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  1. As Windows 8/8.1 never caught on in the corporate world, I expect history to repeat itself. Not only in the case of Chrome, but I'm sure several other applications will drop support for Windows 7 and 8.x simultaneously, as with what happened back in the early-to-mid 2010s with Windows XP and Vista. There may be an outlier or two that does officially support 8.x but not 7 (there were actually several, where applications supported Vista+ but not XP), or there may be some programs that, despite officially "requiring" Windows 10, may continue to run on Windows 8.x anyway, but I wouldn't count on it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if I had to guess, Windows 8.x is more related to Windows 7 when it comes to APIs (at least on the desktop/win32 side of things, not UWP) so I'd say if something doesn't work with 7, it won't work with 8.x either unless it officially supports it. I would argue that Chrome support for Windows Vista was dropped even further back than that, with the release of Chrome 41 in March 2015, when Vista users were royally screwed over. This was the first version of Chromium/Chrome to lack a Windows Vista-exclusive build, when Vista users were simply thrown onto the XP version which caused a lot of Vista-exclusive APIs and features, most notably Windows Aero, to no longer be utilized. This was done apparently "due to lack of user feedback from Vista users", but I still believe they did it to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" so they wouldn't have to worry about supporting anything older than Windows 7. Still makes me furious to think about to this day. As Vista is much more similar to Win7, delivering its version of Chrome to Vista users would have made much more sense and would have made everyone much happier, but alas...
  2. No longer happening for me as of this evening. Seems the issue has been fixed
  3. Like Ripcord, Telegram is also based on QT (except a slightly newer version, 5.12 vs Ripcord being based on 5.9). Unfortunately, the latest stable version of Telegram Desktop released just a couple of days ago does not work in Windows Vista I receive the following error when attempting to run it: For this reason, Telegram Desktop 1.8.15 will remain listed as the final version for Windows Vista (and XP, too).
  4. I have already tested it on Windows XP x64, however I received the following error: I then tried copying dwmapi.dll from Vista to XP, but then received this error: It seems Ripcord heavily relies on APIs and DLLs only available in Windows Vista+. I'm just thankful that Vista works with it, albeit excluding the x86 version like @VistaLover pointed out. Since Vista is so similar to Windows 7 API wise, it doesn't surprise me that QT 5.9 (and newer) applications can work on it. As long as the applications don't call for Windows 7+ functions, they will work in Vista just fine it seems.
  5. @Werewolf Thank you so much for the HUGE list of additions! Finally got around to adding them all. Glad to see you around again. I have you to thank for my list gaining popularity in early/mid 2017 thanks to the plethora of additions you provided then. Thanks again! In addition to what Werewolf posted, I have added another piece of software called Ripcord to "Instant Messaging" section, after discovering it in a thread over at the XP forum here. What makes this software unique is that it provides a fully functional Discord client for Windows Vista users, which I much prefer to using the Web version: As you can see, this is based on QT, rather than the infamous Electron (which is like a cancer contributing to the sharp decline in software support for Windows XP/Vista since 2015 ) which allows it to work flawlessly on Windows Vista. Voice Chatting also works great, for those wondering. I can't seem to find any system requirements listed anywhere, but since it does not work on Windows XP (giving a "not a valid win32 application" error message, indicating the software was built targeting Windows NT 6.0 as the minimum) I will assume that it officially supports Windows Vista or later. Also, Telegram Desktop 1.8.15 has been listed as the last version for Windows XP and Vista (1.9.0/1.9.1, both pre-releases, do not work due to missing DLL functions; the developer has stated here that it will not be fixed).
  6. I have used Windows Vista on a Samsung 840 EVO for nearly 6 years now, and it still works great. Unlike your SSD, mine does support & require TRIM, but this is performed by the Samsung Magician software. Your SSD should be just fine with Windows Vista. If the SSD doesn't support TRIM in the first place, then it wouldn't make any difference if you used Windows Vista or 7/8/10, as Windows Vista supports proper partition alignment for SSDs and will do this for you automatically upon formatting the hard drive during installation. The only steps you'll need to take for the most optimal experience, and to get the most life out of your SSD would be: Disable Superfetch via services.msc. Disable Automatic Disk Defragging, by opening Disk Defragmenter and making sure the "Run on a schedule" option is unchecked. To save disk space, decrease the footprint of System Restore by following this guide here. Disable Search Indexer on the SSD by opening Computer, right click on the SSD, click Properties, and uncheck "Index this drive for faster searching" under the General tab. As long as you do these things, Windows Vista will be just fine on your SSD and the overall lifespan will be the same as it would be with Windows 7.
  7. Unfortunately, the switch drivers do not work for me. After installing it, my USB 3.0 ports simply don't work, and attempting to install the AMDXHC driver gives me an error: "Code 10: the device cannot start." I'm using an ASUS P8B75-M motherboard.
  8. I can confirm the issues with iTunes Store when attempting to sign in; I get the same errors described in this post. However I can still view the contents of the Store, but that's pretty much useless since I can't purchase/download anything. I have updated the list to reflect this new information: As always, thanks so much to everyone for the additions to the list while I've been away, and sorry for taking so long to finally get around to updating it. With that said, here's the Summary of Changes this time: SUMMARY OF CHANGES TO THE LIST FOR OCTOBER 24, 2019: Added Viber as last version for Vista to "Instant Messaging" section. Updated Autodesk 3dsmax 2012, Autodesk Maya 2012, & Autodesk Mudbox 2012 to their 2016 versions as last unofficially supported versions for Vista in "2D/3D Modeling software" section. Updated Blender to UNS status. Added VMware Tools 10.3.10 as last version for Vista to "Virtualization software" section. Added calibre 3.48 as last version for Vista to "File Management" section. Updated information about iTunes Store: While you still may access the store, signing in no longer works. Added OpenGL Extensions Viewer to "Hardware Identification & Temperature Management" section. Updated information about GTA V in "Games" -> "Active Development" section: Now requires a workaround for new versions as of Sept. 2019.
  9. SUMMARY OF CHANGES TO THE LIST FOR SEPT 13, 2019: Added SeaMonkey 2.49.5 as last version for Vista in "Web browsers" -> "Firefox-based" section. Added Mumble (x86 only) to "Instant Messaging software" section. Updated status of Telegram Desktop on Windows XP/Vista: the software continues to be updated on XP/Vista despite the supposed-end of support on Sept 1. Added VMware Workstation 11.1.2 and VMware Workstation 12.0.0 as last UNS versions for Vista to "Virtualization software" section.
  10. I can confirm, 12.0.0 works great in Windows Vista! Huge thanks to @WinFX for figuring this out. I will have to add these programs to my list sometime this week.
  11. Well after changing the launch condition of each .exe file in the VMware Program Files directory with Application Verifier (x64) using its "HighVersionLie" feature, I have successfully managed to remove the artificial OS block. However, all that did was create a different error... The VM at least tries to start now, but after a few seconds the VM shuts down and this error appears... I'm pretty stumped at this point. Link to Application Verifier is here if anyone wants to try it out.
  12. I already discovered this was possible back in 2015/2016, however I never posted about it because this absolutely infuriating little error prevents any VM from starting with no way around it: Unless someone knows a workaround... I have tried using Application Verifier and FCWin2k to no avail.
  13. Thank you @Ruan for all the additions! Added them to the list. Also, Telegram Desktop now no longer supports Windows XP and Vista as of yesterday. A message that once said "Update your OS, Telegram is ending support for it on Sept 1." or something along those lines, now says this upon launching the application: I have archived the software installer along with its portable version here for those interested, and the link is also provided on the first post. SUMMARY OF CHANGES TO THE LIST FOR SEPTEMBER 2, 2019: Added PriviZer & Simple Software Restriction Policy to "Antivirus & Security software" section. Updated information on Telegram Desktop: version 1.8.2 is the last for Windows XP and Windows Vista; the software no longer supports these operating systems as of September 1, 2019. Added Hard Configurator, Revo Uninstaller Free, and SUMo Software Update monitor to "System Management, Cleanup, & Analysis" section.
  14. Thank you for letting me know. Updated the list to reflect this information; will list the last specific version once this branch stops being updated:
  15. What sound card/chip are you using? Are you certain that no drivers exist for Windows Vista? If you're trying to get the drivers from your OEM (HP, Dell, etc) instead of the actual chipset manufacturer (Realtek, VIA, etc) then try getting them directly from the chipset manufacturer instead. You can also try using Snappy Driver installer to download and install the drivers automatically; although the name may sound fishy, this is a legitimate piece of software that makes installing the drivers much easier and I've used it myself on many occasions; it continues to support Windows XP and Vista. Download here.
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