Supermium

[D.Draker]

On 1/3/2025 at 9:09 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Personally, I never (and advise others [at least the savvy ones that become members of such sites as MSFN] to also never) install any extension without looking through their javascript files &/or monitoring your DNS connections after installing!

Later on, they became more "clever" to not openly add links to their pages in their scripts by using plain text, and now use Chrome's inbuilt Google Analytics, which is invoked via rather sophisticated and/or hidden scripts.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

4 hours ago, j7n said:

With the autoplay disabling script, it's not sometimes possible to start playback when I want to. If I click on a direct link to a media file, I need to click on the black background and not the play button, which does nothing.

I had the same experience with one of the disable autoplay scripts but forget which one it was, to be honest.  The two previously cited scripts attempt to target "all" web sites, not just YouTube.

For me, I pause and restart YouTube with the keyboard shortcut "k" and it would not start replaying when using one of those scripts, maybe even with both, I forget at the moment.

This is the stop autoplay script that I am currently using and it seems to be working fine for me  --  https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/372780-stop-youtube-autoplay/code

Please report if this one also works for you.  I'm always looking for better YouTube experience, lol.  Not having autoplay at page load is one of those improvements that never dawned on me until you brought it up.  

Note that this one only targets YouTube and does not attempt to stop autoplay on "all" web sites.  That limitation also makes this one much easier to see what it does and much much smaller of a script.

It literally just forces a pause "continuously" every 200ms after loading a YouTube page.  And unloads itself whenever the user pressses any mouse button or keyboard key to interact with the YouTube page.

I have noticed a very tiny number of YouTube videos where there is audio within the first 200ms of the video and so you might occasionally hear a tiny blip of audio before the script performs its pause.

The 200 could always be reduced to a smaller number if this becomes too frequent, but for the most part 200 seems just fine.  Generally, audio that quickly into a video is just a very bad practice on the video itself, no "fade in" time.

 

Edited January 4 by NotHereToPlayGames

[j7n]

Advertisements often start with a sound right away. If the website doesn't know that playback has been disabled, it starts with an advertisement video, which then must be watched for 5 seconds, rather than the static advertisement which expires by itself.

Unproduced, live videos may also start with a sound.

The delay seems to be variable depending on how loaded the processor is. When the page is first opened, it has to churn through a lot of stuff.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

8 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/372780-stop-youtube-autoplay/code

So did you try this script?

[NotHereToPlayGames]

14 minutes ago, j7n said:

rather than the static advertisement which expires by itself.

I do not get video ads or static ads.  And I'm not too keen on disabling my ad-blockers just to seek a solution.

My main point is that all of these methods can be *combined* into a script that does what you are wanting it to do.

ie, if one of the previous scripts is what you prefer, but you want to be able to pause then restart, then simply add the mouse/keyboard detection from the third script to be included in whichever of the first two scripts that you prefer to use.

[j7n]

What do you use to block youtube ads in Supermium? Does it need updating often?

[UCyborg]

I don't bother with stock YouTube at all ever since I knew about Project VORAPIS. There are no ads in videos out of the box, no content blocker needed, the rest seem to be disableable through a couple of checkboxes.

Sponsor segments are more annoying, but I don't watch a lot of stuff on YouTube anyway, so whatever...

Not certain about autoplay, there's WATCH_PLAYER_NO_AUTOPLAY checkbox, not sure if it works under all circumstances or at all.

Edit: Oh, there's another AD_ITEM further down... Probably the "renderer" items are most prominent.

Edited January 4 by UCyborg

[UCyborg]

Otherwise, stock YouTube or the rest of the web, always used uBlock Origin extension.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

28 minutes ago, j7n said:

What do you use to block youtube ads in Supermium? Does it need updating often?

I do not use Supermium (I use Official Ungoogled Chromium v122 in conjuction with the PortableApps Portable Chrome loader).  I personally have zero interest in anything based on Chrome v126 or higher!  (Time may change that...  eventually...)

Using Supermium or not is irrelevant to the question, everything that I use for my YouTube experience can be used in Supermium.

I've actually flip-flopped on YouTube.  Six months or so ago, I dang near NEVER used it!  Nowadays, I use it DAILY and even stopped paying for Netflix and Hulu in favor of YouTube without any advertisements!

 Project VORAPIS is "good"...  But not great!  It will wholly and fully depend on your own use/expectations/wish-list.  It does not work "for me", but it may work "for you".  Only you can answer that.  

 

For starters, one must realize that it isn't all about number of chrome.exe processes.  YouTube with no extensions will run a higher CPU than YouTube with FOUR OR FIVE extensions and SLIGHTLY higher RAM consumption.

For YouTube ads, I use uBlock Origin v1.59.0 (modified, I defuse the whole "blocked since install", "blocked on this page", et cetera as I see them as "usage tracking telemetry" that serves no purpose for functionality [and is inaccurate compared to other measurements]).

 

But my YouTube experience relies on much MUCH more than just blocking ads.

Tampermonkey v4.13 (modified to prevent Google Analytics telemetry, no "thanks for installing/uninstalling" auto-visits, cosmetic changes, et cetera) is used to set default preferences for Closed Captions, Annotations, Stable Volume Ambient Mode, home page view, what codecs are allowed, disable mouseover inline play, remove "shorts" as I am not interested in the general "lack of intelligence" of users that submit "shorts", disable "most replayed" graph as what OTHER people like to replay has no bearing whatsoever on what I may or may not replay, add autoplay button for playlists, et cetera.

Stylus extension (modified) to add my own userstyles.

Enhancer for YouTube extension (modified) for selecting playback quality on initial load versus entering full screen mode, for the popup player to watch the video while scrolling the list of suggested videos, for the "loop mode" control.

Ears Audio Toolkit extension (modified) for equalizer effects (not limited to YouTube).

Audio Compressor extension (modified) to alter dynamic range of audio (not limited to YouTube).

PiP Floating Player extension (modified) to be able to minimize video as an always-on-top resizable player with its own player controls (not limited to YouTube, very useful for watching YouTube or news at work).

Fullscreen Videos extension (modified) for NOT using Chrome's "full screen" mode, but using a "windowed" full screen where the video uses the entire browser window but maintains the Operating System's taskbar and the browsers tab/address/title bars.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

On 12/30/2024 at 11:06 AM, UCyborg said:

Each extension is its own process in Chromium.

Not quite that simple.  I run 15 extensions and only have 12/13 processes running.

I don't know the exact "formula", so to speak.  But I know my Chromium will run eight (or is it four?) processes when I have NO EXTENSIONS installed.

And I've had times where I'm testing extension after extension after extension after extension to look for one I want to keep and may have FORTY extensions installed but have NOWHERE NEAR forty processes running.

 

Update:  For me, zero extensions equals 5/6 processes.  So adding FIFTEEN extensions only "added" 7/8 processes.

Edited January 4 by NotHereToPlayGames

[VistaLover]

5 hours ago, j7n said:

Does it need updating often?

... Obviously NOT the preferred practice among many here, but if you install the extension directly from the CWS and have not opted for Supermium's "Ungoogled" mode (or blocked extensions-update-check via a cmdline flag: " --disable-background-networking"), the extension will auto-update if a compatible newer version has been released since - to speed this up yourself, you can go to "chrome://extensions/", enable Developer Mode and click the "Update" button; I realise this forum is frequented mostly by haters of "auto-everything"  , just stating the default Supermium behaviour for the rest of the members  ... 

[Dave-H]

On 1/3/2025 at 9:57 PM, VistaLover said:

Tampermonkey once used to be open-source, but at one point (summer of 2018) it turned into closed source  ; if you'd care to read the fine prints, under 

https://www.tampermonkey.net/privacy.php

, you'd find: 

Nothing to be overwhelmed about (they note it can be "user-disabled"), but "home-phoning" it is (the default setting for "Average Joe") ... Besides, TM were very eager to quickly drop support for FxESR-52.9.0 (XP+Vista EoS) and early versions of Google Chrome, so I couldn't even use it on roytam1's Serpent (52|55) forks  ; likewise, on early versions of the 360EE Chinese forks...

As of now, my default choice for a (WebExtension) userscript manager is the open-source Violentmonkey extension: 

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/violentmonkey/jinjaccalgkegednnccohejagnlnfdag

They're no longer supporting Fx52esr, but they're still supporting Chromium down to v61  (extension still being at MV2  ); latest stable (2.29.0) and even BETA (2.29.1) versions work fine in my Supermium profiles  ; I feel most don't give it a chance because TM was/is more "hyped"  ...

Off-topic, but I can't get violentmonkey to work in 360Chrome 13.5.
It apparently installs fine, but does not actually work.
The installed scripts do nothing.

[Sampei.Nihira]

7 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Not quite that simple.  I run 15 extensions and only have 12/13 processes running.

I don't know the exact "formula", so to speak.  But I know my Chromium will run eight (or is it four?) processes when I have NO EXTENSIONS installed.

And I've had times where I'm testing extension after extension after extension after extension to look for one I want to keep and may have FORTY extensions installed but have NOWHERE NEAR forty processes running.

 

Update:  For me, zero extensions equals 5/6 processes.  So adding FIFTEEN extensions only "added" 7/8 processes.

The Task Manager is often inaccurate.
Process Explorer should be used to check the processes running at a given instant of time:

P.S.

The processes in the image with only uBlock Origin.

Edited January 5 by Sampei.Nihira

[we3fan]

On 1/4/2025 at 7:47 PM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Audio Compressor extension (modified) to alter dynamic range of audio (not limited to YouTube).

Happy New Year everyone!

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/audio-compressor/daomidlfpcfjchpalpjogmnhabkekbnn
Hi ArcticFoxie, is it this one?

[NotHereToPlayGames]

54 minutes ago, we3fan said:

Happy New Year everyone!

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/audio-compressor/daomidlfpcfjchpalpjogmnhabkekbnn
Hi ArcticFoxie, is it this one?

Yep, that's the one.  I keep it at the HIGH preset ALL OF THE TIME.  I'm too old to have to turn up the volume to hear the normal scenes then get BLASTED TO H#LL with LOUD VOLUMES during action scenes.