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4 hours ago, 66cats said:

Supermium source, and [at least] the binary of that .dll is, and always was, publicly available. Not sure how not publishing the source would affect people who wanted to support win32/needed an installer.

Please make sure to take a couple of seconds to perform a simple search before posting.

C++ source code file extension is .cc and .cpp, not ".bin", "binary", etc.

FAQ for newbies.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1545080/c-code-file-extension-what-is-the-difference-between-cc-and-cpp

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8 minutes ago, Saxon said:

Someone already tried --max-connections-per-host=4 on weak hardware with Supermium?

I use the flag --max-connections-per-host=15 on my very old and weak hardware, however, with Thorium under Windows XP. So far, it works great. :P

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4 hours ago, 66cats said:

Probably the same people who started spreading rumors that Linux is open source.

How does that invalidate the open-source components? There are distros out there that do not include binary blobs. Supermium's source code is here, it simply depends on closed-source Win7+ API emulator.

Apparently Windows XP is so bad they have to emulate Windows 7+ (APIs) to make it run on XP. :buehehe: And even then it's far cry from the old XP compatible Chrome versions, which were higher quality releases with none of the bugs or deficiencies you see these days.

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4 hours ago, UCyborg said:

Apparently Windows XP is so bad they have to emulate Windows 7+ (APIs) to make it run on XP. :buehehe:

More likely to reduce the amount of work they would've to do each time the new version is released. I mean, no need to constantly cut out the unneeded code parts from chromium itself. Basically, the file consists of wisely stubbed/redirected APIs. (a compliment to win32)

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, UCyborg said:

it simply depends on closed-source Win7+ API emulator.

Nevertheless, it's still close source. I can tell what to try for those willing to disassemble it, but I shan't give precise instructions, I respect win32's choice to make it close source. 

A small hint. JetBrain's free .NET Decompiler and Assembly Browser, and off you go, it might help those willing to dig.

 
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8 hours ago, D.Draker said:
10 hours ago, 66cats said:

Supermium source, and [at least] the binary of that .dll is, and always was, publicly available. Not sure how not publishing the source would affect people who wanted to support win32/needed an installer.

Please make sure to take a couple of seconds to perform a simple search before posting.

Which part of the quoted text do you disagree with? Be concise. 

I concede that, like Linux, Supermium contains closed source code. If you feel this makes those projects proprietary, i got nothing.

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6 hours ago, UCyborg said:

How does that invalidate the open-source components?

The same logic that makes Supermium closed source (if any part of the project is not open source, it's not open source) should make Linux closed source (its kernel includes [proprietary] binary blobs).

 

6 hours ago, UCyborg said:

There are distros out there that do not include binary blobs.

I guess those are the only open source Linux distros :)  OTOH, most distros (including all the popular ones, the ones where WiFi & most HW works, ones using the standard, unmodded linux kernel) are proprietary. At least by that logic :\

 

6 hours ago, UCyborg said:

Apparently Windows XP is so bad they have to emulate Windows 7+ (APIs) to make it run on XP. :buehehe:

Something tells me reliance on leaked/reversed MS code is the reason no source has been published for that .dll. Again, could be dead wrong.

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1 hour ago, dmiranda said:

Binaries are back, source issue is clarified: IDA-RE's dll is also closed source.

Thanks.

Bottom line - the conspiracy theory that somebody shut down somebody else's project is just that, a conspiracy theory.

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20 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

When you already clicked, but nothing happened and the button became inaccessible

... Well yes, sadly, this has also happened to me, especially when using Serpent 52 to post (only very rarely happens when using KafanMiniBrowser :P )

22 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

you unfortunately have to load the page again and click the button again.

... Well, after reloading the page (and praying during the page reload that whatever you've already written won't be lost :( ), do NOT immediately re-click the "Submit" button; first open in a new tab the MSFN thread you're posting to and inquire whether your post has indeed been uploaded, despite the browser hang; once you verify this is not the case, only then do click the "Submit" button anew :P ; FWIW, I had similar issues when using St52 to post comments on GitHub, but now, since MS :realmad: made GH almost unusable in UXP-based browsers, I use KMB for GH (where that issue almost never manifests itself) ...

Kind regards.

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@66cats
IDK, call it a hybrid then. :P Yeah, I tried Debian ISO once on my laptop, the one ISO as it was meant to be, so no proprietary blobs. Got warning right away that firmware should be downloaded for Wi-Fi adapter, so didn't get anywhere.

I'm mostly in "whatever, as long as it works" camp today. Source code availability is nice, but eh... Used to be more of a tinkerer, but these days, screw it. It's all such nonsense in the grand scheme of things, systemd vs non-systemd, PulseAudio or no PulseAudio, Blink vs Gecko, XUL vs WebExt etc etc. It's all f***in' politics and I hate politics, I just want a working computer. Is that too much to ask?? Well, I guess got it more or less so not much to complain about from my side.

Regarding this forum post editor, it's been months since it last glitched out on me, but when it did, and that must have been couple forum software updates ago, you would click Submit Reply and it seemed it didn't do anything, even though it actually did so if you clicked the button again and refresh the page, you realized you just double posted.

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21 minutes ago, UCyborg said:

you would click Submit Reply and it seemed it didn't do anything

Agreed.

The "Unread Content" and "Mark site read" 'buttons' seem to glitch on occasion also.  Just a very lengthy time delay that most of us don't "wait for" because it usually doesn't take that long.

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3 minutes ago, UCyborg said:

It's all f***in' politics and I hate politics, I just want a working computer.

Same here.

27 minutes ago, UCyborg said:

click Submit Reply and it seemed it didn't do anything,

Might have something to do with @AstroSkipper's single-core rig, happens to me all the time posting from a Coppermine PIII (on any forum). 

BTW, IDA-RE's dll does seem to speed up Thorium/Supermium (launching for the first time, and at least as far as Speedometer 2 is concerned). Curious factoids: it's now called "chrome-xp-api-adapter.dll" instead of "progwrp.dll" (i renamed it), and it's 24KB vs. 131KB of the original.

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1 hour ago, VistaLover said:
3 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

When you already clicked, but nothing happened and the button became inaccessible

... Well yes, sadly, this has also happened to me, especially when using Serpent 52 to post (only very rarely happens when using KafanMiniBrowser :P )

3 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

you unfortunately have to load the page again and click the button again.

... Well, after reloading the page (and praying during the page reload that whatever you've already written won't be lost :( ), do NOT immediately re-click the "Submit" button; first open in a new tab the MSFN thread you're posting to and inquire whether your post has indeed been uploaded, despite the browser hang; once you verify this is not the case, only then do click the "Submit" button anew :P ; FWIW, I had similar issues when using St52 to post comments on GitHub, but now, since MS :realmad: made GH almost unusable in UXP-based browsers, I use KMB for GH (where that issue almost never manifests itself) ...

And the very best is that now both posts have disappeared completely. :realmad: Who has deleted them? :dubbio:I simply replied to a post addressed to me. And above all, why both? :dubbio: What's going on here? :crazy:

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