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Depends on your perspective. Here's a good read - https://www.webperf.tips/tip/browser-process-model/ As the perfect example cited by someone else here at MSFN (unable to locate at the moment), single-process FF is slower than multi-process FF, but both are "stable".

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230805-3219d2d-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20230805-3219d2d-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230805-3219d2d-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20230805-d849524bd-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20230805-d849524bd-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20230805-d849524bd-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20230805-d849524bd-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2026 - Part 1 - Implement BigInt64 and BigUint64Array. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1456569 (b64643e410) - Issue #2026 - Part 2a - Support BigInt in NumberFormat and toLocaleString. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1543677 (d972016c23) - Issue #2026 - Part 2b - Format BigInts representable as int64_t without first converting them to strings. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1543677 (3ce9cf4deb) - Issue #2026 - Part 3a - Add support for BigInt in devtools. (Server side) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1527867 (e861cd3b3a) - Issue #2026 - Part 3b - Add BigInt Devtools support. (legacy frontend) (61efc86b21) - Issue #2026 - Part 3c - Add BigInt Devtools support. (new frontend) (9042881cea) - Issue #2026 - Part 4 - Fill in missing dense elements case and fix a comment. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1456569 Skipped this during the initial implementation, not sure when or if this code path is used, but I figure it should be there just in case. Also fix debug builgs by removing an no longer valid MOZ_ASSERT. (b7e487bdf1) - Issue #1240 - Follow-up: Fix incorrect values in Number() constructor. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1466893 Our code base was using the return value to create the Number object. However with the BigInt changes, it is no longer stored in rval, use args[0]. (df03810723) - Issue #1240 - Follow-up: Add missing JSVAL_TYPE_BIGINT cases in JitFrames.cpp. As pointed out by roytam1 during testing with Discord. (5c3cedb141) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

I'm sure that Vista ended up maturing with age. All I know "living through it" is that when Vista first came out, it rendered my laptop useless and so I reverted to XP. It was basically "that experience" which still has me running XP to this day! The multi-continent global company that I work for *never* ran Vista on ANY of our company PCs. We went from XP straight to 7, skipping over Vista. Then went from 7 straight to 10, skipping over 8/8.1. We (the company) is also skipping 11. Can that be correlated to "every other" Windows release or that the skipped one's were "that bad"? I'd say "not really" because we didn't migrate to 10 until two or three versions in. Again, I don't doubt that Vista matured with age. But I also know what my "first impression" was and Best Buy even offered me a "free downgrade" to revert a brand new PC that came with Vista to run XP instead. To the best of my knowledge, Vista is the only Windows OS that ever allowed retailers to offer "free downgrades". But again I will repeat, I don't doubt that Vista matured with age (I personally never looked back once offered that "free downgrade").

I go to any store in my town, I go to Paris, I have a friend who owns a big shop, I see the same amount of each Windows versions being sold with ready made computers, people will basically buy what they told. I don't know how those, who wrote such opinions, determine if Vista was a "sales failure", are you business owners in huge cities? Were you in business in 2007? The one who made this topic was 5 y.o. (from the public info at his account). Those "seasoned members", who upvoted you, one wasn't even born, the other one was 5 y.o. , the third one is not any windows user at all. I agree with the others, you can't just call any OS a "sh*t pile" here, I don't do it, so why should you? You can't even imagine what I want to call Windows 7 and 8, especially 7. I'm fighting the temptations really hard.

Many thanks @Ben Markson (and @genieautravail ) for your additional, most valuable, input ! ... As it's already apparent , I'm no fan myself of "chatrooms" (I think they're more "youth"-orient(at)ed), but a great fan of "forums", where one can be more verbose and analytic ; I realise, though, I belong to a minority these days ... Yes, the changelog for v5.61 states: ... but their GitHub source repo is weirdly formatted (no individual commit messages) ; the comparison below: https://github.com/mtrojnar/stunnel/compare/stunnel-5.60...stunnel-5.61 is very long and, being a non-coder, I wasn't able to pinpoint the breaking change(s) ; their repo also lacks an issue tracker, so nothing can be reported there ... Their main site claims they still support Windows XP: https://www.stunnel.org/platforms.html ... but probably that list hasn't been updated in a while ... Besides, they no longer provide themselves x86 compiles, 32-bit platform support is now under their "Commercial Support" paid schemes : https://www.stunnel.org/support.html However, there exists a "free" stunnel-users mailing list here , you stand to lose nothing by posting your "issue" there ; alternatively, you can try your luck at the forked repo: https://github.com/josealf/stunnel-win32/issues/new FWIW, the v5.70 tray icon appears and functions as expected in Vista SP2 32-bit: That "weirdness" is to be expected ; other than that, it does appear that openssl-1.1.1u DLLs load fine in your XP SP3 box ; I was somewhat doubtful before because I had read in the past that 1.1.1+ requires, by default, Vista SP2+ APIs to properly function; but perhaps this is relevant only for the VS2015+ compiled builds, e.g. https://wiki.overbyte.eu/wiki/index.php/ICS_Download The 32-bit builds kindly provided by @josealf on GitHub are being compiled on an old GCC version (8.3.0+) with glibc-2.27 (from 2018), perhaps that's the reason NT 5.1 compatibility is being preserved in the produced binaries ... And some final stunnel "trivia": The last official 32-bit Windows release was, as is known, v5.49, bundled with openssl-1.0.2-fips and "the lot" compiled with VS2008, all inherently compatible with XP ... It's indeed kind of an irony that openssl was upgraded to v1.1.1 (TLSv1.3 capable) in the immediately next version 5.50, the first to be only offered as a win64-build ; openssl-1.1.1* was being bundled with stunnel v5.50-5.60, while v5.61-5.70 are bundled with openssl-3.0.x (latest LTS channel); josealf's win32 builds are still stuck on the 1.1.1* LTS channel, though (to be EoL'd next month ) ... And that concludes this ...

Here you are: https://repo.palemoon.org/Basilisk-Dev/Basilisk/commit/894aab8cb56b34f1396c2471e5d792ba6fee893a https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon/pulls/1928 After seeing all of these domains that are having issues with the Goanna slice I'm now wondering if I should just configure Basilisk to never send the Goanna slice at all.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20230805-ef491d91-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20230805-ef491d91-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20230805-id-656ea98-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20230805-id-656ea98-ia-93af9a0-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild for UXP changes please see above.

I have good and bad news, I have managed to "initialize" the Critical Update Notification (CUN) 4.0 for Windows 98 and the Automatic Updates for Windows Me, editing the libraries to redirect them to the Windows Update Restored domains. The bad thing is that nothing happens afterwards, besides that I can't find the respective log of these services. Maybe it's the iudent.cab check or cyclic redundancy. Anyway, it's amazing to see these wonders working. To use CUN run WUCrtUpd.exe in C:\System. For Automatic Updates, type in the console "wuauboot -aumagic". For this it is necessary to install the respective update in WURv4.

I'm glad that it works

I saw today's news of WUv4 now being available for (English) Win98/ME, and yes, it does indeed work, I am so happy!

I don't really disagree. I was just trying to clarify that I'm not a Vista "hater", as the RTM defenders might think. Silly really. I will say though, with the basic theme, SP2 and the Platform update, this unit isn't running all that badly.

Hmmm, I don't think that version really qualifies, that could even (slowly ) run on "Vista Capable" hardware (unlike all the "real" versions of Vista): https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html Seriously, besides the grossly underestimated hardware requirements (that made in most cases the upgrade process on existing hardware result as a slow as molasses Operating System) the (initial) lack of drivers was a nightmare, and also (cheap) new hardware with the Vista Ready sticker was - generally speaking - low performing (again because the minimal requirements were - as it is traditional with MS - way too optimistic, the rule of the thumb, since NT 4.00 times, has been that you need double the processor speed, and four times the RAM to get a decently running machine). jaclaz

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Go Ahead! Call Windows 7 or 8 whatever you want. They are just operating systems. I won't get hurt, I promise! By the way, jaclaz commented similarly as I did. He is quite a helpful, seasoned member of MSFN, I doubt he was a wee young lad in 2007. Oh neither was I. I was doing system installs back then, and had for quite awhile. The comment supporting the use of Vista RTM as being problem free are anecdotal at best. whereas I'm sure if you look, you;ll find less than stellar reviews on Vista's release back in early 2007. The funniest thing about all this: I actually came to love Vista later on, once SP2 was applied. And even more funny: I'm typing this post on MyPal 68, using a Dell Inspiron 1420 notebook running .... yes, Vista Home Basic. I was the guy who STARTED the thread for Vista Updates using Server 2008 way back when. So I'm hardly a Vista hater. I just chose to see reality. So everybody relax! Sheesh!

I do think that is where most of us here at MSFN over-exaggerate. Every few years? That is an exaggeration. My newest PC is a Dell XPS 8700 from 2013. Ten years old and still very impressive for a WEB BROWSER. Only the "gamer crowd" would find it unappealing. And again, that is my newest PC. The problem, here at MSFN at least, is the unrealistic view that something TWENTY years old should perform "identically" to something TEN or even FIVE years old. Unrealistic. It would be one thing if the MSFNer that puplicly cries (for lack of a better word) about that 20yr old computer being slow was from a Third World Country - but most are not. Most of it, to me at least, just sounds like the cries of somebody needing to be heard but has nothing to say. It's a gray area, I get it. I disprove of the "throw-away society" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throw-away_society (my DAILY DRIVER car is THIRTY TWO YEARS OLD without a single spot of rust!). Perform a search for "average life of computer" and you will find article after article after article citing three to five years. THAT IS RIDICULOUS! All of mine are two to three times that! But we simply are unrealistic to think a four to five times that should perform identically to a two to three times that. We only have ourselves to blame on how we "react". I personally LAUGH MY BUTT OFF when I take off from a red light and have to take the foot off the gas to hit the clutch, manually move transmission from 1st gear to 2nd gear, and the person behind me has to HIT THEIR BRAKES to keep from rear-ending me! We only have ourselves to blame if we CHUCKLE about our old PC or if we cry and whine and act like a "have not" thinking it 'unfair' that the "have's" have a better computer. Because let's face it, we could all have a better computer if we wanted one. None of these shouts are coming from a Third World Country. Or maybe they are, I don't follow that closely - because I don't want to rear-end anybody.

Oh, come on. You cannot even enable e10s in New Moon. But you can enable it in Serpent (both 52 and 55). Did you try that? If not, you did an "apples to oranges" comparison: FF with e10s is faster than Serpent without e10s. Well, duh; FF with e10s is faster than FF without e10s too - that's why we have a whole thread on enabling it! (To be fair, FF/Serpent with e10s is quite the memory hog - and still slow - compared to Chrome 86/87 ports. So I wouldn't recommend it unless you've beefed up the RAM in your PC, preferably with 64-bit XP or later so you can get more than 4GB, or at least with an SSD for the swap file.) Technically, you're right about that. Multiprocessing is mostly a convenience for developers. But that said, it does have its advantages for us end users. Beyond the obvious (letting a 32-bit app use more RAM), if your tab crashes in FF/Serpent, and you're running in the default single-process mode, your whole browser crashes! But if that happens in multiprocess mode, you just reload the tab. <rant> And why shouldn't she be? The original idea behind HTML was supposed to be that any browser, no matter how primitive, would render a "usable" Web page, merely ignoring the tags it didn't understand. If you use a browser from 2001, it may look like a Web site from 2001, but you're still supposed to be able to use it, at least. But that's long gone, thanks largely to Google (but also others including Mozilla). Nowadays, if your browser doesn't understand the latest bullish snarkifying operator added to JavaScript in the latest Chromium release, you're likely to just get a totally blank page (or if you're "lucky," a curt message telling you to "upgrade" your browser, even if that means "upgrading" your OS to the latest monstrosity from Micro$oft, and in turn buying a new PC capable of running that monstrosity) because the Web designer used JavaScript with that bullish snarkifying operator to build the entire Web page from scratch! HTML? Who needs it? (With the side effect being you can't disable JavaScript any more, and have to rely on other, more complex means to block the spyware embedded within.) So yeah, we're angry. Not (for the most part) because we intend to use a PC that old, but because we shouldn't have to keep buying newer, more expensive PCs every few years just to keep doing the same exact things we've always done, just because some Web framework developer couldn't resist using that shiny new bullish snarkifying operator (for "security")! </rant>

yeah I decided to keep it.

Thank you for your thoughts and tips! I already read the MPL-2.0 FAQ. As far as I understood all correctly, the measures I have listed should actually satisfy the MPL 2.0 licence conditions: Or, have I missed something? What do you think?

Maybe the expectations were too low. The article you linked to is an opinion by an analyst written while Vista was made available, january 2007, compare with these (written two years after launch): https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1898610_1898625_1898627,00.html https://www.technologizer.com/2009/08/10/sixteen-reasons-the-windows-vista-era-never-quite-happened/ Vista was not a success for Microsoft (no matter if rightfully or wrongly people did whatever they could to avoid it). Windows 7[1] release was accelerated as much as possible, hoping to replicate the success of XP. jaclaz [1] please read as Vista SP3

For whom it was "failure"? As an example, Vista's business sales were even stronger than expected! https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/report-vistas-business-sales-stronger-than-expected/ Vista RTM ran perfectly fine on several of my Siemens computers, I still run RTM without updates on a Haswell PC from 2013.

What would be the easiest way to make a fork of an extension available to the general public without creating a GitHub repo? I already made a proper fork with my own branding and identification. I also kept the reference to the MPL-2.0 licence. And I would provide links. One to the original source files and a second to the changed files. What other information would have to be provided in order to avoid trouble? And what is the most simple way to do this all under the MPL-2.0 licence? Further ideas and opinions are still welcome.

Sorry about that, it's my fault for trying to do a running commentary on something I was still working on – it's what can happen when you get sucked into treating a forum like a chatroom. I removed v5.70, it works (tested with Outlook 2002 email client) but has a weird glitch with not displaying sTunnel's tray icon and no matter what I tried I couldn't get it to appear properly. Went back to v5.60 (there's some indication in the change logs that the system tray code changed with v5.61) and the tray icon is back how it should be. Finally, I took the v5.70 install and replaced just the stunnel.exe and tstunnel.exe files with the v5.60 versions. So, it has the later OpenSSL DLLs but is using an earlier version of stunnel. I'm not sure that this is the best idea but... it works (again tested with Outlook 2002). You can even see the weirdness in the above log (the Compiled versus Running dates). Now, having said all that I use stunnel in a pretty basic way (I am by no means an 'expert' stunnel user) so it is possible that if you want to start creating your own certificates that it won't work. All I'm doing is keeping my ancient version of Outlook working with my email provider who is threatening ever newer TLS standards. Ben.

Web sites are not "developed for multi process" browsers or not. There is no header that the client-end tells the server-end how many processors the client has. There is no "serve this version" for single-process, "serve that version" for multi-process. The closest would probably be mobile layout versus desktop/laptop layout. But that's more of a horizontal resolution issue than a processor-count issue (mobile phones are all single-processor, to the best of my knowledge).

I technically don't define it as "based on" anything. It's more of a hodge-podge conglamerate. Theoretically, yeah, I suppose it "started" with Fx52. But... St52 can do nullish coalescing operator, something Firefox couldn't do until v72 - https://caniuse.com/?search=nullish St52 can do optional chaining, something Firefox couldn't do until v74 - https://caniuse.com/?search=chaining St52 partially supports BigInt, something Firefox couldn't do until v68 - https://caniuse.com/?search=bigint The list is kind of endless. BUT there are also things that Firefox can do that St52 cannot do. And even more things that a Chrome-based can do that a Firefox-based cannot do. And vice versa, of course.

Since July 10 (made public since July 11) I have managed to run Windows XP x64 SP2 (built using XP2ESD) from UEFI Class 3 on Coffee Lake Windows 11 laptop on winload.efi 16497 using FlashBoot 3.3n bootmgfw.efi and Windows 7 generic VGA drivers by modifying the contents of mounted devices and enum key. I have used the XP2ESD build which contains the backported generic drivers and ACPI 2.0 drivers (from here) to get this to work. So far I tested acpibit64crack.sys from Dietmar. The fact that I managed to boot XP on such new hardware means that the ACPI 2.0 worked! Touchpad doesn't work because there aren't any working XP drivers for Intel Serial IO I2C Host Controller (9DE8 and 9DE9 in my case) to get the Elan1200 I2C Hid device to install using the backported generic touchpad driver from windows 8. USB XHCI controller and USB 3.0 root hub work without problems so I can use external mouse (for the cursor) and USB wireless adapter (for internet). I don't know if it's caused by ACPI incompatibility but I have tried to backport the Intel Serial IO I2C Host Controller from Windows 7 and it still wouldn't work even with Mov's ntoskrnl emu extender files! I have provided the device manager entries of my XP installation (from the enum key) so you can see the information on the drivers installed in my working XP OS.Useful's-XP-device-manager-entries.txt

Palefill has been updated to the version 1.27 with interesting changes. The web interfaces of GMX and WEB.DE have not worked in New Moon 28 for a very long time. With Palefill 1.27, the interfaces of these email providers can finally be loaded normally again. No need to run anymore the interfaces with reduced functionality at the moment. A big thanks to martok! Very good job!

And looks like this one is also russian ! Unfortunately I'm quite busy lately and I have no time to do a proper research, so please go ahead and prove otherwise .

I'm not quite familiar with the others, but browsec is a well-known KGB data mining tool. Browsec logs your data, and it’s based in Russia. Besides , even in paid version !: It doesn’t support P2P, It doesn’t support Netflix, HBO Max, and Disney+ Source : https://www.vpnmentor.com/reviews/browsec/ EDIT: Maybe the other suggested VPN providers need a proper research too ? Add reviews from trusted sources ?

Thanks for your hint! I already wrote about these modifications here in these posts: I left the maxVersion at 52.9.* but it can increased at any time (especially for Serpent 55), of course. All these extensions work in Serpent 52 and New Moon 28. I use a lot of them. But nevertheless, thank you for your contribution here! As always, much appreciated. Kind regards, AstroSkipper

The prefs I had to toggle in the past didn't need any restart of the browser. But, you can add a restart button and place it next to your toggle button. I have a restart button which comes with the extension Toolbar Buttons.

1 - Well, the first big one was when I had a pretty hard collision with an obstacle riding my bicycle at 4 or 5 y.o.. Got stitched up my head. Scars, etc. Also, fighting on chains in the childhood, etc. 2 - Then to the same place on the head, but this time riding a heavy motorcycle. I remained alive only because it was the legendary BMW R75 from the WW2 era, like I said - heavy and it rammed through another "modern" vehicle, thus allowing my body to slip through. Of course I had terrible injuries to the head and also broke my finger that was in awful pain for another 5-6 years. 3 - Then my father didn't come to the holiday, like in that Austin Powers film and it all got mental in addition to physical. 4,5,6,7,8,9,..... - Multiple military injuries not even mentioned. How could anyone not become stupid after that ?

Thank you for the nice compliment !

1 - Not Frisians, lol , no. 2 - That's what I meant, perhaps I need to get a new one - before it's not too late.

Stupidity has its roots in the genes. Bad genes ? Stupid.

Stupid, silly people could be so fun, don't forget this. I mean, if their stupidity isn't too annoying. Let's vote, I'm up for moderately calm stupid people. Though, some raving lunatics are also good, from time to time.

Even Cicero knew that long time ago.

This thread is just too predestined to discuss politics and religion, which is however forbidden in this forum. Politics and religion are always the drivers of all evil. Whether it is poor education or war, everything can be traced back to politics and religion. But unfortunately, any deeper consideration would violate the forum rules.

I've vould told you, that Russian orthodox church, that is KGB - ised, is not the same as christians not politicized ...

Toggle GIF Animation - A custom button for controlling the GIF animation on a specific website Toggle GIF Animation is a custom button for controlling the GIF animation on a specific website. A simple left-click onto the toolbar button stops immediately the animation of all loaded GIF images without reloading the page, and the CPU load is back to normal subsequently. A further left-click will start the animation again. Absolutely great especially for computers which are under-performing, equipped with an old, weak CPU! The GIF animation is generally enabled and will only be toggled on the current website by this button. Tested version: 0.3.0, created by Infocatcher. I uploaded the Toggle GIF Animation custom button as an XML file for an offline installation. Here is the download link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/87ua0k6ageqgslz/Toggle_GIF_Animation-0.3.0.xml/file For the installation of this button, the extension Custom Buttons is required which you can get from this post: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183923-extensions-and-custom-buttons-for-uxp-browsers-corrections-modifications-adjustments-and-special-recommendations/?do=findComment&comment=1226328 Cheers, AstroSkipper

Everyone , excuse me for off-topic ! You might be surprised , but I actually studied some Finnish ! Yes I did , back in the early-early 1990s. Of course I do not remember much , but "ihmiset" you're referring to , is already plural too , just like in English ! I find it strange , like very strange (assuming you're Finnish , as it says on your profile). https://en.bab.la/dictionary/finnish-english/ihmiset Back on topic : I have an idea to try out windows 98 (vanilla) on a G31 mobo from 2006 , someone did it already ? Is it stable ? Thanks. P.S. My teacher , a 25-28 years old female from Finland (!), said almost 80% of "Finnish" words came from English . I do not know if it's true , I quit the studies , Finnish was quite hard .

Do you mind me asking what is your citizenship ? And where does this "freedom fighter" live now ?

I should've been more specific , it doesn't even work with the ported DX file. Today I tried to run it on a videocard that has native DX12 (feature level 12_1) and despite what some websites claim (they claim you can run it on a 12_1 feature level card) , it just doesn't run. Says "win 7 is not supported on your current hardware" . But the hardware is supported officially and the game is from official sources.

Assassin's Creed Valhalla doesn't work on Windows 7.

I've searched this error , some say it is related to VCRedist 2008 absence , strange , I have them both - x86 and x 64. I wasn't going to use that old chrome , anyway.

Installed , didn't help, all the same . Also added VCRedist from 2005 to 2015 x86 and x 64. Perhaps redirection is a no go ?

Hi , I've tried x64 Chromium ungoogled 84 , 85 , 86 and nothing happens , yep that's right , no errors shown. Also , I've tried some games with this method with zero luck . For example, games with "mono" engine simply tell : cannot load mono. Others just quit in silence, like their process shown for a sec., then quits. By the way , could you please tell me where to read about certificates updating . Much appreciated ! Edit , I had a manual update from MS links done, still the browser tells I don't have the needed certs.

Thanks for the quick reply , both versions (32 and 64bit) won't launch . They are just giving different errors , x64 bit shows : SHAssocEnumHandlersForProtocolByApplication not found in shell32.dll And no , I'm not trying the latest versions . It's Opera 60 and earlier. Edit : maybe the patched files are old , but I don't know where to find their newer versions...

Yes, you're right , indeed. Though Vista's device manager says only ksthunk.sys and nvhda64v.sys are being used for HD audio. In my previous posts I wrote about not being able to play any HD audiotracks using Vista SP2 (bypass thru HDMI) , it allows bypass for DTS / DD5.1 only. Weird , right ?

Compared W7 to Vista HD drivers , W7 has more ot them (6 to be precise). drmk.sys (DRM related ?) ksthunk.sys nvhda64v.sys portcls.sys nvhdagenco6420103.dll nvhdap64.dll Ans Vista has only two: ksthunk.sys nvhda64v.sys

Hi, yes , HD audio (bypass through HDMI to receiver). I've tried all drivers starting from May 2013 and up to 372.70. Right now I have 344.60 installed and will leave it be for some time. I've tried almost all available drivers using both Vista and 7 - the result is the same, no DTS HD MA with Vista , could this be an artificial block which happens upon the installation ? Maybe the installer writing smth to the registry ? I'm just guessing ... If I check with with the panel "playback devices/supported formats" , there are only DTS and DD5.1, so I tried to add registry entries from W7 , now it says DTS-HD also , but it doesn't help to bypass the sound. All Video players I've tried still force DTS HD to be played as usual DTS. I remember there was a similar problem with XP , it had limitations to support "DTS stereo" only . I'm not sure who to blame , Nvidia clearly says DTS HD MA is available with GTX780.