roytam1 Posted November 1 Author Posted November 1 (edited) New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20241102-3219d2d-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20241102-3219d2d-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20241102-3219d2d-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20241102-d849524bd-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20241102-d849524bd-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20241102-d849524bd-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20241102-d849524bd-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Revert "Issue #2645 - Fix type confusion for `ResumeKind`" (8bbcb50b62) - Issue #2646 - Parse "variations" keywords. (8d536c0cc7) - Issue #2648 - Apply CSP to documents sent through multipart/x-mixed-replace (6fe326c7bb) - Issue #2648 - Inherit the content disposition of the multipart response (5c0c0c02d9) - Bug 1920800 - Remove oldImages from check for flushed old principal handle (9ba1057e54) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes. Edited November 1 by roytam1 4
roytam1 Posted November 1 Author Posted November 1 New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20241102-7bda12e7-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20241102-7bda12e7-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20241102-id-656ea98-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20241102-id-656ea98-ia-93af9a0-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild 2
roytam1 Posted November 1 Author Posted November 1 New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20241102-df498d40f-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20241102-df498d40f-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from UXP: Issue #2646 - Parse "variations" keywords. (8d536c0c) (d3002349e) - import from UXP: Issue #2648 - Apply CSP to documents sent through multipart/x-mixed-replace (6fe326c7) (fa67c714e) - import from UXP: Issue #2648 - Inherit the content disposition of the multipart response (5c0c0c02) (31da70f0e) - import from UXP: Bug 1920800 - Remove oldImages from check for flushed old principal handle (9ba1057e) (df498d40f) 1
hexagonwin Posted November 3 Posted November 3 Hi, is there a way to enable Lightning (the calendar addon) on IceApe-UXP? I tried adding the addon from MailNews and SeaMonkey 2.49.5, but both doesn't seem to work properly.
Mathwiz Posted November 3 Posted November 3 On 10/13/2024 at 4:00 PM, NotHereToPlayGames said: I no longer use UXP and no longer use XP - but this is MSFN and we're all supposed to be diehard XP fans for the next thirty years - sorry, NOT ME, "been there, done that". You do realize you're posting in the "Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes" subforum, don't you? I don't think it's particularly surprising that XP diehards are over-represented here. It's certainly not all of MSFN. On 10/26/2024 at 3:47 AM, UCyborg said: Yes, you're using uncertified browser and not pretending to be using a certified browser. https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31724 If the thread linked above is TL;DR, Moonchild explained: Quote I'm guessing (since it's an nginx error page, i.e. their internet-facing front-end) that this was an attempt by them to combat bot scraping of search results or similar, causing false positives on Pale Moon (and other UXP-based browsers) if they are not set to Firefox Compatibility mode. Both Gecko compat and Native UA modes trigger the error page. It would be illogical for DDG to block Pale (and New) Moon intentionally, since DDG and MCP are business partners. DDG must've just, um, forgot when they set this up. So presumably, DDG will have this fixed soon; in the meantime, you can use Firefox compatibility mode (or an SSUAO), or turn off "Redirect when necessary" under DDG's "Privacy" settings, to work around the issue. On 10/28/2024 at 11:04 PM, Asp said: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.7) Goanna/6.7 PaleMoon/33.2 If "Mozilla" isn't what they want,, what should it be? They don't want Mozilla. Every browser alive has a user agent that starts with Mozilla/5.0! It's a historical artifact stemming from the Netscape browser's dominance oh so long ago. They want Firefox, like this: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:115.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/115.2 On 10/26/2024 at 5:47 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said: ECMAScript is not owned or operated by Google! Strictly speaking, that is correct. However, the implication of your post is that ECMAScript is completely independent of Google; apparently you think they just pull new Javascript features out of their collective arses, and Chromium and Mozilla then dutifully implement said features. But you know that's nonsense. Anyone can see that Google has a massive influence (and Mozilla a lesser influence, and MCP no influence whatsoever) over ECMAScript. After all, Google owns the dominant Web browser! I think you just saw "Chromium-exclusive features" (which, to be sure, was a wrong thing to say) and went off half-cocked a bit. But our opinions about Google's degree of "fault" in all this don't really matter. After all, the Web is what it has become, and any browser has to be able to handle what it'll find there: Quote Google had the resources to design a browser that manages to cope better with web pages that are loaded up with colossal and extravagant amounts of JavaScript. So, if one wants good performance on modern Web pages when running XP, it's gonna be Supermium or Thorium. I resent the fact that there's no "unGoogled" Chromium-based browser for XP diehards, but them's the breaks. On 10/30/2024 at 4:30 PM, AstroSkipper said: CRX files are extensions for Chrome/Chromium browsers. Are you aware that this thread here is dedicated to @roytam1's browser releases? They are all based on Firefox up to version 52. So, what are you talking here about? Actually version 53 (you forgot about St 55)! Be that as it may, it sounds like you missed the start of the discussion, which was NHTPG complaining about DDG turning AdNauseum off (which in turn was in response to questions about DDG no longer working properly in New/Pale Moon - see above). NHTPG also mentioned that he preferred AdNauseum's UI over uBO's, but didn't go into specifics. As it turned out, it wasn't some sneaky DDG Javascript; rather, AdNauseum just disables itself on several sites, including DDG. The reason for this (which NHTPG disapproves of, although others may disagree) was discovered and explained. So the discussion was relevant to anyone using either DDG or AdNauseum, whether on @roytam1's browsers or others; it wasn't Chromium-specific. On 10/31/2024 at 11:40 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said: I'm surprised I haven't been FIRED for these "words" showing up from a company computer on a company network! Luckily, those words appear within the filter lists you're downloading. You're unlikely to get in trouble as long as they aren't part of a URL you're visiting. On 11/1/2024 at 12:48 PM, UCyborg said: UXP is at its all time best as far as web compatibility goes. Well, it was probably a bit better when it was first introduced . But yes; it went downhill for a while, and some sites still need browser-slowing polyfills, but today (performance issues and occasional tab crashes aside), it's really not bad. 2
AstroSkipper Posted November 4 Posted November 4 2 hours ago, Mathwiz said: Actually version 53 (you forgot about St 55)! That's correct, and I was aware of this. But as most of @roytam1's browser editions are based on Firefox 52, I deliberately excluded Serpent 55. 2 hours ago, Mathwiz said: it sounds like you missed the start of the discussion, which was NHTPG complaining about DDG turning AdNauseum off No, I didn't miss it. But I couldn't see any reference to the legacy UXP browsers. And this thread is not about Chrome or Chromium browser. Hence my comment. 4
NotHereToPlayGames Posted November 4 Posted November 4 7 hours ago, Mathwiz said: But our opinions about Google's degree of "fault" in all this don't really matter. After all, the Web is what it has become, and any browser has to be able to handle what it'll find there: So, if one wants good performance on modern Web pages when running XP, it's gonna be Supermium or Thorium. I resent the fact that there's no "unGoogled" Chromium-based browser for XP diehards, but them's the breaks. The reason for this (which NHTPG disapproves of, although others may disagree) was discovered and explained. So the discussion was relevant to anyone using either DDG or AdNauseum, whether on @roytam1's browsers or others; it wasn't Chromium-specific.
Leokids123 Posted November 4 Posted November 4 On 11/1/2024 at 8:07 PM, roytam1 said: New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20241102-3219d2d-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20241102-3219d2d-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20241102-3219d2d-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20241102-d849524bd-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20241102-d849524bd-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20241102-d849524bd-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20241102-d849524bd-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Revert "Issue #2645 - Fix type confusion for `ResumeKind`" (8bbcb50b62) - Issue #2646 - Parse "variations" keywords. (8d536c0cc7) - Issue #2648 - Apply CSP to documents sent through multipart/x-mixed-replace (6fe326c7bb) - Issue #2648 - Inherit the content disposition of the multipart response (5c0c0c02d9) - Bug 1920800 - Remove oldImages from check for flushed old principal handle (9ba1057e54) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes. On 11/1/2024 at 8:08 PM, roytam1 said: New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20241102-7bda12e7-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20241102-7bda12e7-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20241102-id-656ea98-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20241102-id-656ea98-ia-93af9a0-uxp-4397f384a7-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild On 11/1/2024 at 8:08 PM, roytam1 said: New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20241102-df498d40f-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20241102-df498d40f-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from UXP: Issue #2646 - Parse "variations" keywords. (8d536c0c) (d3002349e) - import from UXP: Issue #2648 - Apply CSP to documents sent through multipart/x-mixed-replace (6fe326c7) (fa67c714e) - import from UXP: Issue #2648 - Inherit the content disposition of the multipart response (5c0c0c02) (31da70f0e) - import from UXP: Bug 1920800 - Remove oldImages from check for flushed old principal handle (9ba1057e) (df498d40f) You forgot to put Retrozilla build in this month. I made changes to it and i wanna see if others aren't annoyed anymore.
UCyborg Posted November 4 Posted November 4 23 hours ago, Mathwiz said: You do realize you're posting in the "Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes" subforum, don't you? I don't think it's particularly surprising that XP diehards are over-represented here. It's certainly not all of MSFN. But he is on older NT 2016 OS I believe. Maybe this section needs to be renamed to Browsers working on Retro NT-Family OSes?
j7n Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Old is not synonymous with retro. Retro is something made today in the style of the past. The word is usually associated with motion backwards. Maybe if Reactos actually got released, you could call that retro. 2
UCyborg Posted November 6 Posted November 6 IDK, people keep referring to using older hardware/software as retrocomputing. Dunno how much in common Tobin's last Interlink still has with current UXP mail clients, but it went nuts yesterday morning and lost all mails. All folders disappeared, errors boxes showed up regarding setup filters dealing with non-existing folders. Nothing was really lost since the account in question was Gmail (IMAP). It slowly redownloaded everything. Just odd...nothing in the console either.
Mark-XP Posted November 7 Posted November 7 On 11/6/2024 at 1:08 AM, UCyborg said: Dunno how much in common Tobin's last Interlink still has with current UXP mail clients, but it went nuts yesterday morning and lost all mails. All folders disappeared, errors boxes showed up regarding setup filters dealing with non-existing folders. Nothing was really lost since the account in question was Gmail (IMAP). It slowly redownloaded everything. Just odd...nothing in the console either. Did you try: Edit -> Folder Properties -> Repair Folder ? This saved my a.. lately (in context with threads).
UCyborg Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) I suspect it wouldn't help since when it happened, most disk space occupied by mails was reclaimed. I suppose I'd get local copies of mails back faster in the best case scenario if such recovery method worked. Edited November 7 by UCyborg
Mathwiz Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/4/2024 at 4:13 PM, UCyborg said: But he is on older NT 2016 OS I believe. I think in this context, "older" means post-EOS, so Win 10 won't count for a few more years. Of course anyone is welcome here, whether they use an "older" NT-based OS or not. I was only pointing out that the very nature of this subforum will attract a disproportionate share of Win XP diehards, since XP was one of Micro$oft's most popular "older" OSes. On 11/5/2024 at 10:56 AM, j7n said: Old is not synonymous with retro. Retro is something made today in the style of the past. The word is usually associated with motion backwards. Maybe if Reactos actually got released, you could call that retro. I like that definition, even if not everyone uses the term that way. ReactOS is meant to be a Windows clone in the "style" of XP, although to be practical it must support at least some functionality of newer Windows versions. UXP browsers are another good example of that "retro" definition. They have the look and feel of older Firefox versions, but they do a halfway decent job of rendering many modern Web sites (as long as you're very patient). 1
NotHereToPlayGames Posted November 8 Posted November 8 2 hours ago, Mathwiz said: (as long as you're very patient) Very very very VERY patient.
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