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Well, whatever the cause, the correct result is no crashing when used as-is with defaults. I noticed he has only one version of Thorium 122 for modern Windows (so no further patching of 122 from initial release), this one doesn't crash. Legacy one does, when run on Win10 or XP. Actually, it appears only Win32 flavor of legacy build crashes, Win64 legacy build is fine. And the one build for modern Windows is available only in Win64 flavor.

Same here. Posting code here has been a pure game of chance for months. The forum editor is still totally buggy and constantly spinning around although all has been reported months ago.

Yes, I recently also started to encounter weird website behaviour, I reported here. https://msfn.org/board/topic/186000-posting-test-string-boot-ini-causes-http-403-forbidden-error/?do=findComment&comment=1264723 Interesting, I have no "forbidden", but the posting sometimes takes long time to pass through. Living in Holland, I have a very fast internet connection.

They don't like your IP.

Good! Just don't forget to disable client hints and their persistent storage in flags. Modern sites are smart enough to see through your spoofed UA.

I had written about user agent hacks ages ago' all can be found at my account, people just don't listen, hopefully they will listen to @AstroSkipper. Another important hack is OS bitness in user agent, always choose 32 bit OS. esp. if you're on XP 32 bit! Youtube (and the such) will serve less scripts for 32 bit OS.

Congratulations Dietmar. You made it to the news. "How to run Windows XP on an i486" (German) https://www.golem.de/news/betriebssystem-retrofit-wie-windows-xp-auf-den-i486-kommt-2405-185471.html Now you will be famous.

Cloudflare serves cookie consent script for the site, the rest are ads. I block all with extreme prejudice, the editor works fine, apart from the occasional "post goes through although it doesn't show until you refresh". Sometimes, but rarely, there's a delay when posting (server/database overload?).

StartAllBack 3.7.10

And what I meant is, if a driver is WHQL, it can't be unofficial, esp. since Microsoft gives that stamp. With WHQL you can be sure it wasn't tampered. I don't know how much it will help with browser acceleration on that old card though.

Thanks again for your assessment! What I actually meant was the fact that NVIDIA does not offer the driver version 307.90 but 307.83 as the latest version for the Geforce series 6. Generally, I am very careful when it comes to updating graphics card drivers in my very old system, as I have had some very unpleasant experiences in the past. But I will create a current image of my system and then test the version 307.90 offered by Microsoft.

Just a small note. Due to the circumstance that the hardware acceleration does not work properly on my old machine, I have reverted my Chrome XP API Adapter from version 1.2.0.5058 to version 1.2.0.5057 which now runs smoothly again on my machine.

A bit "laxed" requirements for mobile users. "For older Chrome or on Mobile, you need to toggle TLS 1.3 hybridized Kyber support (enable-tls13-kyber) in chrome://flags." I don't see such flag in "older" Chrome 113.

Thanks, my friend! You are helpful here as you have always been. In any case, I can say that using a mobile user agent works absolutely great in Thorium. Many websites load much faster. As I am also an experienced Android user for many years, I have learnt to appreciate the advantages of websites' mobile view. I only switch to the desktop view of a certain website if necessary or desired. On such an old machine as mine, this trick leads to a very careful use of the computer resources available. Less CPU utilisation, less RAM consumption.

So, after some deeper tests, I found the reason why Google Drive didn't crash for me in my fully configured profile. In this profile, I use by default a mobile user agent. The mobile view of Google Drive runs without any crashes and very fast. Therefore, I didn't observe any problems there. Here is my mobile user agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 9; Tablet) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/122.0.6261.168 Mobile Safari/537.36. It can be used as a temporary or general (as Google Drive is much smoother then ) solution until the bug is fixed in the legacy build, too.

Ok. The next time when I am at my XP machine I will test Google Drive on a clean profile but with the most recent Chrome XP API Adapter. Without this updated adapter, Thorium does not run well and would overtax my patience. Maybe then, I'll finally get the long-awaited crash. Ok. On a clean profile without any further flags but with the most recent Chrome XP API Adapter, I finally get the long-awaited crash. So, you are absolutely right, the Thorium version SSE2 122.0.6261.169 WINXP 32-bit was not fixed in terms of the Google Drive bug.

Ok. The next time when I am at my XP machine I will test Google Drive on a clean profile but with the most recent Chrome XP API Adapter. Without this updated adapter, Thorium does not run well and would overtax my patience. Maybe then, I'll finally get the long-awaited crash.

Thank you very much UCyborg. I was about to follow Astro's advice to go to GitHub and ask around. I was also playing around a bit with the flags but what I tried only made things worse. The good, the bad and the ugly! It will be a matter of finding a way around it. I remembered when that program appeared that created a virtual disk linked to Drive and appeared in My PC. Twas super slow! But today that speeds are different... where is that Setup.exe?

Yes... https://github.com/Alex313031/thorium-legacy/issues/62 The issue was closed, but it wasn't solved in legacy build.

Hello AstroSkipper said: "Unfortunately, I have to report that the payment of an eBay item with Paypal in New Moon 28 no longer works. You get stuck when logging into your Paypal account after a captcha request. Therefore, I had to make the purchase via my tablet. Can anyone confirm this issue?" Hello AstroSkipper, a few weeks ago (Bestelldatum:05. Mai. 2024) I wanted to pay with NM28 for an order on eBay with Paypal and got stuck like you. Only after visiting my Paypal account and confirming that I had read and accepted the revised AGBs (GTCs General terms and conditions) the payment proceeded as intended.

... Discourse-based forums fixing userscript below: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184051-my-browser-builds-part-4/?do=findComment&comment=1258499 ... and a revised version of the uBO (legacy) custom filter having the same effect : https://msfn.org/board/topic/185966-my-browser-builds-part-5/?do=findComment&comment=1258536 NB: Both above mitigations are "universal", whereas the Modify-HTTP-Response based solution you opted for (it was the recommended solution on the official PM Forum at a time the UXP platform was missing support for those villainous operators, "?." & "??" ) requires manually modifying its "filter" every time you come across a discourse forum NOT covered already by the filter's existing RegExp... ... Are you saying you tried to properly use the editor's code tag (</>), select Javascript under coding language options, paste the "code" inside the designated input field and when you hit the "Insert into post" button the "Forbidden..." error popped up? Or was it that the code was properly inserted into the post while in Edit/Preview mode and the error hit after you clicked the "Submit Reply" button?

For me, the Google Drive website works in my Thorium installation but @UCyborg reported crashes with this website. Maybe, using some Chrome flags might help you. As we both already stated, trial and error is the game. And you can report this problem in Thorium's issues on GitHub to inform the developer.

Directory Opus works for me, but it has a feature where it intercepts calls to Explorer and effectively replaces it unless you open Run and type explorer.

Today, the Chrome XP API Adapter has been updated to version 1.2.0.5059. I installed it and did not add the two flags in terms of hardware acceleration. That works for my old machine.

How racist of them! Well... I don't like their IP either!

OK! Thank you for your time.

That's not applicable to this precise case when @AstroSkipper is going to download that WHQL driver directly from Microsoft website to check if it helps with the browser, and it had been written and explained in the previous replies. Are you trying to imply it can be tampered on by the evil hackers on-the-fly, during the download?

I wouldn't go that far. I have seen drivers "patched" and still retain their "whql" stamp-of-approval. You can run across them quite frequently on "overclocking" forums. They are used for "slipstreaming" the driver onto your installation media that would not otherwise install because the driver installs at a very very very early stage of installation. Primarily to add support for motherboards that were not originally supported.

I don't know, either. Trial and error is the only method to gain clarity. But I assume it won't do anything in terms of hardware acceleration in Thorium when it comes to my acient NVIDIA Geforce 6200.

You're welcome! Glad it finally works for you. TBH, your hardware is much more recent and powerful than mine. Therefore, I couldn't imagine that Thorium does not run on your system at all, but does on my ancient box from 2000. The manual execution of the command I posted for you is actually just a test whether the Thorium browser can be started in your system at all or not. I observed in my installation that from time to time the execution of the batch file didn't do anything for whatever reason. Thus, I modified the code of this batch starter file and compiled it to an EXE file which now runs reliably without any problems. BTW, I brought your comment here as a deeper discussion would have been off-topic in @roytam1's browser thread. This thread here is a better place to get help in terms of Thorium related stuff and discuss its issues.

Seeing pure white 255 means your brightness is at max. You need to look at other colours, like you successfully did with grey. Compare black levels.

I should add, that you should not expect from this "D3D9 HW Rendering Acceleartion" feature, enabled for XP, -- of some impossible in current state of other browser code. It will do some speedup on intermediate level computers. Especially while Youtube videos watching. Not intended for WebGL tests. may be _anything_ with it. Its just restored possibility to do that acceleration in some cases on XP. When Chromuim removed it in the past. On power computers, its may be no differences in rendering/speed. And I'm personally not use it on power computer, because of some disadvantages of that mode.

There's a documented difference with grey colour and its shades at github and by you here (thanks!). For me, the problem is with colours being too light, like on that first screenshot. I run Vista without exkernel.

... You're using St55, so the wording there (about:profiles) is still "Restart with Add-Ons Disabled" ; in St52, MCP have reworded that to "Restart in Safe Mode", to more accurately indicate what happens when you click that button... As you've found out already: "Restart with Add-Ons Disabled" != "disable every add-on manually and restart" http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode

Breakage of discourse-based forums/communities under UXP-based browsers (NM28/St52 and probably St55) is an already known issue, that has been reported more times than I'd care to remember ; discourse serve a script that checks for a specific platform feature in the client browser, which isn't present in the UXP platform per se but, at the same time, isn't strictly necessary for the discourse-based forums/communities to function properly - thus, "their" browser-checking script categorises UXP-based browsers as "unsupported" and then "they" serve the "dumbed down" version of the forums ... I have offered two mitigations for this predicament, one based on a custom uBlock Origin filter and another in the form of a userscript (requires a userscript manager to be installed); search my MSFN posts with the keyword "discourse" ; probably inside "My Browser Builds (Part 4, 5)" megathreads...

Adding dark mode for current Windows 10/11 builds, was already several month of work. I don't do this for deprecated windows versions. As for your mistakes: 1) It now longer loads ADK, if the current windows don't needed it. 2) Version display was removed, because some people carelessly updated and just broke supported OS versions, for no reason. 3) That's wanted, looking more current system conform. Re-uploaded, you now can disable these 3 options in WinNTSetup.ini. [Options] NoDownload=0 ShowEngineVersion=1 NewIcons=0

Hello everyone, I managed to create a screen capture tool for Windows NT4 and 5.x in the community. It has similar functionality to the one found in Windows 7: Features: Full-Screen Capture: The application currently supports capturing the entire screen, allowing users to take comprehensive screenshots of all visible content on their display. Capture Region Selection: Users can select a specific region of the screen to capture, providing flexibility to focus on and share only the desired part of the screen. Select Window Capture Mode: Users can capture the content of a single window, enabling more focused and precise screen captures, thus improving user experience and usability. Supports many languages. V1.1: Added capture select window mode. Removed the transparent background in select mode due to the problem with the 16-color. Fixed the issue with the process not being closed. V1.2: Fix bug when selecting the region again in the same process. Add installer and support for multiple languages. Source code : https://github.com/Win2000DevCommunity/Capture-tool You can download the compiled V1.2 version from GitHub.

What about Freebasic? This seems to be the programming language of choice to make DOS compatible software that can run on current systems as well.

What about using standard Microsoft Word for writing a diary? Word 97 for example. Just needs some tuning for PDF export. Namely CutePDF by Acro Software, version 2.8 on my Windows 98 system.

KB2819745 is Powershell 4.0, you don't need to install it You can update directly to PS 5.1 (Win7AndW2K8R2-KB3191566-x64.zip) here : https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=54616 On Windows 7 the only requirements are NET 4.5 (or higher) and SP1

Big recommendation for Teamspeak 2, if it's for voice chat between Windows PCs of all ages. Despite being super old, Teamspeak 2 works even on Windows 10, as well as good old Windows 98. The system requirements are ridiculously low. The codecs are ridiculously outdated (some of them convert your voice to mysterious art!), but they're efficent. Still many public servers are up and running and self-hosting is possible as well. What a nice software. Teamspeak 2 Download: http://teamspeak2.bplaced.net/neue_seite_3.htm

Retrozilla displays the site forum.aviaskins.com fine here on my Windows 98 machine. Maybe there are some language packs missing on your Windows 95 installation. Well, I don't know the path on Windows 95, but on Windows 98, you can go to the Control Panel -> Software -> Windows Setup. There is a list of optional packages that come on the original Windows CD. I have a category there for foreign language support. Maybe installing that helps?

There are definetly smaller desktops missing in discounters, that sometimes offer computers. A small desktop, maybe even with passive cooling, would be more than enough what most people ever need. I remember very well these discussions in my last school year in 2011, that desktops will be the dinosaurs soon, they are too large, too complicated to set up, too many cables, not beautiful enough, impractical basically. Unfortuneatly some people have experienced the computer as frustrating, clicked on the wrong website once, next virus blows the system up. Too complicated, too many possible errors. A walled garden with these Appstores on the smartphones (on Linux too), that's more restrictive, "but at least I can't do anything wrong". That's what easy users prefer, so the desktop was on the decline on the mass-market. I know some people, who just use their devices for communicating via Whatsapp and Mail (short messages), videos are played over the smart TV. No PC required anymore. Writing surely is not as precise as on a keyboard, but for short messages, people seem to suffer past it. And the large keyboard (looking disastoursly complex, over 100 keys, only one short step away from the stoneage typewrites) can't rest on my lap while I'm doing yoga poses in front of my TV! And now the killer argument: I can't decide to turn on the computer! It feels like such a big task! Whereas the smartphone is always on. That's easier to check. Dammed, how lazy can people be, to be too lazy to turn on the computer! And if mobile games are enough (or gaming consoles)... well then, the PC truely lost its purpouse in some homes. Let's say, it happens, even for younger people here. Not everyone wants to build things with technology or to learn deeper things, we always have to consider that. The PC will be only dead, if an atomic bomb explodes and all electrics will be cut. Else, it's a device far too universal and useful to become extinct.

Hehee... let's look at a dual-boot system from a more general perspective. Raw competition happens every time you switch on the power button of your computer. Which system is better for one task or another? Windows or Linux? A dual-boot system gives you the power to decide and to take best from both worlds. Therefore, on your and my scrappy old computers, LibreOffice does in fact compete against Word 97 about the task of producing texts in a more complex way than just a simple plain text file. Please consider my view as the view of a simple computer user. The programmers internals mean nothing to me, it's the result that counts. I have to operate these programs to achieve stuff. Oh, it's always interesting to hear about new features! Tell me some! I was asleep in the last 25 years. What are the brand-new office suites capabale of, that I haven't heard about? In the business world, people don't bother with Windows 98 machines anymore. They have faster equipment which is absolutely capable of running the current LibreOffice in a way so that it doesn't need 45 seconds to start. I agree 100% on the topic of LibreOffice being very important, probably one of the most important user-software on Linux. Very good to have them around. A world without LibreOffice? It would look quite dark on Linux when it comes to text production, I'd say... The audio player named "Audacious" was mentioned, which is a good example of a fine light-weight program, doing just audio. This thing can compete with Winamp 2.95 on Windows 98. Gorgeous program! Proper operation on my old Pentium 2, even large files, 2 hours long, several hundereds of megabytes being played smoothly with that Audacious. @UCyborg: Well, the age of the program doesn't matter that much, to be honest, because we are sitting here, end of 2021, with some of us having (mostly overpowered) old machines on their desks. Every computer has an optimal program to run a certain task. LibreOffice to big? Downgrade to AbiWord. Still too slow? Leafpad... oh GUIs are not available, well Nano then... to give some examples. Or mess around with older versions. What would the Windows chain be? If Word 97 is too much, then go along with Word 6.0 I suppose... Which can only be found out by testing. It's a very individual choice, what someone needs. But next I want to hear some features of the new text programms to be amazed of! @ArcticFoxie: That odd 2004 single-core with Linux Mint, well, that might be too much for it. Of course only a test would show, if you would become happy with the performance. An SSD would be the killer application hardwarewise, speeding up things quite a bit. Unfortuneatly, you're losing some programs that don't get 32-bit versions anymore nowadays. Maximising the RAM shouldn't be too difficult on that computer, as the hardware probably doesn't cost anything. For the dual-boot installation, I'd go first with Windows XP, format the disks in a way that some space for Linux is available too. Then install Salix. If the bootloader (LILO in the case of Salix) doesn't recognise one partition, stick a Puppy Linux Live CD in the drive and install the bootloader Grub4Dos, which can repair broken boot configurations. Do you have some hard drives in spare? Luxury would be seperate hard drives for Linux and the Windows partition. Because OS performance degrates the further away from the center of the magnetic plates your system is installed, so it would be unfair to have both OS on the same HDD. These disadvantages don't apply for an SSD of course. Edit: Lightweight would be the Xfce desktop. Try that one instead of Cinnamon.

Regarding my comment, the LibreOffice developers would show me the finger and tell me to get out of the stone age. Their program is simply not built to run on such old computers. Maybe I'm a stubborn id***, but I don't see any major improvements in Office Suites in the last 25 years, really. PDF exporting since Office 2003 is the most important feature that I use. To be honest, a peek at Word 6.0 (of 1993) for Windows 3.11 "felt" pretty much like sitting in front of Word 97 with round buttons, but I haven't tested that in detail and realised any projects with it. So of course LibreOffice has its important place in today's computing, but I have to compare features and performance for working, regardless of whatever age this program is, so I end up with Word 97 as a solution and am always amazed by the amout of power that LibreOffice needs to achieve the same things. Sorry, it looks like I measured something different, which was the RAM usage on startup in fact. My mistake! To tell you the truth, Word 97 has plenty of flaws. And one has to get used to them, probably find ways around them, and then one can do fantastic projects with the program. Now what would have been, if I as a 4-year-old would have been sat in front if a Linux machine instead of Windows 98? Much likely I would have gotten used to the flaws of the Linux programs instead and worked with them. Regarding lightweight browsers for Linux, Midori was a good choice on the Pentium 2, but that was 5 years ago. Unfortuneatly, it was left behind by the newer encryption standards in my distro then. For computers without enough CPU power, w3m might be an option as a capable text-browser. It can be navigated with a mouse and does everything it displays obviously quick.

Absolutely appaling performance of LibreOffice! OpenOffice has a slightly better performance than LibreOffice on my small Linux netbook, probably because it's older in the core program. But still, it never justifies the amount of power that is needed in comparison to old texting programs. I've tested the lightweight AbiWord on Linux some years ago, but was unhappy with the way it worked with tables. Open Office Writer 4.1.7 (2019) on Salix-Linux 106,2 MB Microsoft Word 97 on Windows XP 5,7 MB Dammit, I forgot the name of another well-performing office program for Linux! All I remember it was made by a dutch developer and there was a medieval painting in black/white, showing a man with curly hair, at the title screen. That office program performed well on a Pentium 2 I remember.