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Couple interesting/related articles: The Website Obesity Crisis Is software getting worse?

Make sure you have Enabled=1 and BuildNumber=7600 added and not FirefoxFix, as FirefoxFix has been removed since June last year. You also should make sure you're pointing at the right directory, see this to understand what I mean. (but remember to disregard FirefoxFix from that link)

This is the wrong link as it points to the meaning of "pH" in chemistry... Here is the right one -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH_(disambiguation). @AstroSkipper under "Arts and media" -> article 3. kind regards soggi

actually there are a lot more win 7 users 3 years after EOL than there were XP users back then. according to statcounter.com, win 7 has a market share of 9.55% as of jan 2023 while XP was only at 5.26% in april 2017. I guess as long as Firefox still gets updates for win 7, it is simply not necessary to make an effort in getting newer builds of chromium to run on win 7.

... Well , if only members here had been following more closely the recent exchange between UCyborg and me, and, more importantly, if link(s) to the official Pale Moon forum had been actually clicked on, then there would have been no room left for disambiguation of the abbreviation "PH" UCyborg used in his reply to me : ... thus: ... It appears (drawing from a past recollection of mine) that the "crowd" here is hesitant to click links pointing to MCP's forum, for whatever "deserved" or "undeserved" reasons ...

Maybe my last post (half-joke, half-serious) was too far away from the previous one. It was in plain sight if you put them together. Funny how discussion on that particular website has lead to correction of a rather silly (but in the context of that website functionality on UXP still seemingly more or less unrelated) defect (regression) in the UXP platform. Edit: Hey, I did post about the mentioned "Software disenchantment" post back in October 2019! https://msfn.org/board/topic/180302-software-disenchantment/

Ive found that just over last year they joined eclectboard and have been posting over there https://forum.eclectic4un.me/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=109 alot of the big members of old from here are all on there as well as @WinClient5270

I'm wondering the same.

Glad to know this! Original poster OldAstroLandscapeGuy wrote: OldAstroLandscapeGuy OP· 4d ago Second try over the past 2 years to get this right :-) Finally had clear skies here in So Cal and was able to get out and shoot my favorite part of the milkyway arch, the Winter part!! Equipment: Canon Ra, Tamron 35mm f1.4, iOptron SkyTracker Pro, Mecha Auto Pano Head, good tripod. Sky: 2 rows, 9 positions (shot 4x @ each position) each image ISO3200, F2, 65 Seconds Foreground: 1 row f4 x 9 positions @ ISO2000, 4 seconds each (cars drive by for lighting :-)) All images pre processed in LR, sky images then stacked in Sequator for each panel. Sky panels and foregrounds panels brought into PTGui for stitching the sky and foregorund panoramas. The 2 panos where then brought into PS for to combine into one image and final touches made... Hope you enjoy it! CW - A truly breathtaking photography work, this Winter Milkyway Arch over Red Rock Canyon, CA ! - so another work by this same OldAstroLandscapeGuy, you could use this vertical picture in your phone: Orion over the Trona Pinnacles Author's comment: OldAstroLandscapeGuy OP·4d ago Finally got out to shoot the Winter Milkyway. This image is a combination of 60 x 65 second images stacked images for the sky and 6 images across for the foreground (while the moon was setting) all shot with an Astronomy Modified Canon camera and a 50mm Canon f1.2 lens on a star tracking mount (so no star trails). It was a REALLY beautiful night :-) Thanks for looking! CW Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathValleyNP/comments/10u037v/orion_over_the_trona_pinnacles/ His reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/user/OldAstroLandscapeGuy/

Because it's coupled in with the same context of YouTube.

Its 9PM on the dot and sorry guys I have to go -- sending all my love to you and find the white light and wrap yourself in it and then pass it along, the universe if full of love but its being overshadowed by darkness. Please use your mental firewall and filter out the bad ugly black BS. All the very best to you. See you tomorrow and sorry I missed you @legacyfan and @msfntor today but was a bit strange. I will report how things went and I can't chicken out sadly. Salvatore :)

https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2023/02/stable-channel-update-for-desktop.html Chrome 110 is released... any news for patching for 7? ............................

Were you unhappy over there? I never read over there all that much even. Good you can focus more time on here.

This video is wrong. If it were the Longhorn kernel booting up, you would see the Longhorn logo appear instead of the XP one, as the bitmaps are stored in ntoskrnl. Also, other kernel mode system components would be incompatible. NTDLL would be incompatible due to a change in syscalls between 2600.5512 and 4074. XP still boots at all, because it does not actually boot from a kernel named ntoskrnl.exe; in this case, the user also has a file named ntkrnlpa.exe in their system32 folder. This is a variant of ntoskrnl for single-processor systems that support PAE. The user would have needed to change boot.ini to boot from ntoskrnl to actually try using this kernel. And it would probably fail early on due to incompatibilities with the HAL and the like. But I think you could get a DWM-type experience with XPDM if someone did a lot of hooking work to capture each window, seize the borders and captions, create bitmaps of window contents and "play" around with them to make animations, etc.

Sorry not sure I understood correctly, your new (?) computer needs to be fixed already ? And it hasn't even arrived ? I'd better save up for a decent GPU than SSD.

does anyone know what happened to @Win-10-Hater? I was really good friends with them until around the time I disappeared from here and once I finally came back they had quit the forum does anyone know what ever happened to them?

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Great!

my account on wincert is now completely deleted (and my eclipse account deactivated) and will focus more on msfn

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Going out for a walk as this was the first day in over 2 weeks since I've been out and the fresh air felt great and I feel much better today. Hi everyone

Theoretically it could also be "PistonHeads" (article 1 under "Arts and media") but none of the others as they don't make any sense in connection with UXP browsers. Hmmmmm... kind regards soggi

It's definitely not the negative, decadic logarithm of the concentration of hydrogen ions in a solution. But very funny, indeed!

I was a bit confused, too. I am German, and English is not my native language, of course. When I read this comment, I thought PH is an abbreviation for "people here". But then, and only if I'm right, shouldn't it actually read "When PH stop working"?

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you might be dealing with pump failure, so changing that to something new should be a priority (you can get an air cooler like the noctua nh d14 or 15 or even a coolermaster V8, the original one, that's what I use on an OC'ed QX9650 to 4Ghz and the max I saw was 87C while running the linpack "test" from OCCT which is pushing even harder than prime95)

CELESTIAL THRONE - Mangart saddle, Slovenia (EU) Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LandscapeAstro/comments/ogxc9v/celestial_throne_mangart_saddle_slovenia_eu/ Winter Milkyway Arch over Red Rock Canyon, CA Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LandscapeAstro/comments/10tqa1j/winter_milkyway_arch_over_red_rock_canyon_ca/ LONELY SPECK - How to Photograph the Milky Way – Astrophotography Tutorials, Tools, Gear + Inspiration - LARGE FORMAT ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY PANORAMAS: https://www.lonelyspeck.com/how-to-shoot-large-format-astrophotography-panoramas/ JUST SPACE - A panorama of the Milky Way from 12,000ft at Buckskin Pass, Colorado Here: https://just--space.tumblr.com/post/154945333457/a-panorama-of-the-milky-way-from-12000ft-at - hmm... it seems to me that I have seen and sent here this last picture, maybe I am wrong?

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Hi, most of the Vista updates would be terrible outdated and make zero sense now anyways. I'd include only the really needed. Only this one : KB4474419 (to use the Kernel) https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=kb4474419 If you intend to use Firefox, install Windows6.0-KB2117917-x64, also. update for DX 11 Gaming - Windows6.0-KB971512-x64. And you're all set !

that's the some problem I'm having (with liking posts)

Now also got the download section to work, short version of the settings pages also, VPN works. @win32,the full version of settings still crashes. Otherwise the browser is pretty much stable and usable, since the flags section is available. And it is very fast, even on the ancient system from 2009.

I don't do plain chrome patching, not interested in it, sorry. I mostly patch Opera and similar. But I sent the instructions on what needs to be done to the creator of the ex-kernel for Vista @win32, and it will be implemented in the new kernel, so you all will be able to use the new Opera and Chrome. From what I see, no one's gonna do anything for windows 7.There's only talk, talk and talk.

no its not opensource and vista ExKernel is to nt 6.1 version so its to windows 7 changing that will be hard becouse it dont work like you are going to shell32.dl and change minor version to 1 or 0 if windows 10

I liked that you opened up but of course not that your'e sad. Any bright spots today?

Sad.

Sup, Mina? How are you?

I just discovered your article. You are trying to install Windows Vista on Post-Ivy Bridge hardware. Vista, specifically x64, tends to have weird glitches on post-Ivy Bridge hardware, such as certain services not starting automatically. It is possible to install Vista on UEFI Class 3, as you already know I have done, but the Surface Pro 1 I used was pre-Haswell. I don't recommend using UEFISeven, from my personal experience, FlashBootPro EFI files would work better. Like stated before, @George King on MyDigitalLife has made a program called XP2ESD, download that, and in the apps folder, copy the efi folder in the FlashBootPro to your EFI partition, while keeping the BCD file. You also must have a SATA AHCI hard drive. If you don't, you will have to integrate NVME drivers into the ISO.

my new computer is out for delivery and should be here from the 14-16 (from canada)

Windows 2000 is a good operating system.

I don't see many posting of the universe from you anymore?!

I don't think you understand the complexity of such a thing, besides that, I also don't think that win32 is going to let us down in the near future

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230204-3219d2d-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20230204-3219d2d-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230204-3219d2d-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230204-d849524bd-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230204-d849524bd-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230204-d849524bd-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win64-git-20230204-d849524bd-uxp-a234f6917-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #1382 - Remove incorrect assertion. (8f3badf88) - No issue - bump default platform UA compatibility mode to 102.0 (d89f4e145) - [xpcom] remove incorrect assertion. (8bf892d72) - Issue #2083 - Part 1: Make RegExpShared a GC thing. (3796c7c1e) - Issue #2083 - Part 2: Remove use of RegExpGuard. (d163d08cb) - Issue #2083 - Part 3: Fix RegExpShared rooting hazards now it's a GC thing. (2ac60a27c) - Issue #2083 - Part 4: Give RegExpShared a finalizer. (9824659d3) - Issue #2083 - Part 5: Fix memory leak in RegExpObject. (b7e453086) - Revert "Issue #1382 - RegExpShared::groupsTemplate_ cannot be a GCPtr since RegExpShared is managed by C++" (233802c9a) - Issue #2089 - Shrink Promise instances from 8 to 4 slots by moving debug information to an external object (ed8af362b) - Issue #2089 - Only create result Promises in Promise#then and Promise#catch if it's used or the creation is otherwise observable (6e2201d3a) - Issue #2089 - Turn AsyncGeneratorResumeNext recursion into iteration to avoid stack overflow (55eacd43a) - Issue #2089 - Optimize Promise.then and Promise.all/race with default resolving functions (9744b0c2b) - Issue #2089 - Don't use BlockOnPromise fast path with non-default resolving functions, combine default resolving functions flags (ee395231d) - Issue #2089 - Improve Runtime perf of Promises (1fd51e14f) - Issue #2089 - Add a PromiseCapability struct, directly initialize dense elements in PerformPromiseAll using NewbornArrayPush (c0b1bf7e1) - Issue #2089 - Create a shared helper for PerformPromiseRace, PerformPromiseAll and PerformPromiseAllSettled (5ff7a51da) - Issue #2089 - Further runtime perf improvements for PromiseState (078daa705) - Issue #2089 - Report unhandled rejection for optimized away promise (a215929a3) - Issue #2083 - Follow-up: RegExpShared::source should be a GCPtr. (22dc363c3) - Issue #2099 - Remove unnecessary cast in GeneratorObject::suspend's do loop. (10ef0da5a) - Issue #2089 - Add cache for Promise property lookups (92906d4da) - Issue #2089 - Move ErrorObject parts from jsexn.cpp to ErrorObject.cpp (209c8e06a) - Issue #2089 - Implement AggregateError (61c99bf6c) - Issue #2089 - Rename shared Promise combinator functions, with helpers for element functions (9fc50a992) - Issue #2089 - Implement the Promise.any combinator (f75e9d944) - Issue #2103 - Fix typo in RegExp Parser (8d3f23ed0) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - reverting rev 22dc363c and 233802c9 for now since I got a crash in destructor of RegExpShared. (7faa37b7d) - revert last rev (7faa37b7) and revert rev b7e45308 and 9824659d instead. (4475b2d9f) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt58l.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Hello @roytam1! Even though there are members here who don't appreciate weekly updates of your browsers, I would like to thank you for your regular browser releases, the time you spend on them and your enthusiasm. You maintain so many projects with an incredible continuity that is quite impressive. New Moon 28 and Serpent are my main browsers in Windows XP. And they even work with YouTube on older computers, where 360Chrome is a total failure. Many thanks for that!

I have to concur with you. Years ago, I was the same way as D.Drake about using XP as a daily driver on the Internet. It irked me that people here didn’t want to conform to the conditions of a Microsoft license. I embraced Vista and never looked back. And I wanted the “Luddites” on MSFN to follow suit. That is until ... Windows 10 I really love Windows 8, as many of you know. I came to see how my usage of an EOL product was misunderstood by some. Now I could see how self-centred I was to the XP fans here. I remembered that until Windows 8 came along, that my installation of Windows XP x64 Edition was likely the most stable and fastest environment I had ever worked on. Before that, I recall my years with Windows 2000 with equally great fondness. So, how could I be such a d—k head to those that wanted to run older environments? Sure, my idea of desirable vintage would be 2012 flat. So while I detest the Mozilla Proton interface and the look of Windows 10, I rather like the look of Windows 8 and Quantum. There was still some sort of dimension with the flatness then. Heck, I wish outlook.com web mail still looked like the Windows 8 style Metro client, like it did until 2015. And while daily Internet use of Windows 2000 and XP baffles me, I shouldn’t impose my feelings on others. Moreover, I’m amazed at some of the progress people here have made getting more recent browsers to work on past OS builds. Roytam1 is a big contributor in this arena, but myPal 68 is an even bigger achievement. Apparently, more modern attempts at browsers on Windows 9x are also being developed. I never thought I’d see that. I've come to realize that MSFN is a haven for vintage computing, plain and simple, and one should embrace that. I wish I had been more gracious years ago.

@NotHereToPlayGames Reducing runtime memory in Windows 8 https://web.archive.org/web/20170918122254/https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/b8/2011/10/07/reducing-runtime-memory-in-windows-8/

I would prefer an implementation of UWP for older Windows.

In all honesty, Windows 8.1 is the better of the two. Everything is easier to access due to the readding of the native start button (classic shell on 8 (6.2) doesn't count), plus the start screen in my opinion is more organized. With that, I believe a Windows 8.1 Extended Kernel to be the better option. Since it appears this thread is gonna be dedicated to Windows 8, I'll create a separate thread to see if there is enough interest in a Windows 8.1 Extended Kernel. Before I go, this may be of help to anyone running Windows 8 on modern hardware. I'm under the impression this supports up to 10th Gen Intel. 11th Gen and later as well as subsets such as Jasper Lake are not currently supported, but I'm going to post about that in his thread. Oh, and I think his driver only supports either Q0 or Q1 stepping.

Windows 8.0 6.2.9200 is the best Windows with WDDM 1.2. I'm interested in this too since it's also possible to install Net Framework 4.8 on Server 2012 (same kernel as 8.0) and also PowerShell version 5.1

Windows 8.1 kinda need them... it's just less than a year the EOL would come... and Windows 8.1 it's not a major success and app dev could discontinued app right away..