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Apple's success has relatively little to do with the Macbook. Apple owes its success to the iPhone. So much so (mobile over desktop) that Microsoft's Win8.1 and Win11 are both basically Microsoft's attempt to catch up with Apple. The whole ideology behind the "start bar" being centered is, to me at least, nothing but a PHONE'S way of doing things migrating to the DESKTOP. Centering the "start bar" just makes a desktop "look like" a phone. But maybe that's just me, lol.

Ok, last "OT" (stop beating the dead horse already, I am aware it is "OT") [lol, nobody actually started beating the dead horse, I can PREDICT the future and I can SEE it on the horizon, lol]. Turns out the issue IS indeed with ungoogled-chromium and has been fixed in v133 with an opt-in resolution planned for v134+. It's actually a WEBGL issue in ungoogled coupled with H264ify. Despite being "OT", I leave this all here for readers to acquire some knowledge.

To bring it back "OT" -- how do I improve AUDIO QUALITY and HARDWARE ACCELERATION in Moz-based browsers? Video quality in Moz-based seems to be "better" than Chrome-based. But only on my primary monitor. Move the video to a secondary monitor and fast-paced motion scenes lag BIG TIME. Audio quality also suffers BIG TIME. Sounds "muffled" compared to Chrome-based. Moz-based sounds like a 64 kilobits per second bitrate where Chrome-based sounds like a 256 kilobits per second bitrate.

I have not tested if this is only an Ungoogled Chromium issue. I suppose that is very possible. I don't really have any "need" for non-ungoogled here at home and I am "forced" to use "real" Chrome at work (YouTube works at work). edit - per https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium/issues/3204 , this does seem to be an Ungoogled issue (which only really confirms YouTube/Google "telemetry" and only browsers that "allow" such telemetry can use YouTube).

It is not a configuration issue. I have already ruled that out. It's also not an adblocker issue, running "na ked" and using a "vir gin" default Chrome (v131) profile also has buffer issues. YouTube works FINE, with or without Vorapis, in anything NON-CHROME (ie, New Moon, Mypal, Serpent, Pale Moon, IceCat). It is only in Chrome. YEAH, I know!, it is technically "OT" for this thread! But this thread is where the Vorapis was discussed, I was too lazy to start a new thread.

Not sure why we are so harsh on Windows / Microsoft. How is Facebook/Meta, Google, Amazon, Disney, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok, AT&T any different? -- that would be my telemetry versus privacy rights list. My profits versus people list would be -- Facebook, the NFL, Electronic Arts, University of Phoenix, Uber, Comcast, Oracle, Western Digital, Seagate, Apple, McDonald's, Coca-Cola.

Disregard! That was short-lived! Videos are consistently stopping about three and half minutes in then the infamous swirling circle indicating buffering rears its ugly head! IceCat remains fine - without VORAPIS.

I've (finally) become a VORAPIS user. YouTube has always ran fine for me (with uBO adblocking + Stylus userstyles + Tampermonkey userscripts). But for the last week or so, YouTube has become a NIGHTMARE. Buffering issues galore. But only in Chrome and only at home, work with same browser profile has remained fine). IceCat here at home remains fine. VORAPIS to the rescue! I'm not liking how VORAPIS has to refresh the ENTIRE page when it goes from one playlist item to the next. But a small price to pay to avoid the d#mn buffering issues.

I should also add that when I first trial-ran "arkenfox" several months ago, I did not do so in a brand-new fresh-and-clean profile. I have since revisited and without arkenfox, IceCat (v115 ESR) Speedometer 3.0 scores range from 5.06 to 5.10. With arkenfox, my scores range from 6.00 to 6.17. I'll cite that as a significant improvement. And while IceCat does not yet have a v128 ESR branch (I patiently await), the v115 scores are HALF that which I get in an Ungoogled Chromium Fork (Huiaei v131) which range from 12.3 to 12.6. Before finding the Huiaei fork, my Official Ungoogled v122 only scored 9.3 to 9.7.

I still kind of find your benchmark scores "confusing". ie, they don't seem, to me at least, to "agree" with majority of publicly shared scores. By that, I do specifically refer to your ability, in the past at least, to score higher scores in Firefox than Edge. Your most recent post does report what I would expect - a higher score in Edge than in Firefox. I cite that as a newfound Big Fan of IceCat - but I cannot for the life of me to get it to score anywhere near as good as Chrome/Chromium forks - NOWHERE NEAR. I found this site interesting as far as benchmark historical trends - Source Link - https://arewefastyet.com/win11/benchmarks/raptor-desktop-speedometer3?numDays=365 You can even see some "bump-ups" in the historical trend. Early Nov 2024 bump-up for Firefox would be right around v132 and v133. So tests from v131 through v134 would prove interesting. There's another Firefox slight bump-up in mid Feb 2025. Would be right around v135. So perhaps directly comparing v130 to v135 would also prove quite interesting. Chrome's July 2024 bump would be approx v127. Chrome's Nov 2024 bump would be approx v130. Chrome's Feb 2025 bump would be approx v132/v133.

My bad. I saw the file name "VxKex" and that threw me.

Don't blame me, blame the author for claiming that it does.

AGREED! Trip cited that only ONE cert is expiring. That is easy to track down, easy to export from a newer Firefox, easy to import to preferred-older. Moving on... "Toodles"...

D.Draker - there is no need to be so... no adjective is going to be typed! I offered a solution that I have used in the past, one that works, one that may POSSIBLY be considered "over-complicated", Trip can use the info or disregard it, no skin off my back either way.

I did not know that there is a "cert folder". I provided a solution that I know works as I've had to implement it in the past (on Pale Moon, not on Firefox, but they are identical for the sake of this discussion). Over-complicated? Perhaps, especially if it is indeed as easy as copying a "cert folder". Speaking solely for myself, I would *NOT* want to copy an entire cert database from "new to old", I would only copy (export from new, import to old) ONE CERT at a time, not "all at once". My thinking though is from the XP Days. There are certs that work in Win7+ that do not work in XP. So why import them into XP?

Track down "which" certificate is expiring. Export that certificate from a newer version of Firefox running in a VM. Import the certificate to the version of Firefox that you want to keep.

Here ( link ) is a v127 that is supposed to work on Vista with the extended kernel. I do not run Vista or extended kernels but I have ran this browser in Win10. In fact, it actually dethroned my Official Ungoogled v122 on Win10 because it scores higher on "not everybody trusts" benchmark scores. On my system, Official Ungoogled v122 scores 156 thru 162, this v127 scores 204 thru 211 [Speedometer 2.1]. I've since found an even better ungoogled fork v131 ( link ) [scores 208 thru 214, basically within margin of error but is a "newer" engine] but that one is "OT" for this thread, just citing for reference.

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NO! Not publicly! YES! THREE times in the last five years alone! Satisfied?

I have to also disagree with raising minimum wage. Here in the States, we have a FEDERAL minimum wage - THAT NEEDS ABOLISHED. What would help is that every STATE had their OWN minimum wage !!! California and New York have a very HIGH cost-of-living. Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Iowa, N/S Dakota, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Nebraska all have a very LOW cost-of-living. Having the same EXACT minimum wage in California that you have in Arkansas is just plain STUPID. I also submit that MINIMUM WAGE is a TEENAGE PROBLEM !!! Unsympathetic? No, not really! If you are in your 30s, 40s, or 50s and earning MINIMUM WAGE, then that is YOUR FAULT for working the same jobs that TEENAGERS WORK !!!

I personally disagree with universal healthcare. BUT there *IS* a case to be made that it would "improve" quality of life in America. I am "biased" AGAINST universal healthcare and have seen just as many documentaries AGAINST it as I have seen for it. I *FIRMLY* support healthcare that is *RISK-BASED* !!! If you smoke, you pay a HIGHER PREMIUM - *PERIOD*. If you drink alcohol, you pay a HIGHER PREMIUM - *PERIOD*. If you are diabetic, you pay a HIGHER PREMIUM - *PERIOD*. Universal healthcare wants to treat everybody as "equals" - F Dat! If you are HIGH-RISK, then you either pay a HIGHER PREMIUM or you DIE YOUNG, the choice is yours. Unsympathetic? MAYBE. But we have PHILANTHROPISTS that can pay the way for those that cannot "afford" their HIGHER PREMIUM. We have PHILANTHROPISTS that can pay for your infant/child/toddler with life-threatening conditions. If you are a homeless drug addict and DO NOT WANT to clean yourself up for a free place to sleep at night (there are millions of them, but you must WANT to sober up to qualify as a resident!), then TO H WITH YA, the world is better off "without you". Unsympathetic? MAYBE. But I know for d#mn sure that I AM NOT A BURDEN ON THEM and neither should THEY BE A BURDEN ON ME !!! CARRY YOUR OWN WEIGHT !!! Learn from mistakes, be sympathetic and assume that a first or second strike is just that, a mistake, but there comes a point where ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, you do not throw good money after bad. Unsympatheic? NO! NOT IN THE LEAST! Not when the "money" paying for the DEADBEATS is taxes redirected from MORE NOBLE OF CAUSES. H#ll, for that matter, maybe, JUST MAYBE, the "money" spent on the DEADBEATS here in America is better served on "this thread topic" (climate change). You decide!

AGREE, AGREE, AGREE !!! But it's also RELATIVE. The "covid generation" is HURTING BIG TIME right now (those that were forced into "home-learning" and unable to attend their final year of high school). This has actually *HELPED ME* "much more" then the amount that it has *hurt them*. IT'S ALL RELATIVE. Trust me! Companies are much bigger into "employee retention" instead of hiring anyone from the "covid generation". Good for me. Bad for them. It's all relative. Retention is the new Recruitment. Companies no longer want to hire just-graduated college kids. It's more cost-effective to pay your talent and pay them well so that they STAY. I feel bad for the "generations behind me". Will things get better? I hope so! For THEIR sake. Me doing better should not come at the cost of them doing worse. But then there are days where I have *ZERO* sympathy towards the "generations behind me". ADDICTED TO THEIR PHONE so much that you can *NOT* get an "honest day's work" out of them !!! Work Hard! And you do great in America. Play on your phone all day, then NOT MY PROBLEM if that "addiction" is HOLDING YOU BACK. But YES! AGREED! Quality of life in American *IS* getting worse. Especially for those addicted to phones, games, alcohol, Mary Jane, opioids, et cetera. The more "they" keep doing this to themselves (and yes, many CHOOSE the addict-lifestyle and do NOT want "out of it", not sure if that's a minority or a majority), the better MY life becomes. IT'S ALL RELATIVE.

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