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On 8/16/2022 at 8:17 PM, VistaLover said:

Photonic's author made sure to use Win7+ specific CSS code during its development :(; many of its internal CSS scripts have the below code:

@media (-moz-os-version: windows-win7) {

which makes sure the theme (is designed for and) properly runs at minimum on Windows 7, only!  Additional specific code

@media (-moz-os-version: windows-win8) {

and

@media (-moz-os-version: windows-win10) {

configures the theme on Win8/8.1 and Win10 - there's absolutely no provision for the theme running under XP and/or Vista, which are the target (i.e. most frequently used) OSes for Serpent 52.9.0 users...

At least this time it's not Google causing trouble!

I'm guessing, from the "-moz" prefix on the media queries, it's Mozilla this time - probably unintentionally too; the idea was probably to let Web designers give their sites a look "compatible" with the standard theme of a user's OS (so on Vista/7, a Web site could have an Aero look, etc.) But it also allows Web designers to make their sites unusable on any OS they dislike, as long as a Mozilla-derived browser is used. Just make everything hidden unless Win 10 is detected! And UA spoofing is useless, since the browser itself is determining the OS version and applying the CSS accordingly. I'm surprised MCP didn't use this CSS trick to make their sites useless to XP/Vista users running Serpent/New Moon/MyPal back when MAT was there!

Might be a good idea to find a launcher that can fool the browser into thinking it's running on a Windows version other than the one it's really running on, just in case this becomes a bigger problem over time.

On 8/16/2022 at 8:17 PM, VistaLover said:

Fortunately, its install.rdf file is compatible with St52, so it doesn't require any modification to install the theme there...

Naturally, St55 does require install.rdf to be modified. But I've gotten quite used to that by now; once modified it installs and looks fine in St55. Naturally on Win 7, I get the Win 7 "look," which doesn't really match my "Classic" (Win98-like) theme! Still, my only complaint was that everything got way too big for my taste. It's perfectly usable.

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I want to report with sudden problem that i met on https://www.huffpost.com/  with Serpent and New Moon. Many articles there took many minutes to open and it took 100% of CPU time for like 5-6 min.

Examples that i found today:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ben-stein-devin-nunes-truth-ferris-buellers-day-off_n_63029f6be4b0f72c09d874f3

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-on-pause_n_63026c48e4b0e323a2567963

    Both articles open like i describe it. Before for many years Huff work correctly on this browsers.

So what's going on? IS it browsers problem or creators of huffpost make some BS changes to site?

 

 

  

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1 hour ago, Rod Steel said:

I want to report with sudden problem that i met on https://www.huffpost.com/  with Serpent and New Moon. Many articles there took many minutes to open and it took 100% of CPU time for like 5-6 min.

Examples that i found today:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ben-stein-devin-nunes-truth-ferris-buellers-day-off_n_63029f6be4b0f72c09d874f3

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-reboot-on-pause_n_63026c48e4b0e323a2567963

    Both articles open like i describe it. Before for many years Huff work correctly on this browsers.

So what's going on? IS it browsers problem or creators of huffpost make some BS changes to site?

Same problem as you with Serpent 52/55, NM28 and Mypal 29.3. CPU at 100%, waited for about one minute and then "killed" the browser...

Your links are working OK with ArcticFoxie v11, v13.5 and Mypal 68.

 

1 hour ago, Rod Steel said:

 

  

 

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Working fine here with Mypal 68.

user_pref("general.buildID.override", "20100101");
user_pref("general.oscpu.override", "Windows NT 10.0");
user_pref("general.useragent.compatMode.version", "102");
user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win32; x86; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/102.0");

I'm saddened to have to say this (of beloved Serpent) not everything is working anymore ...:unsure:

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6 hours ago, XPerceniol said:

Working fine here with Mypal 68.

user_pref("general.buildID.override", "20100101");
user_pref("general.oscpu.override", "Windows NT 10.0");
user_pref("general.useragent.compatMode.version", "102");
user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win32; x86; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/102.0");

I'm saddened to have to say this (of beloved Serpent) not everything is working anymore ...:unsure:

 

Right you are.

The problem of handling cookies is getting worse with New Moon & Serpent.

One more website:  

https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24SPX&p=D&yr=0&mn=3&dy=0&id=p35612672029

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22 hours ago, Rod Steel said:

want to report with sudden problem that i met on https://www.huffpost.com/  with Serpent and New Moon. Many articles there took many minutes to open and it took 100% of CPU time for like 5-6 min.

Can't replicate. But I restrict scripts. Even allowing for scripts in huffpost (alone, none of the load of script the page loads with it), I can see the news (not the pictures, but that will probably can be resolve with further ematrix tweaking).

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@roytam1 :

Upstream UXP issue #1977:

https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/issues/1977

Upstream implementation:

https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/commit/28e73defa3021293bfd220bbceed04d04fd169e7
https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/commit/8a10b7bf8b45952f862f07842d0efb12c4feff04

"Your" implementation, custom branch of your UXP fork tree:

https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commit/707d74421937e75e0c0581d6ac9facbd83dd20ea
https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commit/0c5c349ca688b879c587a7509eea88de46fcc1d1

In file "modules/libpref/init/all.js", upstream have:

+// Whether we should play wave files opened in a "media document", i.e. wave
+// audio opened as top-level documents, as opposed to inside a media element.
+pref("media.wave.play-stand-alone", true);
+				

while you have:

+// Whether we should play wave files opened in a "media document", i.e. wave
+// audio opened as top-level documents, as opposed to inside a media element.
+pref("media.wave.play-stand-alone", false);
+

i.e. "they" default to "true", while you default to "false"; why? :dubbio:

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7 hours ago, VistaLover said:

@roytam1 :

Upstream UXP issue #1977:

https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/issues/1977

Upstream implementation:

https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/commit/28e73defa3021293bfd220bbceed04d04fd169e7
https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/commit/8a10b7bf8b45952f862f07842d0efb12c4feff04

"Your" implementation, custom branch of your UXP fork tree:

https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commit/707d74421937e75e0c0581d6ac9facbd83dd20ea
https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commit/0c5c349ca688b879c587a7509eea88de46fcc1d1

In file "modules/libpref/init/all.js", upstream have:

+// Whether we should play wave files opened in a "media document", i.e. wave
+// audio opened as top-level documents, as opposed to inside a media element.
+pref("media.wave.play-stand-alone", true);
+				

while you have:

+// Whether we should play wave files opened in a "media document", i.e. wave
+// audio opened as top-level documents, as opposed to inside a media element.
+pref("media.wave.play-stand-alone", false);
+

i.e. "they" default to "true", while you default to "false"; why? :dubbio:

because "false" is default behavior before this change.

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2 hours ago, tigerindigo said:

Greetings. Can someone help me and explain how to change language in NewMoon. Original language packs from Palemoon.org doesn't work or i am doing something wrong. Should i do it manually? Help

Hello @tigerindigo! You need a language pack for New Moon/Pale Moon 28.10.x. The German one works for me with the most recent version of New Moon 28 without any issues. Here are two links: https://github.com/JustOff/pale-moon-localization/releases/tag/28.10.0_RC1  or https://archive.palemoon.org/palemoon/langpacks/28.x/28.10.0/ link.gif
For changing the language you have to either edit manually the language ID via about:config or use the extension Pale Moon Locale Switcherhttps://addons.palemoon.org/addon/locale-switcher/

Cheers, AstroSkipper ecrire-ordi.gif

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1 hour ago, AstroSkipper said:

either edit manually the language ID via about:config

i.e. "general.useragent.locale" from "en-US" to whatever the installed LP is (I suspect "ru" for OP...); NB: A browser restart is required for the change to take full effect!

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