Vistapocalypse

I should have been more specific: Firefox 52.9 x86 installed its own h264 decoder. If you are attempting to use Firefox x64 on XP x64, then you are out of luck because it required Windows 7. But if your issue involves Vista with extended kernel, then you need win32’s mfplatsetup.

Hi legacyfan. Firefox 52.9 installs its own h264 decoder and does not need a codec pack. (Roytam1’s browser builds need third-party decoders, but I don’t think his instructions call for installation.) Are you trying to watch YouTube videos with Firefox or what exactly?

That’s another program that requires .NET Framework: https://neosmart.net/wiki/easybcd/system-requirements/ Unless you have a program that actually requires .NET 4.8 (and actually works), downgrading your .NET to a version that actually supported Vista (4.6.0 officially, 4.6.1 unofficially) would seem to be called for. I also wonder if you have installed the extended kernel? (This is not an extended kernel support thread, but MSFN does have such a thread.)

Nothing older than KB4040973 (September 2017)!? There are two possibilities: (1) That particular update (perhaps in combination with the others installed on 1/14) superseded ALL earlier updates for .NET 4.6, including all that were released while Vista was still under extended support. Or else: (2) Windows Update cannot be relied on to update .NET 4.6 on Vista even with the MDL hack. Attempting to investigate (1) quickly produced a headache. There is no KB4040973 in the catalog, however KB4041086 is apparently the same update, however Package Details say it was later replaced (which might be why it isn’t in greenhillmaniac’s post-EOL repository), however it did indeed replace some earlier updates, however the replaced KB numbers don’t match VistaLover’s screenshot above and they skipped June 2017? I’m giving up on this myself.

Yes, CPU-Z should work on vanilla Vista (not sure about realtemp). Looks like win32 confirmed the problem on 29 Jan (see page 1 of the thread you are obviously familiar with at another forum).

One OT post begets another, then another. The OP has half a dozen or more browser builds to support, but this is a good place to comment about religion? Fourteen pages down, 186 pages to go for Part 3.

Thanks for clarifying that. Apparently it doesn’t really matter which Server 2008 monthly rollup is installed then (so no point in quibbling about the meaning of “maxed out”), although there might perhaps be a minimum? I also wonder what version of .NET Framework 4.x you have installed (if any)? Installing versions that did not support Vista might be possible, but this thread has long since convinced me that it isn’t really a great idea.

Welcome to MSFN. It was not difficult to find a filehippo download page, but it plainly states, “the free version contains adware from third-party partners.” Malwarebytes could perhaps take care of that, but the page further states, “While DAEMON Tools Lite can be considered safe to use, there are concerns around a service called MountSpace that the developers introduced to capture user data.” A quick search indicates that the software has had a bad reputation for years, so I will post no link and instead suggest that you look for alternative.

I suspect you may have too many Server 2008 updates. For whatever reason, win32 has not chosen to support the “January 2020” update level (which I assume is where greenhillmaniac’s repository stops). I would like to know what @burd says (since he has actually done it: I’m just an interested reader running Vista x86), but I think you should install only the Server 2008 updates pointed out by R3n. Edit: While I appreciate the reaction, burd’s next post convinces me that I was mistaken.

It is not clear what you did wrong. You have omitted minor details, e.g. was Vista fully updated to April 2017 EOL before you installed sha2 support? Once you have “upgraded” to Windows build 6.0.6003, I don’t think it is possible to retroactively install missing updates for 6.0.6002 (but I never attempted it and might be mistaken).

YouTubers should generally take Google’s browser advice, which does not include any version of Internet Explorer (although IE 11 is still usable AFAIK): https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/175292?hl=en We had a thread about IE9’s inability to playYouTube videos in 2018/2019, and XP diehards did suggest installing Chrome Frame: https://msfn.org/board/topic/177749-ie9-doesnt-play-youtube-videos-anymore/?do=findComment&comment=1160023 Google ended support for Chrome Frame on February 25, 2014 and recommended uninstalling it. I believe it depended on FlashPlayer, which is now officially EOL (but there has been discussion in the XP forum about how to continue using it if one is truly determined). Those running Vista x64 with extended kernel can most easily satisfy YouTube’s requirements by using Chrome. Recent versions of Firefox require certain Windows 7 files to play h.264 videos, but win32 has also taken care of that with his mfplatsetup. Even for YouTubers running vanilla Vista or XP, better options than Internet Explorer are readily available (but will become more scarce whenever YouTube deprecates Polymer v1). Getting back to IE9, the most significant tweak that is possible is Enabling TLS 1.1/1.2 support in Vista’s Internet Explorer 9. You would get a lot less “Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage” errors if you implemented that, but you shouldn’t expect too much from this 10-year-old browser.

You gave that workaround two months ago on page 28 of this thread, so don’t be offended if I don’t “like” it a second time. As for myself, I think I can manage to avoid visiting a “specially crafted website” with IE9, since I never use it at all anymore. Edit: I almost forgot to ask, Have you had any success installing .NET Framework updates for Server 2008 SP2 that have been released in the last year or so?

Thanks for screenshots that clearly show Logitech G HUB 2021.4.3830 on Windows 8.1 and that the version was released on May 6, 2021. I found a May 10 post in a thread about Windows Vista with extended kernel with a screenshot showing the same version, and would assume that the version also works on Windows 7 (or do you still say it won’t install there?) Edit: Found an April 15 post with screenshot showing that 2021.3 was earlier intended to be the last supported version, which probably explains why the “Choose OS” feature was set up to point Windows 7 users to that version (still not fixed at this time). One post below that, there is a report that 2021.3 works on Win8.1 but not Win7 (odd, since it evidently works on Vista with extended kernel). Apparently, the NEXT version of G HUB is going to require Windows 10. June 6 Edit: Here’s another post in which a G HUB user says that 2021.4 works on Windows 7: https://msfn.org/board/topic/181612-wip-windows-vista-extended-kernel/?do=findComment&comment=1200671

You really think that’s the first thing a newcomer should be advised to attempt? I don’t think so. (He basically needs a better browser than Chrome 49.) But if he decides to take your advice, then he should begin by installing IE8 (having mentioned IE6 in the first post). Will IE8 be a good browser after doing all that? No, and there are only a few TLS 1.2 cipher suites for it. (On the bright side, the cipher suites would then be available for Chrome 49, and I suspect we might have a Chrome diehard on our hands.)

Welcome to MSFN. I have reviewed all of your posts. As you have correctly guessed, Chrome 49 has no cipher suites for TLS 1.2. The simplest solution is to install Firefox 52.9.0. Here’s a link where you can download an offline installer for the UK (en-GB) language version (although it might be rather Yank of me to assume that Australian English is more like British than American, but there is no special Australian version): https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/52.9.0esr/win32/en-GB/ You might have to use your Win8.1 to download, then transfer to your XP and/or Vista systems with removable media to install. Later on, you may want to consider roytam1’s Firefox-based browser builds, or perhaps Extreme Explorer 360 (which is Chromium-based).

This is interesting, but there might not be many Windows 7 users who have avoided installing SHA-2 support as long as you did - particularly if they use security software. (I believe dencorso uses Microsoft Security Essentials on his Win7 systems, so he has needed SHA-2 support since 2019.) This Malwarebytes Support article has a legacy download link for users who prefer to avoid Windows updates. In Settings, one would need to deselect “Check for program updates when checking for database updates” (at least that’s how it reads in the much older Malwarebytes version I use on Vista).

I do not have an ESU license for Server 2008 SP2 and have not personally attempted to install any ESU updates on Windows Vista, but the .NET updates reportedly cannot be installed anyway, so Vista’s .NET is already effectively unsupported, including 4.6.2. Even if that obstacle can be circumvented, why would Microsoft continue to release .NET updates for Server 2008 SP2 after April 2022 when 4.6.0 was the last .NET version that officially supported it?

The OP does not trust direct download links, and the Microsoft pages include relevant information. I doubt that very many are lacking this update anyway, which was really the point. Thread ends here ___________________

Another incorrect statement that led to more useless efforts on my part to clarify.

No. As for my qualified prediction of May 10, I seem to recall that the top line of the changelog formerly read, “Changes between 3.0.13 and 4.0.0.” But now it reads “3.0.x” even though 3.0.14 has not been added to the log? Speculation: Perhaps auto updating was purposefully disabled to prevent XP/Vista users from downloading VLC 4.0, but has now been “fixed” because VideoLAN has decided to postpone the release of 4.0 and prolong support for 3.0? In any case, I am pleasantly surprised by VLC’s continued support for XP/Vista.

At this Logitech Support page, did you click “Show All Downloads,” then “Choose OS” Windows 7 or Windows 8, then click “Download Now”?? It is more than 39 MB, so I do not think it is an “online installer.” Good luck!

VLC 3.0.14 has been released to fix VLC 3.0.12 and 3.0.13 auto updater issue.

The above statement was actually incorrect, and I therefore jumped to an incorrect conclusion about the last specific version number to support Windows versions older than 10. I regret the confusion.

If a way is found to use WMP 12 on Vista, I hope a way can also be found to add the Advanced Tag Editor from WMP 11 that M$ unwisely removed. (We don’t ask for much around here, do we? )

That page is 12 years old, and their download link leads to a Deviant Art page that doesn’t exist.