Leaderboard

The fact that Feodor has been able to do as much as he has, given the circumstances, is truly incredible. I admire his dedication and enthusiasm for the projects he's worked on over the years...his 'old' MyPal (29.3.0) is still one of my primary daily-use browsers in XP, and it's been very exciting to see the progress that has been made so far on the newer 68. He's one talented coder, as his 'resurrected' MyPal 68 has proven...it's a shame to look back on that whole fiasco nearly one year later, because the Pale Moon developers had an opportunity to take the highest of high roads by inviting Feodor to work with them and even help them restore official compatibility to benefit XP/Vista users, but instead they fought and alienated him and many others. In a more ideal world, there would have been a mutual respect that could have led to a long-term partnership, maybe even a friendship. I'm genuinely praying for him, his family, and all of his friends...and of course, I'm keeping Roy in my thoughts too as he's in Hong Kong. They both come from places that have been through so much, especially in recent times. To Roy and Feodor: thank you both VERY much for everything you have done. Your efforts have never, ever been in vain.

POSReady 2009 still going strong on the self-service tills in my local Marks and Spencer!

Absolutely sensational! Just when you think XP is down for the count...it's back once again! I'm going to stick with the older/faster browsers that work well for me on my Pentium D, but it's great to know that running very recent versions of Chrome is now an option for the future. Hopefully by the time I find myself needing to use Chrome 102, the One Core API will be more stable and reliable. The fact that it can even run Chrome 102 at this point is a jaw-dropping feat. Thank you for bringing this to our attention...this REALLY made my day!

Maybe; maybe not. It was discussed a few pages back: There is a patch for Waterfox Classic, based on FF 56, but between FF 53 (the St 55 fork point) and FF 56, I think Mozilla's Javascript engine was rewritten in the Rust programming language. Before Russia invaded Ukraine, Feodor2 noted that Rust can be made to output XP-compatible C code, so it's doable, I think, but a lot of work, and of course @feodor2 has been unavailable to help with our trivial matters since the invasion....

I stumbled across this today, and figured it was worth sharing.

This thread is specifically for discussing the Vista extended kernel. Discussion about other drivers is off topic and should be done in dedicated threads please.

@Imacri wrote: ... The version currently available there is Process Explorer v16.43 (the x86 binary has a digital, sha256-only, file signature of 2021-08-17) and, upon testing in my Vista SP2 32-bit laptop, I discovered it doesn't launch under Vista SP2 : The previous release, Process Explorer v16.42 (the x86 binary has a digital, sha256-only, file signature of 2021-06-01), exhibits the exact same behaviour as v16.43 ... However, I can confirm that Process Explorer v16.32 (the x86 binary has a digital, sha256-only, file signature of 2020-09-12) is the Vista End-Of-Service[EoS] version of Process Explorer ; no longer available via the official MS page, but can be retrieved via third party reputable archiving sites (I used FileHorse) ...

This picture is from Thailand. It's like being used in a DNA research company.

Windows NT4 Extended kernel New Added API's : KERNEL32.DLL: Heap32ListFirst Heap32ListNext Heap32First Heap32Next Toolhelp32ReadProcessMemory Process32FirstW Process32First Process32NextW Process32Next Thread32First Thread32Next Module32FirstW Module32First Module32NextW Module32Next CreateToolhelp32Snapshot user32.dll: GetMonitorInfoA MonitorFromWindow shell32.dll: SHGetFolderPathW I managed to run the latest 7-zip version , work slowly but in the right way Update for 15/07/22 New Added API's : SETUPAPI.DLL : SetupDiEnumDeviceInterfaces pSetupMalloc pSetupRealloc ADVAPI32.DLL : ConvertSidToStringSidW OLE32.DLL : CoWaitForMultipleHandles USERENV.DLL : ExpandEnvironmentStringsForUserW ExpandEnvironmentStringsForUserA user32.dll: GetLayeredWindowAttributes GetMonitorInfoW MonitorFromPoint MonitorFromRect SetLayeredWindowAttributes

Hello I occasionally look here, but foremost i look on the github. Today i occupied with wasm error https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/issues/57 this is bunch of sites and new ublock Also i want to fix bsod, however i still don't know what about. https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/issues/3 Too little data, though if you do not want to bother with github please post your bsod data here as described.

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 http://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20220709-ae226cc5a-xpmod.7z Win64 http://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20220709-ae226cc5a-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from UXP: Issue #1948 - Update nestegg library. (b7a771fc) (bd44f8610) - import from UXP: - Issue #1949 - Part 1: Update soundtouch library to 2.3.1. (e98c7b8f) - Issue #1949 - Part 2: Disable exceptions in soundtouch's STTypes.h. (f170360d) (598aa0cea) - import from UXP: Issue #1952 - m-c 1365387: Optimize FinishBoundFunctionInit by delaying atomizing the function name (53d6173c) (ef6acc4c0) - import from UXP: Issue #1952 - m-c 1371593: Avoid repeated string atomizations when retrieving the unresolved name of a bound function (fc6c505d) (566db67c0) - import from UXP: Issue #1952 - m-c 1380962/1: Merge append calls when assembling the source string for native functions (70eee9b0) (fad9f1d25) - import from UXP: Issue #1952 - m-c 1380962/2: Remove unnecessary lambda function in FunctionToString (1e753237) (4cf2e2e82) - ported from UXP: Issue #1952 - m-c 1383775: Clean up function toString/toSource code, remove remnants of source decompiler (24edb805) (f407bb24c) - import from UXP: Issue #1952 - m-c 1440468: Proxied functions can't be passed to Function.prototype.toString.call() (887e6d0a) (742a99745) - ported from UXP: [network] Clean up and update the list of external protocol handlers. (7c429f52) (54713cc40) - ported from UXP: [DOM media] Remove potentially unsafe type accesses when debug logging (6066cc36) (60aa897c5) - import from UXP: Update NSS (2e9df177) (ddf183eb4) - import from UXP: [network] Clear PAC loader when the load failed (991e2ffb) (420d637a7) - import from UXP: [DOM] use the sanitizer to restrict href in svg:use to fragment-only URLs (c0429c9a) (4c0be6cb9) - ported from UXP: [XPCOM] Crash safely when TArray replacements are OOB. (24edb805) (ae226cc5a)

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20220709-3219d2d-uxp-206c9dcbb-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20220709-3219d2d-uxp-206c9dcbb-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20220709-3219d2d-uxp-206c9dcbb-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20220709-d849524bd-uxp-206c9dcbb-xpmod.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20220709-d849524bd-uxp-206c9dcbb-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win64-git-20220709-d849524bd-uxp-206c9dcbb-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #1948 - Update nestegg library. (b7a771fce) - Issue #1949 - Part 1: Update soundtouch library to 2.3.1. (e98c7b8f6) - Issue #1949 - Part 2: Disable exceptions in soundtouch's STTypes.h. (f170360d1) - Issue #1952 - m-c 1365387: Optimize FinishBoundFunctionInit by delaying atomizing the function name (53d6173cf) - Issue #1952 - m-c 1371593: Avoid repeated string atomizations when retrieving the unresolved name of a bound function (fc6c505da) - Issue #1952 - m-c 1380962/1: Merge append calls when assembling the source string for native functions (70eee9b0d) - Issue #1952 - m-c 1380962/2: Remove unnecessary lambda function in FunctionToString (1e753237e) - Issue #1952 - m-c 1383775: Clean up function toString/toSource code, remove remnants of source decompiler (85af7f6e8) - Issue #1952 - m-c 1440468: Proxied functions can't be passed to Function.prototype.toString.call() (887e6d0ab) - [network] Clean up and update the list of external protocol handlers. (7c429f525) - [DOM media] Remove potentially unsafe type accesses when debug logging (6066cc36c) - Update NSS (2706ef696) - [network] Clear PAC loader when the load failed (991e2ffb4) - [DOM] use the sanitizer to restrict href in svg:use to fragment-only URLs (c0429c9a0) - [XPCOM] Crash safely when TArray replacements are OOB. (37d0ffa17) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Evidently yes. There is an unsolved thread at another forum by a Vista user who followed a YouTube video by @i430VX to get Windows Update to work. It sounds like it works for everything he wants except updates for Office 2010 SP2: https://www.vistax64.com/threads/svchost-exe-using-100-of-cpu-after-installing-ms-office-2010-sp2-update.305905/

Thank you so much for that! I've actually had Otter Browser installed for years, and I've always kept it up to date, although I never actually use it! It never occurred to me to even try it with the LNER site, but as you say, it works (almost)! It's not quite right, I can't get rid of the cookie warnings for instance, but it's not the horrible mess that it is on 360Chrome. It didn't surprise me that it had failed on Firefox 52.9 ESR, as more and more sites are starting to have problems on that, but not working on 360Chrome 13.5 was a big surprise, and quite worrying! I guess it's a JavaScript problem, but I'm not expert enough on site coding to diagnose that.

Hi @Dave-H, on Windows XP you can open the site https://www.lner.co.uk/ in Otter Browser. As far as I can see, it seems to work in this QT-based browser. Tested version: Otter Browser weekly420. Link: https://sourceforge.net/projects/otter-browser/files/otter-browser-weekly420/otter-browser-win32-weekly420-xp.zip/download Latest version compatible with Windows XP: 1.0.0.3 Link: https://sourceforge.net/projects/otter-browser/files/otter-browser-1.0.03/otter-browser-win32-1.0.03-xp.zip/download Cheers, AstroSkipper

No, rest assured, the WPA (or whatever it is called) compares a sort of inventory of the connected hardware at activation time with the current one, the list and then cast "votes", what hardware pieces are used is known/documented, JFYI: http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.php See also: https://msfn.org/board/topic/161662-nic-and-wpa-votes/ jaclaz

Thanks for the information @jaclaz. All hardware used here is manufactured 2010 and older, fortunately never came across anything that couldn't be reset via battery. Windows XP Media Centers seem 2005-ish. Not sure why laptop was mentioned twice as the original post makes no mention of hardware, laptop or otherwise. They came as desktops and mini-towers too. Personal preference is to open up newly acquired used hardware anyway, before significant runtime, to ensure proper fan operation, airflow, etc. Easy enough to remove the CMOS battery then or search for a motherboard jumper. Though laptops are harder to dismantle, it's usually worth refurbishing them properly. Only thing, does Windows XP squak when a CMOS battery is replaced (ie. trigger hardware change or product re-activation). Hope not, wouldn't think so. Good luck @frank woolf, should be straightforward, quick hardware research. Nice, beefier than regular Windows XP hardware, could be a great system. https://web.archive.org/web/20071023062707/http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/using/setup/default.mspx

I am waiting for this fix so that I can test many sites in my country. I want XP to live forever.

I don't really know about that, but I know that the custom download engine is the same version in all browsers. I guess you can add the respective files and see what happens. You may want to try these extensions or an equivalent one. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/memory-saver/dhnagkedjknpmhmdoaggchdefbmbeabk https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/auto-tab-discard/jhnleheckmknfcgijgkadoemagpecfol Cheers.

So .. I did watch the vid and we're watching an upgrade to this...? Hmmm ... I'd have to hear (read) more from the vets here before I'd ever take that chance on my legit and activated XPSp3.

Good news on that front: I got 360EE v13 working again. Turns out I need to "Run as Administrator" on Win 7 - no idea why. I've never needed to run a browser as "Administrator" before.... Edit: Now that I think about it, I think I know why. I foolishly put the 360EE folder under the "Program Files (x86)" directory, and 360EE modifies some files there. That works fine in XP but requires administrator privileges on Win 7. Oops! Anyhow, the troublesome site https://cw33.com/morning-in-america/ doesn't load correctly there either! I'm starting to think the Web page itself is broken, not a problem with older browsers. Sorry for the false alarm, everyone....

And one thing is totally clear. Without the efforts and support of @roytam1, @feodor2, @NotHereToPlayGames, @Humming Owl and so on, Windows XP would have been died years ago. Therefore, thanks to you all for your great work , and keep Windows XP alive as long as possible! Kind regards, AstroSkipper +

Funny to look back a scant 6 months and see folks talking about Win 11 as vaporware. Yeah, it's here. With a vengeance. And it's harder to use than ever. Since when did losing occasional keystrokes and positioning the mouse to within less than 1.0 pixels to be able to grab an edge or corner make a system more professional or easier to use? Context menus 2.0 - what an improvement! Hey, I really didn't want to quickly be able to get to all those entries in there without another mouse click anyway! Oh wait, they're trying to wean us off Windows. I forgot. -Noel

Dunno how old is this one. Found on the internet: