roytam1 Posted September 18, 2023 Author Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Mehmed said: Your fears are completely justified... Now in multiprocess mode, basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230916 is absolutely non-functional! yeah confirmed, gotta revert upstream commit. 3
j7n Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 If I set image.webp.enabled to false, some websites like YouTube stop loading images.
Mark-XP Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Mathwiz said: Right. Per Mozilla, Security Vulnerability fixed in Firefox 117.0.1, Firefox ESR 115.2.1, Firefox ESR 102.15.1, Thunderbird 102.15.1, and Thunderbird 115.2.2 (the ESR 102 version fixes are for Win 7/8/8.1 users) Yes, and - actually as usual - PortableApps managed NOT to provide that latest, final and hence most important version of the 102 ESR version: https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla Firefox, Portable Ed./ Sometimes More and more often the ignorant behaviour of IT-folks is leaving me speachless. Maybe one weekend (with very bad weather), i'll install the regular 102.15.1 version, compare the differences (to 102.13 portatable) in a diligent file-by-file comparison to spot the changes, and handcraft my own final 102.15 portable version... Edited September 18, 2023 by Mark-XP
VistaLover Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 21 hours ago, Mathwiz said: (the ESR 102 version fixes are for Win 7/8/8.1 users) ... But Firefox ESR 115.2.1 can also run on such WinOSes; it's Fx>=116.0 that isn't supported on Win<10; FWIW, Fx-116.0.3, launched via its "zip" version (extracted from its EXE installer), runs fine on my sister's Win7 SP1 x64 laptop - but, most sadly, 116.0.3 doesn't contain the libwebp patch, so I had her back on 115.2.1 (downgrade was possible, because a back-up of the 115.2.0 profile was created and kept prior to force-updating her to 116.0.3 ) ...
VistaLover Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark-XP said: PortableApps managed NOT to provide that latest, final and hence most important version of the 102 ESR version: https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla Firefox, Portable Ed./ It'd be quite simple to create a portable version (in PAF format) of FxESR-102.15.1 Download https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla Firefox%2C Portable Ed./Mozilla Firefox ESR%2C Portable Edition 102.13.0/FirefoxPortableESR_102.13.0_German.paf.exe/download Install/extract it to a disk location of your own choosing. Navigate to .\PortableApps\FirefoxPortableESR\App\ The contents of directories "Firefox" (32-bit) & "Firefox64" (64-bit) would have to be deleted and substituted with the 102.15.1 ones. https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/102.15.1esr/win32/de/Firefox Setup 102.15.1esr.exe Download, extract with 7-zip; the contents of the extracted "core" dir should be placed inside the above "Firefox" dir https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/102.15.1esr/win64/de/Firefox Setup 102.15.1esr.exe Download, extract with 7-zip; the contents of the extracted "core" dir should be placed inside the above "Firefox64" dir You should be done! When you then invoke the portable PAF launcher (FirefoxPortable.exe), it should launch Fx-102.15.1-x86 (if on a x86 OS) or Fx-102.15.1-x64 if on a x64 OS... (Apologies for the OTs, but I, too, am responding to OTs, sort of ...). Kind regards ... 2
Mathwiz Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Mehmed said: Your fears are completely justified... Now in multiprocess mode, basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230916 is absolutely non-functional! Good to see @roytam1 once again found the problematic commit (presumably, "Make Gecko Media Plugins optional when not building EME or WebRTC" - it must be that one, which he couldn't port to St 55, because e10s is still working for me.) I know Moonchild doesn't believe in those things, so PM is built without them, but St and (I think) Basilisk are built with them, so whatever this massive commit is supposed to accomplish is irrelevant to St/Basilisk anyway. (Of course, EME and WebRTC are themselves pretty irrelevant to St/Basilisk nowadays, since Google has blacklisted the only Widevine versions they'll run, nobody uses Adobe Primetime anymore (except perhaps as an alternative h.264 decoder), and their WebRTC implementation is very outdated.) Roytam1 will probably have to add testing for e10s breakage to his weekly checklist. I'm actually rather surprised that it took this long for e10s issues to start appearing! But the big test is yet to come: what will we e10s fans do when a commit is released that we really need (because, say, it fixes some increasingly common Googlism), but which also breaks e10s? 21 hours ago, UCyborg said: For all we know, Google left the hole there intentionally, now they're trying to cover up. There are things I like about Google, and lots of things I don't, but I'm not that suspicious of them! But as with the above issue, what surprises me most is how long it took for someone to realize there was a problem! I think I read that the bug was introduced when the WebP decoder was optimized for speed back in 2014! Edited September 19, 2023 by Mathwiz
roytam1 Posted September 19, 2023 Author Posted September 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Mathwiz said: I think I read that the bug was introduced when the WebP decoder was optimized for speed back in 2014! may also because of this: https://github.com/webmproject/libwebp/commit/067031eaed11e91d9914e1e872738c7bdf075e0b
Mark-XP Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) Thanks for your advice @VistaLover, indeed my first method obviously was unnecessarily complicated! Edited September 19, 2023 by Mark-XP
UCyborg Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 14 hours ago, Mathwiz said: There are things I like about Google, and lots of things I don't, but I'm not that suspicious of them! Maybe I should've added a "/s". 1
Mathwiz Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, roytam1 said: may also because of this: https://github.com/webmproject/libwebp/commit/067031eaed11e91d9914e1e872738c7bdf075e0b I hope not - Serpent can certainly use all the speedups it can get! But in any case, at least it's fixed now. Edited September 19, 2023 by Mathwiz 2
roytam1 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Posted September 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Mathwiz said: I hope not - Serpent can certainly use all the speedups it can get! But in any case, at least it's fixed now. there are some careless mistakes when people rushing to fix some bugs but it should be fixed for real this time 3
anton12 Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 Hello, here is this special link that causes special problems: https://auf1.tv/das-grosse-interview/kickl-weidel-wende-zum-guten-wird-ein-harter-kampf Both my NM28 and St52 (latest versions) won't play that interview. What is responsible for this: the browsers,the website or is it just Black Magic ?? Any ideas from the experts of this forum ?
mina7601 Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, anton12 said: Hello, here is this special link that causes special problems: https://auf1.tv/das-grosse-interview/kickl-weidel-wende-zum-guten-wird-ein-harter-kampf Both my NM28 and St52 (latest versions) won't play that interview. What is responsible for this: the browsers,the website or is it just Black Magic ?? Any ideas from the experts of this forum ? Actually, the website you linked, displays like that to me on latest St52.
UCyborg Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 54 minutes ago, anton12 said: What is responsible for this: the browsers,the website or is it just Black Magic ?? Just one of the many websites today expecting feature richness (maybe quirkness as well) of typical up-to-date Chromium or Firefox, otherwise, it breaks. Convoluted code behind those sites don't help diagnosing and poor (IMO) developer tools bundled with these browsers don't make the task any easier.
AstroSkipper Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, anton12 said: Hello, here is this special link that causes special problems: https://auf1.tv/das-grosse-interview/kickl-weidel-wende-zum-guten-wird-ein-harter-kampf Both my NM28 and St52 (latest versions) won't play that interview. What is responsible for this: the browsers,the website or is it just Black Magic ?? Any ideas from the experts of this forum ? I personally open all TV related websites on my Android tablet. I don't expect that such websites can be successfully accessed by New Moon 28 or Serpent 52. One thing you can do is to open this link in the latest version of Pale Moon under a more modern OS such as Windows 7 or 10. If it also fails there, you can report in the Pale Moon forum. Maybe, one day a fix will come and can be ported then by @roytam1. 1
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