-20171108_newnss.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/KM74-g22-20221208.win2000.7z http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/palemoon-26.5.0-20221208.win2000.7z1 point
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I have to say that I do work at unnamed company located in czech republic and we have around 120 computers running windows 7 enterprise with valid ESU license. So yeah.. I've clearly never been to business environment. They will be online even after the end of ESU, but we applied strict rules and we have firewall and antivirus in place as well VPN. We also have windows 10 computers ofc but they are being replaced with MacBooks mostly. oh and btw firefox ESR is the browser we use back here. Guess someone in this forum will call Czechia as Eastern europe then.1 point
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nope as reported from BetaArchive: https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=471493#p4714931 point
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This is some devastating news, he was very active over at the Win9x section and others, he will be missed. Rest in Peace.1 point
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Holiday Season Christmas Songs Collection, Joy to the World, Hark the Herald, Carols for Sleep "Wow, awesome .... what a view .... I love it. .. I sit by the fire and look out the window .. I am in bliss .... one day this image will become my living room I pray that this will give everyone who comes here peace and pure relaxation .. ..Christmas came. Hope you have a wonderful New Year. May every day arrange happy hours for you. Peace for everyone!"1 point
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@mina7601, my friend, The fact that I quoted you does not mean that I have any claims against you, don't worry! Your quoted words helped me to write the post, that's all. In fact, I've been thinking for some time to quit the website, because I started to be too tired of my busy activity on the website, sitting in front of the computer for too long during the day... This activity disconnected me too much from my real life... Don't worry, from time to time (but rarely) I'll post, I won't be totally gone, I'm not far away... I stay close, but I want to rest for now, that's all. I would like to thank you personally Mina, and thank all other friends too! ..and I apologize for some of my inputs, which could be embarrassing for you, and for the others... But everything I posted was from the heart, and had only good intentions! I feel very close to you... I wish you all the best in your life, Mina! And I thank the moderators for their patience with me!1 point
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This year just keeps being awful. Had no idea of the weight of the baggage he was carrying. May he rest in peace.1 point