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  1. @Radish, Very glad the comment helped. I think a similar situation was part of the solution to the old MU/WU problem where it took hours to display the available updates each month. I'm hoping that @dencorso will chime in to remind us of what the full solution for that problem was found to be. For the IE updates I choose to install, first off I usually wait a month or two after ANY update is released before I even think about installing it. Then, unless it has been flagged either here or at Woody's that the update has a problem, if it is specified for IE11 then I install it. But I NEVER use IE on purpose. I've never installed or used MS Edge. and unless it becomes required for some other part of the OS to function, such as MU/WU, I don't intend to. If that changes, I'll probably treat Edge like I'm currently treating IE. I'll keep it fully updated and never purposely use it. If you choose to use certain software products (such as MS Office products or a particular VPN) you might need additional MS updates, even if they are not specified for those products' use, because of what might be going on in the background, like you discovered trying to play certain videos with Firefox. Cheers and Regards
  2. For me, the past behavior is the same as the current behavior. That is that clicking on the thread title takes you to the first post. [The thread title will be bold if there are posts you haven't read.] Hovering over the thread title allows you to see at least part of the first or last post in the thread, you can choose. If there are posts you haven't read, there will be a "quote balloon" marker to the left of the thread title, which will be filled in if you have participated in the thread and open if you haven't. Clicking that marker will take you to the first post that you have not read, with the "New content begins here" marker directly above that. That is the behavior I see when going through the various forum index pages. The look is a little different when using the Activity or Unread Content pages, it also includes avatars of the posters, but the effect is the same. At least the above is what I see using Win 7 and a Chrome variant browser. I don't know if that helps you or not. Cheers and Regards
  3. It ends up that first one might not be needed after all. According to this: (look in the "Package Details" tab) KB3177467 has been replaced by KB4490628. The "Package Details" info of KB4490628 confirms that it replaces KB3177467. So unless KB3177467 is required as a prerequisite for one of the other updates, it looks like it can be left off. Or you might just change the installation order. I also need .NET for my VPN. I don't go out of my way to either use or avoid .NET, but I prefer to have it fully updated in case it is needed. Like you, I avoid IE completely, but since I think other parts of the OS might use aspects of IE behind the scene, I choose to keep it updated, but NEVER use it on purpose. EDIT: Regarding: I THINK that one or both of those were involved in fixing the "Windows Update takes forever" problem, along with manually installing the latest IE updates and perhaps MS Office updates? I've forgotten what the solution ended up being, and how it might apply to this thread. Perhaps @dencorso can remind us? On the one hand, if you're not going to install updates you might not care how long it takes to come up with the potential update list, but on the other hand, having the computer stuck in a loop for several hours definitely indicates something is very wrong. I have no problem with having: installed, and since I keep .NET up to date that will address KB958488 that you have installed. Cheers and Regards
  4. And those five are? These perhaps? KB3033929 (download can be accessed via here): KB3071756 update (MS15-085) for Win7 MicrosoftFixit50688.msi not easily available anymore, But I found it here. [Thanks @alacran!] Standalone Install Download: Microsoft Update Catalog - KB4474419 Standalone Install Download: Microsoft Update Catalog - KB4490628 I assume you keep .NET and IE up to date. [Since I'm not aware of any nasty updates in those two categories.] If so, do you have a list of the appropriate current updates available? [Just to keep things handy in as few posts as possible for those that want to use the minimum Win 7 updates as possible while still maintaining the maximum usability and performance.] TIA. I also realize that this approach is only recommended for careful, intelligent, and thoughtful users that use other precautions to protect themselves and don't wander in inappropriate area, don't add every possible browser extension, don't blindly click on every link in every email they receive, and don't install software from sources they are not sure of. If @taos wouldn't mind, it would be handy if he would summarize in the first post the three or four apparent different approaches that seem to be proposed in this thread to answer his original question: [Again, just to be handy.] 1) The five or so listed above (plus ,Net and IE?) 2) Nothing except SP1 unless your software requires it (and maybe some of 1?) 3) Everything up to Dec 2017 via either Simplex or WSUS Offline Update (and maybe some of 1?) 4) Keep up to date but only security updates using WSUS Offline Update (and .NET and IE?) That would kind of echo the approach that @dencorso uses in the thread "How to avoid being "upgraded to Win 10" against your will". Just a thought. Cheers and Regards
  5. bphlpt

    DX12 Win 7

    Unfortunately, I doubt it. It seems they drew from the DX12 API and packaged up a dll that works with one game's calls for specific uses, I doubt very much they'll release the complete DX12 runtimes. There would be a LOT of driver access issues, since WIn 10 handles that totally different to Windows 7, so it would really only be the API's that spread the GPU load across multiple cores instead of single thread. If you want to get technical, you could say it's a DLL that in theory you could call, but you would need to disassemble the DLL to get the API names and input/output values. So in theory anyone could use these new DirectX 12 features instead of the DX 11 ones and it would give you dual core control. But I can't think of anybody who would be willing to put in that sort of time. What MS could have done is made Unreal Engine and Unity support the same feature. This would give Win 7 a leg up in the games area and make many people happy, I imagine it would be quite easy for MS, Epic and Unity Technologies to compile their Engines to support such things, Then each Game could be recompiled to support the new engine instead of having to re-code each game. Seeing as most people use steam etc to update their games, it would happen automatically for most users. The issue is that MS doesn't want Windows 7 to be around anymore. Cheers and Regards
  6. Why not just wipe the disk clean and sell the computer with a blank, empty drive? Cheers and Regards
  7. With a little exploration I found an x64 version here - https://download-origin.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-esr52-win64/1536215521/firefox-52.9.1.en-US.win64.installer.exe and here - https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-esr52-win64/1536215521/firefox-52.9.1.en-US.win64.installer.exe. Please note that I have NOT tested this at all, merely found it and confirmed that it would download. Cheers and Regards
  8. Perhaps, but I think there has been as much or more, and definitely more recent, activity as the various topics under Other Member Contributed Projects. Since, I assume, the browsers can be used in OS other than XP, that might help raise awareness and interest. If a section was created there, and IF more activity was created as a result, then the discussion of whether or not to create a section higher up under Member Contributed Projects could be raised again at that time. Just my two cents, of course.
  9. Well, Bill told me it's all part of his master plan. By the way, he's coming back. He, like all of us, has finally had enough of the current administration's ridiculousness. He told me all of this in the strictest confidence, (he was a little drunk at the time), but I can trust you guys, right? Cheers and Regards
  10. Another way to put it, is that all of us on this board, and other similar technical boards, are more than willing to HELP a fellow computer enthusiast, or even a beginner, But as a general rule, we do not care to do it for you. We expect you to have at least given a good try at searching the board for the possibility that someone has already done what you are trying to do and posted it here on the board. If not found, and in your case since you have not purchased the motherboard you are curious about using, it might have been better to have stated: "I'm thinking about getting a _______ motherboard and am wondering if anyone has any experience with running XP64 on that board? I've tried to search the board for other such users and have come up blank." For those who have already gotten the motherboard, we expect the user to have first tried their best to have done the work themselves. Then, if they are not successful, they should post and tell us: EXACT description of the motherboard and all other add-in cards and other equipment that they will need drivers for. EXACTLY what they have tried to do to get the OS to install and working. EXACTLY what they expected to happen. EXACTLY what did happen instead. Summary of what they were able to get working, either completely working or partially working. At that point we will have a good understanding of where you stand and how we might be able to help you. Also, you will be in a good position to better understand and apply the information we hopefully can give you. I don't think any of the members who have replied to this thread intended to be rude to you in any way, We truly want to encourage computer users to try and use computer hardware and software in creative ways, including ways in which they might not have been intended, such as using older OS versions on newer hardware. When such users post here and detail their trials, tribulations, and successes, that's how we all can learn something new. Good luck in your endeavors, and welcome to MSFN! Cheers and Regards
  11. That's why, anything I download for the Kindle, I convert it also to pdf and store it on my computer. To my knowledge, there's no way that Amazon can get to it at that point. Cheers and Regards
  12. FWIW, it worked for me using SRWare Iron w/ Win7 Pro x64. I haven't done anything I'm aware of to load the emoticon images into my cache, but then I also haven't done anything I'm aware of to prevent their being loaded, either. To me, as in any other time when I'm trying to figure out how to force a post to display with the desired look, this is just yet one more reason why I wish the "good" folks who supply our board software hadn't removed the ability to alternate between BBCode mode and WYSIWYG mode. But I know that ship has long sailed since I don't think they even use BBCode mode internally any more, Not that they NEEDED to change from a format that has worked perfectly well for many years, but ... --::sigh::-- n/m [end of rant] Cheers and Regards
  13. I haven't ever seen it, but it seems that it is a real thing and has been around for at least 10 years, according to this site - http://www.bottomsupbeer.com/, and apparently your gif above is a commercial for that company. Did you mean to imply by "were it possible in the real world", that it wasn't a real thing? Cheers and Regards
  14. I don't know if the failing switch was at fault, but as of right now, the board response time is much better than it has been in a while. I agree that CloudFlare might help a little bit with some of the problems MSFN has been experiencing. Cheers and Regards
  15. No disrespect meant, but I'm wondering what is it about MSFN that has caused it to be targeted for attack or have other major failures over the last several years? At least it seems that way when empirically comparing it to the uptimes and response times of other tech forums such as RyanVM, WinCert, MDL, etc. Very curious. EDIT: This is a MAJOR understatement. Cheers and Regards
  16. I believe that NoelC uses Intel processors in all of his systems. I'm curious whether the same kinds of performance hits he has observed are also present in AMD processor based systems. Has anyone experienced that? In either case, besides avoiding Meltdown and Spectre specific patches and several other updates we've already been avoiding to prevent telemetry and downgrading to Win 10 etc, if MS has started using the cumulative update model for not only Win 10 but for Win 7 and 8.x as well, are there any updates since Dec 2017 that are safe (and useful? ) to apply to Win 7 and 8.x that will not have an appreciable impact on performance? Are we stuck using a Dec 2017 version of the OS from here on out? Yes I know that many folks comfortably use even older OS or take the approach of almost never applying updates except to address specific problems they might encounter, but I'm not sure I'm completely comfortable with that approach quite yet. I would be more comfortable with a revised list of updates to avoid, or a list of which updates are OK, if anyone is willing to maintain such a list. Something like an expanded version of the 'How to avoid being "upgraded to Win 10" against your will:', perhaps? But that's just me. Cheers and Regards
  17. Xper, this latest site crash seems quite catastrophic, and in no way any fault of yours. We sympathize with you and the extra work and stress you must be under as you have to struggle to return the site to a functioning state. I only ask that you please establish some kind of emergency communication channel between you and one or two of the mods so that they can keep the users aware of what's going on. There is already a channel that the mods can use to communicate with the users. This time, it seemed that everyone was in the dark. Even if all we can do is offer you our thoughts and prayers, we would appreciate being kept informed of the overall situation, at least in generalities. In return, if there is anything at all that you can think of that we might be able to do for you, please ask. Thanks in advance for your consideration of this request. Cheers and Regards
  18. Ah Hah!!!! So it's YOUR fault! At least we finally have someone to blame. Don't do that again! (Just kidding!) Cheers and Regards
  19. bphlpt

    IE 8 in 2018?

    After you installed all of that I assume the your system showed that it was up to date? If so, then be happy and don't bother to check MU until the next month. At that time, repeat the process: First, these days I would suggest waiting until a week or two after the updates are released to make sure there are no problems with them - let somebody else be the guinea pig instead of you. Then manually install the current IE8 cumulative update and any appropriate Office related updates. After restarting, MU should act appropriately to get the rest of any necessary updates. Once it shows you're up to date then leave it alone until the next month. It used to work fine to check MU/WU daily or weekly if you wanted to, just to be sure you weren't missing out on anything. These days, leave well enough alone and only use it as infrequently as possible. There are just too many problems with the system to do otherwise. Why drive yourself crazy for no benefits? Just my opinion. Cheers and Regards
  20. bphlpt

    IE 8 in 2018?

    What, EXACTLY, and I mean EVERYTHING, have you done to your system since it was working a few days ago? What has changed? Why were you even trying to run MU now anyway? There shouldn't have been any new updates available in the last few days. Without this information we have no idea how to help you. The procedures you have been provided (in this thread, and here and here) work, and solve the endless searching problem, AFAIK, so I'm assuming the problem is on your end. Remember, read the instructions carefully and follow them completely. If it doesn't work, try it again and do it even more carefully and slowly, double checking yourself at each step. If it still doesn't work, come back, tell us exactly what you did, what you expected to happen and exactly what happened instead. Then maybe someone can help you. [This is good general advice on how to get the best results when you ask for help on any technical forum. The members on such forums are usually willing to help you, but most are not willing to do it for you.] Cheers and Regards
  21. bphlpt

    IE 8 in 2018?

    @apreese16, Well, in @dencorso's post here, originally posted by @VistaLover here: That might, or might not, make them show up in "advanced", possibly after another restart. No offense, but from reading this entire thread, it seems that you need to read and follow instructions more carefully. Cheers and Regards
  22. Actually, No. Recheck the more recent info posted at your link and also look at netmarketshare directly. Windows 7 -- 44.81 % Windows 10 -- 28.19% Windows XP -- 7.27% Windows 8.1 -- 6.41% Even the original poster couldn't seem to duplicate his original claim. So you might want to re-title this thread. Cheers and Regards
  23. AFAIK, @rloew and @Destro are correct. The license has to match the version. The SP level is totally immaterial. And as Destro also said, it is possible to change the version of the source you have in order to match the license you have access to. But again, the SP level has nothing to do with that. You might be thinking of the Upgrade discs that were sold, for XP SP2 for example, but the license that went along with that was only required if you were "upgrading" from a non-XP OS such as Win2K. If you already had a licensed version of XP, then SP2 was available for download for free, and would install with the original XP license you already had, as rloew explained. Cheers and Regards
  24. Ahhh Thank you very much. Cheers and Regards
  25. Right click where? Can you please post a pic showing exactly where to click? TIA Cheers and Regards
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