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Thanks as always to a thoughtful writeup. I'll add my own slight additions. I myself have not "installed" any software for the better part of two decades, I do as much as possible via PORTABLE applications. PortableApps.com popularized the use of portable software. They began in 2006. WinPenPack has actually been around for slightly longer (by mere months, not years). You go even further back (by years) when you include those of us with familiarity to UNIX. With regard to associations with protocols/files/applications, portable software isn't really about not having these associations, but rather having exact and precise finite control of these associations. This PRECISE CONTROL is really only limited by the user's own intentions/imagination. You really can have this PRECISE CONTROL be as simple or as complex as your heart desires. Your "host system" does NOT have to have *ANY* 'default browser' associations, no txt file associations, no ini associations, no pdf associations, no mkv/avi/mp4 associations. NO ASSOCIATIONS of any kind. But you can mix-and-match to your heart's content. Associate 'browser' protocols (http/https/ftp, for example) to all use Firefox *ONLY IF* PortableApps PLATFORM is running in the systray. But roll those ftp protocols over to something like CuteFTP *ONLY* if LiberKey is running in the systray. Split your media file associations so that audio files divert to VLC Player, mkv files divert to PotPlayer, mp4 files divert to Media Player Classic, and avi files divert to TEncoder Video Converter. "Portable" really can be as simple or as complex as you "need it to be".

IIRC, the "nonsetup" zip versions were created for "special" cases (namely WinXP machines without all SPs and/or partially updated), where the provided ".exe" installers wouldn't run; FTR, the first "*_nonsetup.zip" release asset saw the light of day with the 124-r4 release: https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/releases/tag/v126-r4 As posted by NHTPG, these are NOT "portable" packages; Supermium "portable" packages were once offered as part of a paid for Patreon subscription: https://www.patreon.com/posts/supermium-122-r2-103469536 If you don't mind the registry being written to, a simplistic "portable" approach would be to write a "Sm-Portable.cmd" batch file: place it adjacent to Sm's main executable (chrome.exe) and ALWAYS launch Sm via that (you can alternatively create a Windows shortcut with the same cmdline args) ; be mindful: "portable" apps are NOT meant to be associated with other protocols/files/applications etc. ...

Understood, but @Tripredacus was consulted on this occasion, and agreed that no further action was needed in this case. That will not always be the case of course.

Once again, learning a lot! I don't use R3dFox to watch DRM comment, so I didn't even realize R3dfox had disabled DRM. As you say, shades of Pale Moon. All the niche browsers combined aren't going to force YouTube et al. to abandon it! And I agree that the correct way to deal with the issue is to leave the DRM supporting code in the browser, and just disable it with a pref, which can then be re-enabled by the user if desired. Finally, I do consider VMP evil, and understand that niche browsers like R3dFox will never support VMP. But as long as there are sites that impose DRM but don't require VMP, we should still be allowed to access those sites. All that said, though, I still appreciate having R3dFox on my "ancient" Win 7 PC and will keep using it for the ever-increasing number of Web sites that flummox Serpent.

The way that I do it, it does not matter if there is a portable version or not - *ALL* Chrome/Chromium-based browsers 'can be made' portable Just replace the "bin" folder with the Supermium files that you want to turn into a portable version. You can start with anything that is already portable (360Chrome, PortableApps, WinPenPack, the list is endless).

This thread is about @roytam1's browsers targeting legacy OSes. And that means even browsers under Windows 7 and Windows 8 as they are also legacy in the meanwhile. But I think @Zorba the Geek is looking for a solution under Windows XP.

it uses same cert store as latest firefox's security library (NSS) so it has latest certs.

I can't imagine that pref. doing anything at all if multiprocess move is disabled, so I strongly suspect either it is your imagination, or else you do actually have multiprocess mode enabled. The pref. you cited is not the only way to enable it: You can check whether multiprocess mode is, in fact, enabled by clicking Help / Troubleshooting and scrolling down to "Multiprocess Windows." If the first number is anything but zero, it's enabled. Already done: https://github.com/JustOff/moon-tester-tool (by the author of the Classic Add-Ons Archive himself) and https://github.com/Nebula-Mechanica/serpent-tester-tool. But to be fair, these extensions are themselves several years old, so they probably need to be updated. ... Any volunteers? @AstroSkipper?

hard times for Windows Graphical User Interface... long life windows 8.0 NT 6.2 (+ex7forw8) the true kiiing & the fastest NT6 ever made http://web.archive.org/web/20160410082617/https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/b8/2011/10/07/reducing-runtime-memory-in-windows-8/ credits: Everytime 9x hears about Metro Fluent UWP whatever design... Windows has seen better days... windows computer magic has ended long long time ago I'll never ever understang how in the h3ll windows 9x flies on ridiculous hardware and now with tons of ram, nvme ssds, dedicated gpus... the OS is full of lag... Bill, if you hear me. PLEASE, come back, release longhorn, bring some joy to all WDDM capable hardware which is all hardware since 2006.

I COMPLETELY agree @VistaLover. By the way, you really did a complete job in your above assessment. I'm also grateful to what @K4sum1 gave us. But I also need to look after my needs. While I hate that we have a Google-fied web, I've stopped worrying about the implications of all of the privacy issues we face. It's not that I disagree with the level of concern, but it's that we REALLY can do nothing about it. I need to perform online banking, watch and help produce videos on YouTube, use WebRTC to voice traffic reports, and take part in Zoom meetings, Google Meet and Teams Meetings, and apply for work; all which basically NECESSITATES providing a good chunk of personal information to proceed. I don't agree with the corporate tactics, but I must continue to function. It was indeed K4Sum1's project, as Pale Moon was Moonchild's. What I feel these visionary types (who admittedly deserve a lot of credit for their work), fail to realize is that those that make up their user base are CONSUMERS or CUSTOMERS. Now Moonchild and his "moonie minions" VEHEMENTLY disagree with that. But customers are not just defined as those providing monetary exchange to a company or corporation for a product. They can be those who provide voluntary stake to a company, or mission. So in this way, those who co-develop alongside Moonchild, those who provide add-ons, those who beta test, and YES even those who simply (and regularly) USE Pale Moon, are indeed customers and stakeholders. When someone creates a project, and it attracts users to the resulting product, such as in K4Sum1's r3dFox, expectations begin to be developed. No matter if these expectations are right or wrong for the userbase to behold, they are real, and the developer needs to contend with them. Those are simply the facts. K4Sum1 provided a way for me to use Windows 8 on an extended basis, and you become reliant on that. When K4Sum1 understandably says, "I'm just not feeling it", it doesn't incite a favourable response among the userbase. Fair? Perhaps not, but it's a very real sentiment. @K4sum1, I genuinely hope you are OK.

Well, I for one certainly hope that metro uwp framework and immersive shell *NEVER* gets backported to XP, lol.

FFmpeg update. XP: static shared libfdk-aac VISTAx86: static shared libfdk-aac

No, not really. That is the "this is not an INSTALLER, just EXTRACT and EXECUTE" version. To make it PORTABLE, you have to "wrap it" wit a LOADER so that the .exe doesn't save files outside of its own directory, so that it doesn't make permanent changes to the registry, etc.

Well the forks do. Not the standard product. And there are other applications other than browsers that have challenges. Anyway, all good

It does load *VERY* slowly. I would be okay with even taking a quality loss. Watching that image load in "chunks", wait a second, another "chunk" loads, is a bit of an eyesore. It is not my ISP, my download speed is 500 Mbps. Sure, there are faster plans available, but 500 works for everything else. Just not this Kyle of Lochalsh screenshot. My guess is that it is a server-side upload bottleneck.

Oh yeah! That! (weird how you forget that this is meant to target XP, once you leave it behind. I'm more of the mindset that says, "Can it at least run on Windows 7 or 8", as that's a challenge now)

I have tried Interlink, MailNews and Epyrus. None of them can work with OAuth2 (at least for Outlook). I've since installed Betterbird, back in the spring. All good now

Yes. Install it from the Mozilla Add-ons page! For example the British English Dictionary (the only real English ): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/british-english-dictionary-2/ Here is a screenshot taken from my Mypal 74.1.4 installation:

I haven't used these extensions for years. All modifications are done by me manually inside extensions themselves if they need to be fixed. And that means I am not interested in these two extensions at all. They are of no use to me.

What kind of processor do you have?

Yes, I filed a complaint this morning (it was already "deleted"). Instead it's maybe better to use a PrivateBin instance. https://github.com/PrivateBin/PrivateBin

Apparently, pastebin moderation has approved nicolaasjan's yt-dlp log and yesterday's 403 error is now gone: ... Just something to keep in mind in the event of future pastebin uploads (i.e., they might not be immediately visible, for reasons only known to pastebin themselves ) ...

Returned again through an alternative server

Nice work

I guess things like Cloudflare captchas are more a defence against bots than anything else. A forum operator, for instance, wouldn't want a bot potentially harvesting all their members' e-mail addresses, so it is fundamentally privacy concerns. Something which works in some browsers and blocks the site in others doesn't make sense, though, and we're not talking about ancient browsers here.

Strange... Try this.

I only upgrade if Speedometer 2.1 reveals newer to be faster. My preference has been v136. v137 is within margin of error so I never bothered to upgrade to v137. v138 and v139 took major hits and DECREASED scores, so no interest in either. v140, v141, and v142 are indeed faster based on Speedometer scores (and others, it's just the easiest to get a score). My next (once I do upgrade) will be v141. Then keep it until it "needs" upgraded. I really really REALLY prefer to stick with ONE and not update every (feel like) three days! The web site being discussed here isn't going to be enough to get me to upgrade, but it is probably writing on the wall that my v136 will have to soon be replaced.

I'm 99% sure that he DOES understand. And I agree with roytam. He is here to support his brower variants. He is not here to support extensions. His browsers are NOT 'technically' *modern*. Removing ID checking would open up a whole can of worms where the "userbase" would ASSUME that *modern* extensions are supposed to "work". Roytam's browsers are only 80% modern. Sure, we could debate if that is actually 80% or 90% or 98%. But the reality is that they are NOT 100%! Why in Hades would roytam open his browsers up to an onslaught of support enquiries asking why a thousand extensions do not work because they rely on the 20% (or 10% or 2%) that his browsers simply cannot "do"?

You know what, you're absoluteness right! Despite being on Millennium for a long time, I paid very little attention to the primitive operating systems before Vista, those were designed for office slaves to serve as a calculator. Son, we have different priorities in life, it's very obvious. For me, life is all about fun and entertainment, so I chose the only one really high quality media capable OS - Vista. Windows 7/8 took a huge step back in the quality, and Windows 11 is the icon of primitivism.

Oh, I forgot to answer to the main question, The actual reason Windows 11 had failed is because @D.Draker purchased zero licences, whereas with Vista he bought dozens and dozens, maybe hundreds. Literally every PC I bought had Vista, and if we count the numerous gifts I made during that times, countless girlfriends were gifted with Vista computers, even my mother and father!

It all went downhill with the fisher price XP, I can't forget the terrible quality of everything in XP, it resampled all audio to the miserable 48Khz! Oh, and take the OS sound for example, LOUD bangs of system notifications made for deaf people. XP had acid icons and the UI made for BLIND people. Windows 11 reminds me of the acid XP colours,

A while ago I wrote that Avast announced that they were gonna stop testing updates on XP despite still rolling them out. It's been a while since October 2024, but the first cracks are starting to appear. Some users have reported on the avast forum about some issues and unfortunately I was able to verify and reproduce every one of them. We're talking about Avast 8.8.2356 build 18.8.4084.409 with the definition updates 250204-6. Some users reported high CPU usage up to 50%. In my case, something is off as Avast is consuming 12% of the CPU resources in a 4c/4th configuration. The problem is that csrss.exe, a Windows process, started going crazy and use up between 9% and 12% CPU usage pretty much all the time which leads me to 24% total CPU usage being completely wasted. I'm sure there's something wrong that is probably looping, but I haven't yet figured out what. What's even more interesting is that even when you disable all the shields you have aswArPot.sys and aswSnx.sys being linked in the stack trace of various non avast processes even though they should be nowhere near that. Something is definitely broken. There's also another issue reported by other people at start time in which the program starts but it displays that you're not protected in the GUI until it then refreshes and everything is back to normal. Once again, that's probably one of the components failing to either start or register itself as started properly until some fallback mechanism kicks in and fixes it. The last issue reported on the forum is about the streaming updates, namely a constant connection to the avast servers that allow the antivirus to immediately get the definition updates instead of scheduling a periodic download from the server to minimise the timeframe between when definitions are released and the program is updated. Well, that unfortunately no longer works, but fortunately the scheduled downloads kick in automatically so that's not a problem. I've reported them all to the support via email, so now we're at a crucial point I think. If they do fix the issues, then it means that they're gonna keep their words and actually rely on the users for feedbacks. If they don't... well... it means that they don't care and the program will get progressively worse and more broken until the end of support in 2027...

As far as I know and have read about this extension, it should work in more or most recent Firefox versions. However, since I hate all recent releases of Firefox and am a die-hard Windows XP user, I did not explicitly test the most recent Custom Buttons extension in more recent Firefox releases. I use the newer, crappy browsers as they are and only when I have to. I know. You are the creator of Mypal 68, and you have to decide what will be changed and updated in your browser. I am just a creator of custom buttons, CSS styles and scripts, a code modifier who tries to fix already existing code to make it working again. Nevertheless, I developed a lot even for Mypal 68. Anyway! Do what you have to do but please keep in mind that compatibility is a valuable asset contrary to what Mozilla is doing . To preserve the possibility to run some older stuff in more recent versions of Mypal 68 would be great, though. But if it is not possible to preserve certain, old stuff due to important and necessary changes, then, for better or worse, that's what will happen. Don't worry about my beloved custom buttons! I have already started to port my custom buttons into UC.JS scripts. Unfortunately, I have to change a lot, and the JavaScript syntax is different, but I have steadily expanded my JavaScript and CSS skills. But one thing is crystal clear. The Custom Buttons extension is simply great, incomparable and in all its facets irreplaceable. So, try to keep the compatibility with the Custom Buttons extension as long as possible! BTW, I have already fixed all issues by myself in Mypal 68.14.5b regarding the broken UC.JS scripts and CSS styles. Except the Custom Buttons extension, of course. For the UserCSSLoader, I created a complete, new CSS stylesheet. But it was much more complicated to do as before which means I don't like the new CSS. The old one was much easier and more effective. I don't understand why the more recent has to be the more complicated and restricted in these days. And I replaced the Extension Options Menu script by a more recent one. Unfortunately, I could no longer save my version.uc.js script, and therefore I had to replace it with something similar.

I don't think that 99% users won't bother with "editor path" and consider it as broken. The popup clearly tells the user to set a path to their favoured editor via a preference called view_source.editor.path in about:config for editing CSS files by this script. As it is totally self-explanatory, I have not mentioned this. If a path to your favoured file manager was set in line 46 of this script and a path to your favoured editor via view_source.editor.path, then all menu items will definitely work. And you doesn't seem to have understood what the "Import styles" entry is intended for. When clicking this entry, then all CSS styles will be loaded again on the fly. In the case that all styles have already been loaded, then clicking onto it will logically do nothing. But you can check very easily whether this feature is working or not. Copy a new style in the form of a CSS file into the CSS folder while the browser is running. It is not yet loaded. Now click on "Import styles", and the stylesheet is loaded immediately, i.e. without restarting the browser.

Great! Mypal 68.14.6a again with browser.xul. But who or what is xioxui? Maybe, you meant xiaoxiaoflood? Anyway! Development must go on but keeping compatibility as far as possible would be really great. That's why I don't like Mozilla's way of development. New releases, and compatibility breaks without end.

I'm glad to hear it. 1. What search are you talking about? 2. Sorry but that is not true. The UserCSSLoader script is fully working in Mypal 68.14.4b. Here is a short demo: The "Import styles"is only necessary if new styles are added or some styles have been edited. When starting the browser, all styles are automatically loaded by this script. And what do you want to open? The CSS folder? A stylesheet in an editor? The userchrome.css file? Please describe it a bit more detailed! I can't do anything with statements like that. In any case, if all is configured as I described in my instructions very detailed inside the uploaded archive, then all features of the UserCSSLoader script are definitely working. The reported issue was its CSS stylesheet which does not work in Mypal 68.14.5b only. 3. Sorry but that is not true, either. The Custom Buttons extension works fine in Mypal 68.14.4b. At the moment, I have installed 11 custom buttons in this browser. Here is a short demo: For installing a custom button, you click the "Open file" dialogue from the browser main menu, go to the Restart & Purge v2.0 10-12-24 003806.htm file I uploaded for you and click onto it. Everything else goes without saying. If you want to see my most recent Process Mode Toggler custom button in action in Mypal 68.14.4b, then have a look at here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183495-mypal-68/?do=findComment&comment=1275154

To get back on topic, I am a true, daily Windows XP user. I have very special UC.JS scripts (created by a great German Firefox community) running in Mypal 68, some of which I had to customise for the now obsolete Mypal 68 browser. I have also developed nice and more complex custom buttons especially for Mypal 68. I will produce a clip to give you an impression of my configuration and work. I have already posted a clip with my new Process Mode Toggler custom button. I don't know if you've looked at it yet. https://msfn.org/board/topic/183657-mypal-68-in-windows-xp-custom-buttons-and-extensions/?do=findComment&comment=1275047

Sorry. It seems you really don't get it. The Custom Buttons extension works in the official Firefox releases in general, even in the latest versions. And so do my and other custom buttons created with this extension. If the latest version of Mypal 68 no longer supports this extension, then that is actually an issue that does not even occur in the official Mozilla versions. And you won't understand the problem if you are not a user of Mypal 68 and this extension. You are a Chrome/Chromium user and has abandoned Windows XP. Your self-created, proprietary buttons have nothing to do with this topic and are totally irrelevant. It's not about stopping software development, but rather about steering it in the right direction so as not to act even worse than Mozilla does. And for someone who hates raccoons 🦝, has never really been involved with Mypal 68 and is no longer a user of Windows XP, I don't understand what you're actually trying to accomplish here.

The Custom Buttons extension worked fine in Mypal 68 from the very first release until the previous version 68.14.4b. @feodor2 also has this extension available and can certainly test what's going on. In any case, he has made significant changes. The menu bar is also affected and no longer behaves as it did before. This may also be one of the reasons why some of my CSS stylesheets no longer work. Same applies to the Add-ons Manager. P.S.: @feodor2 And FYI, I also tried xiaoxiaoflood's method you recently pointed to and installed the boostrapped version of Custom Buttons (this extension always comes in two different versions). In this case, the extension options appears again in the Add-ons Manager (no error in the Browser Console in terms of the boostrap.js file) but when installing custom buttons, none of them are available. Although they are listed under the entry Custom Buttons in the Add-ons Manager, they are simply not accessible and their tool bar icons missing in the Customize window. Same to the Custom Buttons menu in the main toolbar. As you may know, Custom Buttons is an extension that also runs in newer Firefox versions up to the very latest. BTW, all was tested by me in a clean, fresh profile. If you need all the no longer working stuff, please let me know. I will then upload it for you. P.S.2: Furthermore, new errors can be found in the Browser Console compared with your previous release, even when opening the about:preferences page. Since you haven't been around here since 27. October, and the bugs are plentiful and serious, I even jumped over my shadow and reported it to your issues on GitHub to make sure you were aware of the problems with your new release.

Hi @feodor2! Thanks for your new release and all your efforts to improve Mypal 68! Unfortunately, I have to report that my beloved Custom Buttons extension is no longer working due to the changes you made in Mypal 68.14.5b. Furthermore, some UC.JS scripts have stopped working. Same applies to some CSS stylesheets. All of them have been working fine in Mypal 68.14.4b but in your new release, they do not work anymore. Although the Custom Buttons extension can be installed, the extension options is missing and when installing some custom buttons, they do not appear. Neither they are listed under the entry Custom Buttons in the Add-ons Manager nor their tool bar icons are shown in the Customize window. The CB menu in the toolbar to create buttons is also missing. The Browser Console shows errors when reading the boostrap.js file of this extension. Try it yourself as you already have the Custom Buttons extension! At the moment, I will stay with Mypal 68.14.4b. Too much is not working in Mypal 68.14.5b.

Unable to replicate. ebayimg.map doesn't show up in any of my logs even when visiting https://www.ebay.de/itm/186679189985 incognito. Perhaps, eBay is once again using German eBay customers as guinea pigs for layout experiments. Comparable to laboratory rats. The eBay websites have become worse and worse in recent years. It used to be much, much better.

Thanks for your suggestion! I'll try it out later on my Windows XP computer. Since Stylus no longer works in Mypal 68, and Stylish is no longer installed in New Moon 28, I will try to inject the code into the eBay pages via the userContent.css file. No success. This does not do anything. The issue doesn't seem to be related to animations and transitions. Only when blocking ebayimg.map.fastly.net in uBO, the CPU utilisation becomes normal again. But then the page looks unusable like that:

Had to make a quick trip to the pharmacy. Just copied and pasted and bye-bye.

Just for clarification. I know how to prevent URL tracking parameters. But the two profiles I am currently using are actually for testing and developing in New Moon 28 and Mypal 68. Apart from uBO, there is no other protection. And even this content blocker is only configured slightly, as it is not of interest. I test JavaScript and CSS files in these profiles. Mainly things I have created myself. I had searched for something on eBay there weeks ago, and now these pages no longer work as before. No more, no less. Nevertheless, thanks for replying!

Thanks for your suggestion! I'll try it out later on my Windows XP computer. Since Stylus no longer works in Mypal 68, and Stylish is no longer installed in New Moon 28, I will try to inject the code into the eBay pages via the userContent.css file.

The performance was bearable some weeks ago. I assume it is more CSS related. It seems to be a problem with images. If images are disabled by uBO on eBay, the CPU utilisation becomes normal again. BTW, there is a new, images related url in the uBO popup on eBay. Something with "fast". Apart from that, a faster CPU doesn't make the pictures any smaller on eBay in New Moon 28 or Mypal 68. Anyway! This is probably another modern, bells and whistles improvement from eBay for the bin. P.S.: The new, images related URL in the uBO popup on eBay is ebayimg.map.fastly.net.

All these updates I had installed when they were offered via MU. I have the most recent root certificates updated by CAupdater and all updates incl. POSReady updates. But Microsoft Update doesn't work in IE. When Active scripting is enabled Microsoft Update is looping between http://fe2.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=de and http://fe2.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx. Without Active scripting no loop back but then you'll get Error number: 0x8DDD0001 like this: https://imgur.com/6jHMuyq

What certificate do you mean? cacert.pem in program folder of HTTPSProxy (using HTTPSProxy instead of ProxHTTPSProxy) or site certificates like fe2.update.microsoft.com.crt in cert folder of HTTPSProxy or what? Very confusing these comments in this topic.

Sorry, I thought you are the creator of these new xpmod-sse binaries on https://rwijnsma.home.xs4all.nl/files/ffmpeg/?C=M;O=D. Do you know who the author of these binaries is? By the way there are a lot of free German VPN or German proxy servers but anyway I need new binaries only for Windows XP. So your link https://ffmpeg.org/download.html#build-windows does not help and I think there is something going wrong by building these specific new xpmod-sse binaries so the original coder of FFmpeg can't help. Help of the creator of these specific new xpmod-sse binaries is needed! Thanks so far