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Yes, I got exatly the same dates (27.8.2026 and 5.9.2025) with Thomas CA updater on another installation. P.S.: Another installation - to make a screenshot, @Dave-H .

A few days ago I was signed out of msfn.org because of the Forum upgrade or sth. and I signed in with no issues in the 2026-08-01 Serpent 52.9. So... Go for it!

Thank you @roytam1 for new release I use Serpent and BOC. Serpent for me sometimes crashes on this here forum (mozjs.dll), but no biggy; must be my XP optimisations that relax the disk transactions so it's more responsive than XP ever was supposed to be (with no substitutes for its fltmgr)... P.S.: Memory leaks are more pronounced in this version (compared to 26-08-01) - could this be fixed somehow, or an option to limit the amount of RAM Serpent is allowed to use? For this I'm trying memory.low_physical_memory_threshold_mb set to 1535 to really discipline browser so there's enough RAM for other tasks. We'll see.

Hey everyone! New certificates are available through Thomas' CA Updater! Wasn't really attentive, I believe the date they carry is september 2026.

@Multibooter What are the results of your win2003 fltmgr testing in WinXP SP3?

"we are unable to investigate or provide support", that's the easiest way out.

I don't believe you'll be able to install NT4.0 from USB, even XP cannot be done this way, it has to be from a CD-ROM disk. I hope you make it work.

Vista, even Vista SP2 is version NT 6.0 (6002), I don't know where you got 6.1, that's Win "7". Now do that in real XP; WinXP has always been x86 and not that patchwork of so called XP 64-bit. That's server (NT 5.2). With no real software support, so useless.

In the mean time I have cleaned my system of pandas, so I cannot really be of assistance. As we've all observed their technical support is a joke and now also their program is a joke, even more as it was before, so good riddance. I don't know why they would be promoting themselves as best for WinXP though, when clearly they do not want anything to do with us.

About panda acting up, same as before, but now crappier: service crashes and even on occasions with no service crashes now sistem also becomes very slow while clicking through start menu, e.g. recent documents. Even doing regular tasks, opening e.g. Task Manager I had to wait around 1 minute before it would open. And get this: panda decided it's king of the system somehow and Diskeeper that I use could not even save fragmentation prevented statistics for the current day. The next day it showed as "---------" (none). Unglaublich! Anyhow, applying their panda-b-gone uninstaller things are finally making sense. P.S.: Regarding this about IOBit Malware fighter Its drivers have win7x86 path, and it just makes AppData/Local/Low directories in XP as if it owns the place. Not applicable. Yes, Comodo can be good, though their HIPS system can be quite heavy (but that is with Comodo Firewall). I used both (AV & FW) in the past. Might test it again... They are advertising all over the place "It's Free" and then when wanting to download, you get hit with the remark "for 60 days" when there is a comparison drawn between the two releases. Disgusting!

The problem with VirIT is their quote: "Virus and malware removal for 60 days", so a non-starter for me. Oh and Panda is acting up again, surprise surprise. :-/

I forgot to answer that one. No no, I don't use any fancy kernel extensions, just USP4. 12.5 is for XP no doubt. However I already threw it off my box because it's too cut-down. I have, as before, observed that Panda (my favourite version 22.03.01) 2x calls rootsupd.exe (XP's cert thing) during installation, so I quickly reacted and after the second time I ran a-new extracted Thomas' CA Updater so it finished before green-blue Panda orb appeared in the tray. We'll see if this now works. As I said before - the whole thing to me is certificates, don't know specifics though. Depths of Satan... Otherwise it's Avast patchwork quilt for me again...

Don't you have UnofficialSP4 from harkaz installed? There is all you need in that Service Pack.

Here it is: https://sourceforge.net/app/iobit-malware-fighter/

Yeah, that's what they're doing to us. Anyhow - a few pieces of news: a) with Panda installed going into WinXP SafeMode takes about 1 minute or maybe more (feature?) b) Panda 21.01 hasn't worked here either - same problems c) Avast 18.5.2342 - now I know why it wants internet - because even if you choose manual update in "Program update" it will do it in the background (instup: their setup) and update to 18.8.2356 (18.8.4084.0 internally) and then wants you to restart. But then again we come to the csrss overloading, so - a non starter. d) IOBit Malware fighter 11.4 works well and updates to july 2026 definitions. e) Today I punched into Serpent search engine iobit malware fighter xp and there was also a find of sourceforge, so went there, downloaded it and it's a 12.5.0.1545 and it installs and works merrily on WinXP. I believe it's a keeper.

You know, Avast 18.5.2342 is a non-starter, offline installation (without internet conncted) starts and installs everything, at the end where it's the option to restart, it also says it failed. Upon restarting it's as if nothing was installed. Idi0t bit Malware fighter is also a doesn'tworkstation. It's for vista and up, as if you can't run a stupid AV program with minifilters in XP. Must be a conspiracy against XP. Nasty!

Would you please provide WinXP patch too? Or is 2019 updated XP with harkaz' USP4 not problematic?

While browsing on filepuma (where I got Avast 18.5.2342) I saw IOBit malware fighter free and from what I know them - all their programs run on WinXP. Has anyone tried it? I'll give it a go and also test 18.5 Avast.

Thank you for your effort. I shall certainly do that. Perhaps it won't belabor the csrss. As I know now there are 2 instances of csrss (client-server kernel communicator) running on StupidWindows™ (NT 6.x) and only one on Win2K/XP. So it shows Avast bastards are deliberately doing this, simply acting as there was never WinXP. Let them wallow in their own mire.

I'm experimenting with Avast again... Good to see things moving. Might be resolved after all.

Heh! What a mess Pandas cooked up what with their clumsy paws and all. Did M$ order them also to sour up XP? Others sure have followed. Or it's just their selfishness. I know that all those years I had AVG, Avast and also Avira they should be paying me now from all the benefits they received from their snooping, not cancel XP out. But traitors are among us. For now I'm waiting to see if Pandas respond to Dave's message before I uninstall it for good and proceed with plan F (stands for failure). Oh by the way, PSANHost crashed 2 times today already (the second day 22.03.04 is installed), once at boot delaying boot time (when it shows tray icons) by 30s ('cause recovery time is set to 30s) and once for sport just some time ago.

Wow! What news! Also - have you ever had happen that your RAM was at different speed than set in BIOS? I had that apparently since the last time I was changing a disk portion of BIOS, never touched RAM, today I finally checked with RAM tester and saw the numbers (no errors, just too much speed) - a reset of "Case open" status and F10 and this is settled. No more exacerbation of PSANHost problems with this. Even better - Since at least here .01 and .05 versions do not function properly, I downloaded .04 version from Sooftware (thank you @AstroSkipper) and no more PSANHost crashes! It also installed very quickly compared to .01 or .05 (which even failed more times than not). Peace again! Suh-weet! Well the end of that chapter came rather abruptly - PSANHost crash (and recovery) @ 16:51. At 16:24 was the first self-update since installation (and didn't crash). PSANHost even crashes every so often while browsing (Serpent 52.9) looks like it's allergic to the browser or something. This whole debacle looks to me like some serious certificate self-made conflict while at Panda they claim XP superiority. We'll see if they at all bother to reply to Dave's mail.

After oh so much testing - the answer for XP fltmgr is hidden not in Windows2003, but in fully updated Windows 2000; as XP is nothing but upgraded (poorly) Win2000 (best Windows ever).

You can also try sending Panda peoplez a report via web-form on their site. I tried and it said I don't have an account although anti-virus is activated. Hypocrites - claming XP support and then this! P.S.: And crash again at evening update. As the doctorb ordered.

Well not so good anymore, PSANHost again crashed around 18:35 when it updated. The other times I manually clicked Start Antivirus, this time I let it be and it recuperated on its own. Hopefull it'll work, or something. Indeed. Avast for XP is fine, although bloated on the outside I always chose only the 4 shields in "Custom" installation and it doesn't slow down the system hardly at all. If only it wouldn't pester csrss (it usually shows the next day). Just try it OK, for science. You can delete it later.