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Here's a picture of Catsxp 3.2.5 beta (Chrome 111 based) running on Windows 7:

KB5022872 update just came out 2/14. check if this new update works (or not)

ok die hard win7 users start installing/testing the KB5022872 Feb. 14 update whether it works or not on Win7 editions other than Win7 embedded standard & Server 2008 R2

No clue how old Mr. D.Draker is. But all I'm hearing here is "ego" or something. He always struck me as low 30s so dating a 27yr old seems about right. But now I'm wondering if he's mid 20s and dating somebody older but looking for somebody younger. So is the post about dating a 27yr old some sort of "brag" for dating somebody older? How are we to read it? Unsure as I would personally never put that sort of detail on MSFN. This is not Facebook, lol, and I don't do Facebook. I certainly hope he's not in his 40s and posting that he's looking for a 20yr old. Another "brag"? Who knows, to each their own. Which I guess leaves him perhaps in his 20s and not liking that his current girlfriend is older and more mature, so he's looking for somebody 20, younger, and less mature than himself. But post that on MSFN? Again, this isn't Facebook. And I'm very very confused by the "her parents need to be dead" comment. A 20yr old whose parents are dead, her parents died "tragically", not of "old age" or "natural causes", but *tragically*. And to have been dead a "very long time" would have put that future girlfriend where, 6yrs old, 10yrs old, 15yrs old? Very very "formative" years in one's "upbringing" to go through the pain of tragically losing her parents. But yeah, my "left brain" is taking over and being far too "analytical" for some "blurb" regarding a 27yr old girlfriend that doesn't fit the bill, that a 20yr old would be better suited, and that the 20yr old had better not have any surviving parents trying to "parent" the new boyfriend. I guess this is just what the "Funny Farm" is all about, I don't really trek down here too often.

Good morning to you too, jaclaz, always a pleasure to hear from you ! Sorry for the huge delay, I don't visit this topic often.

Fantastic French Hamster ! Thank you for the pictures ! I also had an article about the beautiful pink French Iguana, need to find it.

LOL!

That it did, lol. I do read *EVERY* post in this thread - despite migrating to Chromium Forks over the years.

It did break up the monotony a bit.

I guess sometimes something just snaps in one's mind and then things are never the same again. I'll never understand how these so-called loners get to the point of reproducing. What a paradox. I tried mIRC a very long time ago, just out of curiosity, was in elementary school period, didn't stay there, only remember one short convo with someone that was just messing around. If there was more, it must have been even more pointless so not worth memorizing. Dating sites? What are those (rhetoric question) ? I know a place on Reddit where loners who would like to be with someone vent. Sad, that situation is one of many forms of suffering. I only use Skype to annoy my co-workers, haha. While job keeps me busy, I'd prefer something more pleasant in its place, but what can ya' do?

Well, like I said, it was meant to be a joke (not meant to be OT btw), but anyway, thanks for saying your view on this!

I know you mean well, but meditation has been a life-saver for me better than medication, so I don't agree. Can we agree to disagree?

I'd like to see you "meditate" about socializing more with people...maybe know a good soul (of the opposite sex of course) to improve your life...what do you think, Sal...?

Build 5430 succesfully working on Windows 7 Normally, the last build is 5425.

Be TRUE, Sal... You should stop with this "meditation" crap...you are an intelligent person, so you know it does NOTHING but waste or "fill" your time. It's actually wasted time, and you must know that, right, Sal? It's the same as thinking for a while about the chicken you ate a week ago... poor chicken, but "meditating" about it is also for nothing, so little effect, isn't it? Am I right?

About the same here. I intentionally use a NON-REBASED version because of that. NON-REBASED (ie, "original") has a start time around TWO seconds (six for first launch out of hibernate/restart). REBASING may save on RAM, but it KILLS on start time - so it's a trade-off, "pick your poison".

my computer is here now and is running great! (I'll stick with windows 10 for now thou)

I don't read most of your posts. So very easily missed.

Welcome to MSFN, @ItCoder!

Works for me, lol. Like I say, I don't visit the Funny Farm that often, just not my cup of tea.

I was born in the seventies, I wrote about it many times. I remember life without computers, you, Americans, call us Gen-X. My main picture is almost 15 years old. (circa 2008 to 2010). After the alleged fall of USSR in 1992, I could clearly see the battle with the planetary Evil isn't over, far from it, so in 1993 or 94 I enlisted and joined an elite military academy. Decades passed and the service was over, so I decided to become a merc., along with my brothers from the other NATO countries, with whom I was on joint missions, Mostly Dutch, Belgian and Brits. In Ukraine I was voluntarily (no French gov. involved), no one paid me. Among several reasons to go there, the first one you could guess, the other one is to keep myself in a good shape. I got more scars and grey hair now. Everything else is the same, as I prefer to keep myself in a brilliant shape. I wrote about my GF only to explain to you 'cause you kinda assumed I don't have one and/or "prefer living single". I have one, but at the same time looking for a new in advance, I think it's easy to understand. Now she still looks good, but what will happen to her at 30 ? No one knows, so I prefer to be prepared. I didn't start to post about any GFs, BTW ! It was Ucyborg and/or legacyfan, I think ! So don't accuse me of instagramifying of MSFN ! And I'm defo not looking for someone at MSFN ! We got plenty of young women here, it's not the states ! I live in a luxury city, where they also want to live, they come here and want to stay. Living in a luxury city doesn't mean being rich - I'm absolutely not ! It's they who think I'm rich 'cause I look good and live in a rich city and this is where they entrap themslevs , lol. EDIT: If someone is again "afraid of my life/childhood", I'll edit the post , no probs.

More like a child...almost

But don't forget my Detox thread, please, Page 50 already (to click on Pretty Detox Posts link): Thank you!

I do not own a phone. No land line. No cell phone. No phone of any kind. I don't own anything Android.

Please don't feel as if you need to rescue me though, I don't want to bring your mood down or make you feel bad. Okay?

I think you will. Hope you run into the right girl when you are ready.

Thank you so much @legacyfan I may take you up on that offer if that is alright. How do you stay to balanced? If ok to ask you such. Do you meditate?

My therapist is useless, while a nice person, nothing she says resonates with me.

I'm always here to help if needed

Ok. so... I need to back to it again and I've lots bottled up inside and need to write and this is the thread for me to do so. Everyone here was so worked up (where I reside, not the forums) about politics and I insisted we turn off the news and things are calm now and I'm sitting here with my back turned to the TV and Bones is playing and I'm enjoying it. I'm drinking a sun burst melon lemonade. I don't fit in anywhere in this world or on the net and mental health forums are no longer my liking. I forgot my blog and never actually started it. I want to talk more about acquired brain injury and my mental health but I'm just stuck in this rut and cant see any way out and I don't see light at the end of the tunnel. Sleep has been everything but restorative. Ugh...

I can say that I hereby have no plans to undertake any Catsxp-based project. I am extremely thankful that a "new" Chrome/Chromium Fork has risen to the challenge of maintaining functionality with Win7 that does not require an Extended Kernel and will keep an eye on it as a possible future project. But when it comes right down to it, there are better performing options available to the Vanilla Win7 crowd. Yet I also say this not knowing any web site examples that "work" in Chrome v110 but do not work in Chrome v96 - I'd rather run a "slightly older" variant and have improved performance than use "cutting edge" but take the performance hit. Win7 Enterprise SP1 - 360Chrome v13.5 build 1030 == 56.5 Ungoogled Chromium v86 == 67.3 Catsxp v3.2.4 == 68.7 GDIChromium v96 == 96.3

I'm doing good! and my computer gets here sometime around 10-12 tommorow and it valentines day

StartAllBack 3.6.1

do yes for yes, no for no

Hey, I do ask for their opinion, when we watch! I'm all good, then.

Go see the girls, my buddy...ask them for their opinion

OMG! Tell us there is a cure, please.

... Which was the exact point I raised earlier... AFAIAA, roytam1 has not (yet?) submitted any PR upstream, nor do I know whether he has any inclination to do so in the future ... And whether such an eventual PR relates to common code (between "our" UXP-fork and the "upstream" platform) or not, "upstream" do mandate that all issues & PRs submitted to their repo have been reproduced/tested on their "approved" application(s)... Some years ago, when MCP hosted their repos on GitHub, I had directly filed there a few issues discovered in NM28, with the note "I expect them to be 100% reproducible in PM, too"... All Moonchild had to do was try my STR in "his" browser; instead, I was frowned upon, my report disregarded, until I provide actual proof of the issue on PM itself ... I couldn't run PM in my OS of choice, so I then gave up ...

Thanks! That's a real service. I appreciate it!

Hi @ItCoder, hello from Belgium and welcome to MSFN! I wish you to enjoy the forums! Have a nice day. hpwamr

I held back as I haven't a clue how comfortable folks here are about those themes. I guess it's irrational since they could see right away if they followed the link. Is there still hostility between Moonchild and roytam1? I meant to refer to the fact that they couldn't cooperate in the same way Moonchild cooperates with other developers since Moonchild wouldn't want the platform to cater to the lowest common denominator. I do agree there's no harm in roy doing his own thing. I don't follow closely so I've no idea if roytam1 sometimes also makes pull requests to the upstream when it come to common, not platform-specific code.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20230211-485bba73-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20230211-485bba73-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20230211-id-656ea98-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20230211-id-656ea98-ia-93af9a0-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild for UXP changes please see above.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230211-3219d2d-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20230211-3219d2d-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230211-3219d2d-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win64-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2104 - Part 1: Implement "clip" attribute value for XUL string cropping (60c344a56) - Issue #2104 - Part 2: Indicate if a label was cropped via the "_is_cropped" attribute (4c9665a4a) - No issue - Accept also `video/vp8` as MIME type (1644bf94f) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt58l.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Agreed! I had to internet-search this one a good dozen times or so before it finally "sunk in" and MSFN posts that used it were always "confusing" until it FINALLY "sunk in". https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/tldr-meaning-acronym/

Most of my precious time has been devoted to the Chromium issue, which is continuously unfolding as they gradually remove legacy codepaths. The job object server is nearly functional (right now it isn't, but Chromium seems to be OK with it, in --no-sandbox at least). Then I need to add some things to NtQueryInformationProcess and that should get Chromium 111 100% functional. Some more functions will need to be added for Chromium 112.

Don't waste your time on him, he's clearly here for trolling. Btw, 5800X3D it's Zen 3 architecture with increased L3 size through vertical stacking.

I have to concur with you. Years ago, I was the same way as D.Drake about using XP as a daily driver on the Internet. It irked me that people here didn’t want to conform to the conditions of a Microsoft license. I embraced Vista and never looked back. And I wanted the “Luddites” on MSFN to follow suit. That is until ... Windows 10 I really love Windows 8, as many of you know. I came to see how my usage of an EOL product was misunderstood by some. Now I could see how self-centred I was to the XP fans here. I remembered that until Windows 8 came along, that my installation of Windows XP x64 Edition was likely the most stable and fastest environment I had ever worked on. Before that, I recall my years with Windows 2000 with equally great fondness. So, how could I be such a d—k head to those that wanted to run older environments? Sure, my idea of desirable vintage would be 2012 flat. So while I detest the Mozilla Proton interface and the look of Windows 10, I rather like the look of Windows 8 and Quantum. There was still some sort of dimension with the flatness then. Heck, I wish outlook.com web mail still looked like the Windows 8 style Metro client, like it did until 2015. And while daily Internet use of Windows 2000 and XP baffles me, I shouldn’t impose my feelings on others. Moreover, I’m amazed at some of the progress people here have made getting more recent browsers to work on past OS builds. Roytam1 is a big contributor in this arena, but myPal 68 is an even bigger achievement. Apparently, more modern attempts at browsers on Windows 9x are also being developed. I never thought I’d see that. I've come to realize that MSFN is a haven for vintage computing, plain and simple, and one should embrace that. I wish I had been more gracious years ago.

D.Draker, care to explain what is purpose of your presence on this section of forum? Because to me, looks like you're an annoying Windows Vista fan, who is trying intentionally p*** off Windows 7 users.

Something's definitely wrong with prices in California. I'd say the inflation is bad all over the world too, but California is always overpriced and overregulated . And this manufactured crisis is not over yet .

All fine. Long term analysis? If you give old Windows a chance, you can use your systems until... that hardware becomes so retro that it hurts? How many years to estimate... my Windows 98 and Windows XP computers here in operation are reliable despite being 20 years old. Will the current hardware last that long? Some current computers surely will. Anyways, no drama if a computer dies, you build up experience with a certain OS and carry that onto the next hardware. If you're heading for XP and 7, that's affordable for super scrap prices now. And probably in the next 10 years too. With that, you could live for a veeeeery long time without needing a change. But again, expectations have to be in control. The old stuff doesn't get quicker, but default resolutions of pictures and videos will grow (because people are wasteful with their kilobytes). Maybe you'll have to tweak with the settings of your camera a bit to use it on an old computer. Why not use Linux for the tasks only, where it's good at? No, @Dixel, please don't get angry now, because there are at least some tasks where Linux is superior to the old Windows, like current web browsing, the powerful command line and virus protection for example. Options! Options! Options! We need options on the table! 4 computers here around the working desk. One to the left, one to the right, one below the table board and one netbook on top of the table. A multi-boot and multi-core (7 cores in total) setup. But I prefer connecting the desktops all to one screen with a KVM switch, also to have one keyboard and mouse lying on the table. Tonny, you are asking the right critical questions about the way, that computers have developed. Congratulations. (I wish I was that far with 15...)