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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
siria replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
MSFN forum probs can have the weirdest reasons, mainly settings related. Awhile back someone reported (in the dslreports forum) he could not register here. Finally turned out the culprit was his HOST file - because he had blocked fonts.googleapis.com! (May have been needed by reCaptcha, not sure anymore) And just recently (NM page 198) someone discovered this pref is needed for posting here: dom.storage.enabled = true Great to hear! Same boat here. Does the Error Console work for you, in K-Meleon-Goanna74? For me only at startup, then dead. Meanwhile discovered: it's also broken in the old K-Meleon74-gecko on XP! When any bugs are discovered by users of old systems, everyone immediately assumes it must be system related, but very often not true. I remember the early KM7x versions had lots of GUI bugs independant of the system, and were fixed progressively until KM76. The downside was, the more KM bugs were fixed between KM74-76, the more new engine probs were introduced instead, by Mozilla constantly reducing user freedom in every new Gecko version And just yesterday discovered: the ErrorConsole addon and other KM-stuff is actually contained 2x in KMG74? Inside omni.ja and also unpacked in browser folder. Tried to figure out more, which one may be younger etc., but so far no clue yet. Too many files, too little comparing tools, quite confusing. And some file dates differ by exactly 6 hours, which is certainly just a timezone difference. -
Machine translations: Last year I did a bit testing, compared results for Google, Deepl, Yandex etc., but for me Google was the clear winner again. The completely unexpected, scary part was that some services translated completely different stuff as in the original, sometimes even inventing complete additional sentences out of nothing! There was also somewhere a quite long, hilarious reddit thread with such nonsense examples.
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
siria replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
That was my attempt awhile back to figure out if engine is gecko or goanna, for a K-Meleon macro: _troubleshootprefs_getKMver{ if ((getpref(STRING,"platform.name")=="Goanna") or (index(getpref(STRING,"services.sync.syncKeyHelpURL"),"palemoon")>0) or (index(getpref(STRING,"services.sync.addons.trustedSourceHostnames"),"palemoon")>0)) $_eng="Goanna"; else $_eng="Gecko"; -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
siria replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Another important point is how fingerprinted your browser is. They say reCaptchas also let you pass without any probs in other browsers if you're logged into a Google account... Good point! Suddenly it makes perfect sense that many images are so confusing, with no clear answer! Am afraid they abuse all their services to train their almighty AI. After recent reports about AI now being able to even do fake phone calls, sounding like real people and asking+replying intelligently, and getting away as real humans, there seem no limits anymore. And for example knowing how the internet is infested with paid trolls and spammers, pretending to be regular users and trying to distort public opinions, one can bet they now continually replace those fake accounts with AI robots too :-/ -
Just a general side note, regarding those 2 "application data" directories: C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\...profile... C:\Documents and Settings\compname\Local Settings\Application Data\...cachedstuff... Those had confused me mighty for years, before realizing there's actually two appdata folders. And then was initially confused yet more: huh - two?? But it's a good idea to kepp the second folder in mind too. It's a strong suspect if sometimes the browser acts weird, as if it had a ghost cache somewhere... and that's exactly in LocalSettings where it's hiding. For example if an addon gets disabled but stubbornly still has some lingering effects or similar. XUL stuff is cached in the startup-Cache folder, as seen in the screenshot, and it can be deleted to clean up and refresh itself. Basically the profile folder is for user stuff, and the LocalSettings folder is for machine-related cached stuff, just for faster startups.
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K-Meleon and userscripts: yeah an endless drama :-( I don't understand that subject either, as far as xpi-addons are involved, KM-forum posts about it are all more or less confusing, to me too. Does it work, or not?? How much workarounds are needed to get it working, how much functions must be replaced by workaround-macros - or is possibly the whole thing then done ONLY by macros?? And even sometimes doubtful: did the person posting addon instructions really try it himself? One of the tips given repeatedly was: the gm_scripts folder must be created manually in the profile, at best just copied over from another Mozilla browsers. But that's probably not the only trick needed?? Wish since years that one of the advanced KM-users would finally figure things out once and for all. Am not the right person for this myself, being stuck on old OS and old KM-version, and shying away from yet another time consuming task on top of the ever growing pile (don't even manage to finally finish some really important favorite macros, and having zero personal experience with userscript addons in Firefox either, it just makes no sense). Although am afraid, some day might be forced to try anyway if no one else does (on a rarely used xp offline machine), to finally figure out a bit more. What I am only familiar with is the very basic function that KM macros can use: check URL onload, then "readfile" of the local script defined in the macro, and inject the content into the webpage. Over the years I've spend hundreds of hours struggling with that stuff, especially GUIs, with only partial success, and much time and nerves wasted in vain. One of the probs for the macro method is, with local scripts it's not possible to attach them as link, they can only be injected as inline script. Another (huge) prob is the size limit, in current KM "readfile" is allowed only max 64kB, in older ones even just tiny 32kB. That means all those huge youtube-scripts out there are hopeless for this method! (but I absolutely needed it, so the only lousy workaround was to manually chop such a file into 2 parts by notepad, then when called by menu, have the macro read both and stitch together. But less desperate users won't consider such hassles, and also hope on newer KM-versions there are better methods possible - just which??) By the way am using a great old userscript to create a list of direct download links, which is only about 37kB! For my old KM that's a prob, but in current KM it's small enough, so perhaps worth trying. This script only creates normal links to the various video qualities, nothing else. John made a macro for it: http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,142050 My personal version is slightly modified to just plaster all links over the black rectangle, and only on demand. Am very happy with this, and MPClassic. Thought of this a bit late, since everyone here is only talking about the viewtube script (115kB), and everyone seems to want to watch the videos inside the page. That's a bigger housenumber.
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My Browser Builds (Part 2)
siria replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
That "ad-blocker" is actually there too, in the list just some lines above. Frankly that had me quite confused too! And archived here: http://web.archive.org/web/201910/https://legacycollector.org/firefox-addons/364867/index.html But thanks for letting us know that horrible news :-( It's an absolute desaster for users of older browsers or forks. Everything that good people created gets destroyed fully intentionally since many years, everywhere, without any need :-( How long until those addons will vanish from waybackmachine too? Or perhaps the waybackmachine will get destroyed? How long until justoff with his CAA-archive will have to give up too? Whoever created legacycollector as a service for humanity was FORCED to stop!! But that's how things are going in this downhill era. So currently only CAA addon is left, but I can't even read that on this computer, it only runs on more modern browsers :-( And the Seamonkey addons are nice, but only a tiny few of all Firefox addons. Have also read that Seamonkey is having growing problems too with Mozilla cutting all engine bridges that forks could use in the past. And hardly any developers remaining either, so assume it's only a matter of time until Mozilla will kill their addons too. -
KernelEx is so incredibly tiny but really works miracles, it makes Win98 about 10x better! Without it it's really unusable today. At least the old "basic" KernelEx is a must have, and ran quite stable and troublefree for me. The newer KernelEx 2016 versions even allow to run goanna based forks of Firefox24, just sadly too buggy yet for my daily use, and giving me probs now to run some old, native Win98 apps (my impression is that modern KernelEx is by default always enabled and cannot be fully disabled anymore). But if you insist to use vanilla Win98, get the Retrozilla 2.2. browser, somewhere in the forum here. There are 2 versions, from the original author and from roytam, a bit confusing. Still ancient engine from Firefox2 generation or Seamonkey ( I keep confusing those), but it can handle most modern CERTS with TLS1.2. Those highly encrypted CERTS enforced with all might by Google&Co since 1-2 years are what really destroys the web successfully and completely for old browsers now, blocking all page content. While the outdated JS+CSS engines are very harmless in comparison, if you don't need the lastest social bells and whistles. But simply by including those CERTS Retrozilla allows access again to read e.g. twitter, developer.mozilla.org, github (partly), sourceforge (partly) and other crucial sites.
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RLoew (1952 - 2019) has passed away.
siria replied to looking4awayout's topic in Pinned Topics regarding 9x/ME
Am glad the binaries will still be available, and even as freeware, thank you. That's great and for normal users the only thing that matters. Just for clarifying, do you have a license in mind? Additionally to "freeware" all source codes published and declared as "OpenSource"? Or source code even as "public domain"? -
My Browser Builds (Part 2)
siria replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
This would be the perfect opportunity now. Have no own opinion about sub-boards, but what's absolutely important is to split up this giant whirlpool into separate topics. @roytam1 Please consider! At the very least please separate topics for native Win2000 browsers (like PM26, KMG74), and native Win98 browsers (like Fx36, retrozilla). And perhaps another for the more exotic builds, but not my area. (PS: and rename here to "My browser builds" 8) After a split, perhaps "My browser builds for XP"?) -
RLoew (1952 - 2019) has passed away.
siria replied to looking4awayout's topic in Pinned Topics regarding 9x/ME
Just my personal opinion, but if anything would happen to myself and then all my private stuff and belongings, incl. all unfinished stuff with scribbled notes inside that regard only myself, would be thrown out there publicly on the street, fully open to every passing id*** to do and abuse whatever he wants with it, I'd absolutely hate that. Would find it much better if instead just a few selected, trustworthy people would get the unsorted stuff to manage it responsibly. -
Guys, please respect a bit the privacy of other people :-( Unauthorized photos in general are bad enough, but close-up mugs on the public web are a complete No-Go. And doesn't even make any sense at all when the subject are just "screen" shots. Cutting out parts of a photo with any simple, basic app, like IrfanView or even MS-paint, takes just a minute, and NO skills!
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That reminds me: the typo in 45 line55 probably makes that all following lines are ignored. Had the same prob in my own personal files, and noticed it only accidentally, probably much later. Then invented a little trick to make it visible on about:config if the file was damaged: pref on top of file: pref("aaa.CHECK.mysettings.COMPLETE", "*** BROKEN! *** CHECK! ***"); pref at end pref("aaa.CHECK.mysettings.COMPLETE", "OK"); :-)
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Size from over 40kB to 2-3kB, great! Finally. Am glad that this is now not a personal profile anymore, complete with all custom addons and custom install paths, but now really just focused on the prefs for the purpose :-) Now it's becoming more interesting, perhaps for myself too, after recently having run into black screens on another machine. When I get around, may try it... Just a bit typo remarks after taking a short look inside (not pref-related) patch45: at start of line 55 patch38+45: the first 2 comment lines start with #, that should be // for javascript (like in enforcer) patch38: the comment on top prohibiting to edit is a remnant from prefs.js, it doesn't belong into UOC. In general it would be helpful to also add a few comments to some of the single pref lines. E.g. for this: user_pref("browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand", false); Wondered if that may mean it's on, or off... not sure. But was just general interest, not for myself. Offtopic: sessionstore in general seems to be much more dangerous as one would assume. Even for hardware: have read the Firefox method is infamous for writing completely INSANE amounts of data to disk: even Gigabytes without any browsing, just idle, as some experts have tested. No wonder that lots of supposedly supermegarobust SSD-disks are self-destroying after 1-2 years, although manufacturers and fanatics still insist SSDs would live forever, at least 20years - ha ha... (And they also claim it were 1) harmless and 2) necessary for FF sessionmanager to write such amounts to store sessions, even without browsing... Insane or what?!) IIRC one of the victims of 1-year old dead SSDs was also the K-Meleon project. It crashed on our main dev, for unknown reasons, and when he tried to restore a backup, the backup disk got destroyed/formatted by modern Windows OS... Lost quite some work, and seems interest too, since afterwards the KM-development was completely dead again (until roytam came.) Have no clue if he used FF and sessionrestore or not, it's just yet another supposedly undestructable SSD living only a year.
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My Browser Builds (Part 1)
siria replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
A european domain is the last choice I'd personally consider today! Not sure if a chinese, turkish or russian one would be better or worse nowadays. But EU laws have become extremely suppressive against honest people, getting worse every year. While at the same time greatly favoring evil people. Far beyond what anyone could have imagined a few decodes ago, and most still can't imagine today. Far beyond any common sense, and harming society badly. One of the latest highlights: A new EU law declares it a CRIME if someone quotes even a headline of e.g. some newspaper article, or even just 1 sentence! ONE! This is completely incredible, but the mass media (all politically correct today) didn't cry out. Instead they hardly even mentioned such tiny details and made it sound as if all protesters, who learned the truth in the internet, were allying with real criminal pirates! And so that law passed too, as lots of other society harming laws before. At the moment it's just not active yet, but the single countries are now forced to put this into national laws soon. The prob is, those are not just some crazy theoretical laws, that no one will really enforce. Not sure about elsewhere, but at least in Germany it's an extremely successful business model of some shark companies to try and find as many as such peanut-lawbreakers as they can (of insane laws that no one with some common sense can imagine), then demand the victims to pay them a fortune as 'punishment', into their own private pockets, or otherwise drag the poor victims to court. Which always rules in favor of the evil ones, because law is law, and obviously it's also some law today (not sure if only in DE, or all EU) that those sharks are allowed to put the money into their own pocket. HUGE sums, completely out of relation to the supposed 'crime'. Regardless if such perpetrations, which no person in their right mind would imagine, are harming anyone or not. Or quite often are even positive for society. The first event may be free, victims get only an official 'warning', but once someone or a little shop landed in this spider net, he's lost anyway. The sharks will observe him very closely trying to catch a second event, some most harmless and unexpected bureaucracy-breaking event, like e.g. forgetting to refresh a fading marker line around a car selling spot, or some harmless, accidental little mishap in times of great stress, or just cluelessness about the newest traps in that jungle. And it even has happened that some sharks faked such events themselves, which is hard to prove of course. Now the victims are really lost, must pay some extremely exaggerated amount of thousands or tens of thousands euros. And the newspapers will either not mention it at all, or omit details and just imply the victims were breaking laws and shouldn't complain. Have read those evil companies already ruined countless little shop owners in DE already this way, using such legal (but to normal people feeling rather mafia-like) methods. Having committed no crime at all! With politicians still strongly supporting this business model, just recently the highest court ruled again in favor of such sharks. So that future EU law about quoting just a HEADLINE or ONE SENTENCE becoming a CRIME, a heavily punished one, ruining poor people, will be the ultimate tool for evil guys to destroy just about anyone they want. That much for extremly destructive and antihuman EU laws. Just one more. Although Switzerland is not officially part of the EU, they are not completely free to do what they want. Being a small country surrounded and depending on powerful neighbors, those can and do abuse their economic power to make them respect some EU laws too. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
siria replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
It's dawning on me only now what a great business model this actually is: Domain marketeers give out cheap or free domains, but obviously still own them all themselves too, and can still do whatever they want with them! So they can just wait a bit until one of those domains becomes popular and successful, then just take it away from the supposed 'owners' again, pretending some invented or peanut reason, with no chance to appeal - and now start earning money with it themselves! Either put up nasty stuff themselves, or redirect, or why not SELL the successful domain now for bigger money to any really FRAUD or malware spreaders! While the true domain owners are left wondering if they may have done anything wrong, and what exactly.... What an irony. The implications are absolutely horrible: Evil new owners of those domains can put up whatever they want on those former trustworthy domains, while clueless visitors still keep reading in old articles and posts and archived website versions that this site is a GOOD and trustworthy one! So they visit and trust and unknowingly download now dangerous stuff :-( With greedy new owners usually not putting up a big message telling visitors that the ownership has changed. And visitors being just lucky if it's as obvious as in this case - but who knows for how long yet. I suppose future new owners can just as well restore former original linked download paths, just with exchanged file contents - GRRR After all such fake or pretended identities (legal or not) happen all the time now with all sorts of former great products and names :-( See it all the time in RealLife that names and logos of once great, now long since dead traditional companies, are now (ab)used even legally to sell products from completely different countries and producers and qualities. And of course in the software world too. Just remembered for example how the successful Stylish addon was finally sold to someone else, who probably seemed trustworthy to the former creator, but shortly after the seller just sold it again to a spying company etc. Actually a popular strategy of those companies, just take over former good products and secretly turn the new versions into spying tools. And recently an article about LOTS of new Firefox addons with stolen identities: https://www.ghacks.net/2019/05/29/another-malware-wave-hit-the-mozilla-firefox-extensions-store/ I'm opting for giving up as soon as possible the 3rd domain of this sort! Before it becomes too popular too, and "try" to get a less endangered one. Sigh, until some day all currently trustworthy resellers may be sold too, as usual today :-( -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
siria replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Oh no, not again. Sigh :( Could it be bandwith-related? But guess doesn't matter if it's only the domain name, not the hosting server... no clue of such stuff. But I still keep suspecting that the original browser names in your zip packages are problematic! Whether that contributes to those domain probs or not, but sooner or later you'll have to rename them anyway, so the sooner the better. Am glad that KM-Goanna already has a unique name, although Dorian welcomed your builds very much. But who except a few insiders know this? -
Just to be sure, but you do have allowed all plugins by setting "plugin.load_flash_only = false"? And check the prefs "plugin.scan.plid. ...." which plugins the browser shall find, either all or only specific ones. And in another Mozilla-fork it was recommended to delete in the profile "pluginregs.dat", to refresh it. And if existing, also delete the StartupCache folder in the profile...
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No idea if this helps, it's just a pref for "dpi-scaling" Mozilla browsers, not the whole system.And am not sure if there's a difference between normal pagezoom and this dpi-faking. Anyway, perhaps worth a look as long as there's no easy solution for the whole system yet: https://www.ghacks.net/2013/06/24/firefox-22-0-find-out-what-is-new/ Pref: layout.css.devPixelsPerPx (String) 1.0 = use real resolution (everything looks sharp) -1 = automatic scaling (drove lots of people crazy when it became default and increased all image sizes, made them all fuzzy) Value can be smaller or greater as 1, in 0.05 steps, e.g. 0.8 or 1.25 or 1.5 etc. Since you want a HIGHER resolution, it means you want all elements SMALLER, that probably looks much less "fuzzy" as when increasing the size.
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Instagram videos not working in Firefox 52 ESR?
siria replied to Dave-H's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Luckily even on oldest systems instagram videos are still watchable outside the browser, by opening directly the URL provided in meta tag "og:video". It seems the recent change is that inside the scripts is now a different URL as this meta URL. Until recently I used a complicated macro to show this second URL as a link to click (in K-Meleon 1.6), but now this URL produces an error "Bad URL timestamp". Suppose in my case that's javascript related (can't use anyway, too outdated). Your younger engines may not have that js-prob, just wanted to mention that there exist 2 URLs and the first one still works. It can easily be extracted by a little script, just not sure how to add it to the page then. -
Everyone since ages is bashing websites if they block users based on the useragent string, instead of checking features. I disagree more and more. The truth is: in today's web with the growing hostily and downright war against users of older systems and browsers, by big corporations and even Mozilla now, this is the best thing that can happen to us! We can be mightly GLAD that so far most websites try to kick us out "only" based on UA string. Considering that's no prob at all, just fake it and we get full access to as many parts of the website as really possible, even on the most ancient systems. If instead they'd kick us out based on browser features, users of older systems and browsers would get no access at all, without any fix possible. I just don't buy it anymore that all websites were inherently benign, just too stupid or lazy to check features. That's a fairy tale. Perhaps was true twenty years ago, for more or less sites, and probably still for some minor hobby sites. But today the big corporations and even formerly user friendly companies like Mozilla, have started acting so hostile and destructive towards us, fighting us with all they can, to me it's very clear they really want to just get rid of us. Then again, doesn't matter much anymore, they've won anyway. The Google bosses found the ultimate 100% successful weapon to kick out all users of old systems and browsers, once and for all: just command to encrypt the whole web, as if all pages were banking transactions. End of story. Poof - all empty. Old browsers would still be able to read almost everything, without getting blocked artificially, but that's war. For the moment a few of us are still saved by some special browser builds, but it's only a delay. So while still able to get in where we can, I'm just glad if the only joke-barriere is UA checking.
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My Browser Builds (Part 1)
siria replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Solution how to fix broken about:support and about:serviceworkers (NewMoon27 and KMG76 share the same engine) http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?20,144981,150059#msg-150059 -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
siria replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Broken download reported from 3rd user, from Romania (East Europe), in KM-Forum. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
siria replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
(PM28, WinXP) Very interesting. Were the culprits some specific websites, or just in the sense of "too many tabs open"? Makes me wonder why this happens. Anyone have a guess?