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My Browser Builds (Part 4)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Anyone tried YouTube CPU Tamer by AnimationFrame? Supposed to reduce CPU usage on YouTube, though I observed the opposite. The newest Firefox I have ATM (110), there YouTube by itself also maxes out a single core when you scroll far enough into the comments section, but this doesn't seem to happen with Chromium based browser. https://www.iloveimg.com/ also has issues, should be apparent after trying any tool offered there. So still a lot of problems remain even after recent boost in compatibility. -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
On the other hand, if it can break the browser GUI, who can say there isn't a web site out there that doesn't break because of it? -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Of course it does if you just copy pasted it without telling it to apply only to WWW, not browser chrome, like: @-moz-document url-prefix("http://"), url-prefix("https://") { *, *:before, *:after { animation-delay: 0ms !important; animation-duration: 0.01ms !important; animation-iteration-count: 1 !important; transition-delay: 0ms !important; transition-duration: 0.01ms !important; /*transition: none !important;*/ } } Edit: This should still be safer than the new prefs, eg. if you open the login form on MSFN, it doesn't hide when you click something else to hide it. -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yeah, it would have to be re-written since the directives are located in a specific external stylesheet, that script only works if the CSS code is located in the first style element in the HTML document. They'll have to add support for revert. According to the compatibility table, it was implemented in Safari first in 2016. It's indeed in that version's changelog. Maybe the rest of MSFNers will be delighted by such news. At least I find it refreshing. Mozilla only did it in 2019, followed by Google in 2020. Also means whooping 7 years passed since it was implemented in any browser first. -
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UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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Yes. In the end, I tried installing when only KB2600211 was installed and when both KB2600211 and KB2600217 were installed. No difference. Then I removed these updates and finally .NET 4 and tried installing the version with slipstreamed updates from https://github.com/abbodi1406/dotNetXP (I used cmd-line parameters to exclude older .NETs), but the installer failed after it started with exception. This is far as I'm willing to go at this point, maybe someone else with more updated OS can give it a try.
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Same thing on my XP x64 as @WSC4 is seeing. I didn't find this KB2600211 update they speak of, maybe this one in particular is the key. No updates for .NET Framework 4 are installed, tried installing first two I found, KB2600217 and KB3037578, but no difference.
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My Browser Builds (Part 4)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Most intensive stuff when it comes to single page will still happen in 2 processes at best in multi-process browsers as far as I can tell. I doubt animations are treated specially from the rest of HTML/CSS. I saw Firefox's content process put max load even on 3 CPU cores (multi-threading!) at once while with Pale Moon, you're lucky when you see 2 cores loaded. In general I mean, not related to animations, these look cheap compared to other stuff that may be going on. -
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UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
In any case, no one here is smart enough to optimize animations for ancient hardware. Maybe it's impossible. Anyone here smart enough to figure out why images aren't shown in image posts on new Reddit? -
My Browser Builds (Part 4)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Windows 95 runs idle loop when nothing is happening, so it's always 100% for purely nothing happening. MS-DOS didn't idle CPU either. Though back then CPUs were pretty slow as-is, I remember having to wait for a while for level to load in Hover! (the game that was on Windows 95 CD), today you see the loading progress bar for split second. Don't recall if I copied the game to HDD back then or always ran it from CD-ROM. Back to that animation on Reddit, on my main quad-core PC (14 years old with 9 years old GPU), the CPU usage is only 8%. At least with HW accel enabled. I don't like this concept of dividing 100% among CPU cores/threads, I saw in certain Linux programs monitoring CPU usage where 100% is one core fully loaded, 200% is 2 cores fully loaded etc. I think expressing it that way is more suitable for multi-core CPUs rather than cramming all cores in 100%. There might be a lot of pixels to move in that case. With high density screens out there, perhaps it makes more sense to use higher rather than lower resolutions images. Though I don't have much experience with higher density computer screens, my old ones just keep working (14 years and 19 years). -
No, that's a generic error generated by certain framework some websites use. Mypal 68 is simply quite behind (read obsolete) on JavaScript/CSS front.
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My Browser Builds (Part 4)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Recently checked that Skyrim Reddit page with the sky animation on upstream Pale Moon on a laptop with dual-core 1,35 GHz APU with Radeon R2, radical difference between HW acceleration (GPU) on and off. CPU was pretty much fully loaded with GPU acceleration off and I actually couldn't open menus below title bar (I use them of instead of "Pale Moon" button) besides responsiveness to scrolling being very bad. GPU acceleration enabled reduced CPU usage to little below 70% and the responsiveness was back to normal. -
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It was added in Win10 20H1 and requires WDDM 2.4 or newer complaint graphics driver. They standardized the way to get the temperature and allow drivers to expose it through their (MS) interface while GPU-Z must use driver specific libraries/APIs. I hate bugs, must distance myself from them mentally, but the BS I must endure to keep myself financially stable makes it impossible to avoid getting notified about crapload of them.
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Can't be more technically specific here since I'm not a software engineer, but generally they say to accomplish one thing better than was possible in previous versions lacking the new API. Using new API directly breaks compatibility with old OS right away, which implies you need a fallback, so you have to be explicit about implementing fallback, which in turn will be practically used only on an old OS and if they don't test on old OS, they won't leave untested code inside (maintenance burden) and call it unsupported. It gets more convoluted quickly, as if it wasn't enough as it is. I also got impression from reading certain discussions in the past that multi-process architecture is more prone to security bugs, so I think they'll want to use every last trick OS provides to tighten it. I'm sure I don't need to emphasize how security is being shouted about from every rooftop. I imagine API packs for old OS would complicate matters in similar way. Then you add the into consideration how many users still use the old OS and there's even less inclination to bother supporting old ways of doing things. I'm sure some developers will also relate to the thoughts of the police officer in the following video.
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What are all these empty and meaningless words about HTTPS Everywhere? The extension is discontinued and no longer officially available on Chrome Web Store due to all browsers it supported redirecting to HTTPS on its own, its repo is archived on GitHub. Malware? What a load of bollocks... Nothing. Maybe use the right tool for the job? Or get the version from their GitHub page, no practical difference in content between them.
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ProxHTTPSProxy and HTTPSProxy in Windows XP for future use
UCyborg replied to AstroSkipper's topic in Windows XP
That said, I suspect Pale Moon will remain compatible with Windows 7 for quite some time to come. They're not bent on copying Mozilla/Google and I suspect they don't need to rely on fancy sandboxing techniques and the like anytime soon. A fair balance IMO. Though integration with modern OS' notification systems and lock screens would be a nice touch. Mozilla Firefox can show media playback controls both on Windows 10's lock screen and certain modern Linux distros' desktops lock screen as well + on its running program button in the "taskbar" (quotes 'cause they probably use other term for it). I'd suspect even if they were willing to implement any of these, they'd be lower on the priority list. I'd bump the notifications higher, they're similar to those disappearing balloons Microsoft had for the longest time. These balloons are so 2001, what's the point of having them if you can miss them?- 922 replies
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The tides are turning. Due to recent influx of game related posts, here's another: https://support.activision.com/articles/windows-7-support-in-call-of-duty 'Cause otherwise, hackers can spawn-kill you then teabag you in real life if you don't upgrade to the latest security greatness that is Windows 10. No, wait, that's yesterday's news, better switch to Windows 11 as 10 doesn't have enough claymores planted at strategic locations and they're breaching your perimeter right now!
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Nah, they won't. Bill Gates' vision about security are more real now than they ever were in his wildest dreams back then. https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-security-20-years-on-from-bill-gates-trustworthy-computing-memo-how-much-has-changed/ Windows 10 will go down the same path as Windows 7 - not enough security features. Your old hardware's not good enough to support them. Hurr durr durr!
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
UCyborg replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Gotta love the unexplainable seemingly non-logical issues! Wasn't a nightmare, but, average member of society will be unable to relate to my experiences. Patience is not a virtue of most folks these day. I'm not bothered by things taking several more seconds to load.- 2,340 replies
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I may turn off few things there and there, most stuff is left as-is though. Doesn't bother me, alright? Encountering strange things with computer software is nothing new to me, whether it be normally reproducible bug when repro conditions are understood or something that happens because at some point something must have flipped and nobody can figure out what happened. My XP x64 installation has one weird bug, unknown if it's normal XP bug or something specific, but I have the screen set to turn off in 10 min. And it just doesn't happen. It will turn off if I put it to 1 min. And it will turn off in 10 min if also a screensaver is set to turn on in 5 min. But just have it set to turn off in 10 min without screensaver before, nope, won't budge. I didn't try other combinations and I won't bother.
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UCyborg replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
How do you define "MSFN as a whole"? Few folks there and there? For the number of accounts registered, MSFN is pretty deserted. And FWIW, there are 70 year olds out there that don't have as much problem with modern web (or Windows 10, while at it). I'm not sure if I was among those complainers if I still had that old computer with 2 GHz Celeron and 1 or 1,5 GB of RAM. I ran Vista on it at some point, I'd probably make it run Windows 7. Maybe I'd look into some lightweight Linux distro. Would be interesting to compare the browsers. Never really looked into lightweight Linux distros and always went with the bloated ones. I have the RAM and the horsepower, why settle for less? Non-bloated can mean feature-less. Heh, my smartphone has 1 GB of RAM and I can't say I feel excluded with it on any website. Would be interesting to know what LatencyMon had to say on Win7. Specs look nice to me, I have a slower laptop from 2014, 1,35 GHz dual-core APU, 2 GB of RAM. It never ran anything below Windows 8.1 though, no extreme lag, but takes its time to crunch through stuff.- 2,340 replies
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I won't spend any more time troubleshooting the unexplainable as it's pointless and leads nowhere. The entire internet has no reference to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ServerKey. The installation of the same Win10 build in a VM works fine. I may re-install in the future or maybe switch to a different build, it's simple, effective and proven to work without requiring to be a rocket scientist. But I'm not in a hurry as long as important stuff still works.
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ProxHTTPSProxy and HTTPSProxy in Windows XP for future use
UCyborg replied to AstroSkipper's topic in Windows XP
Because Chromium isn't designed for very old hardware and very old OS. Though to be fair, the browser New Moon is forked from isn't either, MCP is just slow at advancing it. But in other cases, even few years old Chromium versions run circles around all legacy Mozilla forks combined, as far as average raw performance is concerned.- 922 replies
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