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New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2106 - Part 1: Un-prefix -moz-user-select (cc55a380f6) - Issue #2106 - Part 2: Align value names (17b594b705) - No issue - Fix mixing of tabs with space-indented code. (552cb8dbcc) - Issue #2045 - Part 1: Revert "Temporarily force hidden elements to be actually hidden." (dd2cf17d30) - Issue #2045 - Part 2: Add handling and storage for the revert unit and value (7f3f90eed4) - Issue #2045 - Part 3: Implement cascade origin tracking to CSS parser (b0f0972314) - Issue #2045 - Part 4: Parse "revert" in property values wherever "unset" is allowed (9105c58a30) - Issue #2045 - Part 5: Serialize shorthands using "revert" like those containing "unset" (801d4a2db8) - Issue #2045 - Part 6: Treat "revert" values as the same as "unset" when encountered in the rule node (c4b6135c99) - Issue #2045 - Part 7: Override revert values during presentation hint cascade (166e98d2b9) - Issue #2045 - Part 8: Remap revert keyword values to a higher cascade level (a47f44e93d) - Issue #2045 - Part 9: Include the revert keyword in the list of accepted values for CSS properties returned by inDOMUtils (5346e55655) - Issue #2045 - Part 10: Regenerate devtools CSS database and include the revert keyword in related devtools code (f0b8d1df2c) - Issue #2106 - Part 3: Add 'contain' as user-select value, retain 'element' (e6b48fcc95) - [devtools] Further improve special character escaping in "copy as curl". (2d9cb22a28) - No Issue - Add detection for medium in border shorthand (9f7430f8b9) - Issue #2124 - Adjust overflow parser to handle two values (f4ffb1ec16) - Issue #2662 - Implement axis-shorthand parsing (7c52fd934f) - Issue #2124/2662: Optimize overflow shorthand parsing and serialization (7626c99ceb) - Issue #2124/2662: Cleaning of code (dae72b452c) - Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional Un-prefixing (1a5b3dcae6) - Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Un-prefix DOM Attribute MozUserSelect (abb891ff26) - Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional contain Keyword Entries (f1815317c3) - Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Remove Defunct -moz-user-select CSS Directives (8f46cd0d63) - Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Un-prefix -moz-user-select in Comments (b11affbdf3) - Issue #2780: Add back the mismatch overflow handling in nsRuleNode.cpp (c3590da576) - Issue #2757: Create a new basicShape of type inset then set inset coords to zero. (67421b3048) - Issue #2757 - Follow-up: Add clip-path test (manual QA) (3f67905afc) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - gfx: relax DrawTargetCairo::IsValid() check, fixes crash when loading spectrumsurveys.com (10b96192dd) - layout: plug back alias of -moz-user-select so it won't break pages/extensions relying on this (4c8df426a8) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250712-6129895b4-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250712-6129895b4-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 1: Un-prefix -moz-user-select (cc55a380) (cfadbb5d6) - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 2: Align value names (17b594b7) (3a0677ec7) - import from UXP: No issue - Fix mixing of tabs with space-indented code. (552cb8db) (4634fe9d1) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 1: Revert "Temporarily force hidden elements to be actually hidden." (dd2cf17d) (29e601bb8) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 2: Add handling and storage for the revert unit and value (7f3f90ee) (f49dc1068) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 3: Implement cascade origin tracking to CSS parser (b0f09723) (13380336f) - import from UXP: - Issue #2045 - Part 4: Parse "revert" in property values wherever "unset" is allowed (9105c58a) - Issue #2045 - Part 5: Serialize shorthands using "revert" like those containing "unset" (801d4a2d) (f780f6a0c) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 6: Treat "revert" values as the same as "unset" when encountered in the rule node (c4b6135c) (0ddba686d) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 7: Override revert values during presentation hint cascade (166e98d2) (33497a7bb) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 8: Remap revert keyword values to a higher cascade level (a47f44e9) (7e8276dd1) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 9: Include the revert keyword in the list of accepted values for CSS properties returned by inDOMUtils (5346e556) (5b3195dad) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 10: Regenerate devtools CSS database and include the revert keyword in related devtools code (f0b8d1df) (e92c563a4) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 3: Add 'contain' as user-select value, retain 'element' (e6b48fcc) (f073823cd) - ported from UXP: [devtools] Further improve special character escaping in "copy as curl". (2d9cb22a) (28bf4bcf2) - ported from UXP: No Issue - Add detection for medium in border shorthand (9f7430f8) (4f0690a20) - import from UXP: Issue #2124 - Adjust overflow parser to handle two values (f4ffb1ec) (ae483ab3b) - ported from UXP: Issue #2662 - Implement axis-shorthand parsing (7c52fd93) (f7844356c) - ported from UXP: Issue #2124/2662: Optimize overflow shorthand parsing and serialization (7626c99c) (55a3af5f7) - ported from UXP: Issue #2124/2662: Cleaning of code (dae72b45) (9c80beb8f) - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional Un-prefixing (1a5b3dca) (82ff6f599) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Un-prefix DOM Attribute MozUserSelect (abb891ff) (2b505c1fd) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional contain Keyword Entries (f1815317) (db2c8fdb5) - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Remove Defunct -moz-user-select CSS Directives (8f46cd0d) (37991f84a) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Un-prefix -moz-user-select in Comments (b11affbd) (477ab51c4) - import from UXP: Issue #2780: Add back the mismatch overflow handling in nsRuleNode.cpp (c3590da5) (0ee810368) - import from UXP: Issue #2757: Create a new basicShape of type inset then set inset coords to zero. (67421b30) (0ea914daf) - import from UXP: Issue #2757 - Follow-up: Add clip-path test (manual QA) (3f67905a) (1b8fbc344) - import from `custom` branch of UXP: gfx: relax DrawTargetCairo::IsValid() check, fixes crash when loading spectrumsurveys.com (10b96192) (6129895b4)

I think we have to take Shane's word for it that the patch has been applied to Supermium 132. As I said earlier, it's an ESR version, which surely should be capable of having the patch applied to it, as it should be fully supported until the next ESR version is released. I'm not sure how we can test whether the patch has been applied successfully or not.

@reboot12 Make some tests with disable and enable the Microsoft UAA drivers in System Devices. I remember, that I had the same problem and the admin @Dave-H here also with Baytrail Flex 10 and XP and sound Dietmar

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250712-7bda12e7-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250712-7bda12e7-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250712-id-656ea98-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250712-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

Strange, but it appears that the issue has completely resolved itself.

At least the acronym (BSoD) will still be valid, since both black and blue begin with the letter 'b' c

Then it's a good idea to use the patched ungoogled for Server 2008 R2. No one knows and no one can guarantee how good and when the old 132 Supermium will (ever?) be patched for that serious vulnerability. https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Chromium-for-windows-7/releases/tag/ungoogled-chromium_138.0.7204.96 Edit/ They say it's been patched in R5. But in the article they say the patch is for 138+! Contradictory. https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/releases/tag/v132-r5

That was clear, but from what they tell, looks like the patch is intended to be applied only to 138+. Who would write a patch for the old 132, while we are at 140+ already?

off topic: after using for 5 years and wrote ~90TB, my SN750 1TB lost from system first time. following experience from last time, I grabbed my unconnected idle 970evo+ and did a quick clone and let SN750 idle without electricity instead. time to find another m.2 stick with DRAM.

Thanks for linking! Unfortunately, such comparisons are not particularly useful. It also depends considerably on other components such as the RAM memory, north and south bridge, the bus clock, the graphics adapter, processor features, hyper-threading and so on.

Not quite true. I use both my old Windows XP computer and my Android tablet for what you call "real work". And in some special cases, a notebook with Windows 7 and Windows 10. But that was not the point here. Anyway! This thread is actually about Mypal 68, and I am happy to confirm that this browser works well on my old hardware. And much better when optimised.

Probably @Cixert assumed, and rightfully so, the double engine of 360 Explorer or something similar would be implemented in Supermium, too.

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You mean ChatGPT suffers a notorious paranoia?

I don't know anything about Python either, but I just uploaded the new `update.py` (with only one line changed) into the GitHub web editor and committed.

... Huh, I see ... This is very puzzling, indeed ; in fact, the "yt-dl.org" domain now auto-redirects to yt-dlp GitHub URLs, e.g. https://yt-dl.org => https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp , which, of course, is a fork of the original youtube-dl project; I think dirkf doesn't have immediate access to the "yt-dl.org" server (wasn't that one blocked in Germany at some point?), so the answer about who arranged the autoredirection to yt-dlp might be possibly found inside the yt-dlp repo itself (too hot here currently for me to check, sorry ) ... I know; however, I have a small list of test commands I issue with fresh releases of both youtube-dl (nightly branch) and yt-dlp (your "Vista" compatible build) and that same list was used to test your 2025.07.11 compile; that was how I noticed the change in behaviour for " -vU" ... As I'm not proficient in Python (quite the opposite, in fact ), that was what I was about to suggest to you ; glad you got it sorted already ... The same with most "yt-dl.org" links contained inside: https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html I know ; I had already modified locally the latest "official" Nightly release (2025.05.05) according to your posted diff on GH; let's hope a py3.4 solution becomes available if evil Google start blocking Chrome > 97 UAs... Best regards !

We need a "benign exploit" page (a page that triggers the bug but doesn't do anything harmful) to test for this vulnerability. We had one for the WebP vulnerability.

His post is neither useless, nor senseless. Learn to look for before you write your senseless posts It's been confirmed by reputable members of MSFN that those don't work. "This didn't work for me." https://msfn.org/board/topic/186420-mod-for-intel-haswell-4600-hd-graphics-drivers-for-xp/#findComment-1271208 "Edit: After a while (5-8hours) if the PC is not used, the mouse works but I can't open anything that was minimized in the taskbar. I have to restart the PC to get it working again. Did you see this kind of behaviour? I'm using 32bit XP." https://msfn.org/board/topic/186420-mod-for-intel-haswell-4600-hd-graphics-drivers-for-xp/#findComment-1271490

Eh, everything is described in this forum - learn to look for before you write senseless posts https://msfn.org/board/topic/183956-asus-b85m-e-with-core-i5-4590-code-10-in-device-manager/ https://msfn.org/board/topic/176356-simple-xp-32bit-64gb-ram-true-pae-guide/page/10/#findComment-1280987

Okay. Your suggestion just worked for me as well as FindNextFileA works too when I got mypal68 to work on Windows XP SP1.

i was referring to group of people they selected even more ironic they taped it and showed to public you can still find it, bunch of brainless people who never used pc...

im not certain, it would requie to read out all the stuff that has been done related to this patches the /3GB is known to have some problems too, i dont know the problems with it j7n maybe has some knowledge here ? if its a problem with the /3GB switch there would be also the /USERVA switch to set a different value (between 2048 and 3072 (3 gb)) https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/memory/4-gigabyte-tuning the one from dibya only use a small patch - maybe that would be worth a shot daniel k.´s patch use more of changes, maybe static offsets - that would be a reason why they dont work together also the method daniel k. described could trigger a crash not certain what "the russian patch" do to solve this problem is at the moment to much things around, i might can tell the norm´s, talks, idea´s a debug analize for example would take some time but if it comes to new work im busy at the moment sorry i also dont have the function test for dibya´s patch (aka if it passes the 4 gb limit) there should be someone to try these patches with the method j7n did to do so is simple just disabling the pagefile, then starting up app´s/executables that eat up more then 4 GB of ram if that is possible that patch is likely to work

*facepalm the vista experiment among id*** if i have to write it like so ...

https://github.com/advisories/GHSA-mj9c-f5v6-7665 Severity: High (8.1/10) https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2025/06/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_30.html Manual mitigation, at the expense of performance, if you don't want to update: https://github.com/Alex313031/thorium/issues/1024#issuecomment-3038992237

New release 132.0.6834.226 R5. This release was expedited to cover critical vulnerability CVE-2025-6554 (#1486). Some other changes were made: (#1480) - "Web Scrobbler" extension should now work on Windows XP, as well as other extensions that create notifications (#1473) - Favicons should no longer slide out of tab bounds when dozens of tabs are open in a given window (#1483) - Support for custom tab and new tab button shapes that are derived from an scs file are disabled by default after some users experienced performance declines after their introduction. This functionality is now gated behind the --enable-advanced-customization switch. Unless someone tells me that CVE-2025-6554 (#1486) is really important, I think I'll pass on this one.

The owner of the website determines what level of "protection" is used, not Cloudflare. Cloudflare simply gives the tools to the owner.

This topic is designed to compare the overall performance of different computers with each other under Windows XP.

@NotHereToPlayGames Here we are: Define the parameters of such a test and I will engage in this battle. Quantifiable measurements where neither one of us can "cheat". Then we'll let the rest of MSFN members "decide for themselves". Since the word offtopic is apparently not in your vocabulary, I hereby move our conversation to this thread created specifically for the purpose of computer performance comparisons in order to finally be ontopic again. Your proposed test procedure is far too fiddly and time-consuming. I am more in favour of using a well-known, locally installed test tool (i.e. offline tool) that tests all components and generates an overall performance index for the purpose of comparison. My suggestion: PCMark05 which still supports Windows XP.

I am not always right. But a pure comparison of CPUs is not sufficient. Read here, for example, about the difference between SD-RAM and DDR2-RAM: https://www.transcend-info.com/support/faq-296#:~:text=DDR2 SDRAM(Double Data Rate,(double of DDR SDRAM). Maybe now you'll realise what I'm talking about. And apart from that, an Intel Pentium 4 is not the same as an Intel Pentium 4. There were different series like Willamette, Northwood, and Prescott. And within these series different FSB clock rates. So, forget about these comparison sites! The only way to compare our computers is doing the same test regarding all hardware components. P.S.: Due to my motherboard layout, there are several bottlenecks. Firstly, the extremely slow SD-RAM memory, then the very low bus clock rate and finally the AGP 4x interface, although my graphics card actually is an AGP 8x one.

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Done! https://msfn.org/board/topic/186225-change-a-letter-game-part-ii/?do=findComment&comment=1266415

And now, disable Circular Kernel Context Logger and Audio logger. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WMI\Autologger] "Status"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WMI\Autologger\Audio] "Start"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WMI\Autologger\Circular Kernel Context Logger] "Start"=dword:00000000

WMItracing.log OFF (Vista) Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WBEM\Tracing\WMI] "SessionEnabled"=dword:00000000 "Level"=dword:00000000

... Age-related YouTube blocks can be successfully circumvented, while being logged out of course, by using below userscript: https://github.com/zerodytrash/Simple-YouTube-Age-Restriction-Bypass?tab=readme-ov-file#userscript I did my little experiment while being logged out of course but without any YouTube Age Restriction Bypass script. I never had such age-related blocks on YouTube here.

Thanks for clarification! I will edit it to my needs.

That is of course possible. In any case, I do not have those problems with uBO‘s logger you have described.

Glad that explains it, I do have the Segoe UI fonts installed on XP. I can't remember why.

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Probably they implemented some anti-hack feature, in addition to limiting youtube's videos frequently posted by some members?

I guess 3.5 would be enough since he wanted 3.2.

Chip NEC D720200AF1 has certified Dell Vista drivers. Supported Operating Systems Windows Vista, 32-bit Windows Vista, 64-bit Windows XP Windows XP, 64-bit Don't worry about the Dutch language link, it will switch to yours automatically (it depends on the location). https://www.dell.com/support/home/nl-nl/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=36x7d

You need something with the Chip NEC D720200AF1 https://www.tiger-technik.de/PC-Zubehoer/Schnittstellen-Karten/2-Port-USB-3-0-PCIe-PCI-Express-Karte-Adapter-Card-NEC-D720200AF1-chip-rot-sk47::7334.html

You can! I think @UCyborgported rufus to Vista, I'm sorry, I don't remember which version exactly as I don't use it, but I tried out of curiosity and it worked. Ask him for the links.

Thank you for the detailed explanation!