NotHereToPlayGames

Technically, I do not advocate for any of them! Which is also why I never heard of UE 6. I advocate for the tools BEHIND these trimmed versions and for the end-user to use those tools! Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime. I have zero "like" for X-Lite. Zero trust mainly because one of the X-Lite variations PUNCHED ME IN THE FACE with an expired license for ADDED software that shouldn't be there in the first place. As if somehow the only REASON for the EXISTENCE of X-Lite was to SOLICIT for folks to PURCHASE a renewed license! And then it evolved into providing HACKED LICENSES instead, or so it appeared. And I'll shout that from every rooftop I can find.

I've tried several. All worthless and resulted in crashes. But it's been a couple years since I last tried any of them. And I have no need for them nowadays. 10 is way better than XP. Once tweaked, of course.

Same here! Win10 works great on 20yr old laptops with only 2 GB RAM. And I am not referring to those "x-lite" variations! DIY is the only way!

If I'm hunting for the right thing, I'm only finding it in Spanish

Well... You didn't ask about Win UE 6 (never heard of it). Or even SP3. You asked about SP2. I did a sh-tLo-d of testing when SP3 came out. While it was "minor", I found it to be superiour in every way to SP2. Some of us, whether we admit it or not, cling to our own ideologies whether technically true or not. Are you sure that SP3 broke your system? Because from what you just kind of revealed, Win UE 6 kind of broke your system, did it not? That aside... I'm now off to hunt down "Win UE 6" for the curiosity of it...

It's something on your setup. That version of FDM is working just fine for me in XP x86 SP2 (original SP2, *NO* updates installed, Windows Updates DISABLED).

Thanks. You beat me to the punch. Was in-process of installing SP2 to verify. I've used FDM on XP x64, but didn't have a frame of reference for XP x86 SP2.

"Aye, there's the rub." This redirect simply does not happen to folks using default user agents. So doesn't that make all of this "their fault"? I guess I was under the impression, misguided as it were, that this redirect was happening with "default Iron", meaning DEFAULT USER AGENT, for one user. And with "default Supermium", meaning DEFAULT USER AGENT, for another user. There's really only 3 or 4 people that are affected. And a dozen (?) that tried to get redirected but never were able to. At any rate, not even the folks that posted the question still read their own thread, so we're all kind of nothing but a hamster running inside a spinnig wheel. I kind of think the thread should have a "conclusion" posted (maybe even locked?). I've "given up", I'm aware that user agents can cause the redirect, but I really didn't think that's what we were trying to track down. At any rate, having followed the thread from the beginning, it would be nice to have a "real conclusion".

When testing transfer speeds, are these two drives being speed-tested on one machine, or both? ie, is thumb drive #1 only being tested on computer #A and thrumb drive #2 only being tested on computer #B? Or is thumb drive #1 being tested on computer #A and then the same thrumb drive #1 being tested on computer #B? And, perhaps more importantly, has thumb drive #1 been used for approximately the same number of read/writes as thumb drive #2? I can always tell when one of my thumb drives is nearing "EOL" because it takes LONGER to write the same amount of data that used to go fairly quickly. Thumb drives do SLOW DOWN as they get older. https://leafybark.com/the-slowdown-saga-do-flash-drives-get-slower-over-time/ https://darwinsdata.com/do-usb-drives-wear-out/

To the point where I now have three Discord accounts (all on "throwaway" email accounts) so that I can invite myself to my own Discord server, lol. Probably not the best "test". But I really really REALLY want to REPRODUCE this redirect! As a sense of "accomplishment".

I have spent over THIRTY HOURS trying to reproduce this redirect. I simply can not reproduce it. Either it is "fixed" and it hasn't been reported in this thread, or there is such an odd set of pre-requisites that it's only affecting 3 or 4 people out of hundreds of thousands. I have installed Discord. No real clue how to use it or what it's really for, but I have installed it because the afflicted keeps citing Discord Preview. I simply can not reproduce this redirect. No way, no how. Impossible. 30hrs in - and counting...

Do you have DISCORD installed on your computer?

Yeah, the Win-key-s/Irfanview is actually similar to my default. I don't generally paste "print screens" and my hotkey and program is different. My primary point is that if a first-time image-poster is trying to figure out HOW, it just seems easier to direct him/her to something that should already be on his/her computer and not making him/her think Irfanview is "required". That's all I was tryin' to say. But hey, written communication is FAR from my strong suit.

You do not need Irfanview. Just click the "print screen" button on your keyboard then paste (ctrl-V) with the cursor in the reply box (as in below [screen on right is maximized System Informer just to intentionally hide items on that screen before posting to the public). The "print screen" button will not appear to do anything, it's not until you PASTE what the "print screen" button COPIED. Or, just paste into something like LEGACY PAINT, edit, crop, add lines and arrows and boxes and highlights, you name it. Then copy from legacy paint and paste that into the reply box. The Win-Key-S won't work for "everybody" (that's a "Snipping Tool" shortcut that people like me UNINSTALL (because I have better third-party software for that function)). Everything needed is already on *any* Windows system. No need for Irfanview (unless you ALREADY use it, point is, you don't need to ADD anything to your Windows system if you don't want to). Edit - but be aware that you can only paste so many images here at MSFN before you RUN OUT OF ROOM allocated for you. You'll need to go to your profile and delete past images in order to paste new images once you hit your profile limit.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/227504/Dell-Dimension-4700-Series.html#manual Check the thumb drive transfer speed on one of the FRONT (two) ports and compare to the transfer speed on one of the REAR (six) ports. Manual (linked above) cites all eight as USB 2.0. But the same can be said for my Dell desktop BUT my wireless USB adaptor connects to my router at over TEN TIMES FASTER just based on which USB 2.0 port that I plug it into.

Okey dokey.

Bold = Emphasis <> Fighting Now I see why E. E. Cummings used a minimalistic style.

One of the below should work as a fix (have not tried yet, will tomorrow). https://learnersbucket.com/examples/interview/groupby-polyfill-in-javascript/ https://gist.github.com/gtrabanco/7c97bd41aa74af974fa935bfb5044b6e https://www.npmjs.com/package/groupby-polyfill?activeTab=code

<OT> Never know what discoveries will be revealed just by reading MSFN. The above link's run/reset ability was "broken" by a "Disable OpenSearch" userscript that I've been using for 7yrs (here) without issue. Updated to a version only 3yrs old (here) and all is right with the world again.

I seem to recall that the developer has publicly asked for assistance and nobody stepped up to the plate. Granted, at the time, that request was in reference to XP/Vista support. The userbase (my opinion) has grown INCREASINGLY impatient with the "release schedule". You can find Reddit posts asking if r3dfox is "abandoned" if it goes so much as ONE MONTH without a new release. ONE MONTH !!! There are also requests for NIGHTLY BUILDS !!! And every time a Firefox ESR "security bulletin" is posted, the board jumps to life BEGGING for an update. Begging, Begging, Begging! Personally, in my humble opion, this is where A.I. should become everybody's "best friend". The compile process takes roughly 1/2hr and while that may not sound like much, most everybody does have LIVES. Not everybody is a "robot / machine" dedicatingly programmed into a "ritual" of posting software updates each and every week. Let's be honest, not many of us are WILLING to dedicate the amount of TIME out of our LIVES that folks like @roytam1 does every week! A.I. could do all of this for us! And we'd have that "nightly" version of r3dfox. If a young programmer wants to "make a name" for him/herself, the INSTRUCTIONS on how to build r3dfox is publicly posted. No takers so far! We can all read into that what we will.

Well aware. But answer me this, WHERE does that COME FROM ??? It wasn't plucked out of the sky! It comes from somewhere! A third-party extension? A program installed on the OS but accessed via Supermium or Iron or <your browser here>? I *THINK* (no clue!) that it comes from an EXTENSION that DISCORD users have added to Supermium and other Discord users have added to Iron. Or simply "accessed" Discord "through" Supermium or Iron or <your browser here>. As far as "Discord user", think YouTube on Supermium as "YouTube user" or YouTube on Iron as "YouTube user". The redirect issue is not an issue for me. It's also not an issue for you. Because we are not "Discord users". And *only* those "Discord users" are getting the REDIRECT being discussed (technically, it's being IGNORED, you and I are the only one's discussing, lol). The problem is not Supermium. The problem is not Iron. The problem is not <your browser here>. The problem is the ORIGINAL SOURCE of WHERE that User Agent comes from. It comes from somewhere. I wish that a Discord user would stop by and clear the confusion. But I don't see that happening, they would have been here already.

https://etechshout.com/view-discord-server-without-joining/ https://pupuweb.com/how-to-preview-discord-servers-before-joining/ Seems to be something like the above. But it's not like any of the people that use Discord on Supermium or the people that use Discord on Iron are chiming in to clear up any confusion.

You don't seem to be following the ENTIRE discussion. I have no clue what "discord preview" is, but it not the browser "by itself". It's an extension or something added to the browser and only users that have ADDED "discord preview" to their browser (some added it to Iron, some added it to Supermium), only THEY are getting this redirect discussed here. The rest of us (you and me that have no clue what "discord preview" IS), we are not affected by this redirect discussed here.

Um... The rest of us don't know what "discord preview" is and nobody here would even admit this issue ONLY affecting Discord users. Seems like that should have been a shared detail so that the rest of us weren't "wasting time".

Then enter a RANDOM username. I have been able to "trigger" the Cloudflare with a SUCCESSFUL login in one browser, but then trying to log in with a different browser while that first browser is still logged in. I would have to "downgrade" my browser version to get to the INFINITE LOOP on Cloudflare. But I kinda can't do that, it has a tendency to corrupt the profile if you "downgrade". The whole point that brought up all this is that a Cloudflare COMPLEXITY (this post) is not "universal". It is a FACT that my sewer bill pay Cloudflare will enter into an INFINITE LOOP but other web sites Cloudflare WORK. It's kind of my "theory" that the Cloudflare "updates" propagate from a central location and the server for my sewer bill pay is closest to the center of that outward propagation. But just a "theory". All I know is that it has happened TWICE and BOTH times required upgrading my OLD browser version to a LESS OLD, I didn't have to get the most recent, but did have to upgrade. And as far as THIS thread is concerned, it was PHYSICAL PROOF that one web sites Cloudflare IS NOT IDENTICAL to another web sites Cloudflare. But I kind of have to assume that it kind of boils down to one server simply getting a "Cloudflare update" a week or two before the other web sites. My conclusion to the matter: CLOUDFLARE SUCKS !!!