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I have a question regarding me getting Microsoft Edge 87 to work. However, I'm getting this constant error that says the following: "The procedure entry point SspiEncodeAuthIdentityAsStrings could not be located in the dynamic link library secur32.dll". I've been trying to redirect it without any progress. So I think that secur32.dll needs to be patched. The screenshot of the error has been provided. Is it possible that you could assist me through this? P.S. The extended kernel has been installed. And i'm working with @WinNeptune on this project. You just install it on a secondary machine. Locate it in the program files and you're done

I thought I replied to another person . Anyways , I think it is wise to have at least two PCs , for gaming and the internet . And Vista easily supports everything related to the internet, now including modern browsers , btw VMvare 10.x is the last good version , ask win32. Photoshop 2014 is the last good too.

Hi Guys! When I mean official I mean I am making it official that I think it is the worst ever... While I can understand that Microsoft want a OS that works on all platforms - they fail to recognise the genuine complaints of long term users! Computers are getting more powerful every day, screens are getting larger and more advanced. and yet we are given a OS that is basically designed for a telephone screen. What happened to nice gradient colours etc? It is so **** boring? Your general users do not care what improvements are made to the engine...they want it to look and feel good as well! A telephone is a telephone in my opinion and I want an OS that looks good on the ever increasing sizes of desktop screens! The start menu is a mess! Once again nothing is logical about the setup of things.... If this is the best they can come up with I will keep one computer as Windows for my customers and then the others as Linux.

My Name is Areba and I am 26 years old a student of arts and Fashion hope we will spend a good time here.

Well said!!! And thumbs down to Win10

I don't understand how this is useful at all. Windows 10 used all 4 out of 4 gigs of RAM on my laptop when I had Win10 on it, on idling mind you.

Yep , that's me ! I'm on RTM.

No, not at all, which shows how there is more "ugh" than "oomph" in Windows 10 (hence my username matches with how I feel about Windows 10!!). I can't even switch b/w standard and scientific modes! I feel more or less the same!! My Dell Inspiron 15 3567 came with a bloated Windows 10 Home which, even after uninstalling OEM bloat, was slow! But, IMO, LTSC only makes Windows 10 installs half-usable. For example, on a 5400rpm HDD, Firefox used to take 10 seconds to open up on Win10 compared to almost instantly on 8.1 and 3-4 seconds on Win7. Word, Excel etc. took about a minute to open up completely on Windows 10 compared to almost 5-6 seconds on both Windows 7 and 8.1.

I don't know about the multiplayer , so can't comment on that , but single player works. The latest patch is just so not needed . Read all the negative reviews. Banned modding , etc. https://www.reddit.com/r/GrandTheftAutoV/comments/6hgeqh/gta_5s_recent_reviews_have_now_hit_mostly_negative/

Ha ha ha , I've never installed them . Zero. None. I even know there is a guy here , who still runs RTM , so ?

What do you mean? Vista still is receiving security patches till 2023. I use Vista only because Windows 10 is crap and Vista is awesome. If Windows 10 was good, then I'd be using it on all of my PC's. In fact, all the PC's in the house used to run Windows 10, but none of them still do. I have all of MS products that I need. MS lost a loyalist customer!!

Rightly said!!! You don't have to have the security updates unless you know what you're doing. They are only supplements to a smart Brain.exe. So, all legacy Windows versions are still usable at least for the next 3 years.

Almost every type of malware you can get is from human error or from being an administrator. By having common sense and requiring yourself to enter in an administrator's password to run an application, you are almost unpenetrable, except for the 0days and malware that litterally can break through those barriers.

You don't need security updates to stay secure. Just do not download random s*** from the internet. Also having secondary laptop for internet banking is not a bad idea. Windows Vista/7/8 will be usable as long as software do support them.. (extended kernel is saving vista right now) and btw vista is getting server 2008 esu security patches I guess if you're the president of the usa then don't use windows xp?

Back in the day my better half and i were motorcycle safety instructors. Since childhood i've owned and ridden bikes from all the major Japanese brands and can't say one is any better than the other. Bikes owned in childhood were, for example, 50cc Honda minibike and XR100 Honda dirt bike. Motorcycles owned in adulthood include Kawasaki Ninja 600, Kawasaki Ninja 750, Suzuki GSXR 1100 and a Suzuki DR650. They were all very reliable. The DR650 was my favourite, dual purpose 'thumper' engine, but sitting upright wasn't more comfortable. At highway speeds, anything more than ~80 km/hr, the upright position and lack of windscreen made for an unpleasant and tiring ride. The sportbike allowed alternating between semi-upright and laying down on the tank but is harder on the wrists. So maybe depends on how much future highway riding vs slow, short trip city riding. I'm older now but aside from that i would not ride a motorcycle on the streets anymore. Where i live car drivers have gone crazy last 20 years, busier roads and lots more tailgating, speeding, hit and run accidents. Not worth losing your life or being permanently injured for a bit of fun - video games are safer :) The bikes you are looking at are relatively small displacement so your physical stature shouldn't be a big issue. If, however, you can't keep both feet flat on the ground while sitting on the bike stationary then look for something else. Dual purpose motorcycles typically have a taller seat height, primarily off-road suspension travel, so if you can't pass the sit/feet flat test don't bother. Also IMHO if you don't have the physical strength to pick up the bike if it's laying on the ground, you're over your head. Again only IMHO, not everyone has the aptitude to ride and many 'bikers' should stick with four wheels. This forum isn't the best place to ask for this advice. It's unclear how much riding experience you have. If you haven't already, take a motorcycle safety course that offers practical training before making a decision. Here most courses provide bikes for learning. Then you will know better if getting a motorcycle is still what you want.

I'm not sure "below" will satisfy fully your requirements, but I'm tossing it in regardless, for the benefit of others... 1. Load chrome://net-export/ 2. Click the Start Logging to Disk button, choose where to save the chrome-net-export-log.json file. 3. Leave the previous tab open, then proceed to use the browser as you'd normally do... 4. After a period of time, return to that tab and stop network logging (depending on logging duration, the .json file may get quite big...) 5, Navigate to https://netlog-viewer.appspot.com/ , load the chrome-net-export-log.json file. 6. Navigate to the DNS tab: https://netlog-viewer.appspot.com/#dns Records of DNS queries are displayed; the only one (mildly) suspicious for me was: puv.tt.browser.360.cn => 101.198.192.36 All the rest were due to pages loaded in tabs and/or extensions enabled... (360EEv12, build 1592, patched... )

Thanks All you for such a warm hands.

1. You have Google Chrome and Opera (which, as you all know, are Chromium forks) as alternatives to Edge which work with the extended kernel , and also, Edge will work on Vista in some time as win32 is working on adding more functions to the extended kernel files which will allow Edge to function. 2. Discord: There's Ripcord which is a Discord client that works even with vanilla Vista. 3. Skype: I use Skype on my secondary Windows 8.1 computer now and I'm thinking of dualbooting Windows Vista with 8.0 Pro x64 on my main laptop to use Skype. But if Skype becomes open-source (I don't know whether it is), I will try working on backporting it to Windows 2000, XP and Vista. 4. Avast: Avast is still supporting Vista, though no new feature updates for Vista (or older) are being released, which, IMO, is not a big deal. 5. Office 2019: It's ugly, slow and bloated (as @WinClient5270 rightly said somewhere), or, in other words, crap. I still use Office 2010 on all my computers and when it becomes completely obsolete, I'll move on to Google Suite/Zoho Suite (both are online services) or LibreOffice. 6. ShareX: It works with .net FW 4.7.2 which can be installed on Vista through @WinFX's method. 7. Teamviewer: Why do you need it when you have AnyDesk, which supports XP through 10? Rest of the programs, I don't know about them.

Vista is actually good for activity online as its current market share is very low, thus making it a 95% unlikely target for internet hijacks/exploits. And with the extended kernel and the gift of @win32 to the Vista community, this state has gotten a lot better, as Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Waterfox etc.etc., which are major browsers now run on Vista just like how they run on 7. My dad actually uses my main Vista laptop for (carefully monitored) online banking approx. once every week. And I have created a separate standard account only for him and mom to use the computer on.

To minimise telemetry, use Windows 7 or 8.x. To avoid telemetry, use Windows Vista, XP or 2K (if all your software/hardware supports it), which have almost ZERO telemetry. To make Windows 10 look like 7 (or 8.x, Vista or XP), it's not 100% possible, and because of not being 100% possible, the UI, even with tweaks through Open Shell, 7++ TT, etc.etc. looks dirty and fragmented. So move to 8.x and tweak the UI or move to 7 to experience the beauty of the native UI or, even better, use Vista (whose Aero IMO is better than 7's) (then again, if the hardware and software you have/need supports it).

Are you sure ? Works , definitely . Just don't use the latest launcher .

To minimize telemetry, try Vista. To avoid telemetry, try Vista. To make Win 10 or even 8.1 look like 7, try Vista.

From Belgium, hello @Areba21 and welcome to MSFN! I wish you enjoy the forums! Have a nice day. hpwamr

Thank you very much !!! It really helped me with installing extensions on Vista !!! Couldn't find such short and sweet explanation anywhere !

Yes, I do understand, but in my experience of using Windows 10 for around 3 years, it was horrible to me (and I ran Windows 10 on a 5400rpm HDD, which made it slow, therefore explaining its lack of optimisation for HDD's, as opposed to Windows 8.x, which is very fast even on a 5400rpm HDD). I know about dark themes, night mode etc.etc., but I have a Windows Vista Business installation on my main laptop that has been customised to include night mode (through f.lux). Also, I know that Open Shell exists to fix the horrible UI, but third party themes are also needed to correct the Metro UI abomination, and Windows 10 keeps breaking themes with every single update, so, thumbs down from me again.

Maybe write them on their forum wall ? Just a couple of questions , first is why they did it, second how to revert it back ?

@win32 has the december update been delayed? haven't heard about it since november i believe

this might not work the first try.. mine worked the 4th time make sure you have these updates first: https://mega.nz/file/OwggEIAQ#MqNKI0OqeFZui9Ou8oYHraD1djUGZFH07rt2Bi5t5SM

Well that's true but this "patch" makes it work again: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/restore-windows-update-for-vista.82336/ I don't know if windows update will find every update it used to find let's say 3 years ago... I think a few of them got deleted after the windows update SHA-1 based endpoints got discontinued (I hope I'm wrong) in aug 2020 I still recommend using dism++ and what @greenhillmaniac provided here:

agreed , my laptop originally came with windows 10 , but had to uninstall 2 months later as i was getting severe headaches using it , same effect of using 3d goggles

Mostly using this config: -Intel Xeon X5670 2.93 GHz 6C/12T -12 GB DDR3-1333 -NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800 (which is like a GTX 260; I think Santa will bring something that brings me into the DX11 age ) -1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (a WD Purple IIRC) -500 GB 5400 rpm Seagate HDD I remember when Vista came out and always wanted to use it, but only got to use it 12 years after release. And now look at me. Since I first heard about kernel extensions, I always wanted to make some, though my attempts were always unsuccessful. At one point towards the end of 2019, I was experimenting with changing new win7+ functions to older ones present on Vista, specifically for Waterfox Classic. I got the UI to load but it would crash immediately. Then I learned more and more about the process and decided to choose an OS where a kernel extension effort would: -not overlap with existing ones -be plausible -and also be workable on my bare metal So I chose Windows Vista! Vista takes about 40 seconds to boot for me, compared to about 25 seconds for XP x64 and 7 x64 on my main workstation with a 7200 rpm HDD. While the boot process is quite uniform for me on XP and 7, the sequence can be quite erratic on Vista, with the periods of ntoskrnl-stored startup screen and blank screen with cursor (pre-orb animation) seemingly varying in length per boot (sometimes my monitor gives me a no signal message post startup-screen; other times it doesn't). Perhaps fragmentation is a factor (I have Vista follow the standard weekly defrag schedule), but I also see a possibility that this occurrence of boot time variance to whatever is responsible for causing usermode (don't believe I have seen kernelmode components fail to load) library/executable load failure on Haswell and up. This in itself is a major Achilles heel of the operating system and needs to be resolved somehow if I were to successfully create kernelmode extensions that allow hardware typically accompanying recent CPUs to fully function. X58 is period correct for Vista and my machine does work very well with it. Just wondering; do you have indexing and SuperFetch enabled? That's responsible for most of it, and both should definitely be disabled on an SSD. I had noticed that my disk I/O indicator light was on constantly for awhile; Process Hacker said it was a low-priority read operation by a system process on a Vista ISO I had recently used in a VM. After disabling SuperFetch, that stopped. It's not going to be of much use if it's going to be for something used so rarely. The SuperFetch algorithm must have prioritized it so highly because of its size and recent usage.

My specs: Intel i5 8250U 8GB RAM 250GB SSD Windows Vista Home Premium x64 (German) I started using Vista in 2008, after our XP PC refused to start. Back then, I did not know that it was a driver error which led to the crash and not a hardware error (Nowadays I am the PC specialist in our family lol), so we bought a new PC. I cant remeber the processor but I know it had 2GB RAM and ran Business x32. Vista was very nice, we used it till 2013, before we upgraded to Windows 7. I remember that Vista did not support IE10/11 and Office 2013, which were the two major problems with it. We didnt use Windows 7 for a long time (I think only till 2014). In 2015 we upgraded to Windows 8.1, which was very fast in comparison to any other OS I had used before. When Windows 10 came out, our PC couldnt handle, so we made a fresh Clean Install of 8.1 and even nowadays it still runs veryy fine (we upgraded the RAM to 4GB)

I use Vista on my Dell latitude e6330 with these specs: Intel Core I5-3340M 8gb ram 480gb ssd from corsair Intel hd graphics I use vista just because of nostalgia. I used it as my main os since 2008-2013. Before I start with my complaints I really need to clarify, that I love Vista so much, but there are things that are just straight up bad. Vista’s disk trashing is first and the most annoying thing on the planet. Vista seems to access the disk and make unnecessary i/o operations. I have no idea what is it doing (Windows Update is turned off as well system protection, background programs). Next annoying thing is delay after boot up. After welcome screen, I have to wait another 30-40 seconds on ssd mind you, just so I can open web browser. In that 30-40 second time window, Disk is not being accessed nor any program is doing anything. I have installed vista countless times and this is an issue. And finally fps in direct x 9/11. Windows 7/8.1 are always better in gaming by around 10%. Yeah that is probably lack of optimization for Vista, but still it is an issue. Ram usage on vista is higher on clean install than on 8.1. I’m surprised that windows 7/8.1 were slower on your pc. Almost every computer I’ve tried was just as fast or faster in some instances on newer os. Like I said in the beginning, I love Vista, I will still use it and enjoy it, but it can be better.

No. Windows 10 is a mess. Version 1809 is just the tip of the crapberg.

Yes, using 10 you can say now you have a new desktophone.