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I made a video guide detailing another way to update 2000, XP, 2003, and Vista, it may be useful to you guys.

There's a "million" reasons that give that cert warning. Proxy server, revoked certificate, lack of WinXP updates, et cetera ad nauseam. google.com.hk shows up perfectly fine for me. Also, your screencap shows an instance of Mypal / New Moon / Pale Moon running -- what does it show for google.com.hk? And if you Mypal / New Moon / Pale Moon is NOT using a Proxy, then make sure that 360Chrome is also NOT using a Proxy.

Windows 10 is the worst because of its scheme to make computers dumber than they actually are. You can't even undo this change without modifying system files. Even after that, there is still a fair bit of the OS which is unfinished, even 6 years after release. Windows 7 is probably the best (may be some bias!) because the UI was simple, elegant and easy to use. All your settings are in Control Panel, file explorer is simple, the start menu isn't littered with ads, the lock screen isn't full of ads, and you have control over your PC. They even give you diagnostic information on blue screens so you know what actually went wrong, but I could say that the Windows 10 one also brings the same amount of information, just less explaining. Windows XP was also pretty nice, although I never really used it much. Every OS will suck when it comes out. Believe me, XP did, Vista did, 8.x did, and 10 did even more. But all of them fixed their issues in service packs / feature updates. XP SP2 was one of the best, Vista SP1 fixed a lot of issues as well as 7 SP1. 8.1 itself was a fix to Windows 8.0. I had hopes that Windows 10 would, but now here we are, 10 releases into Windows 10 and people are still angry about it. While most people have fallen to the gigantic corporation that is Microsoft, I can definitely see that there is a community of people standing their ground here. Unfortunately, Windows 10 has locked me into its ecosystem after my almost 6 years of using it, so I am basically at a loss. Any move I make is a compromise, such as migrating to Linux or downgrading to 7. A lot of people don't like 10. They didn't use it willingly, something forced them or influenced them to, unlike previous versions of Windows.

In the light of MS removing all non-SHA2 downloads recently, I was wondering how it would affects updates for Windows 7 before the SHA2 update/requirement (KB4474419) and in general, on a unpatched Windows 7 system. Does update still works without KB4474419 installed? Or all Win7 updates before SHA2 requirement are removed?

Hey, I've followed MSFN for a while now as a lurker but I've finally made an account as I have a deep interest in using Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 8.1 as daily driver operating systems and just those operating systems in general. So I look forward to my time here

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Only the roots.sst file has the same content, the other 3 files have changed.

First error indicates that ci.dll didn't get updated; second indicates that something happened to winload that shouldn't have (that error can appear if the header checksum isn't set properly, though i did do that). nointegritychecks attribute must be set to yes in the bcd store for the Vista boot volume. Then, in that case then update level is important. As for Edge, it appears you obtained an x86 version. The x64 version does not work presently due to increased reliance on newer security/crypto APIs.

I can confirm your updated winload and ntoskrnl files are indeed working and palemoon.exe is showing os and subsystem as 6.1 yet it still opens, well done.

Thank you so much for that. I tried it, and actually got offered an update, KB969084! I never thought I'd ever see the yellow shield in the system tray ever again!

Since the thin which happened to me with Windows 10 in a vm, I won't use it anymore! And if older Windows versions will be droped and become obsolete, I'll go to Linux!

Yes great choices; I would suggest using Snappy Driver Origin personally as from what I have heard it is more reputable. Certainly is a good idea to use a variety because some catch other drivers that one may miss. Although, it's VERY important to keep in mind to make full OS image backups before installing drivers lest you end up with a blue screen of death. As sometimes driver software will hand you drivers that may not be completely compatible out of the box with XP x64; if at all that is. You can use a free disk application called MiniTool Partition Wizard Free 11.4. Just use the feature Migrate OS to SSD/HD Wizard and then from there pick option A or B. (The reason I suggest this older version is because the last time I checked later versions dropped that feature from the free product). Hmm, I have yet to play around with 360Chrome, but it does look promising! &&~ Oh and Avast AV is also a great choice Indeed. Well, here is another option; I have found that Comodo Internet Security Premium 11.0.0.6802 seems to work quite well on XP x64 and still scans properly; also it still receives AV / Web Definition Updates. Seems to be the last truly stable and functional version now (At least from my tests). Since many versions of 12 have some bugs / compatibility issues with XP x64 or have completely dropped support altogether. (Make sure to download and keep Ciscleanuptool x64 around in case you wish to properly uninstall Comodo in the future). &&~ Also, if you are looking for another nice layer of security; I have found NoVirusThanks OSArmor works well with XP x64 and is free for XP users. Well, I wish you luck @VistaEX and if you need help with something I'm sure you shall find it, just make sure to do as much research as you can and lay out a plan; that way it will be more or less a smooth process.

No, you can't. Did you ever read the rules or are they like stop signs to some people? Here's a piece of advice, never engage in criminal activity. Loose lips sink ships.

Have you verified in https://msfn.org/board/attachments/ that you still have eligible attachments space? The cumulative size of your MSFN file attachments must not exceed 1.95MB... I use imgur myself: https://imgur.com/upload NB: if you prefer the older GUI, much lenient on older hardware, create the following two cookie files { "domain": ".imgur.com", "expirationDate": 3808238400.6028, "hostOnly": false, "httpOnly": false, "name": "frontpagebetav2", "path": "/", "sameSite": "unspecified", "secure": false, "session": false, "storeId": "0", "value": "0" } { "domain": ".imgur.com", "expirationDate": 3808238400.6028, "hostOnly": false, "httpOnly": false, "name": "postpagebeta", "path": "/", "sameSite": "unspecified", "secure": false, "session": false, "storeId": "0", "value": "0" } then import and protect them via a cookie extension (several exist); once the photo upload succeeds, from the opened page choose Copy -> Get Share links -> BBCode (Forums) -> Copy : [img=https://i.imgur.com/uosmAtz.jpg] However, I suspect many of your issues are caused by your use of NM27, which isn't fully compatible with MSFN 2021...

I've come to the opposite conclusion over the years. Sadly most files at external hosters tend to get lost very soon, while forum attachments survive as long as the forums. Unless of course, if some users exchange them all the time for lack of space. Perhaps a mixed strategy would be best, external hosters for only temporarily interesting stuff, and forum hosting for longterm important screenshots. And of course, I keep seeing tons of giant full-screen shots which could easily be cropped to the relevant parts. (Little plea: everyone using those &%$ embedded iframes for crossposting, I mean linking between 2 msfn posts, please consider adding additionally a plain normal link. Otherwise such links are completely invisible and inaccessible for lots of users, especially with older versions) (bugtest edit-4) .

A couple things to note here. 1. Why do you need iTunes? Make your music library local if you haven't already and ditch it. 2. 7 is definitely on its way out, but 8 is still kind of a special case since it will be receiving official security updates for a couple more years still. The real breaking point will be drivers, but if people can still find a way to make Windows XP work in this day and age, I don't think that will be too much of a problem. As to Discord, I use that in a browser and on my phone anyway, so no big loss there at all. NVidia/AMD would be a big factor, yes, but the 30 series of current NVidia cards all support 8.1 and even 7, and I know at least with NVidia, they don't start dropping OS support until at least a new line is launched. They could have ditched 8.1 for this 30 series, but they did not, so that also gives 8.1 a few more years of life behind it. 3. DirectX12 has been a bit of a thorn in the side of legacy Windows users, but Vulkan is starting to catch up fast, and Vulkan is OS independent. Perhaps the biggest standards that 8.1 is really missing is support for the latest Bluetooth standard of 5.2 (meh) and Wifi 6, or 802.11ax (more of a problem, but also not a big deal). 4. Finally, even if all this didn't apply, it's still not all doom and gloom. Quite the opposite. There's a reason that Valve has been on a rampage with providing Linux support. They got mad at Microsoft a long time ago and didn't like being beholden to them (think it started with the bul***** UWX), so they're now funneling their money and efforts into Linux to give it a massive boost in compatibility. And it's helping. A lot. This is also probably why Valve dropped Steam support for Windows Vista and below. They believe in and want those people on Linux instead. Back in the day, Linux used to be frustrating to use, and compatibility equally so, but those days are long gone, and in some instances, Linux actually works BETTER than Windows. And even further, it's only going to improve. The kernel has shown itself time and time again to be absolutely amazing for old hardware while still retaining full support for the latest hardware and drivers, now easily auto-detecting what needs to be used and doesn't and seamlessly applies the correct drivers without any input needed. At the very end of the day, even if Windows 10 didn't suck, we all knew this was gonna happen sometime. OSes get old. New standards are developed. That's just what happens. But just because 8.1 will reach end-of-life sometime is not the end of the world since Linux is now the looming behemoth over Microsoft's OS division, and if Microsoft doesn't shape its a** up, that penguin is gonna start stealing a lot of f****** market share.

Where specifically do you observe a greater speed in Windows 2000 compared to XP with superfluous services, system file protection, and the visual theme switched off? The boot time in XP is shorter, with a similar size of startup programs and drivers(!). For a weird reason, there is a significant delay when deleting files in Total Commander under Windows 2000. I don't have much experience with Win2k and am probably missing more important differences. I get this WOW experience using any old OS, especially freshly installed, on a modern hard drive.

It might be a good idea to test again on a new installation of Windows 7, now that Windows Update has been shut down for XP/Vista again.

Thank you. You know, I couldn't for the life of me make sense of replies like "The update is not applicable to your computer". https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-7-update-error-80244019/c220c4eb-115a-4703-b580-70b36f2c2b0e An answer in perfect accordance to article 4569557 was given, but no success??? So I tried to break Windows Update by removing KB4474419. Nothing happened. Ran Windows Update on a fresh virtual installation of Windows 7 SP1 - found updates without making any preparations... I know that both updates become indispensable going further, but Microsoft's claim of "Will be impacted" regarding Windows 7 SP1 is just plain incorrect. Windows 7 SP1 has experienced no change at all by the 2020 SHA-1 endpoint discontinuation. Also note that it just makes no sense advising to fix Windows 7 RTM and SP1 the same way. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4569557/windows-update-sha-1-based-endpoints-discontinued Regards, VZ

For clarity, are you saying that you have installed Windows 7 within the last month, and Windows Update was able to patch it to January 2020 standards without manually installing any update pertaining to SHA-2? Edit: And btw welcome to MSFN!

Windows Update works. You need the SHA-2 updates. Our domain controller at work runs Windows Server 2008 R2, and so when the Zerologon exploit went public, I was naturally concerned. Well, turns out, last time it was updated was: Never, so I had some fun with that. I installed the SHA2 updates and let WU run overnight, and after maybe 6 reboots it was finally up to date with all patches through September 2020.

Not at all. In full contrast to Microsoft's announcement at help article 4569557, Windows 7 SP1 remains unaffected whatsoever by the August 2020 discontinuation of SHA-1 based endpoints. Regards, VZ

I don't know. I just installed Windows 7 x64 on my computer. After installing SP1 from DVD and installing the Update Rollup from disk, I attempted to install Nvidia 452.06. It refused to install until after I had installed the SHA-2 updates: KB4474419 & KB4490628. Nvidia was kind enough to provide direct download links in the error message. Edit: Upon further research, it turns out I had installed the Servicing Stack April 2015 Update (KB3020369), which is required before installing the April 2016 Convenience Rollup (KB 3125574-v4).