My Browser Builds (Part 5)

[Sampei.Nihira]

2 hours ago, modnar said:

Read for example here and here. That is to say startpage.com now apparently uses Bing too as well as all the others...

StartPage search is different from searching with Google,which we can take as a point of reference.
Whereas with DDG it is similar.

 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

16 minutes ago, Sampei.Nihira said:

https://start.duckduckgo.com/

Same result!  I have added NO EXCEPTIONS for DDG of any kind.  DDG and start.DDG both somehow turn my adblocker OFF!

This is in Official Chrome (so [slightly] OT).

[Sampei.Nihira]

8 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Same result!  I have added NO EXCEPTIONS for DDG of any kind.  DDG and start.DDG both somehow turn my adblocker OFF!

This is in Official Chrome (so [slightly] OT).

Check if there is a "Trusted Websites" setting in the extension (and there is an exception for DDG).

In this list (almost entirely created by you) UBO is disabled.

Edited October 29, 2024 by Sampei.Nihira

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Already done all of that.  I have no exceptions set for DDG!

[vinifera]

same here
never had problems with ubo and DDG

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I can confirm that it is not uBO.  But rather something that a fork of uBO called AdNauseum is doing.

Gives me something to dig into over the weekend, lol.

Kind of a bummer, I actually prefer AdNauseum's interface to uBO's interface.

Definitely a bit SHADY for "special treatment" to DuckDuckGo (not too big of an issue as I do not use DuckDuckGo anyway).

I've heard rumors that uBO has embedded telemetry but I cannot claim to have dug into that, I only know I've not seen any with AdNauseum.

[dmiranda]

Yeah, rumours from your favorite browser, Mozilla Firefox, about the new lite Ublock. They took it back, apologize and such, to no avail..

[UCyborg]

On 10/29/2024 at 5:04 AM, Asp said:

User Agent is the default:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.7) Goanna/6.7 PaleMoon/33.2

 

If "Mozilla" isn't what they want,, what should it be?

Every user agent has Mozilla/5.0, it's just meaningless at this point. You can either create a special user agent override for DuckDuckGo or turn on Firefox compatibility in settings under Advanced, as @roytam1 said. On official Pale Moon, it looks like like this then:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/6.7 Firefox/102.0 PaleMoon/33.4.0.1

For adding exception just for DDG, open about:config page, right-click on any entry->New->String->type general.useragent.override.duckduckgo.com->OK->Mozilla/5.0 (%OS_SLICE% rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/102.0->OK. Well, you could add PaleMoon/Goanna parts if you wanted to emulate behavior of Firefox compatibility setting, but as a hopefully temporary workaround, I wouldn't make a fuss about it.

[adata]

There's a problem with twitter links
All links are redirected in browsers Basilisk and Palemoon to
https://twitter.com/home

Trying to open the page, example:
https://twitter.com/intel
https://twitter.com/Samsung
https://twitter.com/Samsung/status/1851426331348873239
https://twitter.com/itechnosmith/status/1851402592493982199

All these pages the browser redirects sequentially to:

https://twitter.com/?mx=1
https://twitter.com/home?mx=1

And each site is ultimately targeted:

https://twitter.com/home

That is, practically no links from twitter works well, the browser can not direct us to the expected page, it throws us out on "home".

[roytam1]

19 minutes ago, adata said:

There's a problem with twitter links
All links are redirected in browsers Basilisk and Palemoon to
https://twitter.com/home

Trying to open the page, example:
https://twitter.com/intel
https://twitter.com/Samsung
https://twitter.com/Samsung/status/1851426331348873239
https://twitter.com/itechnosmith/status/1851402592493982199

All these pages the browser redirects sequentially to:

https://twitter.com/?mx=1
https://twitter.com/home?mx=1

And each site is ultimately targeted:

https://twitter.com/home

That is, practically no links from twitter works well, the browser can not direct us to the expected page, it throws us out on "home".

change twitter.com to x.com

[NotHereToPlayGames]

17 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Definitely a bit SHADY for "special treatment" to DuckDuckGo (not too big of an issue as I do not use DuckDuckGo anyway).

Found the culprit!  AdNauseam "abides" by EFF.org's DNT list and ALLOWS ADS if a web site "abides" by "Do Not Track" standards as set by EFF.org.

NOT ON MY COMPUTER!  I DON'T WANT ADS EVEN FROM WEB SITES THAT 'ABIDE BY EFF DNT'.  Problem fixed on my local personal-use version of AdNauseaum.

[AstroSkipper]

AdNauseam v3.7.802 is the last version for legacy Firefox browsers. It is from 28.09.2018 and based on uBlock Origin 1.15.24 which is of course older than the last, official (legacy) version uBlock Origin 1.16.4.30 or 1.16.4.31b2. So, what are the advantages supposed to be?

Edited October 30, 2024 by AstroSkipper

[NotHereToPlayGames]

2 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

So, what are the advantages supposed to be?

I've reverted to "non-forked" uBO.

The AdNauseam experience was a great experience, to be honest.  But I do not do DNT BS and that alone has me ditching AdNauseam.

The AdNauseam approach DOES WORK.  It is an entirely different approach to privacy by "confusing" the advertisers instead of trying to avoid them completely.

I've been using it since July 6th (the date of my modified .crx), but only just yesterday discovered how it gives "special treatment" to DuckDuckGo and anybody else that can fool EFF.org into falling for marketing ploys.

 

[AstroSkipper]

2 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I've been using it since July 6th (the date of my modified .crx)

CRX files are extensions for Chrome/Chromium browsers. Are you aware that this thread here is dedicated to @roytam1's browser releases?  They are all based on Firefox up to version 52. So, what are you talking here about? 

Edited October 30, 2024 by AstroSkipper
correction

[NotHereToPlayGames]

No sh..t.

I am talking BOTH my Chromium AND my SERPENT 52!  But YES, I can concede that mentioning crx instead of xpi was "misleading".  I CONCEDE THAT, lol.

AdNauseam is available for BOTH !!!  And the "special treatment" is done in BOTH.  You have obviously not even tried AdNauseam and just want to make it look like I am "OT".  I am not.

My .crx is just my REFERENCE POINT because 90% of my work is done in Chromium, NOT IN SERPENT.  (To be honest, my days are drawing near where I will likely no longer use ANY uxp-based browser, too slow and just "nostalgic" to keep around.)

Also, I did join GitHub to raise the concern of the "special treatment".  It is "intended" and I will no longer be using AdNauseam because of this "special treatment".

 

Edited October 31, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames