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Fresh XP pic from Corona Lab in Ingelheim in germany on 4 January 2022^^ Dietmar

Has anyone managed to get an AV package working with the new version installed? Panda and Avast are not happy

Do you have a spare monitor to connect to the laptop through a VGA cable? In the best case it is only a screen issue. Cheers.

There is no answer to that. None! You will need to try them all and decide that for yourself. It really boils down to what YOU use your browser for. Some folks play online games - I do not. Some folks require WebGL - I do not. Some folks are heavy into Twitter and Facebook - I've never visited either. Some folks stream Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, et cetera - I do not. Some folks are huge into YouTube - I am not. Some folks use YouTube alternatives that seem to be more problematic than YouTube itself. Some folks stream online audio that some browsers are fine with for half an hour or so but start to skip or stutter if left open all day long. You really need to answer this question on your own. There is no answer. If there were, there wouldn't be so many to begin with. They all have pros. They all have cons.

Thanks, dude! (I could not resist, lol) I will say that when I was attending college (go Boilermakers!), I had a very diverse group of friends. Korean, Vietnamese, Japanese, Chinese, European, African American, Latino. "Dude" is one of those words we use and it will almost always be followed by other cultures asking what that means. Granted, this was also in the 90s and the world is much more "connected" then it was back then. Context is often conveyed not by the word itself but by the entire sentence and often times facial expression is needed. If I go back even further, I went to a Catholic High School and we had a Priest that tought some of our classes. We never called him "dude" but we did call him "Padre". HE felt like that was disrespectful but the more we did it anyway, the more he realized it was more in "camraderie" than anything at all to do with "respect" or "disrespect".

Changed topic title, deleted the dupe/blank posts. Split the "Dude" conversation into Funny farm. https://msfn.org/board/topic/183264-dude/

Best to just be nice to everyone here to be safe. The forum rules are for direct talking but Vistapocalypse didn't use it that way. The word dude has some different types of meaning to different people. In general in the US it is just used towards everyone and no one cares about it. How it can be used in other countries and which of the historical "definitions" or connotations it is associated with I don't know. Such as if the word became known in x country to relate to one of the old meanings such as "person from city/out of their element" and then that country did not go through the word progression that happened in the US, then many TV and movies from US use the term, there may be a different understanding in that country. But in general "dude" is casual speak and can work everywhere but in a professional or corporate environment. As such, there are some people who take offense to the word dude, typically professionals and those in corporate environments, doctors or government people. But no issue for anyone to call anyone dude on the forum.

Reminder - I disable webgl and remove swiftshader ON PURPOSE. If your end-use requires these "security vulnerabilities", then I have already discussed how you can add these "features" back in. As also already discussed, I have no intentions of adding these as default out-of-the-box functionality.

Yes and no. Meaning that surely the (crappy and mostly unneeded and generally speaking misused) CCleaner is the "trigger", but the base issue is almost surely at a lower level. As pcalvert wrote, the Windows 2000 NTFS filesystem is (not much, but IMHO "enough") different from the Windows 7 one that some types of disk access may well create havoc. Besides, even "mixing" XP with Vista in some (not-so-unusual) cases can make all logical volumes inaccessible, only for the record/FYI: A good idea (my personal advice) is to (for a production machine): 1) DO NOT allow the two OS instances to "see" each other, or if you prefer, the two OS's MUST be installed to separate partitions and the Windows 2000 partition should not be able to see the Windows 7 one, and viceversa (you can use a bootmanager like grub4dos to selectively hide at boot time the "other partition") 2) DO NOT use Disk Manager from the Windows 2000 on the disk (provided that the disk has been originally partitioned/formatted under 7) 3) DO NOT use (if possible on your setup) logical volumes (because the XP/Vista Disk Manager bug is "nasty" and it is very likely that the same exist in 2000/7) 4) If you need to exchange data between the 2000 and the 7 use a third FAT32 partition (you will be limited to 4 GB files, though) jaclaz

So you prefer pretty posts about good properties only, not about issues, problems?.. Issues can happen everywhere in life, and also in your builds, you have to admit this... It seems to me that our threads should rather talk about issues we encounter, to be able to improve things, to be able to move forward... that's the progress. And each thread has its author: You, @Humming Owl, @roytam1...these authors rather read their threads (as you already mentioned), so it's logical to post rather what could interest each author. My post above is about the issues (sorry!..) of your builds, so I dare to post here, to make your life easier.

guess what, seem to have found the culprit after reinstalling all the drivers and applications from the start and testing them individually, the only application that was left to test was one that removes junk from the machine such as the CCleaner from Piriform and.... voila! the crash is caused by even just starting CCleaner but there seem to be and other applications that cause such crashes

@VistaLover all the things written above are right, but at the very first pull out the HDD to save your not back-uped data! Screen was frozen but just displayed the last frame, no BSOD? So the CPU should be OK - GPU maybe too, but maybe not. Sounds like Display, RAM or GPU RAM...or motherboard in the worst case. Are there any beeps when you're trying to start? As said above by others and myself, first pull out the HDD then test an external monitor, change RAM (if you have some spare RAM). Hopefully our advices will help you! Oh yes, the front window of my car got damaged by fireworks falling down on New Year's Eve while it was parked in a private backyard. kind regards soggi

I've set in FF52.9 xpinstall.signatures.required to false - so now FF less quiet at its place my Dismiss The Overlay little extension, uff, thank you @Mathwiz! In this FF 52.9 have uBlock v1.13.8, uMatrix v1.0 too, and other extensions ... BUT I don't use this browser anymore, using exclusively (lately..) our chrome builds. None of my 3 Instagram links work here today... give login demand only. PS. In my St 55 today, this Instagram link works (in one tab only!): https://www.instagram.com/tv/CNZX7dWA0iG/?igshid=1tlxn9t5hvfgp - uBlock v1.16.4.26. My two other Instagram links doesn't work today (give login demand)... mystery why. I use uBlock O. in my all browsers for ads and malware only, not for privacy. With privacy lists enabled - no change for Instagram links...

@VistaLover Great advices already by Humming Owl and RainyShadow. You can try few things yourself, to check what could be the problem by a process of elimination. If you have 2 RAM sticks, take out 1 and try starting your laptop just with 1 RAM stick, if it still gives black screen try only with the other RAM stick. Here is a video how to change RAM sticks - How To Add Ram Toshiba Satellite Laptop Increase Memory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vbxHF9w3ZE I only advise not to touch the RAM stick on the "golden" contacts, and hold it on the white labels instead. The advice to try with external monitor to check if the screen is the problem is also good.

Thanks! Instagram is basically a black box to me - no idea how it does what it does - but that's a clue. I too have uBO (legacy version 1.16.4.30), which is likely why the videos work for me. My guess is, uBO blocks some useless tracking script (after all, that's what it's for), and the blocked script happens to break Instagram videos on St 55 but not 52. Probably because it uses some Javascript feature that 52 supports but 55 doesn't (perhaps modules). In any case, installing uBO is a pretty easy fix, and would probably work in vanilla FF 52.9 also. I think to install uBO in FF 52.9, you have to turn off signature verification: in about:config, set xpinstall.signatures.required to false if you haven't done so already. FF 52.9 will show a "nag" in about:addons about the "unverified" add-on, but uBO still works perfectly.

Sorry to hear this bad news @VistaLover Yeah, this year is starting out rough, indeed.

It could be. But this "flickering on a frozen frame" coupled with supposed disk activity... ... points more towards a problem somewhere else. @VistaLover Do as they said - try with external display first. You may need to use a key combination to switch displays, and on many systems these won't work during specific points of the boot process. If you're not afraid of opening the thing, disconnecting the internal LCD cable (whichever end is easier to access) normally forces the output to the external monitor. If this doesn't help, try to confirm that the system is actually working - press Caps/Num/Scroll Lock to check that their indicators toggle. Or see if the disk light is blinking as usual. If it boots, you can try to use Remote desktop/Anydesk/whatever to connect and investigate further. If it doesn't boot, try cleaning the RAM contacts. Well, sh!t happens. Last night there was some kind of faint, sweet, fruit-like smell in my room for about a whole hour before i found its source... I lifted my pillow and there was a big hole on the underside, as well as on the electric blanket below, and on the bed itself. When the smoke escaped, the smell suddenly got terrible. The small plastic box in the blanket, where the power cord connects to the heating wire, was completely burned, lol... heh. Now, i gotta buy another electric blanket before the temps go under...

OT: ...This isn't probably the right place to post this, but since I am/was most active in these threads, here comes my bad news: My cherished Toshiba laptop from 2009, that came with Vista OEM 32-bit originally, has died on me a little more than two hours ago... No previous signs of an impending doom, I was merely browsing (in 360EEv11) when the screen just started flickering on a frozen frame, just out of the blue, and I had to disconnect power to forcibly shut it down... After I put the power back in, the laptop simply won't start anymore, the screen remains permanently black, I can feel some disk activity by touching the laptop, but just that... Sadly, I'm completely clueless when it comes to H/W, can be anything from a dead integrated GPU, a dead CPU or something else (the HDD was in good condition, AFAIAA, replaced last in 2017... Of importance to me is 12 year-worth e-mails contained in Windows Mail, and a ton of other valuable things contained in the internal HDD (I don't have recent back-ups of...) This is me posting from sister's Win7 x64 laptop, via a portable Serpent 52 profile I carry on an external HDD... To add insult to injury, I painfully discovered that "portable" 360EE profiles do not carry with them saved cookies/account credentials for sites, unlike Mozilla browsers... Needless to say I feel very distressed now, this is still the Holidays period during an omicron exponential surge, PC repair shops are mostly closed/half-working... I'll probably have the laptop evaluated by a technician during the coming days, I don't hold high hopes for it to be brought back to life (and at what cost?), all I can hope for is that the HDD is OK and salvageable... This was just a "to let you know" post, 2022 apparently only brought havoc to me thus far... Yes, cr*p like this happens, but now that it has, I'm a total wreck inside... I wish all the best to you, despite...

I'm "mixed" on that, to be honest. I really don't "expect" XP to last 'forever' and I actually support developers that stop supporting XP. But I equally support developers that continue to support XP. I personally AGREE with "official" Pale Moon's decision to no longer support XP. I certainly do not support "official" Pale Moon trying to axe down any developer that does wish to continue support for XP.

I've never actually used "Firefox", strictly speaking. I've used IE6, IE8, GreenBrowser, Sleipnir, SlimBrowser, Opera 12, QupZilla, official Pale Moon 28, Chromium 49, NM 27, NM 28, Mypal 27, Mypal 28, and now 360Chrome. All as "daily-for-everything" browsers spanning months, if not years, but all eventually died out like "Firefox" [as far as XP-support and web compatibility]. I've tried literally dozens outside of that list, but they were more out of curiosity and none of them became "daily-for-everything".

A simple debugger and other Nirsoft app monitoring tools

here's about to showing a boot logo. if you wanna questions? newmark8.bmp