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What are you talking about? Feodor2 is from Ukraine. Roytam1 is from Hong Kong. According to Ukrainian constitution only Ukrainian laws are legal on territory of Ukraine. I'm pretty sure same is in Constitution of China. So any threats of Tobin is absolutely empty. Don't fall to this old american buzz "uuuu, ama goona sue u!!!111". Tobin, you will sue ZERO people in Ukraine and ZERO in China. Because this is different countries then yours. So you can go screw yourself. You can't even ban anyone here, in fact YOU ARE BANNED HERE, Tobin.

I won't get away from Pale Moon either, because their product is a proper browser, but after seeing this war unfolding... now, I regret giving them some money at one point. And I've quit their forum, too. What a missed opportunity to advertise Pale Moon as that ressource-easy that it can even run on an 20 year old Windows XP machine. With a slogan like: "Look, this scrap computer runs Pale Moon. Then yours can run it, too." In Germany, we say something like: "If the enemy is known, the day has structure." This whole action wasn't rationally thought. There is no threat from the tiny amount of people running the XP browsers. It's just to be able to use laws. But laws aren't useful all the times! Dammit Moonchild and Tobin! Which advantages do you hope to get through shredding the Mypal project? Roytam and Feodor2, I'd like you to tell the community about this if you have to get involved in any kind of legal troubles. Maybe some money can be thrown together to a reasonable sized heap then to absorb the financial impact. Of all the projects, your browsers are the most important programs for the long-abandoned operating system to be able to use them as daily drivers.

I think you won't be impressed . Even though they were quite expensive , they aren't for hard core gamers . I prefer German quality , so I always buy Fujitsu Siemens (yes, they were still made in Germany up until 2018, don't know about now). If you want the models , some of them are D3012-a1 GS3 with 16GB DDR3 , D2912-A1 GS2 16GB and I game on a haswell board Siemens Fujitsu D3221-A12 GS2 W26361-W3321-Z3-04-36 , LGA 1150 , DDR3 32GB , it supports SLI . I love their design and quality . none of the Fujitsu Siemens goods have failed me yet. (for decades). Also , got several 24 inch Fujitsu Siemens premium monitors 16:10.

so "the larger work" is mozilla, not palemoon. BTW M.A.T. is trying to involve me in that issue, but I'm not going to get in that.

Due to the doubts and the incipient erroneous articles published on the Internet saying that Windows XP does not have updated browsers, I open this post indicating the complete information on all the companies or software programmers that make versions of browsers compatible with Windows XP. But first it is necessary to clarify some fundamental concepts. The first is that today there are only 2 Internet browser projects for Windows. The Chromium project and the Mozilla foundation. No, the basic existing browsers are not Google Chrome, Opera, Firefox and Microsoft Edge. Opera abandoned its own "Presto" browser engine in 2012, Microsoft stopped developing its own browser known as Internet Explorer in 2015 & and later stopped developing its own motor in Edge in 2019. Now both the Opera browser and Microsoft's browser are based on the Chromium project. An open source database for developing a web browser, maintained by various companies that later use the source code to create their own version of the browser with additional features. Google develops Chrome and Microsoft develops Edge, same as multiple companies using the same codebase as above, for example Opera. None of these companies develops versions compatible with Windows XP but many others do, for many they are unknown companies but in China they generally work with Windows XP due to the delicacy of the manufacturing processes and the independent control provided by this operating system. By not needing direct connections with Microsoft and therefore with the US Government. There are many Chinese browsers based on both Chromium and Mozilla, the Chromium versions come with telemetry for the Chinese Government to know which websites you visit (Google also does it for the USA and stronger) but there are modified versions that have this capacity removed . There are also browsers from other places but they are less developed such as Otter Browser or RetroZilla. Based on Mozilla we can also find updated browsers even for Windows 2000, although for this system they have not passed the beta phase as forks of K-Meleon and PaleMoon developed by Roytam1. Sin embargo for Windows XP you can find several browsers modified to work on this operating system, whose versions are continuously updated. These come in English and many can be patched in another language. For Windows XP I recommend using the English Chromium-based versions, especially 360 Extreme Explorer modified version without telemetry, due to their speed compared to Mozilla-based browsers. User interface can be found in English and in Chinese. Multilanguage only come with Kafan MiniBrowser (except installer), Maxthon and UC Browser. If we want to view the web pages in other specific languages, we must also modify the language in which we want to view them by default. To work with Chromium it is essential that we understand the Windows certificate system, since the https web pages display depends on our Windows certificates being up to date. While for Mozilla-based browsers it is not necessary, since they are integrated into the browser itself and it is not necessary to update them independently. To update the Windows XP certificates, download a package updated by the Japanese @blackwingcat on its Windows Legacy Update website: http://win2k.org/wlu/wluen.htm We go to the manual update section and look for certificates. Unzip the file with 7-Zip or WinRar and then install it. Note: The files on this website come in a format that I have not been able to use in Spanish XP, even discussing it with the author. They may work in other languages but if not don't worry, unzip with 7-zip and install. Below I indicate which are the best developments for Windows XP and its base code version in April 2022. BASED ON MOZILLA. THE BEST BROWSERS ARE THESE: By @roytam1 (Goanna based): -New Moon (Pale Moon fork & Firefox fork) -K-Meleon (K-Meleon fork & Firefox fork) -Serpent / UXP basilisk52 (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) -Serpent / Mobieus basilisk55 (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) All are versioned by Roytam1 and lack telemetry for the use of any Government, this is their website to download: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser And in this post on the MSFN forum you can ask questions: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182647-my-browser-builds-part-3/ He also has forks of: -Artic-Fox (MAC fork) -Borealis (Borealis Navigator fork - Netscape Navigator fork) -IceApe (IceWesel fork) And special versions for SSE 1 processors. Automatic unofficial installer for roytam1’s browsers by @i430VX http://i430vx.net/files/XP/RoyTam Browser Installer.exe (this may not work on multiple languages or personalized installations) By @feodor2 Quantum 68-78 based (NEW): -MyPal 68 https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/ Goanna based (project is down on September 2021): -MyPal (Pale Moon fork & Firefox fork) https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal http://www.mypal-browser.org/release -Centaury (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) https://github.com/Feodor2/Centaury/releases THE FULL LIST OF CHROMIUM_BASED BROWSERS IS THIS: -2345 Explorer (Chinese only) http://ie.2345.cc/ (for PC) https://app.2345.com/ (for phone) -360 Extreme Explorer (webkit adapted to Blink + Trident (IE according to web compatibility) 360 Extreme Explorer is the current name of the international version of the Chinese 360 Secure Explorer. Not to be confused with the name "Browser 360" which refers to an old international version whose latest version is 7.5.2.104 and it is based on Chromium 31 https://360-browser.en.softonic.com/ International versions based on Chromium 78 or higher are called "360 Extreme Explorer", in this post on the MSFN forum you can ask questions: https://msfn.org/board/topic/178380-extreme-explorer-360-chromium-78-general-discussion Download Links: Official international version (web english version only download old version 11): https://browser.360.cn/ee/en.html On Septembre 2021 web for english version only on Chinese (careful, uninstall 360 also only on Chinese) https://browser.360.cn/ee/ 360 Extreme Explorer versions with telemetry removed: From versions 12 and 13 (Chromium 86), for 360 Extreme Explorer to correctly display the certificate on some https pages, and their style sheet, it requires activating compatibility mode with Windows 2000 by right clicking on the executable file .EXE. @Humming Owl modified versions: -post on MSFN: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/ -folders: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/fuwfohw2b75ot/02-10-21 https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version Arcticfoxie modified versions (aka @NotHereToPlayGames modified versions): https://msfn.org/board/topic/182993-360-extreme-explorer-arcticfoxie-versions/ Version R8 for low memory computers: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184515-arcticfoxienotheretoplaygames-360chrome-v1351030-rebuild-8/ Modified in China: (several users report that the telemetry is not completely canceled, that the deletion is partial) http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/360chrome.html Modified in Russia: (several users report that the telemetry is not completely canceled, that the deletion is partial) https://rsload.net/soft/browser/17362-360-browser.html https://lrepacks.ru/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html Forum in Russian to modify the official international version: http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=5&topic=49673 The current version for the Chinese market is called ... -360 Secure Explorer also known as 360 Secure Browser The official version can be downloaded here (only in Chinese language) http://browser.360.cn/ And here is the modified version in China: http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/360se.html -DC Browser v.4 (Chromium 75) Note: With the official version I have experienced multiple blue screens, the modified version I have not tried yet. Official version: http://dcbrowser.cqttech.com/home @Humming Owl modified versions: -post on MSFN: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/ -download folders https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gc3rbagwt99pr/DC_Browser_Modified_Version -Kafan MiniBrowser aka MiniBlink aka MiniChrome (Chromium 87) Official version multilanguage (install only Chinese): https://browser.kfsafe.cn Forum: https://bbs.kafan.cn/forum-298-1.html Maximum perfomance: 2 GiB RAM: 5 tabs open 8 GiB RAM: 25 tabs open @Humming Owl modified versions: -Post on MSFN: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/ -Download folders https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ytdozcs6wco9x/Mini_Browser_Modified_Version -Liebao aka Kingsoft Cheetah Secure Browser Official version: https://www.liebao.cn/ Change Chinese language to English: https://malwaretips.com/threads/liebao-cheetah-browser.381. Portable version https://www.portableSoft.org/down/3022/ -Maxthon (Blink + Trident + Webkit) (Chromium 69) Official multilanguage version: * https://www.maxthon.com/ * Version 6.x is not compatible with Windows XP. * Version 5.x is the latest compatible with Windows XP. MaxThon 5.3.8.2100 Beta (2020-01-06): https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%0%C2%A0%C2% A0V-5382100-R214 / MaxThom 5.3.8.2000 Release (2019-10-24): https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%0%C2%A0%C2% A0V-5382000-R213 / -QQ Browser (Blink + Trident) Official version (care, better not install, it looks like a virus / spyware that makes a lot of advertising in all your computer) https://browser.qq.com/ -Sogou Explorer (It only exists in Chinese language) Official version: https://ie.sogou.com/ Version modified in China: http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/sogouexplorer.html. Both on Windows XP and on Windows 10 it gives me the following error: w10 error xx183 cannot create a file that already exists -UC Browser (Chromium 54) This browser has been discontinued, after being accused of stealing user data. The latest version for Windows (7.0.185.1002) is from the year 2018. Official links have stopped working in some countries. Official version multilanguage: http://www.ucweb.com/ucbrowser/download/ Alternative download: https://www.filehorse.com/download-uc-browser-for-windows/ Modified version in China (it is possible to change the language to English after navigating the menu in Chinese): http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/ucbrower.html -TS Browser (Chromium 75) Official version: http://tsbrowser.xiangtatech.com It seems to work as well as 360 Extreme Explorer but I haven't gotten it to read the updated certificates. OTHER BROWSERS FOR WINDOWS XP -ArtisBrowser (prevents the user from copying anything from sites) Copy extensions to the browser profile, many of the extensions it will work. Firefox based browser, which apparently prevents the user from copying anything from the sites, although not found it to be the case. It doesn't work for all websites, although it does work on 'some' sites where the newer modified Mozilla type modded browsers don't work as well... maybe it's related to the API... Many extensions work. Link that determines the operating system you are using: https://artistscope.com/artisbrowser/artisbrowser-download.asp Link that downloads the latest version that works on Windows XP: https://images.artistscope.com/download/ASPS_Browser_install_XP.zip -Lobo Evolution (Java browser in Alpha phase) This is a current fork of the Lobo browser that was discontinued in 2009. Tested the latest version 3.0, it works exaggeratedly slow. Official Downloads: Github (last updated version) https://github.com/LoboEvolution/LoboEvolution/releases Sourceforge (only up to v.2.0) https://sourceforge.net/projects/loboevolution/ Original Wolf of the Year 2009: https://lobobrowser.org/ -Netsurf (experimental without Javascript) https://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/windows/ -Otter Browser (Opera Classic - Qt5) https://otter-browser.org -Opera 12.18_45 unofficial (mod 06.11.20) (russian original but english is possible) https://www.upload.ee/files/12483022/Opera_Unofficial_Portable_12.18_45.zip.html (link is down) alternatives download: https://disk.yandex.ru/d/HbQfEL8dnx_c7A https://yadi.sk/d/ANkjyZ6Hfws34w With certificates (zip password "111"): https://www.mediafire.com/folder/xndaaefaebnib/Browsers Instruction for menu Opera with english language https://msfn.org/board/topic/182794-updated-browser-list-for-windows-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1208594 Forum: https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/172922-windows-xp-2021-system-build-modern-pc.html http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8570 Forum certificates: https://forums.opera.com/topic/9630/opera-12-17-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-settings-not-persistent/9 -RetroZilla (Gecko 1.8.1 fork) https://github.com/rn10950/RetroZilla/releases/ Also compatible with Windows 95Ç -Tor Browser 7.5.6 unoffial updated internal components, with Tor 0.4.5.8 (Release May, 2021). English and Russian packs. https://www.upload.ee/files/13208675/TB756_en_0458.ZIP.html (English) SHA256: a22a94bd1d4f23b6b1538ce3cddc3555e0c67fe423d80f4e541b8c8a409f3dc4 https://www.upload.ee/files/13208684/TB756_ru_0458.ZIP.html (Russian) SHA256: d0036853c3fd6de568f274f10a63fa4b46db0c0bc7669045f41c2f37f8a20fb9 Forum: https://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=5834#20 https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/172922-windows-xp-2021-system-build-modern-pc.html BROWSERS FOR TEST WEB PAGES -Utility Firefox Collection http://utilu.com/UtiluMFC/#download -Utility IE Collection http://utilu.com/IECollection/#download CLIENTS THAT DISPLAY MODERN WEB PAGES IN OLD BROWSERS, THANKS TO A PROXY SERVER THAT CONVERTS WEB PAGES INTO IMAGES -Browser Service (requires own Linux server): https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice/releases/tag/v0.9.2.2 Instruction: https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice -WRP (requires own server): https://github.com/tenox7/wrp/releases/ Instruction: https://github.com/tenox7/wrp SEARCH ENGINE THAT WORKS IN OLDER BROWSERS -FrogFind (showing only text) http://www.frogfind.com PAGES ARE BEING CREATED WITH VARIOUS UPDATED INFORMATION -XPforever https://xpforever.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page -retrobrowser.com http://retrobrowsers.com/windowsxp -Retro System Revival https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/p/final-versions-of-working-software-on.html MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CURRENT WINDOWS XP OPERATION Visit MSFN forum Windows XP section: https://msfn.org/board/forum/34-windows-xp/ This post is available in Spanish here: https://foro.elhacker.net/windows/listado_de_navegadores_actualizados_para_windows_xp-t510585.0.html

A person told me that he got the XP Explorer and the XP classic start menu in Windows 10 changing some files or doing something like that, but desktop and other things don't work or are buggy. I expect he'll send me these files, and tell here my experience.

palemoon goal was also remove many of antifeatures firefox had and that os why it runs better on many hardware. It wont focus bloat, rather to do what web browser is designed to, view HTML documents. Only thing I would consider "bloat" is sync feature but atleast it wont push it to my face all the time. Mozilla turned bloat at one point and palemoon kept is optimised code instead of adding useless featues. Many say Palemoon render engine is bad because it is slow and cannot play DRM videos . It is slower and wont work on some new site not because it is bad and old rather since Chromium optimised technologies. It was like back in day peoples said Netscape and Opera did not support latest web standard that ie did while IE standards were broken to begin with. Also Palemoon devs did not bother with EME since it is antifeature And I think gansangriff meant their decision artificially block XP and being hostile torward anyone even thinking it. Well Tobin was hostile torwards openbsd devs too. Feels like they do not want anyone use their browser. They should update their slogan to "Your browser your way (UNLESS you want use legacy firefox extensions, since I want artificially block them, want run it on anything expect teh latest and greatest windows since we artificially block older versions I mean they cannot run and roytam1 never did make it work on xp or anything or want make your custom build which case we will hunt you down like did to openbsd version and Mypal.)

i own a fujistu laptop, actually 2 but they are the same model (li2727) one of them has the chipset fried (i don't know why, i guess it happened because of a power shock) but the batteries are amazing! after like 14 years one of them holds for about an hour and the other one 10 mins

Finally ! You're welcome , enjoy !

OK, this link seems to work at a first glance...

(offtopic) For people under oppressive regimes, dissidents, journalists, the military, etc. it's a valid and legal option. From Wikipedia: Sure, there are people who abuse it for nefarious purposes. But there are enough that have a good reason to make use of it.

@win32 , 373.19 is a very special case , indeed : 100% official Vista support . It still has the Vista block and it doesn't call for memcpy_s in ntoskrnl ! By the way, it is actually newer than 375 , I think . Why I think so ? Some file versions are similar and it has the telemetry . And as far as I remember, the 375 (official nvidia driver) was the first to incude it ! Pascal , no , I do not have any Pascal , also I sold my Maxwell recently . But Dereck Draker (also a Fujitsu Siemens owner) says it works with GTX980 and it is very fast. As for me , I tested it with the Fujitsu Siemens laptop (obviously), the card is the first version of GT820M , also I can confirm it works on GTX Titan (the first titan) , GTX780 , GTX780ti [the first version]. My neighbour says it works with DX9/DX10 games with his 1070 , but I can't confirm . I mean , there is no reason for him to lie to me, but I just can't go inside his house and test myself. Yet again , I can give it to you , no prob. . But only to you , since you also own a Fujitsu Siemens. EDIT : Forgot to say , there were a bit older drivers (several actually) like 372.93 , 373.06 supplied to us , and they all work with Vista . And you know 372.70 was the last one.

Not "as" open. But there are always "loopholes". That screencap says to PM to create an account - don't you have to have an account in order to PM?

Well palemoon developers hates tor and other anonymisers. Peoples who block tor does not realise some peoples have genuine need to use it. Maybe I could start recommending against palemoon since they hide source code from public and may have something to hide on code and recommend use it forks instead. That is not lie, if they do not let everyone access source code and could maybe make developers come back to senses when get bad image

Still work for me ! Archived drivers from the official Intel page. http://web.archive.org/web/20171008142049/https://downloadmirror.intel.com/20758/a08/GFX_Win7_32_8.15.10.2761.exe http://web.archive.org/web/20171008142245/https://downloadmirror.intel.com/20758/a08/GFX_Win7_64_8.15.10.2761.exe The forum rules say I must include the source page too : http://web.archive.org/web/20171008141948/https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/20758/Graphics-Intel-HD-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-Vista

I have not donated any project for long time since all I did went undesirable path. They discourage peoples from donating to actually good projects since fear from wrong path. It is because supporting legacy os kills "professional look" for some reason. It is some twisted image on many peoples head that professional only run latest and (not) greatest operating systems and softwares and other only stupid diehard peoples run anything older. And many peoples try to be like that. I remember one place how they spoke how some stupid peoples without knowledge want still run XP when support ended and how companies think their benefit when dropping sw support and how professional uses Windows 8.1. Well I am professional and work with servers and run XP and 98lite on my personal machines for most part and can say running XP requires much more knowledge than buying laptop with win10 preinstalled, downloading chrome to watch cat videos on facebook. I got knowledge and experience run OS I want as daily driver. And running old hw and os does not mean all software must be old. I am also running linux dualboot on many of my machines where new Windows wont even boot and works great. And if professionals do not use old OS why many CNC machines I seen on production runs Windows 98, 95, 2000 etc? Because software been many times designed for those and system and upgrade would break them. Those are used do very precise PROFESSIONAL work. I have seen lab equipment running Windows 3.1 on 486 since it used ISA card and seen water quality analyser lab computer running Windows 95 and those two are not professional systems? I got nothing against running latest os just want peoples realise "Professional" image is made by companies to increase sales

I do not understand Feodor's moves -hopefully, he'll read some of what was said. But I am sure roytam1 won't fall for the same bs.

Clean, just created profile, didn't need any settings: Then uploaded with my NM27 :P

New NewMoon 27 Build! 32bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20210904-d43e6f58e-xpmod.7z 32bit SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20210904-d43e6f58e-xpmod-sse.7z 32bit noSSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20210904-d43e6f58e-xpmod-ia32.7z 64bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win64-git-20210904-d43e6f58e-xpmod.7z source repo: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27 repo changes since my last build: - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - pointer style (8365db72a) - remove stackDepth check not found anywhere in official gecko (98f65d05e) - Bug 1134198 - Call Debugger::onPop at the point that caused the frame to pop before any unwinding in the JIT. (r=jandem) (5aea98ae6) - Bug 1189750 - Remove unused JM-related PCCounts counters. r=bhackett (7410480af) - Bug 1198245 - IonMonkey: Lock helperthread before finishing ionbuilder, r=jandem (0f28ef66a) - Bug 1188620 - Use PersistentRooted for asyncActivation roots; r=fitzgen (4f6ae0e92) - Bug 1190446 - Update Coverage information in Baseline. r=jandem (95935926e) - Bug 1188129 - Use a universal constructor to create and init PersistentRooted; r=jonco (75db7ea8f) - Bug 1187767 - Ensure PLDHashTable's generation is always updated when the entry store is modified. r=froydnj. (e49936dad) - Bug 1189156 (part 1) - Don't use enumeration style for PLDHashTable::SizeOf{In,Ex}cludingThis(). r=froydnj. (3152ab914) - Bug 1189156 (part 2) - Don't use enumeration style for nsTHashtable::SizeOf{In,Ex}cludingThis(). r=erahm. (de21442b7) - Bug 1189156 (part 3) - Factor out FontTable better. r=jfkthame. (afdee9bd7) - Bug 1189156 (part 4) - Don't use enumeration style for nsBaseHashtable::SizeOf{In,Ex}cludingThis(). r=erahm,jfkthame. (32d72520f) - Bug 1189156 (part 5) - Add FontEntryTable typedef and factor out some related code. r=jfkthame. (9983134a9) - Bug 1137437 - move security/apps/ cert header generation to moz.build; r=mshal,keeler (2f7abb37d) - Bug 1180993 - Part 3: Correct use sites of functions which return already_AddRefed. r=ehsan (2a6289b6a) (d43e6f58e)

In most cases, yes, but there may be issues with temp-folder based installers that are spawned from another installer. By the end of September. I have close to enough new features to justify a new release, but I think I can stuff some more in. And I also need to test. I have every K32 function implemented for both architectures, SetDefaultDllDirectories fixed on both archs, ResolveLocaleName (basic implementation) and soon some other things. I hope to get many basic x86 applications running. The kernel32 wrapper itself is probably more compatible than it was at another point in the extended kernel's existence, as it doesn't rely on the original kernel32 having SetDefaultDllDirectories (which was added to Vista in 2013). But that will soon not be the case, as it will call functions from my NTDLL wrapper, and that will need a modified ntoskrnl to work.

One of my computers blew up. Which one you may ask? Of course the strongest one. The XP power machine from 2007, using a Pentium D dual core. It was one leaked capacitor, then two, then three (all being placed around the fat CPU cooler)... the system became more unstable. The computer could be used longer through removing components from it, like the graphics card (and using the onboard graphics), removing the second hard drive, removing all except one RAM... But finally, it stopped turning on. Dead. Thankfully, a local store soldered some new capacitors for 30 euros to the board. For that amount of money, I could have bought a more powerful desktop computer here. Anyways! It's a powerful computer that's worth using. Hasn't the Intel Management Engine spyware inbuild like in newer hardware. Has a proper BIOS. And can basically do everything on the web.

Your contributions are great in my book. Keep on doing them.

A very wise decision, why give them an extra opportunity to disparage you. I think I should rephrase what I was trying to say before. I think people might want to read the Github thread to be aware of what's happening - but only those who a) have something useful to add that hasn't already been brought up and, b) can restrain themselves enough to remain polite should go over there to add their thoughts. They can of course also do it here, but the Github issue is more of a place of record. I myself might have met a) in the early stages but b) was pretty doubtful. At this point, a) is also doubtful. @XP2003 Yes, I've seen it. Gotta "love" that one guy actually demanding jail time for @feodor2... I'm reminded of a quote from an R. K. Narayan book about Indian mythology, where he describes asuras (demons) as "strong-minded, intelligent, and capable of offering arguments to establish that they are righteous, and all others are evil-minded". He then adds "They succeed - but, [...], only for a while; sooner or later they are overcome." Let's hope for that. (It's not my style to compare people to demons, but the comparison comes to mind when someone is so incredibly insistent to enforce the letter of the law at the expense of the spirit of it, for very questionable reasons and with clearly damaging cansequences.)

Nor should you...you haven't done anything wrong in this or any other case, and your health and well-being should always come first. Thank you for all of your great work over the years! Rest assured--it is never in vain, and never taken for granted!

actually impossible. https://hackaday.com/2018/09/27/can-you-take-back-open-source-code/ (P.S.: I'm not going to jump in this mud fight)

I'm feeling: Optimistic

Just adding that I too have modified security.tls.version.max to 4 and have positive results using Firefox ESR 52.9.0

And yet, changing security.tls.version.max to 4, closing and reopening FF 52 esr does work... I don't understand why it didn't work for you (notice that I'm spoofing the NT version as 6.1, however, if that makes any difference).