My Browser Builds (Part 5)

**Slavich** · October 15

On 10/14/2024 at 12:15 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I downloaded your mediafire version and it is BY FAR THE BEST that I have seen for a NM28+YouTube. NO EXTENSION OR SCRIPT monkey business and YouTube is at SINGLE-DIGIT CPU.

Can I ask about the frequency of your processor, video memory and RAM?

Edited October 15 by Slavich

**UCyborg** · October 15

Months or more than a year ago it was possible to force YouTube to use certain polyfills for Web Components that made its UI more responsive, basically pretending to be Firefox 42 and Pale Moon at the same time. Native Web Components implementation was supposed to make it faster, but TBH, I never noticed much difference between native and slower polyfills that were used as-is on YouTube then.

That POS Lenovo (the one with dual-core 1,35 GHz and 2 GB of RAM shared with GPU) always struggled with 720p@60 FPS on Mozilla based on Windows, the old pre-Chromium Edge was the best for video performance (though YT's GUI was sloooow). I haven't checked if that browser still works on YouTube.

Running XP may improve the number of simultaneously running tabs, if it can even be installed, the laptop is from 2014, so maybe after digging for drivers? But no accelerated video decoding in any browser, maybe pasting link in dedicated video player like PotPlayer still works if the module to work with YouTube can still be updated manually? Or ask VORAPIS guys to bring back Flash Player support.

Running older browser, even if just for YouTube seems like too much bother for me, even if it does work better.

Edited October 15 by UCyborg

**grey_rat** · October 15

PotPlayer used DXVA1 in WinXP (ATI HD2400+)

or play in browser plugin WMP (using DXVA1 or NVCUVID)

Example, mobile Youtube in WinXP, play in: browser new tab, WMP plugin, and PotPlayer

**NotHereToPlayGames** · October 15

3 hours ago, grey_rat said:

Example, mobile Youtube in WinXP

Right there could be your PROBLEM.

I haven't tried for a year or so, but the last time I forced my DESKTOP to use MOBILE YOUTUBE, it d#mn near killed my CPU by pegging it 100% where the "normal" non-debloated YouTube ran at only 20%.

**UCyborg** · October 15

I played with ViewTube script few times, not much since I don't really "need" it on my daily driver. Years ago I've read VP9 is supposed to be slightly better in quality, though these days I hear YouTube encodes worse in VP9...so since my CPU runs VP9 fine anyway and old GPU doesn't do VP9, HW decoding didn't seem as important.

I can't find that blog post where they were introducing VP9 and showing how it gets rids of some jaggies that were present on the same video encoded with H.264.

**JosefReisinger** · October 15

On 8/18/2024 at 7:59 PM, JosefReisinger said:

Hey ;-)

One website of the vpn connection is working after upgrading to palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20240810-d849524bd-uxp-fde09c8b49-xpmod.7z, thank you so much. The other website complains about mime mismatch:

"Fehler: Die Ressource "https://XXX:11443/remote/login?lang=en" wurde durch einen MIME-Typenkonflikt blockiert (X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff)."

With mypal68 I'm able to work with the website, but it is a little bit buggy (crashes).

Could palemoon be adviced in a future version to ignore the mismatch? Or could you provide instruction how to get rid of the mime problem for this particular website with the current version?

Greetings Joe

Hey, roytam1, "nosniff" problem is gone with palemoon 12102024, thank you so much :thumbup

Greetings Joe

**grey_rat** · October 16

14 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I haven't tried for a year or so, but the last time I forced my DESKTOP to use MOBILE YOUTUBE, it d#mn near killed my CPU by pegging it 100% where the "normal" non-debloated YouTube ran at only 20%.

This is a YouTube bug, the loading icon animation works even when hidden.

It can be fixed if you add it to the uBlock

m.youtube.com##.spinner:style(animation: none !important)

**NotHereToPlayGames** · October 16

I already implement that widely-known trick. Even with that, running the MOBILE version on a DESKTOP is "not all that it is cracked up to be".

**UCyborg** · October 16

Mobile UI on desktop is horrible IMHO. If I want mobile version, I'll visit it on a smartphone, though I prefer the dedicated app there.

**modnar** · October 16

You need no mobile version, just normal version with h264ify extension (in Serpent 52.9). And yeah their HD quality is not what it used to be - I believe they're just saying it's at 1080p when in reality they're doing some monkey business in the back.

**grey_rat** · October 16

There is an extension of "YouTube Mobile for Desktop", it changes the player

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mobile-for-desktop/

VP9 easier h264 in browser player

**NotHereToPlayGames** · October 16

2 hours ago, modnar said:

I believe they're just saying it's at 1080p

You can take a VHS and copy it to DVD. That doesn't make it hi-def. :cool:

**UCyborg** · October 16

People are talking all over the place, some talk about decoding performance, some about sluggish UI. My main issue is with UI, but that V3 / PROJECT VORAPIS or whatever they call it addresses that pretty well. Still a bit slow on POS Lenovo.

11 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

You can take a VHS and copy it to DVD. That doesn't make it hi-def.

Don't play much games these days, not sure if they're all recorded/encoded like that, but it's incredible how blurry gameplay videos end up on YouTube.

**Slavich** · October 17

On 10/14/2024 at 12:15 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I downloaded your mediafire version and it is BY FAR THE BEST that I have seen for a NM28+YouTube. NO EXTENSION OR SCRIPT monkey business and YouTube is at SINGLE-DIGIT CPU.

This version of NM28 will be released on a single-core Athlon XP with a frequency of 2200 Ghz, 128 MB discrete graphics card, 3 GB of RAM, Windows XP with Service Pack 3?