My Browser Builds (Part 4)

[dmiranda]

@roytam1, I took a while (one week!) to test your last build. I really like it. I have no idea why this may be (other than because I've been using one or two of your builds daily since 2016-2018 or so), but I like this latest version, very much. However, I have noticed that visiting linkedin or gmail, I get a rather surprising bug. 

I can access them better now than with the last remains of chrome in XP. But page down (or something, I'm not yet really sure) results in a recurrent keyboard-tab command link by link in the page, then up and then all over again, until pressing escape. I don't yet know if that is just me (like freak in scanner darkly), or not. 

PS: It is either a bug or that the gang of 4 or 5 experts on everything they've never tried before has found mine hiding hole. I've got an stify already.

 

Edited August 17, 2023 by dmiranda

[RamonUn]

It seems Google is re-considering adding JPEG-XL support in Chromium

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1451807

On this point at least we are a step forward.

[Reino]

21 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

Hello @Reino! Allow the website userstyles.org completely in eMatrix! Then, check if you have done that correctly:

For google.com, I use @VistaLover's SSUAO Mozilla/5.0 (%OS_SLICE% rv:65.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/65.0.

I have, as you can see in my screenshot. Other stuff like facebook and pinterest are completely irrelevant.

As for the useragent...

On 8/16/2023 at 2:10 AM, VistaLover said:

general.useragent.override.userstyles.org;Chrome

...only this works for me to render the website at all. Changing (or creating) the useragent for google.com doesn't do anything for me with regards to userstyles.org, so I don't understand how it does for you.

On 8/16/2023 at 2:15 AM, AstroSkipper said:

Now, I have also installed the extension Stylem and installed the following CSS style via copy and save from userstyles.org: https://userstyles.org/styles/180927/disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely 
This actually stops any CSS animation on the site above and brings my processor back to normal. 

How? Installing "https://userstyles.org/styles/180927/disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely", "https://userstyles.org/styles/180927/disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely.css" with Stylem's "Install from URLs..."-button doesn't work and the website itself complains I'm not using Chrome. @VistaLover already mentioned this. So how did you accomplish this?

[AstroSkipper]

2 hours ago, Reino said:

.How? Installing "https://userstyles.org/styles/180927/disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely", "https://userstyles.org/styles/180927/disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely.css" with Stylem's "Install from URLs..."-button doesn't work and the website itself complains I'm not using Chrome. @VistaLover already mentioned this. So how did you accomplish this?

As I already mentioned, you have to do this via copy and save the CSS code from the stylesheet site such as https://userstyles.org/styles/180927/disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely.css. Scroll down to the bottom of this site, click onto "Show code", copy it, create in Stylem an empty stylesheet and insert the copied code. Then save it by giving the original name provided on this site. That's all.  BTW, you can create such a stylesheet globally or for a specific website.

Edited August 17, 2023 by AstroSkipper
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[AstroSkipper]

1 hour ago, AstroSkipper said:

As I already mentioned, you have to do this via copy and save the CSS code from the stylesheet site such as https://userstyles.org/styles/180927/disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely.css. Scroll down to the bottom of this site, click onto "Show code", copy it, create in Stylem an empty stylesheet and insert the copied code. Then save it by giving the original name provided on this site. That's all.  BTW, you can create such a stylesheet globally or for a specific website.

And for all who would like to import or export stylesheets I recommend to install additionally the extension Stylish-Custom https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/stylish-custom/.  It adds further functionality to Stylem or Stylish such as an import/export function. 

Edited August 17, 2023 by AstroSkipper

[Reino]

3 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

As I already mentioned, you have to do this via copy and save the CSS code from the stylesheet site such as https://userstyles.org/styles/180927/disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely.css. Scroll down to the bottom of this site, click onto "Show code", copy it, create in Stylem an empty stylesheet and insert the copied code.

Ok. Done that. It wasn't obvious to me from your previous posts.

3 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

Then save it by giving the original name provided on this site.

Which is? "disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely"? "Disable CSS animations and transitions safely"? Or doesn't it matter?

Anyway,... no more animations (and 100% cpu usage) on https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/animation. The userstyles website itself is still a nightmare though with all the fancy stuff that's loaded... *sigh*

[AstroSkipper]

28 minutes ago, Reino said:

Which is? "disable-css-animations-and-transitions-safely"? "Disable CSS animations and transitions safely"? Or doesn't it matter?

Actually, it doesn't matter. But if you want to know later where it came from, it makes sense to keep the original name.

28 minutes ago, Reino said:

The userstyles website itself is still a nightmare though with all the fancy stuff that's loaded... *sigh*

A Nightmare on Elm Street! 

Edited August 17, 2023 by AstroSkipper
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[we3fan]

Thanks guys.

@AstroSkipper
Same happens in Process Hacker and Process Explorer, shows GPU Load on Win 7, doesn't show it on XP (I guess we are both missing some resource ).
I know the chance is slim to show the GPU Load sensor for me on XP, should I try new Chipset Driver and new Video Driver?

@Dixel
Yes my GPU is pretty weak, but GPU Load sensor works properly on Win 7: 0% when Idle, 21% when playing video.
Since it works on Win 7, I thought to try make it work on XP also.

[VistaLover]

7 hours ago, Reino said:

Changing (or creating) the useragent for google.com doesn't do anything for me with regards to userstyles.org,
so I don't understand how it does for you.

Hi again ; I did not want to give very detailed explanations on this, because..., well, some MSFN members are "allergic" to long posts of mine ... But indulge yourself:

My NM28 tests were done on the 32-bit compile of the default (SSE2+) latest build offered by roytam1; its default UA string (on my system) is:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:4.8) Goanna/20230731 PaleMoon/28.10.7a1

Without modifying anything in about:config, "userstyles.org" starts to load, but then barfs with a

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Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information).

Checking indeed the Web Console, I see the "block" has to do with a Google () related URL,

https://accounts.google.com/gsi/client

By creating the below SSUAO for "google.com",

general.useragent.override.google.com;Mozilla/5.0 (%OS_SLICE% rv:65.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/65.0

that "client-side exception" is being mitigated and, consequently, the page does now load!

Incidentally, that "google.com" SSUAO will allow you now to be served the most recent incarnation of the

https://www.google.com/

search engine result pages, instead of a dumped-down version "legacy" browsers are being served (Fx < 65.0) .

My primary UXP browser is St52; this one comes with a native (built-in) SSUAO for google.com:

general.useragent.override.google.com;Mozilla/5.0 (%OS_SLICE% rv:71.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/71.0 Basilisk/52.9.0

This one is enough to allow the loading of a "basic" "userstyles.org" homepage, but pages for individual userstyles end up as blank ; I had to impersonate Chrome () on Serpent 52 (but NOT on NM28) for the "site" to work properly...

general.useragent.override.userstyles.org;Chrome/86.0.4240.198

(in fact, just the word "Chrome" should be enough ...)

Kind regards .

Edited August 17, 2023 by VistaLover

[Reino]

5 hours ago, VistaLover said:

Without modifying anything in about:config, "userstyles.org" starts to load, but then barfs with a

Quote

Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information).

For me this only happens when I don't allow all the Google stuff to load in uMatrix.

5 hours ago, VistaLover said:

Incidentally, that "google.com" SSUAO will allow you now to be served the most recent incarnation of the

https://www.google.com/

search engine result pages, instead of a dumped-down version "legacy" browsers are being served (Fx < 65.0) .

I didn't know that. Thanks. But I'm hardly using Google anymore nowadays. I'm very happy with DuckDuckGo, my primary search-engine.

Uhm, thanks for your elaborate answer!

Edited August 17, 2023 by Reino

[mina7601]

On 8/17/2023 at 10:17 AM, dmiranda said:

@roytam1, I took a while (one week!) to test your last build. I really like it. I have no idea why this may be (other than because I've been using one or two of your builds daily since 2016-2018 or so), but I like this latest version, very much. However, I have noticed that visiting linkedin or gmail, I get a rather surprising bug. 

I can access them better now than with the last remains of chrome in XP. But page down (or something, I'm not yet really sure) results in a recurrent keyboard-tab command link by link in the page, then up and then all over again, until pressing escape. I don't yet know if that is just me (like freak in scanner darkly), or not. 

PS: It is either a bug or that the gang of 4 or 5 experts on everything they've never tried before has found mine hiding hole. I've got an stify already.

Hello, could you elaborate more? What is "a recurrent keyboard-tab command link by link"? I visited Gmail on latest St52 and pressed Page Down key and haven't encountered such thing. Maybe I misunderstood/missed something important. Also, does this happen when you are logged in or logged out on Gmail? Thanks!

Edited August 18, 2023 by mina7601

[roytam1]

alright it is somewhat working in reactos now

[roytam1]

On 8/15/2023 at 5:25 AM, VistaLover said:

In my 2008-era, Vista SP2 (32-bit) laptop, integrated GPU, mostly everything is offloaded to the CPU when on St52; see below...

... I should be so lucky :

bring 2 prefs for disabling them in my tree: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commit/864fc133a33dcdc0a12a5531d340d3ee6e9f3778

[UCyborg]

I noticed disabling hardware acceleration in the browser, in my test case, Serpent 52, WinXP x64, actually increases GPU load, eg. watching 720p video @ 60FPS, cca. 22% with HW accel enabled and cca. 44% with HW accel disabled. GPU ran at 135 MHz in both cases, hence the relatively high percentage, at least that's how NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti behaves. Although video is definitely not smooth with accel off (it is otherwise), the YouTube's player can't tell there's lag, it doesn't indicate dropped frames. I guess there's still a lot going on GPU via GDI, which is hardware accelerated by default on XP, but obviously the same tasks are more efficiently done through D3D9.

Yeah, you won't see the browser bump up video engine load since it doesn't have a decoder that can use DXVA (AFAIK), so decoding parts are always done on the CPU. I never tried PM27 mentioned on the first page, but it requires LAV Filters DLLs, maybe these can be configured to use HW accelerated decoding? At least I remember K-Lite Codec Pack offering the option to choose whether to use it or not and if my memory is correct, it's those filters (DirectShow based decoders I think) that can use it. Perhaps those DLLs read the same settings.

I have those installed (through K-Lite Codec Pack) mostly to cover DirectShow based applications/usage scenarios, not my usual media player.

[UCyborg]

Got a mail from GitHub that they'll enforce 2FA by the end of September. I hate 2FA, what are the alternatives? I know GitLab exists, but I don't know anything about it, except that it wasn't friendly towards UXP browsers either.