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I never owned a slow Vista laptop myself. Would you do me a big favor Mr. Dixel? Please never again quote one of my posts for any reason? You may rest assured that I will henceforth show you exactly the same courtesy! Thanks!!!

If you hate Windows 7, stay out of Windows 7 threads. When a person asks "how can i fix this" we should never answer with "change the OS" unless it is specifically a software related question. For OP, my recommendation is to get the OS to 4 GB RAM, or if the system supports more than 4 GB RAM physical, get it to above that and use a 64-bit OS. Would like to know what type of operations are being done on the system that make it slow. If you are talking about using websites, then this is a totally different situation. As a daily user of a 32 bit Win 7 (specs are higher than yours but) I can tell you that some websites are just too heavy. For example, Youtube works fine but sites with heavy scripting can lock up or crash the browser. Examples of this are sites that continuously load into RAM such as Facebook, Twitter or say... Yandex image search. In my experience, once a browser's memory usage hits around 800 MB on a system with 3.2 GB RAM (4 GB installed on 32bit OS), things can get very slow or things will stop working. It is this experience that I am even considering of replacing my own Win 7 system.

... I think they have been candid about the type of "continued support" in the May 17th 2018 article below: https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/191650-malwarebytes-3-frequently-asked-questions/?tab=comments#comment-1243649 i.e. their "support" is limited, in practice, to just offering def updates, via a separate development track (they also make mention of "other maintenance upgrades", but only an actual (paid) user of the app can testify whether such "upgrades" ever took place... ) . Still, if you compare them to other vendors cited in this thread (who decided to cut-off updates on their XP/Vista compatible products), they do hold a higher place in my heart, because they acknowledged: See there, if it's still "possible" for them, why did the rest bail out ? One sane person would think that when an OS becomes unsupported by its vendor, third party Security Products should become even more effective in protecting the integrity of that OS (and their vendors could generate additional income in the process ); what did we see instead? Most AV vendors leaving "high and dry" the users of said OS (which may well have been paying customers until then) ...

With default settings, DEP is already effective for all applications that have a flag in its executable header that it's compatible with DEP. Your typical internet facing applications most likely have it set already. If you check the .exe with Process Hacker's PE Viewer, it should have NX compatible listed under Characteristics. CPU must support the feature and I've read that the motherboard/BIOS settings may prevent it from being usable, even when supported by the CPU. First Pentium 4 CPUs based on Northwood core don't have it, later Prescott based ones do. On AMD side, Wikipedia suggests support started with Athlon 64.

I've always thought (assumed) that if Malwarebytes 3.5.1 were compromised in any way that would make it ineffective in protecting an XP system, its paying users would be informed. As it is as long as its pattern files are being kept up to date that's good enough for me. I was sorry that I could never get Avast (or AVG) to work properly on my system, I never found out why. Malwarebytes was the fallback, and I've never had any cause to regret that.

@VistaLover your information is accurate as always! I quote myself rather than you only because I feel that your defense of Malwarebytes was disproportionate to my perceived attack. What bothers me about the specific Malwarebytes link I cited is that it seems to exploit the ambiguity of the term “support” in order to sell more Malwarebytes Premium licenses. Call me old school if you like, but if a software vendor hasn’t issued a new version that works on your OS for 3 years, then IMO that vendor cannot properly be said to “support” your OS (unless there are truly two separate development channels, in which case your version number should change occasionally). The world’s largest third-party AV maker (Avast/AVG) seems to agree with my point of view. A few months after the Malwarebytes post cited by VistaLover, Avast promised to continue definition updates (but nothing else) in a post with the honest title End of support for Windows XP/Vista (which btw has official download links for version 18.8). This did not prevent Avast from doing something rather significant on behalf of 2008/Vista in June 2019: issuing a micro-update for improved compatibility with Windows 6.0.6003 (which is somewhat OT here in the XP forum). I hope I don’t sound too much like an Avast fanboy. I certainly wish there were numerous good options for XP/Vista, but the pickings are getting rather slim nowadays I’m afraid.

Of course you could have simply consulted (or resurrected) your February 3 thread on exactly the same topic. Considering you just joined MSFN in January, you seem to have great difficulty remembering all of your previous posts - perhaps because you have tried at least four different versions of Windows since then?

okay it seems like you're not objective cause you are windows 7 hater (I looked on your profile) my core 2 duo t5870 is 2 ghz at base clock! I simply asked why are you recommending vista when we can't use it? (security reasons and office) I don't have any experience in kernel stuff or programming. so extending something isn't my cup of coffee. I would buy new laptop if they were in stock (I already said that) like paying 800 dollars for pentium laptop is something I simply refuse to do. We already upgraded the ram to 4gb so it seems to be little better and I'll try to reinstall windows 7 32bit as you suggested and I'll not update it. (even though that will limit my ram to 3 gb and something?) Please try to not attack me for having older laptop... I mean you could be windows 7 hater but this was inadequate.

I know for a fact that the component package version hasn’t changed in two years, and it most likely hasn’t changed since 3.5.1 was released on May 8, 2018. Therefore I cannot take Malwarebytes seriously when they claim to be “committed to continue support for Windows XP and Vista“ - but don’t get me wrong: Definition updates are certainly better than nothing! Since this thread has been bumped, I will summarize some of the bad news I’ve heard in the last several months: As pointed out by VistaLover in a recent post, versions of McAfee antivirus products that were old enough to work on XP/Vista have reportedly been unable to receive definition updates since January 1, 2021. Earlier in this thread, legacy versions of ESET were occasionally mentioned as an option. Unfortunately, an ESET article indicates that SHA-2 support is now extremely important. If we have any recent ESET users here, please tell us about your experiences! (As I have mentioned once or twice in the Vista forum, ESET 12.x might perhaps be an option for a Vista system with certain Server 2008 updates adding SHA-2 support.) Norton had threatened to cut off definition updates for their XP/Vista “maintenance mode” version after February 28, 2021, but evidently changed its mind by March 8. I don’t recommend or even know much about Webroot, but have come across their official download page for the final XP-compatible version. None of the products I mention above have free versions!? My own preference and suggestion would still be Avast Free 18.8 (or equivalent AVG version, which has the same engine). Of course that would not prevent you from using Malwarebytes Free for on-demand scanning if you wish. I know that Dave-H couldn’t use Avast on one of his XP systems, which is too bad because testing by independent labs showed that Avast Free was significantly more effective than Malwarebytes Premium or Webroot, and nearly as good as paid versions of Kaspersky, Norton, etc. (Kaspersky Free has never been tested AFAIK.)

I am not. Ask the Linux community! (before or after joining it) they will no know much better than people on MSFN. jaclaz

For Vista x86, my policy has long been to keep DEP enabled for all programs as a general security precaution. I have reason to believe that DEP once saved me from a FlashPlayer exploit, and does not interfere with MBAM Free. Of course DEP only protects against threats that cause buffer overflows to force execution of malicious code, and IDK whether any such threats have targeted legacy MBAM specifically.

You can buy COAs on the secondary market, either used or NOS FPP. It is a license violation to transfer a license to different hardware but it isn't illegal. If you are a individual who purchases and uses a license, there is no problem but caveat emptor if a used key doesn't activate. There is no recourse with the seller or Microsoft in that case. If you are a business, you can fail auditing if you are found to be in violation of the license (or contract should you have one) so it is not recommended at all for a business to buy used licenses. A sealed System Builder or Retail FPP is perfectly safe from any of that. As for the forum, you can ask for a product key but no one is allowed to post one that isn't an install key.

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You mean you stole it? jaclaz P.S.: I guess that with this I will enter the list of people not allowed to quote your posts

No, I can't claim that title. Or at least it was never given to me, lol. I suppose I can be considered as such for the 9x forum, but unfortunately I can't take on such a role for the older-NT family as well. I'm doing well to manage to keep up a daily check in on things.. RL issues are really taking a toll on all of my "computing" endeavors these days. - (And while I agree it may not be ideal to have so many "pinned" threads, I don't see the need to start changing things just for the sake of changing them. It's been that way for a long time and hasn't been an issue... Why the sudden "wave of discontent?" .. not to say that it could not/should not be improved, but just saying..)

<OT> yeah I'm fine after 2nd dose, just feel additional tiredness for 2~3 days after doses. </OT>

I believe that VMware's drivers (like vmx86.sys) are missing functions at the moment, and some Windows 8 functions will be needed as well. There is also a version block that prevents VMs from launching starting with 11.0.23 and 12.0.1 that will also have to be defeated. I hope to accomplish this in a few months. It will be very ironic to have VMware 16 working on Vista hosts, considering that its guest additions don't support it!

Because now Vista has the marvelous Extended Kernel , created by the talented MSFN member @win32 , so all modern browsers do work. If you don't like what I suggested , go and use what you want. Yet another solution would be buying a new laptop for your mother . Core 2 Duo is what , like 15 years old ? I wanted to place this solution as the first one in the previous post , but avoided doing so because I'm polite . Buying a new notebook is exactly the thing I would do in this case , even if I had to sell the parts from one of my rigs. Regards. EDIT : Took a look at that 800mhz CPU. This kind of hardware is simply out of question for any modern OS . 2GB of RAM is not enough for Win 7 . I remember such processors were too slow even when they just came out , so folks installed win 2000 or XP 32 bit to get some performance out of such laptops. I think you may need an advice from someone else.

Here are a few I've found to be must-have's. Disable AutoRefresh -- https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/16079-disable-autorefresh/code Halt! -- https://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/review/125995 I personally use the one-liner version v0.0 but replace whitelist @include's to run on ALL http and https because I want the OPPOSITE effect of blacklist versus whitelist, ie RUN ON ALL until I tell it not to. Disable Javascript setInterval and timers -- https://kplug-list.kernel-panic.narkive.com/65G6iuYC/disable-javascript-setinterval-and-timers Redirector (v0.1 post at bottom of page) -- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3168944/how-can-i-redirect-some-page-with-javascript-in-greasemonkey

Alright. I rid of the BSOD using the driver you linked to within your reply. 2000 is currently formatting the drive. Will report back later when done. EDIT: I got it successfully installed and booted to the desktop. That driver did the trick! Thanks for your help!

Advanced user does not block threats through browser-level ports anyway, but uses a firewall. It's just new chrome advertising.

I'd put my money on the old horse. This mouse has the balls (well one at least) to operate reliable after probably 20 years. Only disadvantage is the cleaning process, with has to be done sometimes when there is too much dust on the inner rolls. Hopefully the computer mice industry hasn't forgotten how to produce good products that last longer than a year!