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About panda acting up, same as before, but now crappier: service crashes and even on occasions with no service crashes now sistem also becomes very slow while clicking through start menu, e.g. recent documents. Even doing regular tasks, opening e.g. Task Manager I had to wait around 1 minute before it would open. And get this: panda decided it's king of the system somehow and Diskeeper that I use could not even save fragmentation prevented statistics for the current day. The next day it showed as "---------" (none). Unglaublich! Anyhow, applying their panda-b-gone uninstaller things are finally making sense. P.S.: Regarding this about IOBit Malware fighter Its drivers have win7x86 path, and it just makes AppData/Local/Low directories in XP as if it owns the place. Not applicable. Yes, Comodo can be good, though their HIPS system can be quite heavy (but that is with Comodo Firewall). I used both (AV & FW) in the past. Might test it again... They are advertising all over the place "It's Free" and then when wanting to download, you get hit with the remark "for 60 days" when there is a comparison drawn between the two releases. Disgusting!
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The problem with VirIT is their quote: "Virus and malware removal for 60 days", so a non-starter for me. Oh and Panda is acting up again, surprise surprise. :-/
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I forgot to answer that one. No no, I don't use any fancy kernel extensions, just USP4. 12.5 is for XP no doubt. However I already threw it off my box because it's too cut-down. I have, as before, observed that Panda (my favourite version 22.03.01) 2x calls rootsupd.exe (XP's cert thing) during installation, so I quickly reacted and after the second time I ran a-new extracted Thomas' CA Updater so it finished before green-blue Panda orb appeared in the tray. We'll see if this now works. As I said before - the whole thing to me is certificates, don't know specifics though. Depths of Satan... Otherwise it's Avast patchwork quilt for me again...
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Don't you have UnofficialSP4 from harkaz installed? There is all you need in that Service Pack.
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Here it is: https://sourceforge.net/app/iobit-malware-fighter/
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Yeah, that's what they're doing to us. Anyhow - a few pieces of news: a) with Panda installed going into WinXP SafeMode takes about 1 minute or maybe more (feature?) b) Panda 21.01 hasn't worked here either - same problems c) Avast 18.5.2342 - now I know why it wants internet - because even if you choose manual update in "Program update" it will do it in the background (instup: their setup) and update to 18.8.2356 (18.8.4084.0 internally) and then wants you to restart. But then again we come to the csrss overloading, so - a non starter. d) IOBit Malware fighter 11.4 works well and updates to july 2026 definitions. e) Today I punched into Serpent search engine iobit malware fighter xp and there was also a find of sourceforge, so went there, downloaded it and it's a 12.5.0.1545 and it installs and works merrily on WinXP. I believe it's a keeper.
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You know, Avast 18.5.2342 is a non-starter, offline installation (without internet conncted) starts and installs everything, at the end where it's the option to restart, it also says it failed. Upon restarting it's as if nothing was installed. Idi0t bit Malware fighter is also a doesn'tworkstation. It's for vista and up, as if you can't run a stupid AV program with minifilters in XP. Must be a conspiracy against XP. Nasty!
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While browsing on filepuma (where I got Avast 18.5.2342) I saw IOBit malware fighter free and from what I know them - all their programs run on WinXP. Has anyone tried it? I'll give it a go and also test 18.5 Avast.
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Thank you for your effort. I shall certainly do that. Perhaps it won't belabor the csrss. As I know now there are 2 instances of csrss (client-server kernel communicator) running on StupidWindows™ (NT 6.x) and only one on Win2K/XP. So it shows Avast bastards are deliberately doing this, simply acting as there was never WinXP. Let them wallow in their own mire.
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I'm experimenting with Avast again... Good to see things moving. Might be resolved after all.
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Heh! What a mess Pandas cooked up what with their clumsy paws and all. Did M$ order them also to sour up XP? Others sure have followed. Or it's just their selfishness. I know that all those years I had AVG, Avast and also Avira they should be paying me now from all the benefits they received from their snooping, not cancel XP out. But traitors are among us. For now I'm waiting to see if Pandas respond to Dave's message before I uninstall it for good and proceed with plan F (stands for failure). Oh by the way, PSANHost crashed 2 times today already (the second day 22.03.04 is installed), once at boot delaying boot time (when it shows tray icons) by 30s ('cause recovery time is set to 30s) and once for sport just some time ago.
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Wow! What news! Also - have you ever had happen that your RAM was at different speed than set in BIOS? I had that apparently since the last time I was changing a disk portion of BIOS, never touched RAM, today I finally checked with RAM tester and saw the numbers (no errors, just too much speed) - a reset of "Case open" status and F10 and this is settled. No more exacerbation of PSANHost problems with this. Even better - Since at least here .01 and .05 versions do not function properly, I downloaded .04 version from Sooftware (thank you @AstroSkipper) and no more PSANHost crashes! It also installed very quickly compared to .01 or .05 (which even failed more times than not). Peace again! Suh-weet! Well the end of that chapter came rather abruptly - PSANHost crash (and recovery) @ 16:51. At 16:24 was the first self-update since installation (and didn't crash). PSANHost even crashes every so often while browsing (Serpent 52.9) looks like it's allergic to the browser or something. This whole debacle looks to me like some serious certificate self-made conflict while at Panda they claim XP superiority. We'll see if they at all bother to reply to Dave's mail.
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KB2839299_2003 derived fltMgr upgrade that it is not...
modnar replied to modnar's topic in Windows XP
After oh so much testing - the answer for XP fltmgr is hidden not in Windows2003, but in fully updated Windows 2000; as XP is nothing but upgraded (poorly) Win2000 (best Windows ever). -
You can also try sending Panda peoplez a report via web-form on their site. I tried and it said I don't have an account although anti-virus is activated. Hypocrites - claming XP support and then this! P.S.: And crash again at evening update. As the doctorb ordered.
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Well not so good anymore, PSANHost again crashed around 18:35 when it updated. The other times I manually clicked Start Antivirus, this time I let it be and it recuperated on its own. Hopefull it'll work, or something. Indeed. Avast for XP is fine, although bloated on the outside I always chose only the 4 shields in "Custom" installation and it doesn't slow down the system hardly at all. If only it wouldn't pester csrss (it usually shows the next day). Just try it OK, for science. You can delete it later.
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Please do, Mr. Iwearblackglassesinthemiddleofthenight. I don't see any other antivirus available for XP anymore, do you? Your analysis would also be needed to fix Avast and its belabouring of the Client Server Runtime Process (csrss) service. I find Avast better than any other really because of its 3 point protection. In the meanwhile I purged and re-instated all certificates, 2x uninstalled Panda with their uninstaller.exe and clean-installed 22.03.01 (22.03.05 is slow to start here too). So far so good.
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Just converting partition to FAT will make NT4.0 unbootable. It's configured for NTFS. It's complicated with these old NT's. They're very specific. Boot loader is another problem. I'm actually in awe you managed to build the whole thing. It's quite involved I imagine. Too much for me.
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Root Certificates and Revoked Certificates for Windows XP
modnar replied to heinoganda's topic in Windows XP
As I wrote in Anti-virus topic - if you have Panda FreeAV, you'd better update these or PSANhost starts crashing repeatedly. -
Looks like they've fixed Vista problems with that patch and not Win7 (2009 was too late for that as it seems). Is it NTFS metadata handling or what? You can trust Microslop to break good things. If you are going to reinstall, make a 2GB (max.) FAT16 partition and try that. Install should look the same - It shall ask you if you want to convert FAT16 to NTFS. About handling boot loader stuff I wouldn't know.
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Good! I'm glad I could help. For Partition magic try looking at registry with maybe Hiren's Boot CD (contains Registry Editor PE that can open Registry of e.g. WinXP that is OFFLINE, just on disk). Maybe Partition magic registered some "Upper Filter" or "Lower Filter" in "Disk Driver" class (or some other "Class") - that is HKLM/System/ControlSet001/Contro/Class/4D36E967-... .
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One of the sites with the list of updates is: https://www.hpcfactor.com/support/cesd/200240/windows_nt_40_workstation_patches_updates_guide/ But the one that would help which I also do not have would be Q326643 (Ntfs.sys hotfix) that was listed on Erpman's website back when it still existed... I don't believe NT4.0 gains NTFS v3.1 access by any of updates, it just might not mess it up with that one. You could try disabling NTFS service (Start=4 in registry) and other services that are responsible for it but I don't know.
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Not to forget: A very interesting setup you got there. I like it. I had NT4.0 installed way back when on FAT16 (max. 2GB) partition and it ran normally. The problem is it will still be able to read/write your Win7 NTFS partition and make it slow. Have you installed any post-NT4.0 SP6(A) updates? Like the SP6(B) pak (Q299444i)? There are also ~38 updates after SP6A that can be installed to possibly fix NT4 to not mess with other disks.
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My Browser Builds (Part 6)
modnar replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thank you kindly. I have downloaded the new packages and updated my installations. P.S.: I have observed that as in any new version it's good to reset all the "media." variables in "about:config and then restart browser a few times. Makes youtube more fluent...