Vistapocalypse

You posted July 30 that “Microsoft Edge is working fine,” but have you been able to install Microsoft Edge? If yes, please post details. Online setups might require recent Chrome or Firefox as default browser?

There is an old post Compatible hardware with Windows Vista, and I’m afraid AMD only supported Vista up to RX 300 series. ☹️ Obviously you could run Windows 7, or find an older GPU that was supported on Vista.

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Evidently yes. There is an unsolved thread at another forum by a Vista user who followed a YouTube video by @i430VX to get Windows Update to work. It sounds like it works for everything he wants except updates for Office 2010 SP2: https://www.vistax64.com/threads/svchost-exe-using-100-of-cpu-after-installing-ms-office-2010-sp2-update.305905/

Have you tried Avast 18.8 with the most recent version of extended kernel?

Good to hear that MS fixed your issue @VistaLover. I googled around but found no similar reports. One thing to note: Server 2008 only has Windows Defender if Desktop Experience is installed. Otherwise, System Center Endpoint Protection would be the MS security solution for enterprise customers running 2008 SP2, and it looks like MS will end support for the old SCEP version on July 12, 2022: https://redmondmag.com/articles/2021/10/11/system-center-2012-support.aspx?m=1

@PRB You might want to try again with Firefox now. I just saw a report that 52.9 and even Opera 36 are now working again. If you can confirm that, it means that Microsoft reverted the JavaScript changes and the issue no longer exists (at least for the time being). On the bright side, a number of XP and Vista users have now heard of MyPal for the first time (and there are other websites where 52.9 no longer works very well).

There have been a few reports that the older MyPal 29.3 (based on Pale Moon 29) is sufficiently modernized to solve the specific issue that @PRBhas pointed out here. It can still be found at https://www.mypal-browser.org/. It would not be surprising if roytam1’s Serpent 52 or New Moon 28 could also cope with this change, but I am unable to test myself.

After reviewing your link, Juhn Jac is almost certainly correct: Outlook Live recently started using up-to-date JavaScript that Firefox 52.9 cannot deal with because its JavaScript engine is 5 years old. Most PC users of the world will never encounter this issue because they are running newer versions of Windows that are still being supported by major browsers. If you want to continue running Vista, you must either change your email or change your browser. The most up-to-date JavaScript engine of any browser that supports Windows XP or vanilla Vista belongs to Extreme Explorer 360 version 13, based on Chromium 86. If you prefer Firefox-based browsers, then the MyPal 68 beta is worth a try - but you might not be able to download it from GitHub if Firefox 52.9 is the best browser available (JavaScript again). Such browsers are thoroughly discussed in this subforum: https://msfn.org/board/forum/201-browsers-working-on-older-nt-family-oses/ Another possibility for Vista x64 users is the extended kernel for Windows Vista that is discussed in other threads here, which would enable you to use very recent versions of Firefox that do not officially support Vista.

Of course the names of wars were not so standardized in the past. It occurs to me that the Seven Years’ War (1756-1763) could quite accurately be called a world war. American history textbooks mentioned the French and Indian War when I was young, but that was merely the North American theater of the Seven Years’ War. I once read a book by a German historian who called it the Second Silesian War, which is apt from a Prussian point of view but would obviously never catch on in England or France.

WinClient5270 just posted for the first time in ages, and he does have a suggestion: https://msfn.org/board/topic/175262-last-versions-of-software-for-windows-vista-and-windows-server-2008/?do=findComment&comment=1214417

Hello my friend! I told you what I thought of Putin a few years ago: Most definitely still a dangerous adversary. Some hold the opinion that World War III has already begun, but I can only hope that viewpoint is too pessimistic. About petrol: There is obviously a limit to how many major oil producers can be sanctioned at the same time. The previous U.S. administration (which I was not a fan of to say the very least) decided to back out of an international agreement with Iran, and furthermore imposed sanctions on Venezuela. The present U.S. administration is now scrambling to reverse those policies. Even Saudi Arabia has been somewhat on the West’s naughty list following the brutal assassination of Jamal Khashoggi in 2018, but now we must supplicate the Saudi crown prince because Putin has hit number one on the list. It might seem like a pointless game of whack-a-mole, but I suppose it is preferable to a world war. Of course my post is OT, but these threads have a long history of OT discussions. I haven’t actually used Vista for a long time now, and no I did not downgrade to XP, so I guess I can make do without MSFN if need be. I wanted to take this opportunity to say goodbye to my friend VistaLover. It was an honor to be among the last sane people who were running Vista!

Thanks. I have actually become accustomed to using my iPhone for virtually everything now - in fact I don’t think I have posted here using any other method since early 2020. But I do love history, and Vista is definitely history.

@D.Draker No personal messages either. I suppose I will have to disable notifications.

@D.Draker Please do not quote me again ever. I have come to realize that WinClient5270 was very wise, and my New Years resolution is to forget about the problems of using Windows Vista in 2022. All forums (not just this one) are now dominated by people who are either rude or mentally ill (it is hard to be certain when they barely know English). My Vista hardware sits in a closet awaiting a refurbishment that it will probably never get, since running Vista no longer strikes me as a good idea. Happy New Year!

Please do not mention me for no reason. I have no plans to install Vista on Haswell or newer (and it sounds like you don’t either). I also have no plans to install ESU updates on Vista, since I have no ESU license for Server 2008 and I am not a cybercriminal. (Server 2008’s EOL was in January 2020.) Nevertheless, it appears that I reacted favorably to that September 7, 2020 post, as did win32. You left out part of it though: Do they really say “dude” in France? In America, only id*** speak that way.

Related thread in the Web Browsers forum: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182991-firefox-broke-aero-intentionaly/

I do not use that old browser, but authentication of certificates requires TLS 1.2. This old Opera post looks like it might be helpful: https://forums.opera.com/topic/9630/opera-12-17-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-settings-not-persistent

But browsers may end support for 8.1 at the same time as 7, just as they ended support for Vista at the same time as XP, and for the same reason: Relatively few users remaining.

Google added an Editor’s note here some time ago, and also an Important message here. Anything further is just speculation at this time.

I would imagine that “proper updates” are basically Internet Explorer 11. If IE does not support TLS 1.2, then your OS does not support TLS 1.2. A joke at Vista’s expense? I never used OneDrive, but Vista users at MSFN have known how to add TLS 1.2 support for a long time: https://msfn.org/board/topic/176902-enabling-tls-1112-support-in-vistas-internet-explorer-9/.

Well win32 said August 27, 2020 back on page 2 that he was “working on a Haswell+-specific issue, which is completely unrelated to the Ryzen problems.” I may have “overreacted” a bit to your post, but I awoke in a generous mood.

I didn’t think there was much that Vista users could do about this at the time of your post. However, discussion in the extended kernel thread on November 7 revealed that .NET 4.6.2 now officially supports Server 2008 SP2! (4.6.0 was formerly the highest officially supported version for 2008, and it remains so for Vista.) No workaround is needed to run the latest 4.6.2 installers, however they have sha-256 digital signatures now. Edit: I just found that this was mentioned at .NET Framework 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1 end of support FAQ: I use .NET Framework 4.5.2, 4.6, or 4.6.1 on Windows Server 2008. What should I do? Previously .NET Framework 4.6.1 and earlier versions supported Windows Server 2008 but .NET Framework 4.6.2 and later versions did not. As part of this end of support update .NET Framework 4.6.2 has been updated to include Windows Server 2008 as a supported platform. Customers using .NET Framework 4.5.2, 4.6, or 4.6.1 on Windows Server 2008 should plan to move up to .NET Framework 4.6.2.

I am curious which update that was? If it was a Server 2008 update released in April 2019 or later, then uninstalling it might have entailed downgrading from build 6.0.6003 back to 6002. (I never tried to downgrade by removing updates: only by restoring from an image.) I also wonder if you installed the servicing stack update as recommended by Microsoft?