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New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20240420-3219d2d-uxp-552db66da0-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20240420-3219d2d-uxp-552db66da0-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20240420-3219d2d-uxp-552db66da0-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20240420-d849524bd-uxp-552db66da0-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20240420-d849524bd-uxp-552db66da0-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20240420-d849524bd-uxp-552db66da0-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20240420-d849524bd-uxp-552db66da0-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2470 - Check for failure of getting IDXGIKeyedMutex. (07cc276a10) - Issue #2472 - Enable dialog element by default. (f2c576b12c) - [DOM] Add nullcheck on mDoc in GetEventTargetParent (2811d30051) - Issue #2503 - Part 1: add CPU IS support flags to Navigator interface (35d7a1fe5a) - Issue #2503 - Part 2: Add CPU IS support flags to UpdateUtils URL substitutions. (a211c7d7f3) - Issue #2503 - Part 2b: Fix missing navigator in UpdateUtils. (baf98e0dde) - Issue #2503 - Part 3: Add CPU capabilities to about:support. (407a79e79f) - [XPCOM] Warn about .xrm-ms files on Windows (treat as executable) (f6204a7ca8) - [network] Keep track of and check HTTP/2 header sizes. (1ddd3ea76b) - [js] Simplify tracing of arguments in MarkThisAndArguments. (dc52303799) - [gfx] Pull several OTS fixes from upstream to improve data safety. (9b6c2f36f1) - [dom media] Avoid a potential issue when assigning a media data buffer. (9eaee03eb4) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes since my last build: - dom: check mDoc before use, as it can be null (0acd996e03) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

BTW, I do not watch YouTube videos in browsers under Windows XP. YouTube has become bloated and cumbersome for many years. Under Windows XP and older, weaker machines, there are different ways to watch them more unbloated and less resource-consuming. @NotHereToPlayGames One way is to use the extension uTube from RealityRipple Software for UXP browsers. Doing so, you won't see any ads, even not these annoyances at the end of the Adblocker Test Video. All you have to do is to edit the install.rdf to make it compatible with New Moon 28 or Serpent 52.

uBlock Origin 1.16.6b1 by @UCyborg: https://github.com/UCyborg/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases

Maybe on Pale Moon, but in any case not on New Moon 28 when using @UCyborg's uBlock Origin 1.16.6b1 or uBlock Origin Legacy 1.16.4.35.

Is there a particular feature from the WebExtension that stands out in those invalid -for uBO Legacy- entries? In other words: is there a particular feature that should be clearly the first one to be ported over to uBO Legacy? Or it's a complex combination of features, and we cannot easily pick one out?

We have to assume that you are using One-Core API, correct?

Mozilla does not use XP's cert store. This thread updates XP's cert store and will not affect any browser's INTERNAL cert store, it will only effect the OS cert store. Two different stores entirely.

It doesn't require hardware acceleration. Even a C2D has enough performance to open 1080p h265. You need h265 in mp4 to test it. But I've already checked, the h265 video does open. Tested in Win XP.

Guys, sorry for the late arrival. There is a lot of true info in these recent posts, there is also a lot of misleading half-truths. I shall attempt to clear the air, but sometimes that is impossible here at MSFN when people doing the discussing already have preconceived notions (which may result in this being my ONLY reply to these recent posts). I speak solely towards my 360Chrome v13.5.1030 Redux as that is the only version I still use. My other versions "should" be the same in this regard. First, yes, it is "true" that iTrusChina Co.,Ltd. is LISTED in the Trusted Certificates Store - that is not the same thing as saying it is being "used" by 360Chrome. The USE of this certificate is "supposed to be" BROKEN in my builds. Now then, with that said, how do we PROVE that the USE of this cert is BROKEN? You must must must first locate a web site that USES that cert! https://valid-isrgrootx2.letsencrypt.org/ does NOT use that cert - it uses "E1". More importantly, it uses "ECDHE_ECDSA" as the key exchange mechanism - this is not compatible with WinXP and cannot be made compatible with WinXP. My 360Chrome is "secure" for this E1 cert using ECDHE_ECDSA because this is on WINDOWS 10 and not XP!

Why off-top? It's not off-top. I'll tell you where. Alex had his own website long before he made that github account. Several MSFN members linked to that site, but it was not allowed for posting because Alexei hosted cr*cks on his site along with the browser Thorium. Then he deleted that site after the scandal with the child p0rn distribution (but we are forbidden to go into further details) by Dave-H. As you may remember, the old Thorium topic was locked, probably due to the reason of Alex (Thorium) distributing cr*cked Windows loaders, etc...

Offtop: Where did you find out he's from Russia? I am from Russia myself, but I have not seen any posts on any forum that he is Russian. And also in the browser there is no part of localization in Russian. In the web archive, all the snapshots say Oklahoma. https://web.archive.org/web/20220124195629/https://github.com/Alex313031

No, those are two completely different guys. To clarify: Supermium is made by @win32 - Canada, Thorium (100% based on Supermium) but made by Alex F. "Alex313031" - Russia.

Fully updated Windows is always key, specially in XP days. I can't uderstand why a lot of people ignoring UpdatePacks and they crying and complaining. It's still same after another 10 years. Yes, and of course there could be bugs. But I quess I must face these issues, when testing images on real machines. Another point is, many "Windows XP Enthusiast" never have real XP machine and never used them, they are just too young..

Or, you are using other filter lists than me which is probably more true.

Again off-topic, but the faulty file open dialogue has been fixed on the latest version of Thorium, so I guess Supermium will not be far behind!

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We are mixing apples and oranges. Mypal uses an INTERNAL cert store to pass ECC on XP. Supermium uses an INTERNAL cert store (hidden from the user as far as I can tell) to pass ECC on XP. 360Chrome fails ECC on XP because its INTERNAL cert store does not contain the same INTERNAL certs as Mypal or Supermium. This has actually always been one of the ADVANTAGES of Mozilla-based browsers - a cert store fully INDEPENDENT of the OS it is ran on because the cert store is INTERNAL to the browser itself. Update the browser, you update the cert store. No need for threads like this because the cert store is updated when the browser is updated, keep the OS as old and ancient as you want, you're not using the OS cert store.

System requirements mention XP SP1. SP1! Where are those days... 99% of developers wouldn't even mention it as it's usually support nightmare (dealing with updateless OS). But number of people seem to have weird beliefs about updates, thinking they're smarter running without them and expecting everything to run smoothly regardless.

You can't know that in general. Some lists, especially the well-known ones such as Adguard, uBlock or Easylist, are certainly better maintained than less well-known or private ones. But I can definitely tell from the download size that it sometimes decreases and then increases again. So, entries are both deleted and added. From time to time, I load these lists for the offline update of my mod. Therefore, I can't agree with your statement in general. It doesn't really reflect the reality.

That may have something to do with it. If I change XP's Date and Time Properties not to automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes then toLocaleTimeString() reports the system time correctly under Serpent. With the automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes in force Serpent reports the system time incorrectly. The original Firefox ESR works properly in both cases. It would seem that Serpent is adjusting the system time for DST from the system time that is already adjusted. Ben.

In theory yes but practically no. And who will do that? As @UCyborg and me already stated, uBlock Origin is one of the most complex extensions. He called it rightly a "beast" that is difficult to tame. And it is hard work to implement or port such improvements from the webextension. And it is not even certain that they will work as expected.Therefore, we have to use more and good filter lists to get similar results in blocking at the moment when using the legacy extension. This is my assessment so far. We will see what happens in the future. In any case, I didn't get such ads you observed on the website www.ovagames.com.

... Well. you don't really have to own a GFX card with HEVC H/W decoding support to test; S/W HEVC decoding by the browser should suffice; navigate to https://tools.woolyss.com/html5-audio-video-tester/ and if the two HEVC entries are coloured in green, then support is implemented: (PS: Raw HEVC decoding support is not sufficient in itself for the above test; encapsulation of it inside the MP4 media container is also required...)

Please don't ask about things only related to Thorium in this thread, which is about Supermium. There is a dedicated thread for Thorium.

But they cooperate https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/commit/beafac6c78bf7cdc2005c2d0f0cfa0e10a25e48f

360EE uses system certificates like other Chromuim

I'll try that over the weeknd. Thanks.

I find it amazing that Start11 can literally crash all of explorer when configuring its menus but StartAllBack which is one of the most stable pieces of software I've ever seen causes security or performance issues. If Tihiy has to discontinue SAB I will be forced to begrudgingly use Windows 11 stock because Start11 is not a viable alternative in any way. It's amazing that a company as established as Stardock can sell something just so bug ridden and unstable. No wonder there has been a rivalry (it seems), Stardock is this huge company but they can't even come close to matching the quality of the work of one guy. Doing a simple search in the start menu after a few seconds triggers an explorer crash, what a pile of junk that is.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20240420-7bda12e7-uxp-552db66da0-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20240420-7bda12e7-uxp-552db66da0-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20240420-id-656ea98-uxp-552db66da0-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20240420-id-656ea98-ia-93af9a0-uxp-552db66da0-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

The whole test video does not show any ads. In the last 10 seconds before it is ending, it shows a notification for an optional subscription and a preview image of the next video which would start automatically if autoplay is on. Sorry, I don't consider this to be advertising. And I don't believe that this can be fully blocked by an ad blocker. This is just an assumption, of course. I said: "And I don't believe that this can be fully blocked by an ad blocker. This is just an assumption, of course." This was really just an assumption, and I was wrong. Both elements can be fully blocked by uBlock Origin Legacy. Here is the code: www.youtube.com##.ytp-ce-covering-overlay ||yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AIdro_mXEGaCazliYd6jLRL48P-rscos9Syk1sXeF7FWI7XB_5w=s400-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj$image ||i.ytimg.com/vi/1OE6AtIUGk4/maxresdefault.jpg$image www.youtube.com##.ytp-ce-element-show.ytp-ce-size-1920.ytp-ce-top-right-quad.ytp-ce-large-round.ytp-ce-video.ytp-ce-element But to be honest, it is of course not worth the efforts. These two elements do not bother me at all. Cheers, AstroSkipper

The new 122.0.6261.168 version of Thorium seems to be working fine. One thing I have found is that it generated a folder in my profile folder called 'Screen_AI'. This appears to be a Google AI thing which it presumably downloaded in the background. Unfortunately, whatever it is, it doesn't work on XP, just generating errors in my Windows System event log whenever Thorium is started. Looking at other Chrome browsers, there should be an option in the settings to switch off this AI stuff, but that option is not there in Thorium, and I can't find any relevant flags to disable it either. I have worked around it by simply disabling chrome_screen_ai.dll by re-naming it.

Fixed in the next version, I shall to publish it upon a week most likely

Latest release published mere minutes ago; the first one (non-BETA) to officially support WinXP on both 32 & 64-bits, the same is true for Windows Vista SP2: https://github.com/Alex313031/thorium-legacy/releases/tag/M122.0.6261.168 As instructed, read all the Release Notes very carefully and then be extra meticulous on selecting and running the most suitable installation files (including Fonts) for your OS+bitness!

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You misquoted my reply, those words are torn out! I wrote: "Different, erroneous spelling doesn't count". The words are separated with a comma. I didn't write what you try to imply. https://msfn.org/board/topic/186108-keep-a-word-drop-a-word/?do=findComment&comment=1262993

Probably they implemented some anti-hack feature, in addition to limiting youtube's videos frequently posted by some members?

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legacyfan - above is a small recap, there were several just for the capital L and F. Perhaps a Post-It Note on your monitor that reads "No username change until January 2028".