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Well, that explains the otherwise odd-seeming upping of the required minimum from 113 to 115, at least, if it's the last Win 7-compatible version. In any event, Chase lowered the boom rather quickly this time. I can no longer sign in using either Serpent or 360EE. There appears to be a JSON parsing error in my Chase-specific StructuredClone polyfill. @UCyborg's more sophisticated polyfill doesn't do the trick either since it doesn't handle self-referential objects (same problem as with the StructuredClone built into UXP). Also not working: Chrome 106 on Android 6.0. Edge 109 (on Win 7) still works (so, I assume, Chrome 109 would too), but for how long? It too now has the ominous "We'll stop supporting this browser soon" nag. FF 115 ESR will presumably have a somewhat longer lifespan, but the end is in sight there too. Looks like it's gonna be Thorium and/or Supermium in my future, whether I like non-unGoogled Chromium derivatives or not. I appreciate your honesty; but I daresay your "not-so-humble" opinion very likely puts you out of step with the vast majority of MSFN members. Yes, I know you "upgraded" to Windows 10 and are currently using Chromium 114, so perhaps you don't care what happens to those of us who still use earlier Windows versions (even 8.1); but there will come a day when your OS/browser will stop working too, at which point I will be overjoyed to remind you of your "not-so-humble" opinion! I just rename the folder; e.g., rename "New Moon" to "Old Moon" (delete the "Old Moon" folder first, if it still exists from the last update) and restore the new version into a new "New Moon" folder. I even wrote a batch file that automates the process. You don't lose any settings (unless you made your New Moon installation portable). Yes, I noticed that too, some time ago. It's a longstanding bug that also affects the pages shown by long-clicking the Back button. I just decided to live with it. I think their discussion was specifically about DNS over HTTPS, which wasn't a thing until long after XP EOS. Unfortunately, not likely, given MCP's position: DoH is a double-edged sword. It can be used to conceal your browsing habits from your ISP (probably a good thing) but it can also be used by apps to thwart ad blockers like Pi-Hole, which most users would consider a bad thing. But as usual, MCP fails to understand that their decision not to support DoH will have exactly zero effect on its "bad" uses coming to fruition; all it does is mean that Pale Moon users can't easily avail themselves of its "good" uses. (The apostrophe - D'OH - was clever though.)

Could force a 9xx driver (install from the device manager, 'let me choose,' etc.) & get 2D acceleration. Worked for me with 1050 & 1070 (also on 8th gen B chipset). Plug the display into the motherboard FTW?

@ED_Sln ... Ed, thanks for reply. I did try the Enable VGA mode to no avail. Seems to me the problem is with the GT 1030 and an SVGA driver that got put into my system which is incompatible. Bit of history. At one time, I loaded the XP SP4 upgrade by Harkaz and several things started working better on my XP installation. I have a feeling there was an SVGA driver in the upgrade that worked with my GT 1030 and that driver was subsequently over-written by a later river from Msoft. I don't remember all the details. I have bigger problems at the moment. I was in BIOS tying to get the onboard graphics working and I may have turned on the iGPU feature. Somehow, I can no longer get a display during POST but it shows up later with W10, just before logon. I need to fix that first, hopefully by pulling the CMOS battery and resetting BIOS to default. I know Nvidia went in a different direction with their 10xx series of video cards but I wonder how different the driver is from the 9xx series. I had the GT 1030 working fine in SVGA mode but now it is intermittent. I was fiddling with it one day and suddenly the display turned on again and at the desktop. Have no idea what I did but it seems another driver was interfering.

Thanks! I will test this flag.

I just relied on the comment from Mozilla in xpcom/base/nscore.h. After some further testing, I found out Visual C++ 5.0 SP3 does not produce internal compiler errors because it doesn't support HAVE_CPP_ACCESS_CHANGING_USING, but because it can't use an undefined T (my non expert observation). Mozilla's default definition of T for compilers it allows HAVE_CPP_ACCESS_CHANGING_USING on (every compiler that isn't Visual C++ 5.0) is located in xpcom/base/nsISupportsBase.h. What I did was gave problematic files (there were 2) access to nsISupportsUtils.h, which includes nsISupportsImpl.h, and nsISupportsBase.h. Doing that allowed me to produce a working build of Mozilla 1.6 using Visual C++ 5.0 SP3 (I did use ac_add_options --disable-crypto though).

--disable-highres-timer speeds up considerably.

Disable hardware acceleration stuff

Here is a brief report of my testing so far if someone is interested. Thorium can actually be installed on such an old computer under Windows XP. The browser starts up still quite bearable compared to other browsers on my system. However, as always with Chrome browsers on low-performance computers under Windows, the page loading behaviour is problematic. Although I have configured all conceivable flags to increase performance and selected the settings to suit my hardware, loading web pages takes considerably much longer than with New Moon, Serpent or Mypal. Of course, websites can be loaded that no longer function properly in the already mentioned browsers. Surprisingly, RAM consumption is not a problem, it is rather perfect although Thorium is running in multi-process mode. Interestingly, it seems that I have even found a solution for my installation that considerably speeds up the loading of web pages and therefore the browser start, too. It's not a new one, though. One doesn't have to reinvent the wheel, either. But first, this method must still be thoroughly tested.

Blame Microsoft. Check and make sure C:\Program Files\StartAllBack is empty, or check if it's still installed in appdata if installed per user.

@roytam1 On May 1st if I remember correctly, I asked you if you could build Classilla or Mozilla 1.2 using Visual C++ 5.0 SP3 so you can try reproducing hanging and/or crashing on startup. I did a build of Mozilla 1.6 using Visual C++ 6.0 SP5, but undefined HAVE_CPP_ACCESS_CHANGING_USING, and I discovered that was causing hanging on startup. Trying to use HAVE_CPP_ACCESS_CHANGING_USING on Visual C++ 5.0 SP3 comes with the side effect of producing internal compiler errors... The first of which is while trying to compile netwerk/base/src/nsInputStreamChannel.cpp.

True, but you can only directly configure Windows versions released in last 4 years or so to use DOH (eg. https://www.howtogeek.com/765940/how-to-enable-dns-over-https-on-windows-11/). Older ones require to use a sort of DNS proxy or special support from the browser side. In Windows XP, you can either directly insert the desired DNS service in the native network configuration window, or you do it more convenient with a very few clicks by using a third-party tool like, for example, ChrisPC DNS Switch. I use the Pro version which has more features and is more convenient.

I try to install W11 update 26200.5001 and see this: I uninstalled SaB and restarted Windows. Update started again and still the same window. Any suggestions what is the reason W11 still see SaB in the system? SaB 3.7.9.4907

Here's the link: https://discord.gg/windowsupdaterestored [NOT AN AD]

https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/supermium-portable

That won't disable the API...appropriate setting is at chrome://settings/content/usbDevices Still, I find disabling it pointless...if you're seeing prompts to connect to USB unexpectedly, you should re-evaluate your browsing habits. I would try talking to one of my USB devices through a web browser just because, but I don't know how any of devices work and I'm back at the fact that I hate programming.

it is. pressing the button from start menu, request that. i deleted the file SlideShutDown.exe because i think i want to bypass that, but is not. i think is a Microsoft Implementation of Shutdown in SaB StartMenu 😅

Disable the flag #enable-webusb-device-detection!

Adal

Please tell how do I disable USB detection and WebUsb in Supermium? Thank you!

Not true, it's present even in older Supermium versions, not only the latest. You don't even need update to the latest hotfix 122 of Supermium. Try this. Paste and click enter. chrome://flags/#disable-search-engine-collection

I thought when you post in this thread anyways, you also would surely use Supermium. BTW, Thorium has this flag, too. Yep! I already knew.

I don't have a way to enlarge .text section. you can do the same as NTDLL.DLL, but you have to remove .rsrc section before adding new section. in PE Explorer, open file and goto Data Directories, and set Resource Table to Zero: to this: then goto section page to uncheck .rsrc section: click Yes to both message boxes, and save. then you can add new section. once you finished rewriting cx8 with codes in your new section, we can add back .rsrc with resource hacker: open modded file, Add from resource file: select original(unmodified) file, check all and overwrite and click File -> Save to save it.+

True, roytam1 may do some own tweaks every once in a while, but all the big stuff comes from upstream. True, but you can only directly configure Windows versions released in last 4 years or so to use DOH (eg. https://www.howtogeek.com/765940/how-to-enable-dns-over-https-on-windows-11/). Older ones require to use a sort of DNS proxy or special support from the browser side.

Guys, I just found out the secret of logagent.exe and its use I just read through the assembly codes of "logagent.exe" and... logagent.exe, also known for Windows Media Player Log Agent. The application that logs errors with Windows Media Player. Maybe, just maybe, windows media player is also leading the trails to this logagent.exe, maybe fixing Windows Media Player would fix logagent.exe problem

BTW, how much space does logagent.exe has left. It might be possible.