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Depends on your perspective. Here's a good read - https://www.webperf.tips/tip/browser-process-model/ As the perfect example cited by someone else here at MSFN (unable to locate at the moment), single-process FF is slower than multi-process FF, but both are "stable".

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230805-3219d2d-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20230805-3219d2d-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230805-3219d2d-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20230805-d849524bd-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20230805-d849524bd-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20230805-d849524bd-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20230805-d849524bd-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2026 - Part 1 - Implement BigInt64 and BigUint64Array. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1456569 (b64643e410) - Issue #2026 - Part 2a - Support BigInt in NumberFormat and toLocaleString. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1543677 (d972016c23) - Issue #2026 - Part 2b - Format BigInts representable as int64_t without first converting them to strings. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1543677 (3ce9cf4deb) - Issue #2026 - Part 3a - Add support for BigInt in devtools. (Server side) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1527867 (e861cd3b3a) - Issue #2026 - Part 3b - Add BigInt Devtools support. (legacy frontend) (61efc86b21) - Issue #2026 - Part 3c - Add BigInt Devtools support. (new frontend) (9042881cea) - Issue #2026 - Part 4 - Fill in missing dense elements case and fix a comment. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1456569 Skipped this during the initial implementation, not sure when or if this code path is used, but I figure it should be there just in case. Also fix debug builgs by removing an no longer valid MOZ_ASSERT. (b7e487bdf1) - Issue #1240 - Follow-up: Fix incorrect values in Number() constructor. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1466893 Our code base was using the return value to create the Number object. However with the BigInt changes, it is no longer stored in rval, use args[0]. (df03810723) - Issue #1240 - Follow-up: Add missing JSVAL_TYPE_BIGINT cases in JitFrames.cpp. As pointed out by roytam1 during testing with Discord. (5c3cedb141) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

I'm sure that Vista ended up maturing with age. All I know "living through it" is that when Vista first came out, it rendered my laptop useless and so I reverted to XP. It was basically "that experience" which still has me running XP to this day! The multi-continent global company that I work for *never* ran Vista on ANY of our company PCs. We went from XP straight to 7, skipping over Vista. Then went from 7 straight to 10, skipping over 8/8.1. We (the company) is also skipping 11. Can that be correlated to "every other" Windows release or that the skipped one's were "that bad"? I'd say "not really" because we didn't migrate to 10 until two or three versions in. Again, I don't doubt that Vista matured with age. But I also know what my "first impression" was and Best Buy even offered me a "free downgrade" to revert a brand new PC that came with Vista to run XP instead. To the best of my knowledge, Vista is the only Windows OS that ever allowed retailers to offer "free downgrades". But again I will repeat, I don't doubt that Vista matured with age (I personally never looked back once offered that "free downgrade").

I go to any store in my town, I go to Paris, I have a friend who owns a big shop, I see the same amount of each Windows versions being sold with ready made computers, people will basically buy what they told. I don't know how those, who wrote such opinions, determine if Vista was a "sales failure", are you business owners in huge cities? Were you in business in 2007? The one who made this topic was 5 y.o. (from the public info at his account). Those "seasoned members", who upvoted you, one wasn't even born, the other one was 5 y.o. , the third one is not any windows user at all. I agree with the others, you can't just call any OS a "sh*t pile" here, I don't do it, so why should you? You can't even imagine what I want to call Windows 7 and 8, especially 7. I'm fighting the temptations really hard.

Many thanks @Ben Markson (and @genieautravail ) for your additional, most valuable, input ! ... As it's already apparent , I'm no fan myself of "chatrooms" (I think they're more "youth"-orient(at)ed), but a great fan of "forums", where one can be more verbose and analytic ; I realise, though, I belong to a minority these days ... Yes, the changelog for v5.61 states: ... but their GitHub source repo is weirdly formatted (no individual commit messages) ; the comparison below: https://github.com/mtrojnar/stunnel/compare/stunnel-5.60...stunnel-5.61 is very long and, being a non-coder, I wasn't able to pinpoint the breaking change(s) ; their repo also lacks an issue tracker, so nothing can be reported there ... Their main site claims they still support Windows XP: https://www.stunnel.org/platforms.html ... but probably that list hasn't been updated in a while ... Besides, they no longer provide themselves x86 compiles, 32-bit platform support is now under their "Commercial Support" paid schemes : https://www.stunnel.org/support.html However, there exists a "free" stunnel-users mailing list here , you stand to lose nothing by posting your "issue" there ; alternatively, you can try your luck at the forked repo: https://github.com/josealf/stunnel-win32/issues/new FWIW, the v5.70 tray icon appears and functions as expected in Vista SP2 32-bit: That "weirdness" is to be expected ; other than that, it does appear that openssl-1.1.1u DLLs load fine in your XP SP3 box ; I was somewhat doubtful before because I had read in the past that 1.1.1+ requires, by default, Vista SP2+ APIs to properly function; but perhaps this is relevant only for the VS2015+ compiled builds, e.g. https://wiki.overbyte.eu/wiki/index.php/ICS_Download The 32-bit builds kindly provided by @josealf on GitHub are being compiled on an old GCC version (8.3.0+) with glibc-2.27 (from 2018), perhaps that's the reason NT 5.1 compatibility is being preserved in the produced binaries ... And some final stunnel "trivia": The last official 32-bit Windows release was, as is known, v5.49, bundled with openssl-1.0.2-fips and "the lot" compiled with VS2008, all inherently compatible with XP ... It's indeed kind of an irony that openssl was upgraded to v1.1.1 (TLSv1.3 capable) in the immediately next version 5.50, the first to be only offered as a win64-build ; openssl-1.1.1* was being bundled with stunnel v5.50-5.60, while v5.61-5.70 are bundled with openssl-3.0.x (latest LTS channel); josealf's win32 builds are still stuck on the 1.1.1* LTS channel, though (to be EoL'd next month ) ... And that concludes this ...

Here you are: https://repo.palemoon.org/Basilisk-Dev/Basilisk/commit/894aab8cb56b34f1396c2471e5d792ba6fee893a https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon/pulls/1928 After seeing all of these domains that are having issues with the Goanna slice I'm now wondering if I should just configure Basilisk to never send the Goanna slice at all.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20230805-ef491d91-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20230805-ef491d91-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20230805-id-656ea98-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20230805-id-656ea98-ia-93af9a0-uxp-65de5a7185-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild for UXP changes please see above.

I have good and bad news, I have managed to "initialize" the Critical Update Notification (CUN) 4.0 for Windows 98 and the Automatic Updates for Windows Me, editing the libraries to redirect them to the Windows Update Restored domains. The bad thing is that nothing happens afterwards, besides that I can't find the respective log of these services. Maybe it's the iudent.cab check or cyclic redundancy. Anyway, it's amazing to see these wonders working. To use CUN run WUCrtUpd.exe in C:\System. For Automatic Updates, type in the console "wuauboot -aumagic". For this it is necessary to install the respective update in WURv4.

Hello @WSC4! Alternatively, you can check my article ProxHTTPSProxy and HTTPSProxy in Windows XP for future use under the section 5.2. There you can find everything important about Root Certificates. And under the section 11.2.4, you will find all downloads related to Root Certificates, including my most recent, self-created Root Certificate and Revoked Certificate Updaters for offline use. Cheers, AstroSkipper

I saw today's news of WUv4 now being available for (English) Win98/ME, and yes, it does indeed work, I am so happy!

Hmmm, I don't think that version really qualifies, that could even (slowly ) run on "Vista Capable" hardware (unlike all the "real" versions of Vista): https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html Seriously, besides the grossly underestimated hardware requirements (that made in most cases the upgrade process on existing hardware result as a slow as molasses Operating System) the (initial) lack of drivers was a nightmare, and also (cheap) new hardware with the Vista Ready sticker was - generally speaking - low performing (again because the minimal requirements were - as it is traditional with MS - way too optimistic, the rule of the thumb, since NT 4.00 times, has been that you need double the processor speed, and four times the RAM to get a decently running machine). jaclaz

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I also have a copy of the source code but, like you, couldn't really find anything useful. As stunnel is stupidly light-weight and easy to deploy (no real install needed) I'm hoping it will keep me going for a few years yet. Anyway, thanks for your comprehensive summary which should be useful to anyone else researching this subject. Jose Alf also deserves a little more prominence for his work. Ben.

I do think that is where most of us here at MSFN over-exaggerate. Every few years? That is an exaggeration. My newest PC is a Dell XPS 8700 from 2013. Ten years old and still very impressive for a WEB BROWSER. Only the "gamer crowd" would find it unappealing. And again, that is my newest PC. The problem, here at MSFN at least, is the unrealistic view that something TWENTY years old should perform "identically" to something TEN or even FIVE years old. Unrealistic. It would be one thing if the MSFNer that puplicly cries (for lack of a better word) about that 20yr old computer being slow was from a Third World Country - but most are not. Most of it, to me at least, just sounds like the cries of somebody needing to be heard but has nothing to say. It's a gray area, I get it. I disprove of the "throw-away society" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throw-away_society (my DAILY DRIVER car is THIRTY TWO YEARS OLD without a single spot of rust!). Perform a search for "average life of computer" and you will find article after article after article citing three to five years. THAT IS RIDICULOUS! All of mine are two to three times that! But we simply are unrealistic to think a four to five times that should perform identically to a two to three times that. We only have ourselves to blame on how we "react". I personally LAUGH MY BUTT OFF when I take off from a red light and have to take the foot off the gas to hit the clutch, manually move transmission from 1st gear to 2nd gear, and the person behind me has to HIT THEIR BRAKES to keep from rear-ending me! We only have ourselves to blame if we CHUCKLE about our old PC or if we cry and whine and act like a "have not" thinking it 'unfair' that the "have's" have a better computer. Because let's face it, we could all have a better computer if we wanted one. None of these shouts are coming from a Third World Country. Or maybe they are, I don't follow that closely - because I don't want to rear-end anybody.

yeah I decided to keep it.

I just want to make sure I am spared any trouble. When you provide something voluntarily, you don't want to be punished for it.

Thank you for your thoughts and tips! I already read the MPL-2.0 FAQ. As far as I understood all correctly, the measures I have listed should actually satisfy the MPL 2.0 licence conditions: Or, have I missed something? What do you think?

Maybe the expectations were too low. The article you linked to is an opinion by an analyst written while Vista was made available, january 2007, compare with these (written two years after launch): https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1898610_1898625_1898627,00.html https://www.technologizer.com/2009/08/10/sixteen-reasons-the-windows-vista-era-never-quite-happened/ Vista was not a success for Microsoft (no matter if rightfully or wrongly people did whatever they could to avoid it). Windows 7[1] release was accelerated as much as possible, hoping to replicate the success of XP. jaclaz [1] please read as Vista SP3

What would be the easiest way to make a fork of an extension available to the general public without creating a GitHub repo? I already made a proper fork with my own branding and identification. I also kept the reference to the MPL-2.0 licence. And I would provide links. One to the original source files and a second to the changed files. What other information would have to be provided in order to avoid trouble? And what is the most simple way to do this all under the MPL-2.0 licence? Further ideas and opinions are still welcome.

Well as of the RTM release, Vista really, REALLY was a s--t pile. It really was. Slow I/O, badly written display drivers, you name it .... However, SP1 and (especially) SP2 cleared away most of those warts, and by the end, I would agree it performed pretty much identically as well as Windows 7. What was never resolved was management and cleanup of the component store. It became huge. However that doesn't bug me any more. I'm perfectly OK now with an OS taking up 15 to 20 GB of disk space now, where I wasn't before. Why? Because I now understand what the component store does, and why it provides sound stability benefits to Windows. As for Windows 8, funnily enough, I can still update using Server 2012 updates without any "tricks". I was hoping the same for my Windows 8.1 brethren, but no such "exact" luck. But Windows 8 has been exceptionally stable, and a VERY GOOD performer.

Hello to all extension "forkers" or experts! What has to be considered if one wants to fork old, abandoned extensions, which are free and non-commercial, whose code only exists in the form of their xpi file under the MPL-2.0 licence, and which are now exclusively available via the Classic Add-ons Archive or the Wayback Machine? TBH, I am never really sure about things like that. I personally am not really a coder but rather a code recycler, fixer, modifier and batch programmer. Therefore, any ideas or assessments are welcome. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Web sites are not "developed for multi process" browsers or not. There is no header that the client-end tells the server-end how many processors the client has. There is no "serve this version" for single-process, "serve that version" for multi-process. The closest would probably be mobile layout versus desktop/laptop layout. But that's more of a horizontal resolution issue than a processor-count issue (mobile phones are all single-processor, to the best of my knowledge).

PassIFox is a good choice to retrieve passwords from KeePass. Especially if there are several accounts for one website. It works with both New Moon 28 and Serpent 52 (and presumably in Serpent 55, too). However, if you also want to store logins in KeePass, you have to go another way. I actually use KeeFox in Serpent 52 for this. It doesn't work in New Moon 28. Both, PassIFox and KeeFox, require special plugins that have to be copied into the Plugins subdirectory in the KeePass programme folder. PassIFox needs the plugin KeePassHttp whereas KeeFox needs the plugin KeePassRPC. Working combinations for KeePass 2.43 I am using myself are: PassIFox 1.2.2 + KeePassHttp 1.8.4.2 KeeFox 1.8.0 + KeePassRPC 1.14.0 These combinations will probably work with more recent versions of KeePass, too. However, arbitrary combinations between extension and plugin do not work, which is the real reason for those listed above. At the moment, KeePass 2.54 (2023-06-03) is the most recent one and still compatible with Windows XP although the system requirements listed on the KeePass download page are Windows 7 and above. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Thanks for your clarification and contribution here! As I already pointed out, I do appreciate it in any case. To have the correct min and max version numbers in the file install.rdf for each browser is sensible and fine.

The prefs I had to toggle in the past didn't need any restart of the browser. But, you can add a restart button and place it next to your toggle button. I have a restart button which comes with the extension Toolbar Buttons.

Toggle media.autoplay.enabled - A custom button for toggling the Boolean variable media.autoplay.enabled created by AstroSkipper The custom button Toggle media.autoplay.enabled is the same button as Toggle CSP except the changes I already described in my previous post. It's an example how easy another Boolean variable can be toggled by this button. And, I created this version at the very special request of @Mathwiz. I also changed the button images, of course. A green image always means the value true, a red image the value false. Of course, this can be changed and adapted to the user's needs at any time. Here is the download link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/lvsq0ss3xuinxwe/Toggle_media.autoplay.enabled.xml/file Greetings from Germany, AstroSkipper

Likewise ! Thank , I mean it, really.

Likewise ! Thank you all guys, I mean it, really.

Oh really !? thanks for letting me know.

Thank you for the nice compliment !

I forgot to say, she is an ex-model , we've got quite a few here, in France. I mean *not* self-declared model from instagram, she's a real one with a proper education. Still very-very stupid, she is a good person and a friend. I'm actually OK with stupid people. The only thing that worries me is she getting older.

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Choosing a sexual partner 30 years older does not necessarily mean that a girl wants to have a relationship. And if she does, you're nothing but "Big Daddy" again protecting a little girl and spending money for it (for her protection). For that, you have to be "rich". And here we are again, a pronounced father complex.

Stupidity has its roots in the genes. Bad genes ? Stupid.

Stupidity is a very simple term for an extremely complex issue. Stupidity of a healthy person is the result of mainly three different components: Intelligence, knowledge (education) and experience. Each of these components can be simplified (if one does not consider gradations of the component states) as a Boolean variable that knows only two states: true or false, i.e. present or absent. Accordingly, one could examine (at least) eight different cases, but I will not do so here. In any case, stupidity has many facets and causes. We only have to look around in the world and see it everywhere. Sometimes it may be pleasant to encounter it, sometimes perhaps not. Stupidity is a disaster at the moment when tragic decisions for many people are born out of it. And tragically, this happens in the world all the time. So, beside his education, knowledge, intelligence and eloquence, Marcus Tullius Cicero was indeed a very good observer and extremely wise, and that ages ago. Anyway, a girl who chooses a man 30 years older as her sexual partner cannot be an example of stupidity per se, but rather of a pronounced father complex. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Stupid, silly people could be so fun, don't forget this. I mean, if their stupidity isn't too annoying. Let's vote, I'm up for moderately calm stupid people. Though, some raving lunatics are also good, from time to time.

Stupid people are good ! One can make profits. It's simpler to do business, easier to manipulate or create provocations. I noticed it became much easier to find a GF which is, let's say 30 years younger. Is it mandatory for you to have sex with someone who is a super-duper clever academic ? So why do you all sound so negative ? Look at the bright side ! It's life ... We are here to enjoy life, no ?

And I told you, they were like this always ! Read history.

We still have hope. Create your own media and promote the normal view of the world. You're young ! Fight ! I've served my duties for life, I was at the front fighting with commies for several times, including Ukraine, I just got back recently. EDIT : And maybe even join the military and become someone who holds a good rank !

No true. KGB is what , 100 y.o. ? And now look at their history and what they did to the other nations throughout all of their history. Like the natives from Alaska and Causasus.

Toggle GIF Animation - A custom button for controlling the GIF animation on a specific website Toggle GIF Animation is a custom button for controlling the GIF animation on a specific website. A simple left-click onto the toolbar button stops immediately the animation of all loaded GIF images without reloading the page, and the CPU load is back to normal subsequently. A further left-click will start the animation again. Absolutely great especially for computers which are under-performing, equipped with an old, weak CPU! The GIF animation is generally enabled and will only be toggled on the current website by this button. Tested version: 0.3.0, created by Infocatcher. I uploaded the Toggle GIF Animation custom button as an XML file for an offline installation. Here is the download link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/87ua0k6ageqgslz/Toggle_GIF_Animation-0.3.0.xml/file For the installation of this button, the extension Custom Buttons is required which you can get from this post: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183923-extensions-and-custom-buttons-for-uxp-browsers-corrections-modifications-adjustments-and-special-recommendations/?do=findComment&comment=1226328 Cheers, AstroSkipper

@Mr.Scienceman2000 , this is what awaits us . Prison planet. https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2332207-snap-passwordless-login-netgear-printnightmare-ends-spacex-laser-data-beam

I don't use fbibook , but thanks for letting me know ! I read somewhere on the news , it's exactly what russian banks force their clients to do.

Dave , you're welcome ! Instagram uses insane user fingerprinting techniques , I'm just not ok with it . Perhaps this has something to do with their new "anti-bot" protection . I remember just waiting for a couple of days had solved some problems in the past . BTW , I used plenty of methods for browsing ,including NOX , Grids (which was very good!) until the pl@nkers banned it ! They just want everyone on their phones for total surveillance and user data mining/stealing. So I'm taking a break until I find something new . My 360 Browser version had it's own emulation fo their app , but they found how to detect it (quite recently). Until then they were sure I was using their App and all functions worked flawlessly , including uploading , etc.

Tripredacus , it says you're from US , so what about DMCA Section 1201 ? "It's Now Legal to Crack Your PC Games..." - By Marcus Yam at tomshardware.com He writes : "Essentially, it comes down to this: "New DMCA rules make it legal ... People may now rip DVDs to show clips for educational purposes, criticism, commentary and noncommercial videos. People may now legally jailbreak their iPhones and root their Android phones without fear that a corporation will rain down upon them. People may now legally unlock their cell phones. (These first three are mostly the result of lobbying from the Electronic Frontier Foundation.) People may now circumvent the copy protection of PC and video games for investigative reasons. This should be a great thing for PC gamers sick of dealing with the DRM of the games they legally purchased. People may now get past software that's protected by an outdated hardware dongle." P.S. I do not know about other countries. Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/drm-dmca-jailbreaking-unlocking-iphone,10944.html

Installed , didn't help, all the same . Also added VCRedist from 2005 to 2015 x86 and x 64. Perhaps redirection is a no go ?

Hello , I've finished testing this one from your link , well ... no luck . First off , I had your old files from the video , with them nothing happens , just silence. Then a kind soul provided me with the newest ones and this chromium 72 started to show only one error "This application failed to initialize properly (0xc000007b).Click OK to terminate." I have bare SP2 , but I installed some updates , just in case . Platform update , DX11 , Framework 4.5.2 , the same error happens.

Hi , I've tried x64 Chromium ungoogled 84 , 85 , 86 and nothing happens , yep that's right , no errors shown. Also , I've tried some games with this method with zero luck . For example, games with "mono" engine simply tell : cannot load mono. Others just quit in silence, like their process shown for a sec., then quits. By the way , could you please tell me where to read about certificates updating . Much appreciated ! Edit , I had a manual update from MS links done, still the browser tells I don't have the needed certs.

Hello , sadly it didn't work with Opera , I did all aforementioned steps , rebooted , yet it still wants TryAcquireSRWLockExclusive. I even tried older versions , like 60 . I'm using extended files dated July 2020, from the known youtube video.

Hi , so if it's not much changed , it makes no sense to replace it, right ? I'm just afraid of replacing Vista's files , because the sound might get worse overall . One of the reasons I reject all later windows - awful sound quality . Could this be DRM related ? Yet again , the same problem exists in XP (only DTS stereo avaible). What I did today : I've found an updated SP2 ISO (to December 2015). Should be much newer than Win7 RTM 2009 , right ? )) So I installed it ... and guess what - all the same ! Then I took a long breath and installed it on my friend's similar hardware , same too. Then I added "playback devices/supported formats" , registry entries from W7 , now it lets me choose DTS-HD and TrueHD , then I installed PowerDVD and it also lets me choose "HD uncompressed audio" in it's settings , but as soon as I start to play DTS-HD file , it reverts to ordinary bypass setting, I mean DTS (not HD). So one can safely assume : it has nothing to do with updates and/or "playback devices/supported formats" settings , it's a much deeper problem, perhaps Vista isn't capable of playing HD audio at all ,which I find strange. I also find a bit strange that no info could be found ... Edit: Also, not a hardware problem (definitely)