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Whatever, but RT-K-Meleon is already KM-Goanna since a few years, this name can be kept.

Hi, and yes, fortunately. Am surprised that you start looking for alternatives only now ;-) This forum has long discussions about better browsers for Win98. For example Firefox2 or 3.6 or 9 or (old) Seamonkey with modern https-update, most by roytam1. Which browser are you using now? Which browsers do you like? You don't have SSE2. Do you have simple SSE? Do you have KernelEx installed? Which version? Your english is a bit difficult to understand, if you want Kex or not, or if you want it but perhaps just could not download it?

TIP for Win98 users, arriving too late for updating anything now: Killer circle: 1) Still have an original Windows98 and would like to update it with KernelEx now, but cannot access KernelEx downloads at SourceForge anymore? Since SF downloads are cipher-blocked for old browsers since awhile. 2) Or wanting to run roytam1's great TLS1.2 forks, and downloads work fine, BUT then you can NOT UNZIP them, due to old 7-zip version? 3) Then trying to update 7-zip, since your old 7z v4.x cannot unzip roytam1-browsers, but again running into SourceForge cipher-block, no download possible? Temporary SOLUTION for SourceForge downloads :-) The official mirror links still work! The only prob is how to figure out their direct path. Here are examples: Howto download 7-ZIP 9.20 (last version for untweaked Win98) (cipher-blocked) https://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/files/7-Zip/9.20/7z920.exe/download Official MIRRORS, example DE netcologne or Canada iWeb: OK: http or https://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/sevenzip/7-Zip/9.20/7z920.exe OK: http https://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/sevenzip/7-Zip/9.20/7z920.exe Howto download KERNELEX 4.5.2: (stable classic version, 2011-11-14) (cipher-blocked) https://sourceforge.net/projects/kernelex/files/KernelEx/4.5.2/KernelEx-4.5.2.exe/download OK: http or https://netix.dl.sourceforge.net/project/kernelex/KernelEx/4.5.2/KernelEx-4.5.2.exe README: https://sourceforge.net/projects/kernelex/files/KernelEx/4.5.2/README.txt/download OK: http or https://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/kernelex/KernelEx/4.5.2/README.txt

Wunderbar98 said: > When i get a chance will review old SeaMonkey extensions again and > see if there's anything there that may help. Since you can run modern browsers too, would highly recommand for everyone who's able to use it, the addon "Classic Add-ons Archive" by JustOff, on github, for research. It gives access again to a mirror of old AMO, before all powerful xul-addons were deleted by Mozilla. Really, do yourself a favor and give it a try ;-) Yes the addon is huge, but can easily be toggled On/Off during session, works instantly. It's just a tool for reading its sqlite database, showing the content as html pages, with links for downloads. Really wish anyone could make it run in FF24/KMG74 too, sigh. Last version for win98 with modern KernelEx, just very buggy yet. After tweaking version numbers in install.rdf the addon "caa:about" shows up, but only the header part, no clue how to access the stuff below?? :-( For Seamonkey even the original AMO still works too, only the domain has changed: https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/ The only prob is not all addons were always listed on AMO, incl. some of the best. And yeah, especially addons for such extremely old versions from FF2 era seem hard to find, mostly outside too.

About Firefox / Seamonkey / Mozilla browsers, content blocker: Wunderbar98 said: > My primary Windows 98 browser is RetroZilla. Unfortunately it does not appear to have similar > about:config entries. Have been playing with about:config and various preferences, not much improvement. No, it doesn't show them, except "permissions.default.image", but the sibling prefs DO WORK too! And the good news is, certainly in your SM too, since I meanwhile remembered that KM is actually based on the SM engine, not really on Firefox engine. FF is just always mentioned for comparison since everyone knows it and SM much less, so I keep forgetting it The secret trick is, those prefs are just HIDDEN by Mozilla to prevent discovery by users!! Nonetheless they do work anyway. Just for showing up in aboutconfig, those prefs must first be created manually: right-click / new / name / type is INT / default 1 And you can search all over the web, thanks to Mozilla successfully hiding them, hardly anyone is aware of those absolutely crucial prefs, it's very hard to realize they exist and work. They also successfully kept myself from finding and learning about them for far too many, many years, all the time wishing strongly such possibilities would exist. Nearly fell off the chair when some day realizing: such prefs exist, and they worked all along! And even as far back as at least K-Meleon 1.5 (=FF2/gecko1.8.1/SMxx), probably even older. And those prefs also keep (kept?) working far into the future in modern engines. And are still HIDDEN from discovery, and very successfully so! One of my pet peeves, as you may have noticed by now, LOL! Not quite sure up to which modern engines they still work, just seeing how much Mozilla started hating user's toggling possibilities since some years, wouldn't be surprised if meanwhile they killed those prefs completely. But no idea. Can only confirm that at least up to FF38 (KM76 incl Goanna) they definitely still work too, and with a lot more types added over the years. Came across that endless list some day in some source repo (could dig it up somewhere in old notes, at any rate a good search key is for content blocking) Once discovered, those prefs can be handled as all others too. And to get them to show up in about:config with their default value, one can simply add a new list *.js file in the /defaults/pref/ folder, syntax like e.g. the channel-prefs.js. Or take Mathwiz useragents list as syntax example. I did request roytam1 to include those absolutely crucial blocking prefs visibly out-of-box in KM, by adding this little file, but as almost always, my probs are not his own personal probs, so declined. Of course, the first thing I did after learning such fantastic possibilities do exist, was to start writing KM-macros for easier pref-toggling. And for extending my ever growing button collection :-) Macros priv3buttons and permdefs (stupid names, sigh) Regarding ADDONS for other browsers (FF), there exist a few for toggling those types, like QuickJava, Content Block (by mdsy), PrefBar (tuxfamily.org), (more?) Just not quite sure what those do internally exactly, if using the same Mozilla prefs or some own ones. And am afraid, they didn't exist yet for your old SM/FF2? But addons are another huge subject, stuff for another novel (sigh), and personally have far less experience, hardly any. Only did experiment 1-2 years ago with adding more toggles to QuickJava, after discovering roytam's FF2-retrozilla with TLS1.2. And after long struggles due to missing skills finally got it working with my main prefs, also as triple-toggles, loved it. Then afterwards discovered the newer versions do have more buttons outofbox already, oops... Just couldn't figure out anymore how to get the FF3.5 addon version to run in FF2 too, but for just own use my messy DIY draft is well enough. But back to those global prefs, they can always be toggled on aboutconfig too of course. This page gives most important info: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Hostperm.1 E.g. a little list which GLOBAL types existed at least back since 2008 (=last edit). The global prefs are at the bottom, while the page itself explains domain EXCEPTIONS, also extremely helpful. Actually this plaintext sheet (hostperm.1) for Firefox2/SM is just the predecessor of permissions.sqlite, what I recommended in previous post, just the file format is different, and forgot my fave addon (ExEx) starts working only in later FF versions (FF3.5?) Important to know for "stylesheet", which you need most by far, in FF2 era: this pref only blocks _externally_ loaded styles, that means loaded from a *.css file, not internal styles defined in the html page itself. So some stuff on some pages remains invisible. Then additional css-snippets in userContent.css can help for those sites, if visited frequently. Or kill the remaining styles by menu again if needed (much more rarely) Or use bookmarklets/buttons/addons etc. for 1-click toggling of inner styles too (am using pure JS for this in KM macro)

Wunderbar98 said: > Curious, due to poor page layout in RetroZilla, do you think some global (not site specific) CSS > modifcations would make a difference or just a zero-sum game? Also, have you ever created > your own RetroZilla View -> Use Style, would you just use userContent.css or an extension like Stylish? That's a quite innocent question, and I don't ignore it purposely. The prob is instead that I could write NOVELS about those struggles! No clue of Firefox, MS or other browsers, sorry, but my old K-Meleon is chock full with all sorts of self-help macros and buttons and menus and styles and a few scripts, all one big chaos, written since over a decade, and the workarounds-heap still growing daily :-/ Would long since have been lost without it. Out-of-box there are too many modern websites almost unusable with such ancient browsers, although for most sites it helps to kill all styles, and some actually look much better that way. But as you noticed too, in the long run it gets tedious. By the way, what hardly anyone knows, this pref is for toggling stylesheets (not inline styles): permissions.default.stylesheet = 1,2,3 (allow,block, domain-only) And this can block iframes: permissions.default.subdocument=1,2,3 And permissions.default.script handles external *.js files... and ...xmlhttprequest handles ajaxlike XHR... And there are a lot more of that kind, in modern browsers also for "media" etc (block html5 video), for ping, object, geo etc. For Firefox (and others) there are old addons guess called "content block" (?) or similar, for such global settings. And addon ExExceptions for managing site exceptions for those element types (this has a catch, its description is wrong, 3rd-party does not refer to the urlbar-domain, only to the src-domain, bottom-up). Love ExEx, extremely tiny, just an editor for Mozilla's native permissions.sqlite, and this one was even ported to KM ages ago. Just wish it would work top-down, as would be natural, but this was Mozilla's decision.

Wunderbar98 said: > IMHO probably a losing battle once a browser needs to modify CSS site specific At the beginning not much of a prob yet. If it helps, it's great. Just occasional fiddling a bit with styles, then glad that frequent sites look neat again. But that was years ago, and meanwhile yeah, it's become a real pain. Now find myself fiddling and struggling with site-fixes almost daily, and gets harder and harder :-( Here are some helper styles for Firefox-2 / 3.5, tried to polish my drafty code a bit. The crucial lines are just a few, marked with "killer" ;-) Hope the board will not mess the syntax. @-moz-document url-prefix(https://msfn.org/board/) , url-prefix(http://web.archive.org/web/20180530181434/https://msfn.org/board/) { /*======= For Firefox3.5 + FF2? / KM1.6 */ /* KILLER since 2020-Feb-13: page only half screen width and comments BELOW author block article=both (unhides middle titles) / aside=left / div.ipsColumn=right : */ article[id^="elComment_"] {display: block !important;} aside.ipsComment_author {display: table-cell !important;} div.ipsColumn {display: table-cell !important; width: auto !important;} /* Fix: crosslinks to other posts only empty rectangles */ body.unloaded #ipsEmbedLoading{position: relative !important;} /* old KM-bug: posted images completely vanished if TLS broken */ div[data-role="commentContent"] img:not([data-emoticon]) { min-width: 30px !important; min-height: 30px !important; } /* other bits */ a {text-decoration: underline !important;} div[class="ipsItemControls"] {background-color: transparent !important; } /*======= Only needed for Firefox2 / KM154 */ /* KILLER since 2020-Feb-13: page only half screen width. No chance except FIX px */ div.ipsColumn {width: 720px !important; } /* dec 2019: FF2/KM154: Fix: title of single topic pages only 5cm wide */ body div h1 span.ipsType_break {width: 750px !important;} /* FF2/KM154: Fix: TAG-rows stacked vertical */ ul.ipsTags {display: table-row !important; } ul.ipsTags li {display: table-cell !important;} ul.ipsTags li a:link {color: blue !important; background-color: transparent !important;} /* dec 2019 FF2/KM154: Fix: pagenumbers stacked vertical */ ul.ipsPagination {display: table-row !important; } ul.ipsPagination li {display: table-cell !important; padding-left: 12px !important;} li.ipsPagination_pageJump a {white-space: nowrap !important;} /* dec 2019 FF2/KM154: Fix: page Numbers white on white etc */ li.ipsPagination_first a, li.ipsPagination_page a, li.ipsPagination_last a, li.ipsPagination_next a, li.ipsPagination_prev a, li.ipsPagination_pageJump a {background-color: transparent !important; } ul.ipsPagination {background-color: transparent !important; } li.ipsPagination_active {background-color: peru !important; } } /* Firefox2 / KM154: Ric: Recent post list too narrow, and titles only 5cm */ @-moz-document url-prefix(https://msfn.org/board/discover) { h2 span { width: 800px !important; padding: 4px !important; font-weight: bold !important; background-color: #ffee66 !important; } }

Goodmaneuver said: > Does everyone experience a 600 pixel wide view when viewing > MSFN forum now with Opera 12.02 or is it just me. Oh yeah :-( Definitely not just you, and not just Opera either, but other very old browsers too, Firefox and other Geckos. That prob first started at Feb-13, and after much struggling and fiddling have finally concluded it depends purely on engine css-capabilities. Useragents don't help at all. And the width is just one prob now, the second annoying layout mess in such ancient browsers is the vertical stacking of author-block and comment-block now! But funnily, that vertical prob is NOT happening in KM1.5 (Firefox2), and not in KM74 (Firefox24), only in between, in my KM1.6+1.7 (Firefox 3.5/3.6). That led me to suspect it may be caused by some 'new' html5 tags introduced in FF3.5 with just initial support, not fully yet, perhaps with other default display values at first, suspects like "aside" or "article"... And obviously same probs in Opera12.02, both, as just tested after your post. Oh great, now must fiddle with that too, grmpf. Anyway, meanwhile figured out workarounds for userContent.css. Not perfect, and it's adjusted to my own screen width (1024), but finally a view again that doesn't hurt they eyes, OUF! That workaround-code is just a bit complicated and messy, meant only for selfhelp. May post it later as last resort, but hope that someone has a better solution? Perhaps should do more tests to figure out more too - wonder e.g. if the original css may work again by only exchanging aside-article with div's again, or whatever was the initial cause? The universal prob is that this messy css with newer html-tags is now affecting LOTS of websites and forums :-( Especially breaks layout widths, usually rather too wide, needing constant scrolling left-right or killing styles completely, but often also half-screen width as here (and I always thought this were intential, being forced unto a narrow 'mobile' view!), or causing overlapping stuff, everthing needing killing all styles as workaround. And suddenly have understood why so many other forums lately have vertically stacked author-blocks, so that stupid layout is not intentional either. So what we really could use urgently is a universal workaround for those tags! What I also wonder: have seen that all browsers have a default css sheet deep inside omni.ja somewhere. Unlike userContent.css, that wouldn't get enforced on all sites, only deliver default values. Would it perhaps help anything to exchange this one with a newer one, containing all new tags with their default values?? Or would that break yet more? And that's probably missing OLDER tags in exchange? Anyone know if there's somewhere a finished perfect "mix" css-sheet for old browsers...?

Mcinwwl said: > And here's where necroposting gets real Not really. Just plain spam. As most such cases. Even obvious if it would not (yet) contain the invisible spam-link in the last quoted line, after the "?"

Couldn't resist searching a bit more, but the only thing ressembling your prob is 7 years old. One would think that's certainly long sinced fixed (cross-site certificates), but who knows, perhaps the ever increasing security features are tripping again? https://support.google.com/youtube/forum/AAAAiuErobUB1pUSICnZ-M/?hl=en Anyway, did I get you right that this prob occurs *only* when logged in with yahoo? In that case Google is probably just enforcing their ownership power, insisting that everyone logs in with a google account now, even when the genuine old accounts still work in theory...

kuja killer said: > if those darn options werent ever removed in the first place, from the account playback settings page, > that would probably fix my account with like "i have slow internet, never play videos in higher quality" > - higher than 360p or something, i dont know. That was there in the past... Just remembered something else: try youtube URL-parameters as workaround? https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/9863/are-the-parameters-for-www-youtube-com-watch-documented/90007 => to get 360x480.mp4 videos, add "&fmt=18" in the urlbar, for testing (The table there is not complete, there exist a bunch more "itag" sizes meanwhile, and flv is dead of course) If this works, you can think further about a bookmarklet or userstyle to add to every video link on your userpage. Or perhaps copy and modify the script that you already have to add that "polymer" string in the url...?

kuja killer said: > What about my last question ?? About getting "viewtube" to always read from > the googlevideo domain instead of youtube, is it possible ?? Let me first say I'm the wrong person for complicated JS stuff, only am forced to try and struggle with it anyway for selfhelp in old os+browser occasionally, so meanwhile have gotten a tiny bit but still bloody beginner skills. Far too little for such scripts, keep that in mind. Just have an own interest in getting direct download links too, and a few days ago tried to dig around in the html source and in another YT userscript, mainly comparing the links for different video qualities. And the prob is: they are all completely different! Just look at how endless long those links are. Some of its query keys look logical, but not all (to me). Just saying this gives me strong doubts that a mere domain replacement would help much. Rather suspect the domain is just an indicator, a symptom, but not the root of your probs. Also suspicious: your problematic links are not url-escaped (e.g. contain a real slash in mimetype key instead of %2F.) But only you can test and tell, since only you seem to get this different page code! Others don't even have the html source, and aren't clairvoyant. For example, you could copy a link that works and one that doesn't, for the same video quality, and compare them? But overall it makes more sense to try again to figure out the root cause, which would solve all symptoms too. Regarding logging in/out, what if you just block all cookies globally when watching a video? That would at least keep the login data.

Since your prob has shifted now to a perhaps more general one, and especially with new known search terms, it's probably easier to just start a new round of googling before fiddling with complicated script stuff ;-) Perhaps even this gives new clues? https://support.google.com/youtube/topic/9257502?hl=en&ref_topic=9257500 Or perhaps page properties reveal anything, or developer tools? (Ctrl + Shift + I) Or those "Advanced settings" link in Dave's screenshot (no clue, can't try it myself)

@kuja killer Whoa... Glad you figured out how to get youtube working again! But what a tricky mess yet again by Google! And as always, purely "accidentally" of course, their software and script updates are harming users of competitor services and products, forcing them to use what Google wants or otherwise they'll only get crippled funtions :-(

Very interesting links... Perhaps a trace? (for experts, not me) For example my googlevideo-links in the html source are fully url-escaped, that means all commas in the links are just "%2C", while in your notepad-screen they are real commas, and the slash in "video/mp4" is "%2F" in my source, etc (and my links contain IP-numbers, yours only xx.xx.xx, but you may have just edited that manually) Can think of more little clarifications details, like if both domains download fine, and if both then playpack in the browser itself, when opened from the local "file:///" addy, but now first wonder: perhaps the fake useragent for youtube should rather be "downgraded" instead of "upgraded"?!

Sorry no clue either, and haven't read all the posts, but since you're stuck, just a bit brainstorming.... The videos are loaded from "https://xxxrandomstring.googlevideo.com/..... That domain has an own predefined useragent string in: "general.useragent.override.googlevideos.com" If that matters, no idea. Or if the oscpu pref may need faking too? Hm, just notice: the URLs in page source load from "googlevideo", but the UA domain is "googlevideos"... Or other domains possibly involved, like gstatic.com...? And are you sure your WMP can stream from https? The screenshot shows only protocols for http+rtps, but am aware that need not mean much. It can probably be tested by first downloading a video with the browser, then play it from disk, but have some doubts if possible with those splitted AV-types. Or probs with other blocked stuff or involved domains? Have read the strangest things (not necessarily yt-related, just in general), about crazy stuff like e.g. blocked "fonts.googleapis.com" messing certain website functions etc. And check all the media prefs on about:config, there are countless...

dj-access said: > I would like, if possible, that it can last me a few years with this installation without becoming excessively slow. Several years, a SSD-disk? And even such a tiny one?? For most people the average lifetime seems about 1 year, then crash. Make sure to keep good backups... And be careful when connecting a backup to a modern Windows computer, in order to restore your data. It might just format the backup automatically... Oh, and make sure it doesn't lie around for a few weeks without getting power, if you like to keep your data. The younger the flash disk or card or stick, and the tinier the cells, the shorter they survive without power... Oh, and if using Firefox with session saver enabled, double-check the time settings for automatic storage...

The most important advantage of the Classic Layout, especially for old browsers, is that it gets displayed without JS too, for at least seeing what the video is about, description, date, number of downloads, likes etc. And then it's possible to get direct video links with sophisticated userscripts. But with old system, old browsers, short on RAM etc, and blocked JS (which would only freeze anyway) it's a disaster now: neither Mobile nor "Modern" Layout shows anything ecxept gray fields or black box, zero text, and the direct embed-link only opens an error page. Which doesn't contain even descriptions in the source. At the moment my only one -lousy- workaround for any non-Classic view is to load the full (300kb) page source with Ctrl+U in Notepad++, then run Plugins > JS Tool > JS Format, and scroll down to almost bottom to finally see some readable text at least. How to get the video download links the future will tell. Perhaps using 3rd-party websites again, or someone can update the userscripts?

looking4awayout said: > I wanted to try New Moon 26.5, to see how it would perform on such a dated laptop, > and interestingly, video performance is great: scrolling is incredibly smooth and fast, > as if I am using Internet Explorer, but it has a huge drawback that prevents me to use > such a browser on that computer: loading pages causes the browser to freeze for > around 30 seconds. If I load a page with externally hosted pictures, no hope Interesting, that reminds me of one of the killer probs with KG74 (for Win2000) on my specific 98 machine: For every link on a page it adds a 0.2sec freeze, cumulating them all, before even showing anything. NM26 and KG74 have the same engine, now wonder if that'S possibly related somehow... Did you notice any dependance on the *number of links* contained in a page? My home page is just a local link list, quite long but pure html, no frills, that demonstrates the prob clearly. (BTW another killer: can't use it anyway, since after loading any LOCAL page the browser will crash when calling 2 or more WEB pages, and vice-versa, very weird)

Am sorry this is all too far beyond my limited skills and HW, but hope it helps others. Just since you mention youtube descriptions, am using this in custom adblock.css to unhide them. That hidden "complete" text had bugged me mighty for years, until finally figuring it out after endless trial+errors. @-moz-document domain(youtube.com) { .autoplay-on {display: none !important; } #default-language-box {display: none !important; } /* hide fix top header (search box) */ div#masthead-positioner {display: none !important; } /* SHOW COMPLETE lower description text!! */ div#watch-description-text { height: auto !important; max-height: none !important; } } (Additionally am using a 20-line script by macro on demand, to show the duration and load the static image)

Bruninho said: > (KernelEx) Tried it last night (4.5.2), and even with the .24 update (I couldn’t find .18) > browsing is still a nightmare. No youtube either. Win98 is pretty much dead. > While on my Win 2000 the experience is much better with BWC, newer browsers and > youtube works, great experience. Especially with SeaMonkey 2.49.5! Overall it's certainly true that using Win98 in todays web is a major struggle. Lots of tweaking and dedication required, constantly needing new little fixes, that only makes sense if either no other OS choice or being really enthousiast about it. Just for a bit occasional fun it's a waste of time. But judging the overall internet fitness based on youtube is IMO not realistic, since Google does everything to mess its sites on older browsers, sometimes even quite sneakily for modern Firefox versions. And yes, there are userscripts which help to download YT videos to watch in standalone players (look e.g. for the tweaked viewtube script posted recently by... (guess vikmin?) It also helps to install tools and stuff like the KLiteCodec pack etc And yes, as you said, mobile website versions if available, example: https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%28k-meleon%29+OR+kmeleon+OR+%40kmeleontwin+-_Kmeleon+since%3A2019-10-01&s=typd&x=0&y=0 https://old.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/cuk9g1/heres_a_rootless_adb_list_of_samsung_bloatware_to/ But additionally some sites require special useragent strings And/or depending on browser version, also css-tweaks, etc. ,which cost a lot of time figuring out. Or killing css-styles altogether. Or if all else fails, then load from Google cache or Google Weblight BUT most of all: you have a modern KernelEx installed, yet still only tried Retrozilla (like FF2), that gives a completely wrong impression! Retrozilla or FF2 are only the last rescue for vanilla versions, without any KernelEx Even with good old basic KernelEx4.5.2 there are better choices, for example roytam1's TLS-build of Firefox3.6 (fx36), this engine is much better as FF2 already. Or until 1-2 years ago old Opera12.02 was almost fully functional, which had a very advanced engine for its era, containing some html5 and some TLS1.2 ciphers already. Just recently getting a bit short of breath on some sites. Firefox9 seems to run stable too, except for the pesky missing ciphers of course. But with your cutting edge version of KernelEx you can get a LOT further, am just not sure where the limits are?? Would start tests on top: RT-Version of NewMoon27 / Tycho. No clue, any chance?? Someone with a very heavily tweaked 98 system mentioned he can run KM-Goanna76, same engine as NM27. And have seen that jumper (who develops KernelEx) has a testing eye on it too, perhaps hope for the future ;-) On a lower level, there are RT-builds of NewMoon26 for vanilla Win2000, and same engine in KM-Goanna74. That means engine era of Firefox24, a HUGE difference to Firefox2/Retrozilla. Well, IF running... Personally I'd be most interested in experiences with KG74. With my older Kex16/17 at the moment, and being KM-Fan, am currently struggling with a mix of KM1.6/KG74/KMz154, juggling with the flaws of each. The killer prob for KM is the huge gap between the two TLS1.2 browsers, between Firefox2 and PaleMoon26 engines. KMz154 has an engine far too old for daily use, and KG74 is far too buggy yet on my lesser tweaked machine. The engine itself seems quite good, the prob is rather the KM-shell, especially crashing menus, some weird 0.2sec freeze for every single link on a page, a prob with sqlite etc. Am sure some of those are connected to "normal" bugs, not system related. And hope that it works better in newer KernelEx versions, just couldn't try yet. Meanwhile could save myself temporarily by adding TLS1.2 partly to KM1.6 (FF3.5) using DIY experiments, but helps only partially. At least it can now load the same sites as Opera12.02 (wikipedia, twitter, etc) RT-Firefox3.6 runs stable of course and with full TLS1.2, even with KernelEx4.5.2, good compromise, just cannot do any FF-tweaks myself ;-) Important: don't forget to set the matching KernelEx CompatModes, in the exe properties tab And when renaming a folder, remember that setting gets lost and must be renewed again.

Just to avoid possible misunderstandings, my rant above wasn't meant to push the browser issue further, since my hope for it was at best 50/50 anyway. Based on lots of experiences with today's people in power positions not caring to waste even a single or five minutes of their own time just in exchange to save hundreds or sometimes thousands hours of useless time waste and struggle for other people (same goes for money issues in today's society). So my pre-previous post directed at RT was just normal discussion mode and I would have kept silent if declined (as expected, business as usual). A completely different thing of course was my previous reply above, that was not caused by a probable decline of RT, only prompted by the additional display of glee on top of not caring at all, which is completely unnecessary.

dencorso said: > For those users there's the latest iPhone. For the other users who need video tutorials spoon-feeding them in baby steps, the latest iPhone is also a good bet < Now, for those who love to experiment and find out thingas for themselves, for those who are game for reinstalling a zillion times with minor variations, And what about the 90% ordinary people in between those 2 extremes? Those who need a minimum of human rights and freedom and privacy, but have neither enough skills nor enough time to waste thousand hours, like a hobbyist can play with a "zillion times" experiments, just for fun? Time wasted completely unnecessarily for normal people, just because experts who could make things a lot easier with just a fingersnip often, a tiny bit effort (sometimes even just a minute), simply want to keep looking down on them? What if such ordinary people can neither get help from third persons? Yeah, they're just forced to give up - who cares. Let's laugh about them and mock them, they don't deserve better if they can't help themselves. But sometimes there will come situations where the roles are inversed.

> because original zip file doesn't contain it Okay, after checking the official download page and looking inside the packages, it actually seems the tradition of 7z being by default portable builds started only with KM1.6. But still, that's no reason to never improve it, considering it may be problematic for user profiles, and no one is aware before it's too late. Your KG74 + KG76 builds contain that switcher file too, and the official old KM74.7z too, and just about all other 7z since KM1.6

Horror. Pure horror. Just yet another incredible revelation: https://gen.medium.com/amazon-is-an-even-bigger-threat-to-privacy-than-facebook-a52638e9e314?gi=d04fda0abb6 (link posted by caliber: https://msfn.org/board/topic/180462-my-browser-builds-part-2/?do=findComment&comment=1177151 ) This is only the beginning, and then gets even worse: > Amazon Is an Even Bigger Threat to Privacy Than Facebook > With its Ring doorbell, the tech giant can now see what you buy, what you browse, and who you’re letting into your home It's really long since too late already to escape the total surveillance everywhere. Regarding this part: > (Amazon claims they aren’t going to integrate facial recognition into its Ring cameras, > but mark my words: It’s only a matter of time before they do.) they are doing it long since too. An article from Aug. last year says amazon is selling face recognition service for just 40cent per 1000 faces, from the videos recorded onto their servers, also for things like those private smart doorbells: https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article198730615/Videoueberwachung-Hongkongs-Protest-betrifft-auch-Amazon-und-Google.html G-translation (haven't figured out yet how to include a 2nd quote here): The cameras from providers such as Google's smart home subsidiary Nest stream their images directly to the group's cloud server, where the images are evaluated by facial recognition algorithms. If a strange face appears, the systems sound the alarm. As a result, the number of private cameras is likely to increase significantly faster than that of public bodies. Amazon also provides the appropriate algorithms for evaluating the cameras: The Rekognition service from the cloud subsidiary AWS promises the cost-effective facial evaluation of large amounts of video data; the group only charges 40 cents for every 1,000 facial images processed, and police authorities in the USA also report special offers for investigators