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Good morning to you too, jaclaz, always a pleasure to hear from you ! Sorry for the huge delay, I don't visit this topic often.

Fantastic French Hamster ! Thank you for the pictures ! I also had an article about the beautiful pink French Iguana, need to find it.

That it did, lol. I do read *EVERY* post in this thread - despite migrating to Chromium Forks over the years.

It did break up the monotony a bit.

I guess sometimes something just snaps in one's mind and then things are never the same again. I'll never understand how these so-called loners get to the point of reproducing. What a paradox. I tried mIRC a very long time ago, just out of curiosity, was in elementary school period, didn't stay there, only remember one short convo with someone that was just messing around. If there was more, it must have been even more pointless so not worth memorizing. Dating sites? What are those (rhetoric question) ? I know a place on Reddit where loners who would like to be with someone vent. Sad, that situation is one of many forms of suffering. I only use Skype to annoy my co-workers, haha. While job keeps me busy, I'd prefer something more pleasant in its place, but what can ya' do?

Build 5430 succesfully working on Windows 7 Normally, the last build is 5425.

About the same here. I intentionally use a NON-REBASED version because of that. NON-REBASED (ie, "original") has a start time around TWO seconds (six for first launch out of hibernate/restart). REBASING may save on RAM, but it KILLS on start time - so it's a trade-off, "pick your poison".

KB5022872 update just came out 2/14. check if this new update works (or not)

ok die hard win7 users start installing/testing the KB5022872 Feb. 14 update whether it works or not on Win7 editions other than Win7 embedded standard & Server 2008 R2

No clue how old Mr. D.Draker is. But all I'm hearing here is "ego" or something. He always struck me as low 30s so dating a 27yr old seems about right. But now I'm wondering if he's mid 20s and dating somebody older but looking for somebody younger. So is the post about dating a 27yr old some sort of "brag" for dating somebody older? How are we to read it? Unsure as I would personally never put that sort of detail on MSFN. This is not Facebook, lol, and I don't do Facebook. I certainly hope he's not in his 40s and posting that he's looking for a 20yr old. Another "brag"? Who knows, to each their own. Which I guess leaves him perhaps in his 20s and not liking that his current girlfriend is older and more mature, so he's looking for somebody 20, younger, and less mature than himself. But post that on MSFN? Again, this isn't Facebook. And I'm very very confused by the "her parents need to be dead" comment. A 20yr old whose parents are dead, her parents died "tragically", not of "old age" or "natural causes", but *tragically*. And to have been dead a "very long time" would have put that future girlfriend where, 6yrs old, 10yrs old, 15yrs old? Very very "formative" years in one's "upbringing" to go through the pain of tragically losing her parents. But yeah, my "left brain" is taking over and being far too "analytical" for some "blurb" regarding a 27yr old girlfriend that doesn't fit the bill, that a 20yr old would be better suited, and that the 20yr old had better not have any surviving parents trying to "parent" the new boyfriend. I guess this is just what the "Funny Farm" is all about, I don't really trek down here too often.

But don't forget my Detox thread, please, Page 50 already (to click on Pretty Detox Posts link): Thank you!

I do not own a phone. No land line. No cell phone. No phone of any kind. I don't own anything Android.

I can say that I hereby have no plans to undertake any Catsxp-based project. I am extremely thankful that a "new" Chrome/Chromium Fork has risen to the challenge of maintaining functionality with Win7 that does not require an Extended Kernel and will keep an eye on it as a possible future project. But when it comes right down to it, there are better performing options available to the Vanilla Win7 crowd. Yet I also say this not knowing any web site examples that "work" in Chrome v110 but do not work in Chrome v96 - I'd rather run a "slightly older" variant and have improved performance than use "cutting edge" but take the performance hit. Win7 Enterprise SP1 - 360Chrome v13.5 build 1030 == 56.5 Ungoogled Chromium v86 == 67.3 Catsxp v3.2.4 == 68.7 GDIChromium v96 == 96.3

StartAllBack 3.6.1

Beta 8 adds ReFS support for Windows 11 Dev builds. ReFS version should be displayed (you need at least the current version 3.9). Format dialog will show this option regardless of the Windows edition, no need for Enterprise or Professional Workstation.

do yes for yes, no for no

Hey, I do ask for their opinion, when we watch! I'm all good, then.

Go see the girls, my buddy...ask them for their opinion

OMG! Tell us there is a cure, please.

... Which was the exact point I raised earlier... AFAIAA, roytam1 has not (yet?) submitted any PR upstream, nor do I know whether he has any inclination to do so in the future ... And whether such an eventual PR relates to common code (between "our" UXP-fork and the "upstream" platform) or not, "upstream" do mandate that all issues & PRs submitted to their repo have been reproduced/tested on their "approved" application(s)... Some years ago, when MCP hosted their repos on GitHub, I had directly filed there a few issues discovered in NM28, with the note "I expect them to be 100% reproducible in PM, too"... All Moonchild had to do was try my STR in "his" browser; instead, I was frowned upon, my report disregarded, until I provide actual proof of the issue on PM itself ... I couldn't run PM in my OS of choice, so I then gave up ...

Thanks! That's a real service. I appreciate it!

I held back as I haven't a clue how comfortable folks here are about those themes. I guess it's irrational since they could see right away if they followed the link. Is there still hostility between Moonchild and roytam1? I meant to refer to the fact that they couldn't cooperate in the same way Moonchild cooperates with other developers since Moonchild wouldn't want the platform to cater to the lowest common denominator. I do agree there's no harm in roy doing his own thing. I don't follow closely so I've no idea if roytam1 sometimes also makes pull requests to the upstream when it come to common, not platform-specific code.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20230211-485bba73-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20230211-485bba73-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20230211-id-656ea98-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20230211-id-656ea98-ia-93af9a0-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild for UXP changes please see above.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230211-3219d2d-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20230211-3219d2d-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230211-3219d2d-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win64-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2104 - Part 1: Implement "clip" attribute value for XUL string cropping (60c344a56) - Issue #2104 - Part 2: Indicate if a label was cropped via the "_is_cropped" attribute (4c9665a4a) - No issue - Accept also `video/vp8` as MIME type (1644bf94f) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt58l.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Agreed! I had to internet-search this one a good dozen times or so before it finally "sunk in" and MSFN posts that used it were always "confusing" until it FINALLY "sunk in". https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/tldr-meaning-acronym/

Realistically, we're just going to have to do the following: Stick with Windows XP/Vista/7/8.1 on low-end hardware If Chromium or modern web browsers become unusable, simply dual-boot a Linux distro like ZorinOS (I personally use Mint Linux) Purchase an SSD on a higher-end PC and install Windows 10/11 Strip-down Windows 10 and customize it If you gotta, replace its system shell and explorer with a third party one. The majority of Windows 10's built-in components (image viewer, media player, etc.) are bloated and inefficient. Windows 10 LTSC IoT versions will actually be supported until 2032 at minimum (according to wikipedia), so I think there's a bit of relief for all of us At this point, I personally prefer 10 over 11. Windows 10 at least does not get rid of the Windows UX we love it for. I smell a potential lawsuit towards Microsoft for abandoning Windows 10. They've literally made computers from the past 15 years unusable and are adding onto electronic waste. Even our archaic Windows 98 computers can still be made useful in 2023 if given a right Linux OS.

Something's definitely wrong with prices in California. I'd say the inflation is bad all over the world too, but California is always overpriced and overregulated . And this manufactured crisis is not over yet .

All fine. Long term analysis? If you give old Windows a chance, you can use your systems until... that hardware becomes so retro that it hurts? How many years to estimate... my Windows 98 and Windows XP computers here in operation are reliable despite being 20 years old. Will the current hardware last that long? Some current computers surely will. Anyways, no drama if a computer dies, you build up experience with a certain OS and carry that onto the next hardware. If you're heading for XP and 7, that's affordable for super scrap prices now. And probably in the next 10 years too. With that, you could live for a veeeeery long time without needing a change. But again, expectations have to be in control. The old stuff doesn't get quicker, but default resolutions of pictures and videos will grow (because people are wasteful with their kilobytes). Maybe you'll have to tweak with the settings of your camera a bit to use it on an old computer. Why not use Linux for the tasks only, where it's good at? No, @Dixel, please don't get angry now, because there are at least some tasks where Linux is superior to the old Windows, like current web browsing, the powerful command line and virus protection for example. Options! Options! Options! We need options on the table! 4 computers here around the working desk. One to the left, one to the right, one below the table board and one netbook on top of the table. A multi-boot and multi-core (7 cores in total) setup. But I prefer connecting the desktops all to one screen with a KVM switch, also to have one keyboard and mouse lying on the table. Tonny, you are asking the right critical questions about the way, that computers have developed. Congratulations. (I wish I was that far with 15...)